Week 5 other games thread

[Cheesehead Craig]

NE holds off Tampa for the win. Tampa had a shot at the end, but too many passes in the field of play and a false start penalty wasted too much clock. Still they had a shot at the end, even if it was a horrible pass.

Also, these color rush uni things are awful.

[pbmax]

NE is fortunate the Bucs stink offensively or they'd be 2-3 right now.

I agree. It also doesn't help missing three FGs.

In some ways, I am stunned Crosby is still here. Normally a down year like that is too costly to live through.

[Pugger]

NE holds off Tampa for the win. Tampa had a shot at the end, but too many passes in the field of play and a false start penalty wasted too much clock. Still they had a shot at the end, even if it was a horrible pass.

Also, these color rush uni things are awful.

I do like the all white we and NE wore this year but most of them are dreadful.

[MadScientist]

I agree. It also doesn't help missing three FGs.

In some ways, I am stunned Crosby is still here. Normally a down year like that is too costly to live through.

Crosby had a good track record, and the year after was willing to put his money where his foot is. He agreed to change his contract so that most of the money was performance bonuses, and he could only make what the contract was originally signed for by kicking really well. He did and earned every bonus, which turned into a new, big contract and never looked back.

[pbmax]

Crosby had a good track record, and the year after was willing to put his money where his foot is. He agreed to change his contract so that most of the money was performance bonuses, and he could only make what the contract was originally signed for by kicking really well. He did and earned every bonus, which turned into a new, big contract and never looked back.

He did do those things, but he had to stay the kicker in 2012 to agree to an altered deal.

In a franchise that is winning a bit less, the coach would have thrown a fit to cut the kicker in order to secure his job.

[Joemailman]

NE holds off Tampa for the win. Tampa had a shot at the end, but too many passes in the field of play and a false start penalty wasted too much clock. Still they had a shot at the end, even if it was a horrible pass.

Also, these color rush uni things are awful.

Bears and Packers are the only ones that work, imo.

[pbmax]

This week I will be mostly ignoring Pittsburgh versus Jacksonville while watching Detroit versus Carolina. CBS has a terrible slate of games today.

[vince]

When the Packers aren't playing, NFL Red Zone - all the action and none of the commercials - is the bomb IMO.

http://goatdee.net/213476/watch-nfl-network
if anyone's interested in streaming it.

[mraynrand]

Also, these color rush uni things are awful.

I've said before it's like watching basic electric football.

https://www.kshs.org/cool3/graphics/ftballgameclose.jpg

[mraynrand]

Miles Garrett - first play, first sack.

[mraynrand]

When the Packers aren't playing, NFL Red Zone - all the action and none of the commercials - is the bomb IMO.

http://goatdee.net/213476/watch-nfl-network
if anyone's interested in streaming it.

yup. And at halftime you can marvel at Andrew Siciliano's amazingly large ears

[vince]

yup. And at halftime you can marvel at Andrew Siciliano's amazingly large ears
no doubt. It's hard to focus on what he's saying they're so fking distracting.

[mraynrand]

There's few things I like more than a Philly home loss. Not looking good for that today.

[gbgary]

nice throw and catch for the panthers vs det.

[vince]

Jags might be for real this year. Weak division. #5 scoring offense. Fournette's looking studly.
#6 scoring defense #1 passing defense and leading the league in sacks. They're getting after it.
If Bortles can keep himself from losing games they'll be right there with Houston.
At Pittsburgh today good test.

Bengals look like they might have some things figured out too. That defense is legit and Mixon's a future star if he's got the maturity. Don't know much about that.
That comeback win won't have a lot of playoff tiebreaker implications, but it could look like a big win looking back later on.
Good early matchup with Buffalo, who I want to be good but just looks inept on offense.

Dalton goes down. Not sure if he's out or not but either way they can work with McCarron I think.

[mraynrand]

Pluck by Hyde!

[mraynrand]

If you like turnovers, just watch Cleveland in the red zone.

[vince]

Pluck by Hyde!
Fire Ted Thompson!

[vince]

If you like turnovers, just watch Cleveland in the red zone.
Wow their futility is impressive. 4 scoring opportunities to lead in a game for the first time all year. 2 missed field goals, a horrible option-pitch fumble turnover at the 5 yard line and a terrible pass for a pick at the goal line.

Kizer looks hopelessly in over his head.

[mraynrand]

Gordon running like a man possessed! #superchargers

[vince]

Kizer's been charitably benched. Sometimes you can start QB's too early.

[vince]

Dalton gets hurt. Stays in and proceeds to throw 2 picks locking on and forcing passes to Green and keep Buffalo right there.

[vince]

Kizer's been charitably benched. Sometimes you can start QB's too early.
And Hogan immediately matriculates the team downfield for a TD and the first Cleveland lead all year.

[vince]

Eli Manning's days may be numbered. He's looking old out there.

NFL Red Zone Guy
"It's a lot easier to sack Eli Manning when he falls down like Maggie Simpson as he did right there."

[vince]

Jags defense showing up bigtime in Pittsburgh with 2 pick sixes in the second half.

[pbmax]

Whatever McCarthy's failings, at least he isn't Todd Haley:

Warren Sharp‏ @SharpFootball 41m41 minutes ago
Pittsburgh Steelers just can't think logically or rationally:
JAC #1 pass D
JAC #32 run D
Ben: 33 attempts (2 INTs, 52 RTG)
Bell: 12 carries

Warren Sharp @SharpFootball 33m33 minutes ago
Steelers. Not prescient.
Raise to ->
Ben: 37 attempts (3 INTs, 2 Pick 6s, 42 RTG)
Bell: 13 carries

[Bretsky]

The Plodder looks lighter this year

[esoxx]

Jared Goff looks like he's going to be the real deal.

[Bretsky]

Jared Goff looks like he's going to be the real deal.

yup,and it looks like the Rams hired the real deal as well

[Maxie the Taxi]

Announcer of Seattle game almost slipped just now and called them the Seahags. LOL

[woodbuck27]

Another 'Wild and Crazy' Week 5 in the NFL with 8 Upsets out of 12 games and two more games to go.

[denverYooper]

Bears and Packers are the only ones that work, imo.

I dunno. The Packers color rush uniforms give me weird flashbacks to the 80's.

[denverYooper]

I dunno. The Packers color rush uniforms give me weird flashbacks to the 80's.

Also, Leonard Fournette may have crushed your dreams of winning in FF this week.

[denverYooper]

Not my dreams.

Electric sheep.

[denverYooper]

PKD

[denverYooper]

Also, it turns out that AI is so far like children: prone to amplify the bias of their parents.

[denverYooper]

What I really came to this thread to say was this: how come it seems lately like Collingsworth chuffed a pack of unfiltered Lucky Strikes before he does SNF?

[pbmax]

I think Al takes him out for a lot of steak nights.

[Joemailman]

J.J. Watt helped off the field.

[denverYooper]

I think Al takes him out for a lot of steak nights.

He does have that meaty glow about him.

[denverYooper]

Breno Giacomini sighting.

[denverYooper]

Points to NBC for Tom Petty "Don't Do Me Like That" on the bump.

[pbmax]

Points to NBC for Tom Petty "Don't Do Me Like That" on the bump.

SNL and the Florida Gator game did I Won't Back Down this weekend.

[woodbuck27]

vince;942566... " Eli Manning's days may be numbered. He's looking old out there.

NFL Red Zone Guy

"It's a lot easier to sack Eli Manning when he falls down like Maggie Simpson as he did right there."

Comment woodbuck27: It got really bad for him today with what seems like a Season ending injury to WR O.Beckham Jr. He suffered a severe leg injury. Checking that but I believe it was a break.

[Pugger]

What the hell happened to JJ Watt??

[Joemailman]

What the hell happened to JJ Watt??

I didn't see what happened, but it's a knee. He couldn't put any pressure on it.

[woodbuck27]

vince;942566... " Eli Manning's days may be numbered. He's looking old out there.

NFL Red Zone Guy

"It's a lot easier to sack Eli Manning when he falls down like Maggie Simpson as he did right there."

Comment woodbuck27: It got really bad for him today with what seems like a Season ending injury to WR O.Beckham Jr. He suffered a severe leg injury. Checking that but I believe it was a break.

Here it is:

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/othersport/863903/Odell-Beckham-Jr-ankle-injury-Los-Angeles-Chargers-New-York-Giants-NFL-OBJ

New York Giants confirm BROKEN ankle for Odell Beckham Jr in Los Angeles Chargers defeat

ODELL BECKHAM JR has fractured his ankle, the New York Giants have confirmed.

By UCHE AMAKO ... PUBLISHED: 00:16, Mon, Oct 9, 2017 | UPDATED: 00:16, Mon, Oct 9, 2017

********************************************

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/odell-beckham-suffers-gruesome-ankle-injury-late-giants-game-article-1.3549577

Odell Beckham suffers fractured ankle in Giants loss to Chargers, may need surgery

[pbmax]

Breno Giacomini sighting.

Zombo playing in the night game.

[woodbuck27]

I didn't see what happened, but it's a knee. He couldn't put any pressure on it.

See the 1:30 and 1:45 Marks of this Video. It's a serious looking left knee injury to J J Watt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0RWGxnoskE

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jared Goff looks like he's going to be the real deal.

Carson Wentz is the real deal. Goff has a good passer rating, but the difficulty of his throws is low. Lots of dinking and dunking. Lots of free receivers off play action because Gurley looks like the player from his rookie year.

[pbmax]

I am not one to stand on formality. But I do believe in restraint in many cases.

Al Michaels just said Watt's injury and the Dez Bryant one from last year were the same and that Bryant missed 3 games. The team hasn't even done an MRI yet.

In the meantime, this popped up:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 6m6 minutes ago
#Texans JJ Watt, who the team just announced has a tibial plateau fracture, is out for the season, source said. Another year ended on IR.

Everyone wants to know, but don't say more than you can possibly determine.

[pbmax]

I am not one to stand on formality. But I do believe in restraint in many cases.

Al Michaels just said Watt's injury and the Dez Bryant one from last year were the same and that Bryant missed 3 games. The team hasn't even done an MRI yet.

In the meantime, this popped up:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 6m6 minutes ago
#Texans JJ Watt, who the team just announced has a tibial plateau fracture, is out for the season, source said. Another year ended on IR.

Everyone wants to know, but don't say more than you can possibly determine.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago
Texans say they’re uncertain how long JJ Watt will be out with his tibial plateau fracture to his left leg.

[call_me_ishmael]

As I have been saying all year, Texans are my dork horse super bowl pick. They're young, but they're gonna be good. If not this year, next. JJ getting hurt hurts a lot obviously for this year. DeShaun Watson is gonna be a good one. He just played a perfect pass for the TD.

[pbmax]

Going over the Texans history of bad QBs with Bill O'Brien, they were playing "Even The Losers" from Petty under it.

[woodbuck27]

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 8m8 minutes ago
Texans say they’re uncertain how long JJ Watt will be out with his tibial plateau fracture to his left leg.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000858798/article/jj-watt-out-for-season-with-tibial-plateau-fracture

J.J. Watt out for season with tibial plateau fracture

By Jeremy Bergman NFL.co ...Published: Oct. 8, 2017 at 08:50 p.m. Updated: Oct. 8, 2017 at 11:09 p.m.

[mraynrand]

Just some awful injuries today. Hate to see guys go down regardless of team.

[woodbuck27]

KC WR Tyreek Hill has 'blazing speed'.He is something else.

The Kansas City Chiefs are a seriously good team.

The Chiefs will go to 5-0 and right now lead Houston on the Road 39-20 with 6:22 remaining in the 4th Qtr.

TOP PERFORMERS

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

....Passing .......CP/AT....... YDS........TD........... INT
A. Smith..........29/37...... 324......... 3.............. 0

[smuggler]

Watson chucked 5 TD passes in the loss. He is looking pretty damn good so far.

[mraynrand]

Watson chucked 5 TD passes in the loss. He is looking pretty damn good so far.

He's changed a team that struggled to score a few FGs into a team that puts up 30s and 50s.

[Joemailman]

Seems Jay Cutler isn't the only think wrong with the Miami offense:


Miami Dolphins offensive line coach Chris Foerster resigned Monday and said he was seeking medical help after a social media video surfaced appearing to show him snorting three lines of a white powdery substance at a desk.

Hours after the 56-second video was posted on Facebook and Twitter, Foerster announced his resignation in a statement released by the team.

"I am resigning from my position with the Miami Dolphins and accept full responsibility for my actions," he said. "I want to apologize to the organization, and my sole focus is on getting the help that I need, with the support of my family and medical professionals."

It's unclear when or where the video was made, or how it became public. Foerster, 55, has been an NFL assistant since 1992 and joined head coach Adam Gase's staff in Miami last year.

"We were made aware of the video late last night and have no tolerance for this behavior," the team said in a statement that accompanied Foerster's resignation announcement. "After speaking with Chris this morning, he accepted full responsibility and we accepted his resignation effective immediately. Although Chris is no longer with the organization, we will work with him to get the help he needs during this time."

The video appears to show Foerster and the powdery substance on the desk. The man is holding a rolled-up $20 bill in his right hand, and appears to adjust the camera with his left hand.

"Hey babe, miss you, thinking about you," he says. "How about me going to a meeting and doing this before I go?"

He then snorts the substance into his nose though the $20 bill and notes "those big grains falling" as residue lands on the desk.

[mraynrand]

Yep, they got problems in Miami: that $20 bill shows that the Dolphin org. is cheap. Any self respecting O-line coach should have a $100 bill to impress the escorts.

[pbmax]

Unreal.

[Joemailman]

Bradford starting for Vikings tonight.

[mraynrand]

Bradford starting for Vikings tonight.

As usual, I will hope both teams lose.

[Joemailman]

Either will do.

http://www.terrencebrown.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/burning-boat.jpghttp://www.byronbear.com/images/fed_bear_dead_bear.JPG

[Maxie the Taxi]

I'll be watching Trubisky with interest. I saw one game he played in college and was impressed. Very strong arm.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Trubisky looks good. Vikings benefitting from ref's calls. Should be 9-0, Chicago.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chicago's offensive personnel (besides the RBs) is wretched. Trubisky reminds me a bit of Aaron Rodgers. I think the Bears got themselves a good one.

[SMBASS]

What a sad ass display of, "professional" football. This game is absolutely terrible. Granted he doesn't have much help, but Trubisky is looking more and more like a clueless rookie QB in his first start as the game goes on and the Vikes D figures him out.

[ThunderDan]

Bear's punter now has their longest completion of the season.

[pbmax]

OK, its my turn. Why not go for 2?

[ThunderDan]

OK, its my turn. Why not go for 2?

Just wait til they go for it on 4&1

[ThunderDan]

They will go for 2 now.

[ThunderDan]

That was an awesomely designed play. Well done Chicago.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm sure glad these refs are full-time now. They might be worse than before. Bears on the short end of the stick most of the night.

[MadScientist]

Trubisky has proven himself to be a true Bears QB - late pick deep in their own territory to lose the game.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Trubisky looked good early, but fell apart as the game went on. It doesn't help that Chicago is in a league with Cleveland and the Jets for worst offensive personnel in the league. Once the bootlegs stopped working, they didn't have anything in the passing game.

[yetisnowman]

I'm sure glad these refs are full-time now. They might be worse than before. Bears on the short end of the stick most of the night.

The last holding call was absolutely unconscionable.

[Joemailman]

Trubisky looked good early, but fell apart as the game went on. It doesn't help that Chicago is in a league with Cleveland and the Jets for worst offensive personnel in the league. Once the bootlegs stopped working, they didn't have anything in the passing game.

I was a little surprised that Fox would throw him out there in his 1st game against a really good defense. With no downfield weapons, there was little chance of success. I don't know what the hurry is.

[Harlan Huckleby]

That was some very boring football.

How could anybody last watching a game like that in real time? Endless ticky-tacky penalties, endless delays for this and that. Add in the commercials and it was torture.

[Iron Mike]

Trubisky looked good early, but fell apart as the game went on. It doesn't help that Chicago is in a league with Cleveland and the Jets for worst offensive personnel in the league. Once the bootlegs stopped working, they didn't have anything in the passing game.

Didn't they trade 4 draft picks to move up and get him, too?? There goes your supporting personnel. I suppose they'll Bearify Trubisky's career by trading draft picks for washed-up free agents down the road. Then flush the whole thing down the toilet in 3-4 years.

[pbmax]

I was a little surprised that Fox would throw him out there in his 1st game against a really good defense. With no downfield weapons, there was little chance of success. I don't know what the hurry is.

Exactly. That is a coach and a GM who aren't in control of the situation anymore and are just reacting to stave off criticism.

If he needed to sit for a year and play sparingly, take the hit, draft high, go get a reasonable veteran backup next year.

[pbmax]

Paul Pabst‏ @PaulPabst 8m8 minutes ago
When Trubisky hit his first few passes last night, Bears fans reacted as if they saw fire made for the first time.

[texaspackerbacker]

I suppose it's too early to label Trubisky the new Cutler ....... but man, watching that game, it sure came to mind.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20971093/what-learned-learn-week-5-2017-nfl-season-rough-sunday-odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants-jj-watt-houston-texans

What we learned (and didn't learn) in Week 5 of NFL

[woodbuck27]

This is the slickest Two Point Play I've ever seen and it happened in last night's MNF Game Minny @ Chicago:

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/917585711754121216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdetroit.cbslocal.com%2F2017%2 F10%2F09%2Fwatch-bears-pull-off-incredible-2-point-conversion-trick-play%2F

[pbmax]

This is the slickest Two Point Play I've ever seen and it happened in last night's MNF Game Minny @ Chicago:

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/917585711754121216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdetroit.cbslocal.com%2F2017%2 F10%2F09%2Fwatch-bears-pull-off-incredible-2-point-conversion-trick-play%2F

They stole this from the Bucs. From the Year 2000.

FootballScoop Staff @FootballScoop
Let’s talk about that 2 point play http://footballscoop.com/news/lets-talk-2-point-play/

Jack M Silverstein‏ @readjack
Confirmed by @AdamHoge: Bears OC Dowell Loggains saw the Bucs run the 2-pointer in 2000.

History of the play - @WCGridiron: https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/10/11/16457292/the-possible-history-of-that-wild-2-pointer-mitchell-trubisky-dowell-loggains-les-steckel



https://vimeo.com/237808529

[Fritz]

Lions goin' down to N'Awlins. Let's see if their moribund offense wakes up, and if their playing-over-their-heads defense wakes up to reality.