Packers waiting for Fackrell to Produce

[Bretsky]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2017/08/18/packers-waiting-cerebral-kyler-fackrell-make-plays/581240001/

[Brandon494]

Not like he's young either, will turn 26 during the season.

[Brandon494]

I'm hoping we catch lighting in a bottle when Vince comes back because I don't trust Clay and Perry staying healthy all season

[pbmax]

Dwight Freeney is still available. :D

[texaspackerbacker]

No mention of Jayrone Elliot? I thought he was ahead of Fackrell. I hope they don't get Freeney or some other retread at this point. Biegel was better than T.J. Watt year before last, and then he was playing hurt last year. If he really is 100% like I saw him quoted in an article, there's a good chance we got him as a bargain in the 4th round, and he will be starter quality.

[bobblehead]

Was never a fan of Fackrell. He looked like he only had one move and once NFL tackles are aware of that they own you (sort of like Clay, but he was a step faster and then developed a bull rush).

[bobblehead]

Based on that Article I wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut unless Biegel isn't ready.

[call_me_ishmael]

I doubt he gets cut this year but he just doesn't seem like a player. I was hoping he'd become the dude-who-was-on-the-texans-then-the-eagles-whose-name-escapes-me-but-is-also-lanky-and-white. Doesn't seem likely though.

[mraynrand]

I doubt he gets cut this year but he just doesn't seem like a player. I was hoping he'd become the dude-who-was-on-the-texans-then-the-eagles-whose-name-escapes-me-but-is-also-lanky-and-white. Doesn't seem likely though.

Connor Barwin?

[Joemailman]

I thought Fackrell was okay tonight. Elliott was better.

[Bretsky]

Didn't like the picks from day one; still don't like it. Hopefully Beigel is better from day one.

[call_me_ishmael]

Connor Barwin?

Yep that's the one. He's a long, long, long way from Barwin. Sucks, but he is looking like a pretty epic bust.

[SMBASS]

I really, really wanted the Pack to sign Connor Barwin this offseason. Especially after seeing the very reasonable deal he got from the Rams. He's a high motor guy who can put heat on the QB and he played pretty well for the Eagles when they were using a 3-4 D.

[Fritz]

Fackrell reminds me of that safety from some Virginia team they took a few years ago. Tall, rangy, fast - and a complete bust. I think that guy was a third or fourth rounder.

[Brandon494]

Fackrell reminds me of that safety from some Virginia team they took a few years ago. Tall, rangy, fast - and a complete bust. I think that guy was a third or fourth rounder.

Aaron Rouse...Go Hokies!

[Fritz]

Yeah, Aaron Rouse. Had all the tools, physically. I think he made one incredible interception and return during one game, maybe a preseason game. But he just weren't a player.

[3irty1]

Yeah, Aaron Rouse. Had all the tools, physically. I think he made one incredible interception and return during one game, maybe a preseason game. But he just weren't a player.

I remember that. It was in the red zone against Peyton Manning.

[hoosier]

That was a huge gaffe by Manning, or maybe a no-give-a-shit gift in a game that was already out of hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCci2IuGPf4

Fackrell showed something last year. He seemed to disappear late in the season but before that he was getting pressure.

[Joemailman]

Yeah, Aaron Rouse. Had all the tools, physically. I think he made one incredible interception and return during one game, maybe a preseason game. But he just weren't a player.

Really stiff hips. Looked great running straight ahead. Changing direction was a real issue.

[Joemailman]

Fackrell showed something last year. He seemed to disappear late in the season but before that he was getting pressure.

Yes he was. Like a real Packer, he then had a hamstring injury. I think his inability to keep weight on was a factor too.

[Smidgeon]

Yeah, Aaron Rouse. Had all the tools, physically. I think he made one incredible interception and return during one game, maybe a preseason game. But he just weren't a player.

It's been too long since pick 6s were common for the Packers. When was the last one? 2-3-4 years ago?

[Joemailman]

It's been too long since pick 6s were common for the Packers. When was the last one? 2-3-4 years ago?

Randall and Rollins each had one in 2015.

[call_me_ishmael]

I fully, 110% expect to see the Packers pick up another OLB at cut down. There is no way they go in with Banged up Biegel, the two starters that are oft hurt, and Elliot, who also has an injury history I believe.

[wist43]

Fackrell was on my "do not draft" list...

Standing for the team photo - he looks the part; but, he simply doesn't have a single "quick twitch" muscle in his body. The plays he made in college - he barely made; I think it was obvious from the git-go that he wouldn't be able to compete at the NFL level.

When it comes to evaluating LB's - it seems like TT is always on the lookout for players that played the game the way he did, i.e. smart, technically sound, but in the end unathletic with a complete inability to actually make a play.

You would think that after all these years TT and the staff would be able to do some self-scouting and get this shit corrected, but they never do.

[Fritz]

I fully, 110% expect to see the Packers pick up another OLB at cut down. There is no way they go in with Banged up Biegel, the two starters that are oft hurt, and Elliot, who also has an injury history I believe.

This does seem like perhaps the weakest area on the team. It's like back in the day. Spahn and Sain and pray for rain.

But what kind of dregs are going to be available at cutdown? Even solid OLB's are in short supply in the NFL, specially ones who can rush the passer a little bit.

Is it too late to convert Christian Ringo?

[hoosier]

Yup, TT builds his draft board around boring, bad athletes. That is why the GBP haven't made the playoffs for eight years running.

[call_me_ishmael]

Ahmad Brooks is available. He is the perfect stop gap type guy. Would sign him immediately if off-the-field and health checks out.

[pbmax]

Ahmad Brooks is available. He is the perfect stop gap type guy. Would sign him immediately if off-the-field and health checks out.

Yes he is.

Ahmad Brooks on the way out in San Francisco (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/25/ahmad-brooks-on-the-way-out-in-san-francisco/)

[red]

Ahmad Brooks is available. He is the perfect stop gap type guy. Would sign him immediately if off-the-field and health checks out.

i loved that guy in college and wished we had gotten him in the supplemental draft that year.

guy never lived up to the hype, but he was a decent player

he is 33 though

but its not like we have a backup on the roster at OLB

[swede]

Fackrell was on my "do not draft" list...

Standing for the team photo - he looks the part; but, he simply doesn't have a single "quick twitch" muscle in his body. The plays he made in college - he barely made; I think it was obvious from the git-go that he wouldn't be able to compete at the NFL level.

When it comes to evaluating LB's - it seems like TT is always on the lookout for players that played the game the way he did, i.e. smart, technically sound, but in the end unathletic with a complete inability to actually make a play.

You would think that after all these years TT and the staff would be able to do some self-scouting and get this shit corrected, but they never do.

I did a lot of draft study that year, and I never could figure out why everyone had the kid rated so highly. He was old, thin, and, as noted above, he kind of barely made plays. Oh well, for every Fackrell there's a Lowry.

[mraynrand]

I did a lot of draft study that year, and I never could figure out why everyone had the kid rated so highly. He was old, thin, and, as noted above, he kind of barely made plays. Oh well, for every Fackrell there's a Lowry.

Swede, Packerrats is still waiting for you to produce. Or for produce. Got a poem for us about a linemen with short arms, an ILB who is repulsed by QBs, and a Man(on) of the SPRIGGS?

[pbmax]

Just so you know Rand, SPRIGGS™, is now trademarked.

Fackrell has speed and little else. Who was the other athletic prospect Ted had at OLB? Jeremy Thompson was it? KF looks worse on a pass rush.

[KYPack]

Really stiff hips. Looked great running straight ahead. Changing direction was a real issue.

Rouse looked great, but he was nuts in addition to being a stiff. He started for us vs the Bengals and played SO poorly, they cut him on Tuesday.