Official Cowboys Week 2017

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Chris Roth‏ @rothchris 23m23 minutes ago
@TyMontgomery2 on his "ClubhouseLive" show says he has multiple broken ribs, but is feeling better, can laugh & sleep now

@TyMontgomery2 aslo said wants to play in Dallas but has to weigh risk of damage to internal organs. #Packers

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all time series 18-17. 14-13 in regular season. 4-4 in the playoffs. Packers have won 6 of the last 7. Only loss was last year at Dallas. Packers lost 30-16.

[hoosier]

Packers lead all time series 18-17. 14-13 in regular season. 4-4 in the playoffs. Packers have won 6 of the last 7. Only loss was last year at Dallas. Packers lost 30-16.

the loss was at Green Bay

[Teamcheez1]

Chris Roth‏ @rothchris 23m23 minutes ago
@TyMontgomery2 on his "ClubhouseLive" show says he has multiple broken ribs, but is feeling better, can laugh & sleep now

@TyMontgomery2 aslo said wants to play in Dallas but has to weigh risk of damage to internal organs. #Packers

I can't imagine they let Montgomery play this week (he might be out for multiple weeks). It will be up to Jones, Ripkowski, and Mays to get the job done. Cobb will also get a few carries.

[texaspackerbacker]

He's listed as day to day, and a lot of players play with rib injuries - they can wrap it and protect it pretty well. Just the same, we would be fine with Jones, Mays, and maybe a little bit of Ripkowski. With the Cowboys' weak secondary, we will be doing a lot of passing anyway.

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Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL 23m23 minutes ago
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Packer working out former Colts offensive tackle Andrew Wylie today, according to a source

[MadScientist]

Aaron Wilson‏ @AaronWilson_NFL 23m23 minutes ago
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Packer working out former Colts offensive tackle Andrew Wylie today, according to a source
Not a great sign, as it means that the starters are likely out for a while longer and the other tackles on the roster aren't viable options.

[hoosier]

At least one of them out. If I had to guess who will take longer to return I would say Bulaga.

[gbgary]

At least one of them out. If I had to guess who will take longer to return I would say Bulaga.

i tend to agree although i hope he makes it, is effective, and finishes.

[Smidgeon]

Not a great sign, as it means that the starters are likely out for a while longer and the other tackles on the roster aren't viable options.

There are no other tackles on the roster that are healthy. Just guards that fake it.

[Tony Oday]

Jones will run for 100 yards and 2 TDs this week. Our defense will get run over and we lose to the Cowboys.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jones will run for 100 yards and 2 TDs this week. Our defense will get run over and we lose to the Cowboys.

I just don't believe that the Cowboys will run all over the Packers D. I think the run D has been pretty good this season.

[Smidgeon]

I just don't believe that the Cowboys will run all over the Packers D. I think the run D has been pretty good this season.

If Dez can't get it done, the Pack can focus on the run.

Dez has fewer yards than Devante (and slightly more than Jordy), but he has fewer catches than Cobb, Jordy, Devante, and Marty B. And he's been targeted 4th most in the league.

If the Pack can shut him down with King and Burnett can take Witten, I think the Packers win. They're one dimensional otherwise.

[QBME]

Opening Vegas line is Dallas -2.

[QBME]

Anybody hear any rumblings regarding Montravious Adams? I can't seem to cipher any meaningful info from various websites.

[Smidgeon]

Anybody hear any rumblings regarding Montravious Adams? I can't seem to cipher any meaningful info from various websites.

What have you heard? All I've seen is that he's practicing and his health is (relatively) back injury-wise. I assume he was still catching up and that's why he wasn't playing.

[Fritz]

Jones will run for 100 yards and 2 TDs this week. Our defense will get run over and we lose to the Cowboys.

I see what you"re doing. You've taken my mantle from last year.

Run with it, tho it is a heavy burden.

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Packer Report‏ @PackerReport 3h3 hours ago
Montgomery says he was hurt on first play. Trevathan's knee was nail; DL falling on him was hammer. Also broke ribs in title game he said.

Packer Report‏ @PackerReport 3h3 hours ago
So he got four more carries vs Chicago. Can't imagine what that was like.

I am not expecting to see him if there is an actual chance of internal organ damage.

In other news, if you watch Monty run, he often makes contact heads up, not crouched down. So I bet his torso takes more hits compared to RBs who are crouched. Its a very upright style and he doesn't lead with his head.

[texaspackerbacker]

Not much mentioned here about the Cowboys' weak pass defense. Their DBs are worse than ours. In addition to that, I've observed that Dak Prescott doesn't seem to have quite the accuracy he had last year, and he gets a lot worse when rushed. Last season, he was damn near the second coming of Aaron Rodgers. This year, he has been pretty ordinary. Also, their world-beater O Line has been way below last year's standard. They seemed to snap back the first half last week, but reverted to bad in the second half.

I expect a big Packer win, with our without Montgomery. I think he will play some but Jones will get more carries than Williams ever got (and he will show that he deserves them).

[QBME]

What have you heard? All I've seen is that he's practicing and his health is (relatively) back injury-wise. I assume he was still catching up and that's why he wasn't playing.

Haven't heard zip. He's not listed on any injury report, vis a vis "did not participate", "limited participation", etc. He is still listed on the active roster.

[esoxx]

Cowboys are a dumpster fire.

[gbgary]

I just don't believe that the Cowboys will run all over the Packers D. I think the run D has been pretty good this season.

Pack d was top 10 last year against the run but surprisingly are far down the list this year. that said our pass d is much better. hopefully daniels (and the rest of the d) can stay healthy from here on out.

[pbmax]

Cowboys are a dumpster fire.

+1 suspended Defensive player (or 3)

[gbgary]

Cowboys are a dumpster fire.

their o-line lost two starters and they swapped some terrible DBs for inexperienced rookies. they may be better but it's not showing yet. their middle LB lee won't play this week either. they'll miss him. dez is a slow one-trick pony and doesn't require a double team anymore.

[hoosier]

their o-line lost two starters and they swapped some terrible DBs for inexperienced rookies. they may be better but it's not showing yet. their middle LB lee won't play this week either. they'll miss him. dez is a slow one-trick pony and doesn't require a double team anymore.

Did you see him last January against GB? Did not look like a slow one-trick pony to me.

[mraynrand]

Did you see him last January against GB? Did not look like a slow one-trick pony to me.

He was covered by Gunter, who was a slow no-trick pony.

[call_me_ishmael]

Dez is not washed up, lol. Dude is a premier player, he just has an average-at-best quarterback throwing him the ball.

This is going to be a tough game. Would rather play 'em in October than December or January.

[mraynrand]

Bryant is decent at getting open - decent route runner when engaged, knows all the tricks to making space. Best quality is his aggressiveness at the point of the catch - catches contested throws, competes, is strong and can turn a pop-up into a score by maintaining his balance while the defender falls down.

Jason Witten is similar in his experience - good at route running and shielding the defender. But has slowed considerably.

[call_me_ishmael]

Dez's best quality is he is a grown ass man that will out jump and out muscle you for the ball. Dude is this generations TO.

[Fritz]

their o-line lost two starters and they swapped some terrible DBs for inexperienced rookies. they may be better but it's not showing yet. their middle LB lee won't play this week either. they'll miss him. dez is a slow one-trick pony and doesn't require a double team anymore.

I think Bryant is a slow two-or-three-trick pony.

[gbgary]

Dez only catches 40% of his targets. one of the worst % in the league. this means 60% of those targets are getting defensed or he's dropping them.

now with all my shit talking watch him light us up. lol

[mraynrand]

Dez's best quality is he is a grown ass man that will out jump and out muscle you for the ball. Dude is this generations TO.

but can he give a good interview while doing crunches?

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4df7d695cadcbbf76e0e0000-1190-625/terrell-owens-will-play-for-the-indoor-football-league-after-nfl-teams-show-zero-interest.jpg

[texaspackerbacker]

I watch the Cowboys every week, and it seems like Dez sulks or dogs it if he doesn't get the ball thrown his way early or often. Consequently, it seems like the Cowboys force it in to him sometimes when they would be better off running or throwing it elsewhere.

Gunter, who was maligned by so many in here, covered him well. It will be a damn shame if King or whoever is on him this week can't do at least as well.

[Rutnstrut]

The packers D has a way of making mediocre players great. I wouldn't be surprised if Beasley or Witten have a big day.

[Cheesehead Craig]

but can he give a good interview while doing crunches?

http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4df7d695cadcbbf76e0e0000-1190-625/terrell-owens-will-play-for-the-indoor-football-league-after-nfl-teams-show-zero-interest.jpg

He's more of a Thigh Master kind of guy.

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APRH

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Only Joe Thomas not practicing for #Packers. Bulaga, Bakhtiari, Daniels, Adams, Montgomery and Williams among those back

APRH

[hoosier]

That's nice, players returning to health finally. Hopefully they do not get Bulaga'ed.

What in the wide world of sports does APRH mean again? I looked it up and this is what I found staring back at me. Not all that illuminating, except possibly for the idea that "R" manages to keep its pad level low. I am guessing there might be another meaning that google hasn't learned to track as readily....


APRH acronym or abbreviation means:

A: Meaning of A in APRH. The letter A has two bars connected at a pointed edge and a cross bar holding them together. From an open end to a pointed edge signifies that all energies are trained to a point to achieve the most singularly important goal. The cross bar shows caution. Failure is avoided by stringing all required resources together. A also looks like a Pyramid with the peak as the apex of the Pyramid. Pyramids are iconic. A therefore symbolizes prominence and a desire to be recognized for ones achievements. The cross bar also represents a rung in ladder. To get to the top, one has to first step on the rung. It also means originality, a strong will power and an enterprising ability. The upper-case version consists of the two slanting sides of a triangle, crossed in the middle by a horizontal bar. It shows aspiration, the dominance to be successful, positive attitude, an optimistic world view and egotism.

P: Meaning of P in APRH. P has a heavy top standing on just a point to show it's strenght. It means strong, the ability tp perceive weakness and opportunities easily and clear-sightedness. By standing on its own, it shows self-centeredness, a thriving attitude and rigorousness. P also shows disconnection, strong will to go even alone and impartiality.

R: Meaning of R in APRH. Letter R sits comfortably on two legs that are a litlle spread apart. It displays great strength. It's close top to itself is uncaring, impetuous, and insensitive.

H: Meaning of H in APRH. H looks like a ladder. As a ladder, it implies rising from the bottom with effort. H shows inspiration and firmness. The connected of the uprights parts indicate impartiality. The letter H is upright and stable indicating calmness and self-reliance.

[QBME]

That's nice, players returning to health finally. Hopefully they do not get Bulaga'ed.

What in the wide world of sports does APRH mean again? I looked it up and this is what I found staring back at me. Not all that illuminating, except possibly for the idea that "R" manages to keep its pad level low. I am guessing there might be another meaning that google hasn't learned to track as readily....

Assuming Players Remain Healthy

Are you catfishin' me?

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Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13 5h5 hours ago
#Packers WR Davante Adams (concussion) is working through position drills. Very good sign.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLUJe-KVwAAYBN3.jpg:large

[mraynrand]

Assuming Players Remain Healthy

Are you catfishin' me?

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?29775-PackerRats-Glossary

[KYPack]

I watch the Cowboys every week, and it seems like Dez sulks or dogs it if he doesn't get the ball thrown his way early or often. Consequently, it seems like the Cowboys force it in to him sometimes when they would be better off running or throwing it elsewhere.

Gunter, who was maligned by so many in here, covered him well. It will be a damn shame if King or whoever is on him this week can't do at least as well.

I maligned him, all righty.

The guy couldn't run, no speed.

The Packers did worse than malign him, they cut him bc of it.

[mraynrand]

Gunter, who was maligned by so many in here, covered him well.

that's not what I saw

[pbmax]

Dez has 9 receptions on 12 targets for 132 yards and 2 TDs.

[Joemailman]

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[mraynrand]

Dez has 9 receptions on 12 targets for 132 yards and 2 TDs.

Gunter was thrown at 10 times with 6 receptions, two TDs, one PI and about 90 yards yeilded. He was competitive on some snaps and all Bryant's yards weren't against him, but overall Gunter was pretty marginal.

[pbmax]

Gunter was thrown at 10 times with 6 receptions, two TDs, one PI and about 90 yards yeilded. He was competitive on some snaps and all Bryant's yards weren't against him, but overall Gunter was pretty marginal.

Did you just rewatch the game? :D

[mraynrand]

Did you just rewatch the game? :D

scanned through it, yep.

Adams was held on a critical third down. Wonder how much home cookin' will be going on... League needs Dallas to win a game.

Is Sean Lee really out? That guy is too good.

[Pugger]

I maligned him, all righty.

The guy couldn't run, no speed.

The Packers did worse than malign him, they cut him bc of it.

And now he isn't doing much in Carolina. He's been inactive for half of their games so far.

[KYPack]

You really can't have a player like Gunter in your coverages. He couldn't cover flys, 9's, go routes, streaks, whatever you want to call them. He didn't have the straight line speed to cover a deep route. So you had to have help in the various forms to keep that back door closed. When you do that, you leave openings that a team like Dallas can take advantage of. The fact that Prescott is pretty green probably saved our bacon in that game.

Tex, sometimes you have to take off them G&G goggles and look at our players for what they are, not what you hope them to be.

[gbgary]

Dez has 9 receptions on 12 targets for 132 yards and 2 TDs.

40 targets, 16 receptions, 212 yards, 2 tds
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/receiving.htm

[pbmax]

40 targets, 16 receptions, 212 yards, 2 tds
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2017/receiving.htm

That was supposed to read "Dez had" as in he had those numbers versus Pack in playoffs.

[Fritz]

You really can't have a player like Gunter in your coverages. He couldn't cover flys, 9's, go routes, streaks, whatever you want to call them. He didn't have the straight line speed to cover a deep route. So you had to have help in the various forms to keep that back door closed. When you do that, you leave openings that a team like Dallas can take advantage of. The fact that Prescott is pretty green probably saved our bacon in that game.

Tex, sometimes you have to take off them G&G goggles and look at our players for what they are, not what you hope them to be.

If you do that, and replace them with beer goggles, you'll find that Bretsky's Green Bay bikini gals look magnificent. Even better than LaDarius Gunter

[gbgary]

That was supposed to read "Dez had" as in he had those numbers versus Pack in playoffs.

oops. my bad. :bow:

[Bossman641]

Isn't word supposed to come down regarding Elliott at any time?

[Fritz]

Isn't word supposed to come down regarding Elliott at any time?


Jayrone was cut at the end of training camp. I think somebody picked him up, though I don't recall who.

[Harlan Huckleby]

You really can't have a player like Gunter in your coverages. He couldn't cover flys, 9's, go routes, streaks, whatever you want to call them.

I just had a flashback to backyard football. I was a big liability in the secondary. (We had only 2 or 3 on a team, so this was well before era of specialization.) Fortunately the ref was very liberal about contact down field since it was honor system. In fact, you could tackle before the ball got there if you didn't wrap up.

[pbmax]

I just had a flashback to backyard football. I was a big liability in the secondary. (We had only 2 or 3 on a team, so this was well before era of specialization.) Fortunately the ref was very liberal about contact down field since it was honor system. In fact, you could tackle before the ball got there if you didn't wrap up.

Comment of the month!

[pbmax]

No sight of Monty today during media availability section of practice, though M3 had said he may do more today at practice.

Adams, Bulaga and Bach were out there.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm beginning to think that Devante Adam's isn't human, or perhaps has Adamantium bones.

[gbgary]

Isn't word supposed to come down regarding Elliott at any time?

yup. they promised this week.

[gbgary]

I just had a flashback to backyard football. I was a big liability in the secondary. (We had only 2 or 3 on a team, so this was well before era of specialization.) Fortunately the ref was very liberal about contact down field since it was honor system. In fact, you could tackle before the ball got there if you didn't wrap up.

https://www.packerforum.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/roflmao.png

[gbgary]

No sight of Monty today during media availability section of practice, though M3 had said he may do more today at practice.

Adams, Bulaga and Bach were out there.

MM said he'd only due individual work i believe

[Joemailman]

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[Fritz]

Is anybody else worried about Daniels? Will he be out for months, then finally reappear for the last three games of the season?

[KYPack]

Is anybody else worried about Daniels? Will he be out for months, then finally reappear for the last three games of the season?

Yeah, me.

I figured they were resting big Mike to insure he'd play vs Dallas. Now I think the big boy is hurting and that's bad. Those big muscle injuries can last all season.

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Video and article about everyone's favorite Jared Cook catch from last year.

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cowboys/post/_/id/4762927/third-and-20-how-the-packers-booted-the-cowboys-from-the-2016-playoffs

3rd and 20. Why wait for fourth down?

[Pugger]

Is anybody else worried about Daniels? Will he be out for months, then finally reappear for the last three games of the season?

Yes. I'm also worried about Bakh and Bulaga. It isn't a good sign that these 3 players are not full participants at practice yet. Our tackles might also be out for a while. :sad:

[gbgary]

Is anybody else worried about Daniels? Will he be out for months, then finally reappear for the last three games of the season?

i think MM's been sand bagging. i think some of the guys who didn't play last week could have. he thought they had enough to beat the bears without using them. he knows this game with dal is big, home field wise, and they'll all be ready...except maybe Ty but it wouldn't surprise me if he played too.

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Packer Report‏ @PackerReport 38m38 minutes ago
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Adams still in concussion protocol, MM says. Needs to be cleared before they get on the plane.

[denverYooper]

i think MM's been sand bagging. i think some of the guys who didn't play last week could have. he thought they had enough to beat the bears without using them. he knows this game with dal is big, home field wise, and they'll all be ready...except maybe Ty but it wouldn't surprise me if he played too.

M3 has made mention many times about building their season every year so they finish strong. Part of that strategy seems to be that they are much more likely to give guys who are injured early in the season more time to heal. I don't think they look at it in terms of whether or not they can beat opponent X without player Y. It is just early enough that they are willing to let guys rest more so they are available later in the season.

[mraynrand]

M3 has made mention many times about building their season every year so they finish strong. Part of that strategy seems to be that they are much more likely to give guys who are injured early in the season more time to heal. I don't think they look at it in terms of whether or not they can beat opponent X without player Y. It is just early enough that they are willing to let guys rest more so they are available later in the season.

I think this is spot on. But I bet they thought they could beat the Bears... :)

[Guiness]

I think this is spot on. But I bet they thought they could beat the Bears... :)

A bit of trouble believing that. No matter how soft he thought the Bears were, does anyone believe he'd endanger an opportunity to take the lead in the all-time series? IMO that game was bigger on the schedule than others because of that.

[mraynrand]

A bit of trouble believing that. No matter how soft he thought the Bears were, does anyone believe he'd endanger an opportunity to take the lead in the all-time series? IMO that game was bigger on the schedule than others because of that.

Fans care about the all-time series. I definitely want that win and the all-time record, and I know you do too. I doubt Stubby cares at all - coaches are focused on the win and the season goal of championship. He might give it lip service, but that's something coaches maybe talk about after they retire as a sheepskin on the wall sort of thing.

I'm reminded of the LeRoy Butler story from when he was a rookie. He was filling up his tank at the gas station and a fan said "Hey, you gotta beat the Bears this week!" Butler said "We'll do our best" the fan said "I don't want you to do your best, I want you to win" Butler said that's when he really understood how much the games mean to fans.

[Bossman641]

Making the drive up from Austin again. will be damn near impossible to top the playoff game last year.

[gbgary]

I think this is spot on. But I bet they thought they could beat the Bears... :)

:five:

[Freak Out]

Sounds like Daniels is a go.

[Joemailman]

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[Joemailman]

Looks like Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones get a chance to play .

[pbmax]

Monty doubtful. So who gets the start? Williams, Ripper or Jones?

[pbmax]

Adams has cleared concussion protocol, should play versus Cowboys.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2017/10/07/packers-wr-davante-adams-clears-protocol-cowboys-game/743168001/

[KYPack]

[QUOTE=pbmax;942452]Monty doubtful. So who gets the start? Williams, Ripper or Jones?[/o wit

Start Williams, mix in Jonesy and go with the hot hand. Play the Ripper in his spots...Pass pro, short yardage (not that he's real good at that) and run some decent screens with him.

Oh yeah and pray like hell.

[texaspackerbacker]

Start Jones, mix in Mays and a bit of Ripkowski, let Williams sit on the bench.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Start Jones, mix in Mays and a bit of Ripkowski, let Williams sit on the bench.

ya. Hopefully we'll be saying "use Monty as a third down back" by end of season.

[vince]

I too liked what Jones brought last week. I do think we'll see Williams flash yet. Of the rooks, I'd say he's the best 3-down back at this point due to his pass protection and receiving skills. As a runner, his aggressive one-cut and hit-the-hole hard style fits the scheme, but he just needs to get better syncing up his clock with the movement and blocking of the line. He'll settle down and start to see/learn which lanes are going to open up and hit the right gaps with better timing. He doesn't have elite speed, but when he does get to the second level he can both make guys miss and make DB's regret having to get in his way.

[channtheman]

Adams has cleared concussion protocol, should play versus Cowboys.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2017/10/07/packers-wr-davante-adams-clears-protocol-cowboys-game/743168001/

I'm amazed. I was really worried about his health long term, and for it to be "just" a concussion and he's expected to play 10 days later.:wow:

[Joemailman]

I didn't see how Monty got hurt. However, the fact that he has cracked ribs may confirm my concern that he was running too high. Gotta protect those ribs with those shoulder pads.

[gbgary]

I didn't see how Monty got hurt. However, the fact that he has cracked ribs may confirm my concern that he was running too high. Gotta protect those ribs with those shoulder pads.

he took a travathian helmet crown to his right side after being kind of stood up.

[Harlan Huckleby]

he took a travathian helmet crown to his right side after being kind of stood up.

mailman is an insensitive bastard

[pbmax]

I'm amazed. I was really worried about his health long term, and for it to be "just" a concussion and he's expected to play 10 days later.:wow:

I thought neck problem was just a day away from being diagnosed.

I was already searching for which cervical vertebrae the Packers haven't damaged yet.