Official Packers vs. Eagles Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Football is here! Well, sort of...

Green Bay currently under severe thunderstorm watch. Looks like storms may be done by game time though.

Players I'll be watching: Evans, all the RB's, any WR not named Nelson, Adams or Cobb, Lowry, Price, Fackrell, Elliott, Gilbert, all the CB's, Josh Jones, the field goal unit.

[ThunderDan]

Not going to be able to watch the game tonight. Watching Cardinals/Royals in St Louis. I'll check this thread from time to time.

Let's have a great start to a Super Bowl season.

[Smidgeon]

Football is here! Well, sort of...

Green Bay currently under severe thunderstorm watch. Looks like storms may be done by game time though.

Players I'll be watching: Evans, all the RB's, any WR not named Nelson, Adams or Cobb, Lowry, Price, Fackrell, Elliott, Gilbert, all the CB's, Josh Jones, the field goal unit.

I'd be watching Cobb too. Since 2015, he's been...underwhelming. Let's hope the injuries are behind him and he's still fluid enough. Otherwise the starters are Nelson and Adams with the young'uns to develop.

[pbmax]

Everything on the line tonight. Make or break season based on what I see.

[pbmax]

Rodgers and Nelson are healthy scratches. RichRod has a finger injury from a day or two ago. No House so we will see all youngsters.

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
#Packers' scratches:
1 Pearson
12 Rodgers
31 House
39 Goodson
45 Biegel
82 Rodgers
85 Sandland
87 Nelson
90 Adams
6:43 PM · Aug 10, 2017

[Joemailman]

Where the hell is Captain Kickass?

[pbmax]

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde
Injury info:
Pearson (ankle)
House (hamstring)
Goodson (knee)
Biegel (foot)
R.Rodgers (finger)
Sandland (knee)
Adams (foot)

[pbmax]

Where the hell is Captain Kickass?

He reports to camp late every year.

[pbmax]

Important:

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
David Bakhtiari, Joe Thomas and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix are captains tonight for the #Packers.

[pbmax]

Why return a six yard deep kick to the 20 when you kneel and get it on the 25?

Janis on KO return. 2 TE set to start game.

[pbmax]

False start on bad snap count ruins 4th and 2

[pbmax]

Randall and Rollins outside at CB

[pbmax]

Morgan Burnett whiffed on Jordan Matthews tackle gives up first down.

[pbmax]

Clark is DT IN NICKEL pass rush. Randall hurt neck maybe?

Gunter in for him. Haven't picked up nickel DB.

[Rutnstrut]

Shocker that Randall is hurt. He must be the all time top at the TT pussymeter.

[gbgary]

I like the agressiveness of the d so far.

[Rutnstrut]

That's some fine tackling.

[gbgary]

can't wrap up the tackles.

[Rutnstrut]

I like the agressiveness of the d so far.

If only they knew how to tackle.

[Joemailman]

Shocker that Randall is hurt. He must be the all time top at the TT pussymeter.Matthews is still

healthy!

[pbmax]

I like the agressiveness of the d so far.

I don't on passing downs. They are not getting home fast enough and Wentz is finding single coverage by LB.

And now Matthews lost Wentz on sack and King sat down in coverage when he should have followed his guy. Might have been zone but don't think so.

Only plus so far is Clark. And HaHa.

[Rutnstrut]

Matthews is still

healthy!

Wait until after the game to say that. I'm sure we will hear that he has a strained vag.

[smuggler]

Morgan Burnett looking like shit tonight.

[gbgary]

could have had two more sacks had they wrapped up the qb.

[pbmax]

Janis had his left side wide open and stuck to the middle.

[Joemailman]

Sloppy offense so far.

[pbmax]

Fumble. Well they won't be overconfident in practice this week.

[Rutnstrut]

I am far from a Montgomery fan. But that fumble was just a great defensive play.

[Joemailman]

Bad start for Rollins so far.

[pbmax]

Brandon Graham has beaten Bulaga twice.

[pbmax]

I am far from a Montgomery fan. But that fumble was just a great defensive play.

It was second guy after contact. Need to put ball away.

[Bretsky]

Shocker that Randall is hurt. He must be the all time top at the TT pussymeter.

TTT has built up quite the resume for the pussymeter draft pix; not even sure if Randall is first team worthy yet :)

Justine Harrell and Sherry Sherrod anybody ?

[Rutnstrut]

Brandon Graham has beaten Bulaga twice.

He's getting old anyway. Time to cut his ass.

[Joemailman]

Packers showing the effects of no real tackling in practice?

[gbgary]

if our first man to make contact could tackle the d would look great.

[pbmax]

TTT has built up quite the resume for the pussymeter draft pix; not even sure if Randall is first team worthy yet :)

Justine Harrell and Sherry Sherrod anybody ?

Which is less masculine: fractured tibia or torn tricep/herniated disk?

[gbgary]

run blocking hasn't been good.

[Joemailman]

Rich Gannon points out that Adams goes after the ball when it's in the air. Best time to go for it.

[pbmax]

run blocking hasn't been good.

Nope. Problem isn't solved in 2TE either.

[pbmax]

Better drive all via air. Hundley looks OK. One pass to Adams was under thrown.

[pbmax]

Randall with possible concussion.

[pbmax]

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Second-string O-line: Spriggs, Patrick, Barclay, McCray, Murphy #Packers
7:41 PM · Aug 10, 2017

Janis with drop. Not ideal pass but was good enough.

[Joemailman]

At least 2 drops so far. Hundley not getting much help from his teammates.

[mraynrand]

Rich Gannon points out that Adams goes after the ball when it's in the air. Best time to go for it.

when else would you go for it? When it's on the ground?

[pbmax]

Packer Report @PackerReport
·
2m
Packers swap out their lines to start the second quarter. Plus, Williams at RB, Davis, Janis and Allison at WR

Backups had one good run and two incomplete passes

[RashanGary]

Randall with possible concussion.

Damn. Concussions sometimes last forever now a days.

[mraynrand]

Randall with possible concussion.

pussy

[Rutnstrut]

Packers showing the effects of no real tackling in practice?

IMO that's one big thing that hurts this D every year.

[pbmax]

Could be so much worse.

Brad Biggs @BradBiggs
Mike Glennon coming out for his 4th series with #Bears looking for first first down
7:35 PM · Aug 10, 2017

[pbmax]

So many Packers first to ball miss the tackle. Just grab the son of a bitch.

[Joemailman]

TD!!!

[pbmax]

But we will all enjoy Davis on punt returns. :D

[gbgary]

nice.

[Rutnstrut]

But we will all enjoy Davis on punt returns. :D

Yup, i'll take that.

[Joemailman]

Bubble Watch: Trevor Davis > Janis.

[RashanGary]

Trevor Davis just became a lock. Janis is on the block.

[RashanGary]

Bubble Watch: Trevor Davis > Janis.

Yep. Yancey and Dupre should be ahead of Janis based on potential

[RashanGary]

Nelson
Adams
Cobb
Davis
Yancey
Dupree
(Allison)

[gbgary]

But we will all enjoy Davis on punt returns. :D

yup...if he can hold on to the ball.

[pbmax]

Another first responder misses the tackle completely. Third guy causes a fumble.

[pbmax]

Anyone else think Williams looks like Brandon Jackson at RB?

[Rutnstrut]

That's gotta hurt you anti-Janis guys.

[pbmax]

Janis answers with a sweet corner route TD!

[gbgary]

wth...JANIS!

[pbmax]

Damn that looked like an NFL route. Good for Jeff.

[Rutnstrut]

Damn that looked like an NFL route. Good for Jeff.

I think if he got as many opportunities and 2cnd chances as the fraud, he would really surprise people.

[Joemailman]

I pop open a Leinie's and Janis scores a TD.

[pbmax]

I pop open a Leinie's and Janis scores a TD.

You should stock up for the season.

Please tell me it wasn't Summer Shandy though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Nelson
Adams
Cobb
Davis
Yancey
Dupree
(Allison)

Nelson
Adams
Cobb
(Allison)
Davis
Janis
PS - Take your pick among the young guys (Dupre, Yancey, Clart, McCaffrey), a couple will be on the PS

[Joemailman]

That's gotta hurt you anti-Janis guys.

I'll try to be more positive. I know how much negative comments bother you.

[Joemailman]

You should stock up for the season.

Please tell me it wasn't Summer Shandy though.

Original.

[Rutnstrut]

You should stock up for the season.

Please tell me it wasn't Summer Shandy though.

Ugh, the summer shandy hipsters were out thick at the 150 year celebration today.

[pbmax]

I think if he got as many opportunities and 2cnd chances as the fraud, he would really surprise people.

Which fraud, Fregie or Adams?

Because Fergie was the middle of a WR drought. Adams as a pro at routes in Year 1 bum ankle in Y2.

[MadScientist]

At first I thought there was pressure that caused the QB to throw the pick, but it was just a bad decision / bad pass.

[pbmax]

96 beat my favorite Hoosier SPRIGGS with a second move and got a sack.

[MadScientist]

Hundley doesn't quite have AR's 6th sense in avoiding sacks.

[Rutnstrut]

Which fraud, Fregie or Adams?

Because Fergie was the middle of a WR drought. Adams as a pro at routes in Year 1 bum ankle in Y2.

Adams. But my main point being that if Janis was to get more playing time, imo he would improve greatly.

[gbgary]

Brice went to the locker room.

[pbmax]

At first I thought there was pressure that caused the QB to throw the pick, but it was just a bad decision / bad pass.

That's the Carson Wentz experience.

[Rutnstrut]

Brice went to the locker room.

They have to start the excuses for shitty defense early.

[hoosier]

Shocker that Randall is hurt. He must be the all time top at the TT pussymeter.

You must be a real joy to watch the game with.

[pbmax]

Ugh, the summer shandy hipsters were out thick at the 150 year celebration today.

It's SO awful tasting I don't get it. It's an Arnold Palmer made with fruit retrieved from grocery store trash bins.

[Rutnstrut]

You must be a real joy to watch the game with.

Well our Packer parties are always way more people than I want here, so...

[pbmax]

It's weird that I like the enzone writing outlines that emphasize its pre-season isn't it?

[Rutnstrut]

It's SO awful tasting I don't get it. It's an Arnold Palmer made with fruit retrieved from grocery store trash bins.

That's one of the best descriptions of it that I have ever heard.

[pbmax]

I think King can tackle and play zone.

[mraynrand]

You must be a real joy to watch the game with.

He's an angry Elf.

http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/002/502/2502/original.jpg

[mraynrand]

It's SO awful tasting I don't get it. It's an Arnold Palmer made with fruit retrieved from grocery store trash bins.

yeah, I like the grapefruit shandy because I like grapefruit, but the others are bleah. The ginger is gawd-awful.

[Rutnstrut]

Maybe we won't have to see Barclay anymore.

[pbmax]

Ricky Jean with Dunkin Donuts TFL after shedding guard with a sidestep.

Barclay hurt left leg.

[Bossman641]

I cant comment on the game at all, but at least rutnstrut is in mid season form. Time to shut it down for the regular season.

[pbmax]

Patrick at Center. Amichia at guard.

[mraynrand]

Maybe we won't have to see Barclay anymore.

He hopes one day to elevate his game to the Marshmallow Outhouse level.

[Rutnstrut]

Might not have been so bright of TT to let lineman go left and right.

[pbmax]

That drive with two attempts at screens was ungood.

[Iron Mike]

That drive with two attempts at screens was ungood.

Doubleplus ungood.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11/111746/4354534-winston+smith.jpg

[mraynrand]

Might not have been so bright of TT to let lineman go left and right.

Tretter looked good at Center for the Browns.

Cody Kessler looks like Brees behind center, except he lacks vision, mobility and accuracy.

[Joemailman]

Ringo with a little help from his friends.

[pbmax]

King beat deep but boy can he go forward.

[pbmax]

Here is how you know NFL is on wrong track. MLB replay makes more sense and is faster.

[Rutnstrut]

King beat deep but boy can he go forward.

The best thing is he doesn't seem to be made of glass.

[pbmax]

Wrist isn't down but forearm might have been.

[pbmax]

Not a good look by Hundley.

[pbmax]

Pipkins with PD.

[pbmax]

Barclay with ankle injury.

[smuggler]

Ricky Jean with Dunkin Donuts TFL after shedding guard with a sidestep.

Barclay hurt left leg.

This can't be right. He hopped off the field without putting weight on his right leg.

[RashanGary]

I thought Clark looked strong and active in the first quarter.
Brice seemed to play fast.
Hundley looks solid but only has average NFL arm.
I like Williams north/south running style
Trevor Davis with real nice return
Bad first punt for punter
King played better off than in man

[Joemailman]

Brewers losing 6-2.

[pbmax]

This can't be right. He hopped off the field without putting weight on his right leg.

You are correct.

[pbmax]

Pipkins with another nice stop on a screen. He and King go forward and tackle well. Now he is hurt apparently.

Michael Cohen‏ @Michael_Cohen13 47s47 seconds ago
Looks like maybe just a cramp for Pipkins. He walked off the field.

[pbmax]

Davis on PR looks legit. Sorry Randall.

[MadScientist]

Pipkins needs to work on a celebration that doesn't cause cramps.

[Iron Mike]

Well, Hawkins is total s#!t at this point.....

[pbmax]

Well, Hawkins is total s#!t at this point.....

He had some good plays earlier in the game.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein‏Verified account @TomSilverstein 3m3 minutes ago
Damarious Randall does have a concussion and will be in the NFL protocol this week.

Wes Hodkiewicz‏Verified account @WesHod 12m12 minutes ago
Reggie Gilbert hasn't gotten home yet, but he's putting plenty of pressure on McGloin #PHIvsGB

GILBERT HAS HAD SOME GOOD POCKET CLOSING, BUT I WOULD FEEL BETTER IF HE GOT HOME. ITS BACKUPS OUT THERE.

[gbgary]

why won't they let Callahan throw up field? Philly is sitting on all this short stuff. a double move would kill them.

[pbmax]

Dupre was in the concussion protocol before he hit the ground.

[Iron Mike]

Dupre was in the concussion protocol before he hit the ground.

I think he'll come to on planet Niburu....

[Iron Mike]

Hawkins gives up another completion....

[pbmax]

That was PI against Yancey. Defender had his arm pinned down.

[pbmax]

https://vimeo.com/229223721

[pbmax]

Dupre had feeling in all limbs.

Also

Wes Hodkiewicz‏ @WesHod 2m2 minutes ago
Dupre has feeling and movement in all of his extremities. He has been taken to a hospital for further evaluation #PHIvsGB

[pbmax]

Pringle hurt on punt coverage.

[RashanGary]

Said it last year and I still believe it to be true this year..... Joe Callahan is a better QB than Brett Hundley. And I'd go as far as to say he's the best Backup QB to Rodgers we've had. He's better than Flynn. Stronger arm. Has moxie. You can just see he's always in control. Makes all the throws. Better head than Hundley. Better player.

[RashanGary]

My highlights of the game

Clark looked powerful and quick. Gonna be a load alongside Daniels.
Davis is an exlosive returner
Brice plays faster than any safety we've had since Nick Collins
Callahan is a stud. He's a gamer. Has a big arm. Throws just as well on the move. Always confident and attacking. A baller.

As long as Brice, Clinton dix and Burnett are healthy we're gonna see a lot of Nitro.

[RashanGary]

Disappointments....
Randall and Barclay injuries.
Didn't get to see Montgomery run much
King looks up and down. Attacks one play but gets beat next. he's young so whatever. Let's give it a year or two
Safety Jones looked blah. Nothing special in game 1. But a rookie so we'll wait
Spriggs got torched

[Joemailman]

https://vimeo.com/229223721

How was that not a penalty? Preseason for the refs too I guess.

[hoosier]

He's an angry Elf.

http://cdn.hark.com/images/000/002/502/2502/original.jpg

I don't believe that in the photo is an elf.

[mraynrand]

I don't believe that in the photo is an elf.

You Feelin' strong? Call me Elf ONCE MORE!

[Upnorth]

How did the oline do? That is what I want to know?

[RashanGary]

How did the oline do? That is what I want to know?

Only thing I noticed was spriggs get toasted a couple times real bad by the rookie Barnett. Other than that seemed to hold up well.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/Thursdays-Top-Play-Davis-goes-the-distance/1309b6ff-5754-43a8-9b5a-df952ad5eb6f

Thursday's Top Play: (Trevor) Davis goes the distance

" Hear from Trevor Davis and Mike McCarthy as they discuss the 68-yard punt return TD against the Eagles."

Comment woodbuck27: There are more videos here from this big first Preseason game win over the Eagles.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, I finally got to see the Eagles game.

Even though we won fairly easily against a not horrible team, I kinda have a vague feeling of disappointment. Sure, we dominated their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th strings with ours, our first string both O and D didn't look so hot. The O Line showed little ability to run block, and most of the passes were after our QB was forced out of the pocket. None of our RBs were impressive, but then they never had any openings. I don't think the Eagles D was stacked to stop the run either - why would they do that against the Packers.

Pretty much all of our WRs were impressive. I'm thinking now more than ever that Cobb's days could be numbered with the Packers. Allison also didn't look like much, and he has the suspension which may or may not mean an underlying character issue. You always have to consider who played against scrubs and who went against better players, but Yancy, Janis, Clark, maybe McCaffrey and Dupre all looked better than guys above them on the depth chart.

I was not overly impressed at first look with Kevin King. Rollins, for all the good words in practice, didn't look like much. Same with Hawkins. The Safetys on the other hand, looked excellent - Bryce and Evans in particular. It seemed like the Packers were emphasizing ILB blitzes and not much from the OLBs. It was frustrating, however, that so many times that the pass rush came close but didn't quite get there. I can't help thinking that Capers just ain't showing his best stuff ...... and we still held 'em to 9 points. Our D Line looked better than our D Line has looked for a few years anyway - first string on down, a lot of quality play.

Vogel looked great as a punter, but the kicking game, even though there were no misses, didn't very good - kicks that were good but kinda ugly.

[QBME]

Said it last year and I still believe it to be true this year..... Joe Callahan is a better QB than Brett Hundley. And I'd go as far as to say he's the best Backup QB to Rodgers we've had. He's better than Flynn. Stronger arm. Has moxie. You can just see he's always in control. Makes all the throws. Better head than Hundley. Better player.

Just finished watching the game on NFLN replay. I believe you are spot on. I'd go far as to say he was pulled because of his play.

TT was on the sideline realizing any more of this and we're going to have to carry 3 QB's on the roster, no hiding him on the PS.

[Teamcheez1]

Rodgers is the starter.
Hundley is the back-up.
Callahan and Hill are competing for 3rd string/practice squad.

I doubt this will change unless we see another injury to Hundley.

[pbmax]

How did the oline do? That is what I want to know?

No run game. Pass blocking was good. 3rd string tackles were getting abused by upfield rushes.

Spriggs got beat at least once with inside counter move at LT.

[pbmax]

Hundley was playing against the 1s without Nelson. Callahan had the 2nd and third string in the second half.

[pbmax]

Dupre is back at work, no worse for wear apparently.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/packers-team-submits-evidence-of-two-illegal-hits-by-eagles/article_4180c4fd-bcc4-5e2e-bed9-06d79083a339.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wistatejournal

EDIT: OK, I read further and he returned for meetings but might be in the protocol.


McCarthy said they submitted two hits by the Eagles to the League. Dupre hit and a crackback on D Randall.

Did anyone else notice the replays were almost non-existent during the broadcast? They showed some plays multiple times, but other interesting plays never got a replay. Much different from network game where almost everything gets a replay even if its after the break.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.12up.com/posts/5388567-mike-mccarthy-asks-nfl-to-investigate-devastating-hits-from-first-preseason-game?a_aid=36476

Mike McCarthy Asks NFL to Investigate Devastating Hits From First Preseason Game

By: Nick Brown ....12 AUG 2017

" The Green Bay Packers may have won their first preseason game of the year, ta​king down the Philadelphia Eagles in front of a raucous Lambeau Field crowd, but there was way more negativity than positivity surrounding the win.

​Young WR Malachi Dupre, as well as starting CB Damarious Randall went down with concussions after suffering some devastating hits, and now Mike McCarthy is asking the NFL to investigate the collisions for foul play. "

[Harlan Huckleby]

I checked the TV schedule last night, trying to find when the Packer preseason game was this weekend. I'm not quite locked and loaded yet for Packer season.

[pbmax]

I checked the TV schedule last night, trying to find when the Packer preseason game was this weekend. I'm not quite locked and loaded yet for Packer season.

You should have signed up for the newsletter.

[mraynrand]

Hundley was playing against the 1s without Nelson. Callahan had the 2nd and third string in the second half.

Philly dumped their first string after a series. Callahan auto parts was playing against Philly's fourth and fifth strings. I'm not really sure this is true - just my string theory.

[mraynrand]

I checked the TV schedule last night, trying to find when the Packer preseason game was this weekend. I'm not quite locked and loaded yet for Packer season.

take it to FYI, you sneaky bastard

[Harlan Huckleby]

take it to FYI, you sneaky bastard

Ahh, there are infractions on many sides. So many sides. Easy.

[mraynrand]

Ahh, there are infarctions on many sides. So many sides. Easy.

FIFY

[KYPack]

Well, I finally got to see the Eagles game.

Even though we won fairly easily against a not horrible team, I kinda have a vague feeling of disappointment. Sure, we dominated their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th strings with ours, our first string both O and D didn't look so hot. The O Line showed little ability to run block, and most of the passes were after our QB was forced out of the pocket. None of our RBs were impressive, but then they never had any openings. I don't think the Eagles D was stacked to stop the run either - why would they do that against the Packers.

Pretty much all of our WRs were impressive. I'm thinking now more than ever that Cobb's days could be numbered with the Packers. Allison also didn't look like much, and he has the suspension which may or may not mean an underlying character issue. You always have to consider who played against scrubs and who went against better players, but Yancy, Janis, Clark, maybe McCaffrey and Dupre all looked better than guys above them on the depth chart.

I was not overly impressed at first look with Kevin King. Rollins, for all the good words in practice, didn't look like much. Same with Hawkins. The Safetys on the other hand, looked excellent - Bryce and Evans in particular. It seemed like the Packers were emphasizing ILB blitzes and not much from the OLBs. It was frustrating, however, that so many times that the pass rush came close but didn't quite get there. I can't help thinking that Capers just ain't showing his best stuff ...... and we still held 'em to 9 points. Our D Line looked better than our D Line has looked for a few years anyway - first string on down, a lot of quality play.

Vogel looked great as a punter, but the kicking game, even though there were no misses, didn't very good - kicks that were good but kinda ugly.

That's about what I saw, Tex.

It's a thin crew at RB for sure. An 'ol WR and a bunch of kids is about it. I might scan some rosters. Mebbe a team has a squeeze at RB.

House needs to heal up, we are also thin at CB. We might look at converting one of these young safeties. King is as green as goose shit.

Davante Adams is now a finished product. He ran a shake move in the first quarter that was a masterpiece. Janis actually ran a double move and got a TD. It was a clumsy, half-timed double move, but it beats those crazy flys he runs all the time. Keep improving JJ, you've still got a long way to go.

[pbmax]

That's about what I saw, Tex.

It's a thin crew at RB for sure. An 'ol WR and a bunch of kids is about it. I might scan some rosters. Mebbe a team has a squeeze at RB.

House needs to heal up, we are also thin at CB. We might look at converting one of these young safeties. King is as green as goose shit.

Davante Adams is now a finished product. He ran a shake move in the first quarter that was a masterpiece. Janis actually ran a double move and got a TD. It was a clumsy, half-timed double move, but it beats those crazy flys he runs all the time. Keep improving JJ, you've still got a long way to go.

Two routes is a 100% increase in his previous arsenal. With growth like that, he'll be All-Pro in Year 8. When he will have mastered four routes.

[texaspackerbacker]

That's about what I saw, Tex.

It's a thin crew at RB for sure. An 'ol WR and a bunch of kids is about it. I might scan some rosters. Mebbe a team has a squeeze at RB.

House needs to heal up, we are also thin at CB. We might look at converting one of these young safeties. King is as green as goose shit.

Davante Adams is now a finished product. He ran a shake move in the first quarter that was a masterpiece. Janis actually ran a double move and got a TD. It was a clumsy, half-timed double move, but it beats those crazy flys he runs all the time. Keep improving JJ, you've still got a long way to go.

I'm fairly satisfied with our RBs. Montgomery was outstanding last year, and any shittiness by the rookies in this game I would attribute to the O Line - which I still think is sadly overrated. You virtually never see a pass play where our QB doesn't have to run to avoid the rush, and there's generally damn little quality run blocking either.

I like the idea of trying out a your Safety at Corner, but I have doubts it will be a miracle solution. I'd even try a WR or 2 or 3 at Corner - it couldn't hurt.

As for Janis and his moves, I can't help thinking the extremely limited variety of moves he uses is simply because he's running the plays as called, and they aren't asking him to do any more than that. They DAMN well better not cut him and have him resurface as a star WR for some other team.

[Joemailman]

As for Janis and his moves, I can't help thinking the extremely limited variety of moves he uses is simply because he's running the plays as called, and they aren't asking him to do any more than that. They DAMN well better not cut him and have him resurface as a star WR for some other team.

Tex, you are delusional. Do you really think that the staff that developed Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams into stars wouldn't do the same with Janis if he were capable of it?

[mraynrand]

They DAMN well better not cut him and have him resurface as a star WR for some other team.

yeah! like all the other all-pros the packers have released.

[ThunderDan]

Tex, you are delusional. Do you really think that the staff that developed Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams into stars wouldn't do the same with Janis if he were capable of it?

You forgot our best 7th round WR ever, Donald Driver!

[Joemailman]

You forgot our best 7th round WR ever, Donald Driver!

I didn't actually forget. Driver was a star before this coaching staff was hired. No problem adding him to the list though. :) In a way, Driver was the anti-Janis. Not very big. Not real fast. Just a guy who ran great routes, had great hands, and was tougher than a 2 dollar steak.

[woodbuck27]

I didn't actually forget. Driver was a star before this coaching staff was hired. No problem adding him to the list though. :) In a way, Driver was the anti-Janis. Not very big. Not real fast. Just a guy who ran great routes, had great hands, and was tougher than a 2 dollar steak.

You forgot that Donald can really dance.

[KYPack]

I'm fairly satisfied with our RBs. Montgomery was outstanding last year, and any shittiness by the rookies in this game I would attribute to the O Line - which I still think is sadly overrated. You virtually never see a pass play where our QB doesn't have to run to avoid the rush, and there's generally damn little quality run blocking either.

the idea of trying out a your Safety at Corner, but I have doubts it will be a miracle solution. I'd even try a WR or 2 or 3 at Corner - it couldn't hurt.

As for Janis and his moves, I can't help thinking the extremely limited variety of moves he uses is simply because he's running the plays as called, and they aren't asking him to do any more than that. They DAMN well better not cut him and have him resurface as a star WR for some other team.

Must be that hot Texas air. Yer comfy with our backs? That's bad bc we don't have any.

Janis has few routes bc he is a super slow learner. He is picking things up, as evidenced by the nice (but raggedy) sluggo he ran on that Philly dback for a six. He's picking things up. he ain't gonna get cut. He's our fourth (mebbe fifth) WR + Zook would kill anyone who wanted him cut off ST.

[Freak Out]

I didn't actually forget. Driver was a star before this coaching staff was hired. No problem adding him to the list though. :) In a way, Driver was the anti-Janis. Not very big. Not real fast. Just a guy who ran great routes, had great hands, and was tougher than a 2 dollar steak.

lol

[mraynrand]

I didn't actually forget. Driver was a star before this coaching staff was hired. No problem adding him to the list though. :) In a way, Driver was the anti-Janis. Not very big. Not real fast. Just a guy who ran great routes, had great hands, and was tougher than a 2 dollar steak.

Maybe he wasn't sprinter fast, but he could jump four feet into the air. The Driver Steak needed some seasoning to be sure. He didn't really emerge until his fourth year in 2002.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Maybe he wasn't sprinter fast, but he could jump four feet into the air. The Driver Steak needed some seasoning to be sure. He didn't really emerge until his fourth year in 2002.

Driver was actually pretty fast coming into the league (on top of being a world class high jumper). Driver's reported 40 time was slightly slower than Jeff's 40 time (4.45 to 4.42).

[mraynrand]

Driver was actually pretty fast coming into the league (on top of being a world class high jumper). Driver's reported 40 time was slightly slower than Jeff's 40 time (4.45 to 4.42).

right. Driver was plenty fast. It may just be the fog of time, but I recall Driver sticking his nose in there and running the tough routes, the crossing routes, the inside curls and digs, finding gaps in the zone in the middle - routes where you get blown up a lot - not the easy sideline go routes.

[pbmax]

I am going to wait until he learns his third route before comparing him to Driver.

[Zool]

Tex, you are delusional. Do you really think that the staff that developed Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Randall Cobb and Davante Adams into stars wouldn't do the same with Janis if he were capable of it?

He 100% does think that.