Official 2018 nfl draft thread

[Joemailman]

If McGlinchy is there, it's a possibility. In fact, Draft Analyst has him #14 on their Big Board. Personally, I don't like the idea of taking a guy who's probably going to play RT at #14. I think that's too high a spot for a RT.

[pbmax]

OK, so Dorsey is proving to be the one (former) Packer insider who talks all the time to the media, by name and anonymously. He has to have been the source for most of McGinn's material for 20 years.

Today he spun a tale of the Browns taking Mayfield. Its either true or a tale to get the Jets to trade up with them.

However, if it were actually accurate, Darnold falling might get someone to trade up for the QB with the highest pro floor. That could move either the Giants, Browns or Broncos down the board, teams who might take a defender.

So I think I am rooting for this to happen. But I think the pick is still Darnold.

[ND72]

word is the browns are locked in on baker mayfield at #1

smart move IMO, to me him and rosen are the only two legit QBs in that first tier.

also, out of the blue on draft day, mcginn came out and said the packers wanted bulaga to take a pay cut but he refused. could we be looking at a LT at 14?

You're kidding right? In February Baker Mayfield was listed as a 2nd-3rd round selection...he has bust written all over him. I'm willing to bet Mayfield is out of the league in 3-4 years, just like Johnny football.

[pbmax]

You're kidding right? In February Baker Mayfield was listed as a 2nd-3rd round selection...he has bust written all over him. I'm willing to bet Mayfield is out of the league in 3-4 years, just like Johnny football.

I don't think he'll bust, but I don't buy that he is the pick.

John Dorsey probably isn't kidding when he says hand size matters.

In football.

Story making the rounds is that Dorsey told Hue Jackson they are taking Mayfield yesterday. Today its all over the news. Now Dorsey knows where the leaks are coming from :lol:

[ND72]

I don't think he'll bust, but I don't buy that he is the pick.

John Dorsey probably isn't kidding when he says hand size matters.

In football.

Story making the rounds is that Dorsey told Hue Jackson they are taking Mayfield yesterday. Today its all over the news. Now Dorsey knows where the leaks are coming from :lol:

HA...true

[pbmax]

Between Chicago and Tampa Bay, someone is taking a DB according to mocks done today. Which means if the board falls the way most mocks pick it, moving to 9 gets you Fitz, James Edminds or Smith.

If you want Ward, you need to either get to #7 or #8 at a minimum.

[red]

You're kidding right? In February Baker Mayfield was listed as a 2nd-3rd round selection...he has bust written all over him. I'm willing to bet Mayfield is out of the league in 3-4 years, just like Johnny football.

i don't think so at all

guys cocky and can ball

[ND72]

i don't think so at all

guys cocky and can ball

Last season 47% of his passes were screen/bubble passes. I can complete 80% of those. Oklahoma threw more screen/bubble plays than anyone in the country.


Anyone else see the Packers are looking to move up to get Fitzpatrick?

[pbmax]

He is very in love with engaging with the blocker, but he doesn't land his hands like he is planning a bull rush. Just a kinda belly bump. Lets the OT get his hands on his jersey and then its a dance.

When he lands his hands first, he's hard to control. I am less worried about this pick after that video. Work in progress, but holy cow he could be hard to control.

Finally finished watching. He has some vision and is better staying at home versus option than Matthews. :D

But he's not lightning quick and has trouble disengaging from the tackle when they get locked up. Way too much fighting. Lotta leverage when he gets his hands in a good spot.

Needs a lot of work. Love to have him but still not sure about 14.

But hard to say, don't remember watching many 6' 7" guys. He gets pushed around a little TE took him for a ride on a run (he played the run OK for the most part) by just getting hands on his shoulder pads.

[pbmax]

Last season 47% of his passes were screen/bubble passes. I can complete 80% of those. Oklahoma threw more screen/bubble plays than anyone in the country.

Anyone else see the Packers are looking to move up to get Fitzpatrick?

Yes on moving up. Fitz or Ward is theory.

They ran a comparison of short throws. Mayfield threw downfield more than Allen. I'll see if I can find it.

[red]

get the fucking thing started already

[pbmax]

Are we doing the picks here or in Round 1 thread?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Come on Cleveland, take Quinton Nelson.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Are we doing the picks here or in Round 1 thread?
Start a new thread PB

[Guiness]

draft seemingly starts at 8...what's the over/under on the first pick?

So much for Goodell's human boo shield of two Cowboy hall of famers and future HOFer - they booed longly and lustily. Staubach looked pretty uncomfortable.

[Cheesehead Craig]

draft seemingly starts at 8...what's the over/under on the first pick?

So much for Goodell's human boo shield of two Cowboy hall of famers and future HOFer - they booed longly and lustily. Staubach looked pretty uncomfortable.

Loved it that Staubach threw his football to the pack of Steeler fans.

[pbmax]

New thread it is!

[red]

we're already behind

[red]

fuck you guys then

official draft thread not good enough?

[pbmax]

fuck you guys then

official draft thread not good enough?

Its where all the hard work of prep goes. Need a glory boy Round 1 thread for picks.

[red]

mayfield goes #1

browns make the smart move and don't draft the D-2 QB or the the next bust out of USC

that should make other teams in need of QBs panic.

one real QB left in the draft

[red]

You're kidding right? In February Baker Mayfield was listed as a 2nd-3rd round selection...he has bust written all over him. I'm willing to bet Mayfield is out of the league in 3-4 years, just like Johnny football.

shows you can't pick much stock in mocks from february


Last season 47% of his passes were screen/bubble passes. I can complete 80% of those. Oklahoma threw more screen/bubble plays than anyone in the country.



that been proven to be complete crap over and over again lately

[red]

barkley goes to the giants #2

highest a RB has gone since bush in 2006

[red]

jets draft the latest overhyped USC QB

will he bust like the other dozen or so usc QBs who were the next greatest QB?

mark sanchez anyone?

darnold had one hell of a PR operation working for him this year

[red]

wow darnold is really mr personality

[red]

ward goes #4 to browns

could have a mini run on CBs before our pick

chubb still on the board

[gbgary]

if they're going to do something now's the time.

[gbgary]

looks like we're standing pat. tt's still in charge. lol

[red]

well, theres a lot of talent available right now

[esoxx]

Trade?!?!?! WTF!!!!

[red]

we just traded waaaaaay down with NO

[red]

we just dropped all the way back to 27

thats just fucking dumb

[red]

we better have picked up a second and a third at least for that move

that almost a move made by a guy scared to make his first pick

[red]

we got a fucking 5th round pick and the saints 1st next year

hate it

[esoxx]

Sick fucking joke

[red]

that definately doesn't help us win now

might as well trade a-rod for future picks too

[Deputy Nutz]

What fucking thread are we actually using?

[Tony Oday]

What's our 2nd and the Saints 1 worth on the chart?

[red]

What's our 2nd and the Saints 1 worth on the chart?

the pick we just traded away

#27 and our second is worth around 1130

the #14 pick was worth 1100

[red]

What fucking thread are we actually using?

i'm using the OFFICIAL DRAFT THREAD that i started 6 or 7 months ago

the other dickheads can do whatever the fuck they want to try and get their own glory by starting another thread

[Deputy Nutz]

This a vicious forum

[red]

our 3rd round pick can get us back up into this range now i think

going just off points, it could get us to #18

[red]

EDMUNDS IS ONLY 19 YEARS OLD??????????????????

[Deputy Nutz]

RED WAS RIGHT!!!

[mraynrand]

This a vicious forum

Just watch out for The Skinbasket and his dildo of death

[red]

so we ended up trading our 3rd for a 1st next year

thats a good deal

[Deputy Nutz]

Just watch out for The Skinbasket and his dildo of death

I have seen it. Surprisingly it is black.

[red]

I don’t like the trading right now, because we no longer have a 3rd round pick. The first rounder we got next year is nice, but it doesn’t help us at all this year

However, if we take some of those day 3 picks we have, and get back into the third, then the initial trade looks real good

[pbmax]

OK, name 'em all.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbu8ll_XUAMiRY8.jpg:large

[mraynrand]

I see the wolf family including Eliot. Dorsey next to them and Reggie Mac in the front. Former rb who is exec with Cleveland now. That’s all I got.

[pbmax]

Eliot? Don't see him.

Clockwise from left:
1. AA dude with striped shirt - no idea
2. AA dude with dark golf shirt - no idea
3. Taller AA dude behind 2, Alonzo Highsmith I think
4. White dude next to him, dark shirt, John Dorsey
5. Tallest white dude, way back, no idea maybe Jon Eric Sullivan?
6. Ron Wolf
7. Old white guy, Red Cochran?
8. AA man in way back, no idea
9. AA man next to possibly Red, no idea
10. Younger white guy, no idea
11. Older white guy, no idea
12. Brian Gutenkust
13. Reggie McKenzie
14. Andrew Brandt
15. White guy sitting down, my car mechanic
16. Younger white women, no idea
17. Older white women, no idea

[mraynrand]

Eliot? Don't see him.

Clockwise from left:
1. AA dude with striped shirt - no idea
2. AA dude with dark golf shirt - no idea
3. Taller AA dude behind 2, Alonzo Highsmith I think
4. White dude next to him, dark shirt, John Dorsey
5. Tallest white dude, way back, no idea maybe Jon Eric Sullivan?
6. Ron Wolf
7. Old white guy, Red Cochran?
8. AA man in way back, no idea
9. AA man next to possibly Red, no idea
10. Younger white guy, no idea
11. Older white guy, no idea
12. Brian Gutenkust
13. Reggie McKenzie
14. Andrew Brandt
15. White guy sitting down, my car mechanic
16. Younger white women, no idea
17. Older white women, no idea

That's Ron Wolf's family. So Eliot is the kid in the blue shirt.

[mraynrand]

as long as we're doing pictures...

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/host.madison.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/1/a9/1a9354a5-c80f-509a-9e35-c23829ca3e21/59c1945836dbc.image.jpg

[mraynrand]

I saw where they named a cul-de-sac after Mike Sherman...

[pbmax]

Pretty sure that kid in blue shirt is Andrew Brandt.

Eliot was born in 1982, he would be 20 in this picture, roughly. Then again, older white lady has her hands on his shoulders. Maybe, but doesn't look like Wolf the Younger to me.

[mraynrand]

Pretty sure that kid in blue shirt is Andrew Brandt.

Eliot was born in 1982, he would be 20 in this picture, roughly. Then again, older white lady has her hands on his shoulders. Maybe, but doesn't look like Wolf the Younger to me.

Yeah that's Brandt. Plus, I think Wolf's wife is not blonde. That's funny because it looks to me like mom has the family coordinated....

[gbgary]

I saw where they named a cul-de-sac after Mike Sherman...

"dead-end" would have been funnier. lol

[esoxx]

OK, name 'em all.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbu8ll_XUAMiRY8.jpg:large


1. AA dude with striped shirt - no idea - *Vai Sikahema
2. AA dude with dark golf shirt - no idea - *Vince Workman
3. Taller AA dude behind 2, Alonzo Highsmith I think - correct
4. White dude next to him, dark shirt, John Dorsey
5. Tallest white dude, way back, no idea maybe Jon Eric Sullivan?
6. Ron Wolf
7. Old white guy, Red Cochran?
8. AA man in way back, no idea
9. AA man next to possibly Red, no idea
10. Younger white guy, no idea
11. Older white guy, no idea - *Ken Herock - yes the guy who traded Favre to Packers from Atl. Tell me that wasn't an inside job.
12. Brian Gutenkust
13. Reggie McKenzie
14. Andrew Brandt
15. White guy sitting down, my car mechanic
16. Younger white women, no idea
17. Older white women, no idea

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Al Davis taught Wolf well. Wolf sure hired alota minorities for front office positions :tup:

Btw: Brandt looks like Peter North.

Btw2: I don't see Todd in that pic.

[Patler]

I think the guy in the back, between Dorsey and Wolf, is Mike Reinfeldt.

[pbmax]

I think the guy in the back, between Dorsey and Wolf, is Mike Reinfeldt.

He left for Seattle with Ted and Holmgren in 1998, no?

[gbgary]

so basically NO showed gute a shiny piece of glass and he took it. we had a no-brainer fall to us at 14, in james, and ended up with a guy we hope pans out. unless he's an every down starter this year, and is actually good, this pick didn't improve the D. he gets house's job next year by default.

[call_me_ishmael]

Why does everyone think James is a no brainer? He had a historically bad agility drills. It's not like he's Eric Berry or Sean Taylor coming out.

[Patler]

He left for Seattle with Ted and Holmgren in 1998, no?

Early 1999, along with Dorsey, I think.
Dorsey is in the pic, so Reinfeldt can be too.

[mraynrand]

Early 1999, along with Dorsey, I think.
Dorsey is in the pic, so Reinfeldt can be too.

Man, Patler returns and immediately unleashes the Patlerizer! :)

[pbmax]

Early 1999, along with Dorsey, I think.
Dorsey is in the pic, so Reinfeldt can be too.

I thought that too, but then, where is Ted?

[pbmax]

Man, Patler returns and immediately unleashes the Patlerizer! :)


Willing to take the limps to finish the puzzle.

[Patler]

I thought that too, but then, where is Ted?

On a scouting trip.....

[pbmax]

Herock: Packers 1997-2001, http://www.kenherock.com
Andrew Brandt 1999-2007 http://www.andrew-brandt.com/about-andrew/
John Dorsey 91-98, 2000-11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dorsey_(American_football)
Alonzo Highsmith Feb 1, 1999-2018
Mike Reinfeldt 1991-1998
-- hired in Seattle Jan 28, 1999 : http://nfl.packers.com/news/releases/1999/01/01-28.html

Ted Thompson was gone from 2000-2004 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson
-- I think this is wrong as he would have left when MH and Reinfeldt did so more likely 1999-2004

[Patler]

The guy behind Ken Herock is his son, Shaun, I'm fairly sure. The guy next to Shaun I believe is Sam Seale. The mustachioed white guy in the front I am fairly certain is Danny Mock.

[pbmax]

Maybe Teddy left a year later, his packers.com bio lists 2000-2004 as well

http://www.packers.com/team/staff/ted-thompson/7d1caee3-e8f2-4e20-b304-98064f608dbb

[pbmax]

Has to be before Jan 28 1999 as Reinfeldt did not return.

Highsmith and Brandt hired in 99 as well.

[Patler]

FYI - I am fairly certain the identification of Red Cochran is correct. Hard to believe the guy was an assistant coach for most, if not all of Lombardi's years in GB and was still there as a scout for all of Wolf's years in GB. I think he only left for the few seasons that Phil Bengtson was HC.

[esoxx]

I thought that too, but then, where is Ted?

In the closet?

Sorry, too easy.

[KYPack]

FYI - I am fairly certain the identification of Red Cochran is correct. Hard to believe the guy was an assistant coach for most, if not all of Lombardi's years in GB and was still there as a scout for all of Wolf's years in GB. I think he only left for the few seasons that Phil Bengtson was HC.

The legendary Red Cochran story is the draft where Red pulled Bart Starr aside and told him the best guy on the board was Joe Montana and we had to draft him. When Starr failed to get Joe, Red yelled and threw his clipboard across the room, hitting the wall. Starr just looked down and didn't say a word.

[Deputy Nutz]

Bart Starr was a hell of a player but simply the worst GM and coach you could have gotten. Forrest wasn't any better. They could play for Vince but they couldn't run shit like Vince

[Deputy Nutz]

Rhondi Barber gets no laughs

[Joemailman]

The legendary Red Cochran story is the draft where Red pulled Bart Starr aside and told him the best guy on the board was Joe Montana and we had to draft him. When Starr failed to get Joe, Red yelled and threw his clipboard across the room, hitting the wall. Starr just looked down and didn't say a word.

Okay, you made me look it up. Packers took NT Charles Johnson with the 71st pick of the 1979 draft. 49ers took Montana with the 82nd pick.

Montana was the 4th QB drafted that year. He was preceded by Jack Thompson, Phil Simms and Steve Fuller.

[gbgary]

hoping at least three of these guys begin the season as starters. if that happens it means the product on the field has improved. if most stick that means depth has improved too. the db and wr rooms are sure gonna look different this year.

[woodbuck27]

The legendary Red Cochran story is the draft where Red pulled Bart Starr aside and told him the best guy on the board was Joe Montana and we had to draft him. When Starr failed to get Joe, Red yelled and threw his clipboard across the room, hitting the wall. Starr just looked down and didn't say a word.

KY your story is telling.

Maybe it's just that (simple) and why in the end the Packers just fail to nail their Draft picks.

BIG EGO's will too often prevail and cause FRUSTRATIONS..


https://cdn.xl.thumbs.canstockphoto.com/angry-businessman-throwing-crumpled-paper-on-camera-angry-businessman-sitting-at-the-table-and-picture_csp28283271.jpg

[woodbuck27]

hoping at least three of these guys begin the season as starters. if that happens it means the product on the field has improved. if most stick that means depth has improved too. the db and wr rooms are sure gonna look different this year.

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/contentmarketingshowdeck2013-6-11-2013-131107105250-phpapp02/95/throwing-shit-against-the-wall-analysing-what-sticks-content-marketing-show-november-2013-1-638.jpg?cb=1384631815

[call_me_ishmael]

So what did everyone think of Goot Goot's first draft? What's the vibe?

[Deputy Nutz]

It was a weird draft.

[Bretsky]

So what did everyone think of Goot Goot's first draft? What's the vibe?


B-

Decent job

Now if past 6 years we have taken one OLB in rounds 1-3. In today's NFL that is crazy...and the one we got sucks


He has to mitigate Ted's f'cked up draft in 2015 when we pissed away rounds one and two taking CB's and most likely did a good job with that.

It's shocking to me that we drafted 3WR's and one Edge Rusher. Hopefully two of the 3 WR's turn out.

He's no Eliott Wolf but I think he did a decent job

Time will tell

[SMBASS]

I give the draft a C just like I do with every draft immediately after it's over. As in let's wait to see what these kids can do once they actually step on the field. All of these pre-draft prognostications and grades are a frickin' joke because the vast majority of them end up being wrong. Being a draft guru is like being a meteorologist or economist...you can be wrong 90% of the time and still be considered an, "expert".

[wist43]

I agree that it was a weird, weird draft...

Exactly zero pass rush help??

Drafting the worst ILB player/best ILB athlete ever, lol... WTF?? I hope they can coach Burks up and make a player out of him, but from what he did in college he needs to be looking for a job in insurance. Terrible player, just terrible.

This looks like a TT draft with a little more competence... I'm not encouraged about our future now.

Very disappointed in this draft.

C-

[Zool]

Wasn’t everyone super pissed when Thompson drafted 3 rbs last year? How’d that work out?

[Bretsky]

Wasn’t everyone super pissed when Thompson drafted 3 rbs last year? How’d that work out?


Are you saying Gootie did a great job with the three WR picks ? Or just using a past example to make a backhanded point.

IF you are take a look at our 15 draft and how'd that work ? And fwiw I'm NOT saying Gootie made a bad call and it will turn out like the 2015 draft did..

[Zool]

Are you saying Gootie did a great job with the three WR picks ? Or just using a past example to make a backhanded point.

IF you are take a look at our 15 draft and how'd that work ? And fwiw I'm NOT saying Gootie made a bad call and it will turn out like the 2015 draft did..

People are unhappy about the WR situation on the roster AND pissed that the GM drafted 3 WRs. I just don’t understand why all the teeth gnashing over the draft. You won’t have any idea if it was a good or bad draft until sometime in 2021.

[Bretsky]

People are unhappy about the WR situation on the roster AND pissed that the GM drafted 3 WRs. I just don’t understand why all the teeth gnashing over the draft. You won’t have any idea if it was a good or bad draft until sometime in 2021.

But if we couldn't bitch and argue about the draft what in the world would we post about in here ? lol

I'm not upset about 3 WR's. Truth be told it seems many had our 3rd WR rated as well or higher than the other two. So assuming he was a value pick and they snatched him because he was rated way higher than everybody else.

I'm fine with 3 Wr's. But disappointed at the lack of pass rush.

That may bit us in the ass again

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pro Football Focus has the Pack with an "elite" draft.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-all-32-nfl-teams-2018-nfl-draft-grades

[Cheesehead Craig]

NFL.com has them with an overall "A"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000930225/article/2018-nfl-draft-final-quicksnap-grades-for-all-32-teams%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Dsnap-grades%253Bteam%253Dmia%253Bteam%253Dcin%253Bteam% 253Dbuf%253Bteam%253Dbal%253Bteam%253Dclv%253Bconf %253Dafc%253Bdvsn%253Dace%253Bdvsn%253Dacn%253Bply r%253Dcordy_glenn%253Bplyr%253Dhenry_anderson%253B plyr%253Dfranklin_gore&p.ct=Snap+Grades&p.adsm=true&p.tcm=%2523000&p.bgc1m=%2523EAEAEA&sr=amp

[Cheesehead Craig]

SI.cm with an "A"

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/04/28/nfl-draft-2018-team-grades-picks-analysis

[gbgary]

So what did everyone think of Goot Goot's first draft? What's the vibe?

i was stunned they passed on derwin james but after it's all said and done...i give them an A too. lol.....https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/images/smilies/hide.gif

[woodbuck27]

Wes Hodkiewicz
✔
@WesHod
Jaire Alexander: "I didn’t have any contact with the #Packers. This caught me by surprise."

10:40 PM - Apr 26, 2018

The above refutes any claim that the Green Bay Packers had several contacts with CB Jaire Alexander, prior to the Draft.

That aside:

Overall it appears that Brian Gutekunst's moves NO. 14 >>> NO. 27 and back up to NO. 18 and a loss of NO. 76 and gaining a First Round Pick in 2019 in Round One finds favor with NFL Analysts and Beat Writers and Packer fans:

https://lombardiave.com/2018/04/26/packers-2018-draft-twitter-reacts-jaire-alexander/

[HarveyWallbangers]

Pro Football Focus has the Pack with an "elite" draft.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-all-32-nfl-teams-2018-nfl-draft-grades

Every other team in our division received a "Below Average" grade from them. Man, I hope they are right.

[pbmax]

Are you saying Gootie did a great job with the three WR picks ? Or just using a past example to make a backhanded point.

IF you are take a look at our 15 draft and how'd that work ? And fwiw I'm NOT saying Gootie made a bad call and it will turn out like the 2015 draft did..

They needed a WR influx. Allison (even if sung by Elvis Costello) is no sure thing and there is a lot of nothing behind him.

Would I have asked for a WR only draft with no pass rush? Nope. But I prefer 3 WR who can play and no busts high with pass rush.

Someone wrote a question elsewhere, 3 vertical WR, how will they work in McCarthy's offense. Has anyone been watching this offense since Driver stopped starting? Its all vertical routes. This year it'll be vertical routes with a TE and two backs who can catch it.

[pbmax]

Wes Hodkiewicz
✔
@WesHod
Jaire Alexander: "I didn’t have any contact with the #Packers. This caught me by surprise."

10:40 PM - Apr 26, 2018

The above refutes any claim that the Green Bay Packers had several contacts with CB Jaire Alexander, prior to the Draft.

That aside:

Overall it appears that Brian Gutekunst's moves NO. 14 >>> NO. 27 and back up to NO. 18 and a loss of NO. 76 and gaining a First Round Pick in 2019 in Round One finds favor with NFL Analysts and Beat Writers and Packer fans:

https://lombardiave.com/2018/04/26/packers-2018-draft-twitter-reacts-jaire-alexander/

First Alexander
Packer Report @PackerReport
Alexander says he had no contact with Packers predraft.
9:40 PM CDT - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/PackerReport/status/989695761196740608

The Gutekunst
Packer Report @PackerReport
Gutekunst said the Packers did talk to Alexander on several occasions. Figures they all blurred together for Alexander, who said he hadn't talked to GB.
10:44 PM CDT - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/PackerReport/status/989711888316620800

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers @packers
Jersey # for the 2018 #PackersDraft picks ��

23 - @JaireAlexander
37 - @Joshrando3
42 - @BangTimeBurks
82 - @jmon_moore
61 - Cole Madison
8 - JK Scott
83 - @MVS__11
19 - @Equanimeous
99 - @looneytunes561
43 - @HunterB_53
91 - @donnerson81

#GoPackGo


I can't believe they still hand out Mark Brunell's jersey in camp. Or was 8 Hasselback?

[mraynrand]

I can't believe they still hand out Mark Brunell's jersey in camp. Or was 8 Hasselback?

yes

[pbmax]

Now I want to go back and draft the kid:

Davenport: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2764898-whats-wrong-with-nfl-draft-prospect-marcus-davenport-is-the-wrong-question

[Maxie the Taxi]

Now I want to go back and draft the kid:

Davenport: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2764898-whats-wrong-with-nfl-draft-prospect-marcus-davenport-is-the-wrong-questionNah. He's gonna tank. Bank on it.

[woodbuck27]

First Alexander
Packer Report @PackerReport
Alexander says he had no contact with Packers predraft.
9:40 PM CDT - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/PackerReport/status/989695761196740608

The Gutekunst
Packer Report @PackerReport
Gutekunst said the Packers did talk to Alexander on several occasions. Figures they all blurred together for Alexander, who said he hadn't talked to GB.
10:44 PM CDT - 26 Apr 2018
https://twitter.com/PackerReport/status/989711888316620800

I had that story and was following up on it.

I simply find this contradiction somewhat amazing.

[woodbuck27]

They needed a WR influx. Allison (even if sung by Elvis Costello) is no sure thing and there is a lot of nothing behind him.

Would I have asked for a WR only draft with no pass rush? Nope. But I prefer 3 WR who can play and no busts high with pass rush.

Someone wrote a question elsewhere, 3 vertical WR, how will they work in McCarthy's offense. Has anyone been watching this offense since Driver stopped starting? Its all vertical routes. This year it'll be vertical routes with a TE and two backs who can catch it.

pbmax:

I'm not sure if the Packers expert on WR' Draft Picks had that WR in Round Two influence this Year and the Draft.

The Packers go first in this DRAFT to a WR here Round 4 ‧ Pick 33 (133 Overall) and WR - J'MON MOORE - GRADE MISSOURI - GRADE = 5.56.

Pick Analysis

Round 4 • Pick 33 (133)

" ... The Pack needed to inject some speed into their WR corp and Moore fits the bill. Forget his timed speed, Moore should be able to stretch the field for that offense. ... " --Mark Dulgerian

Overview

" ... Moore followed up a strong junior campaign with an equally impressive senior season. While Missouri's offensive scheme made things easy on him and allowed him to rely on his athletic ability to succeed, he has the size, speed and talent to be able to succeed beyond what was asked of him in college. Moore is still raw and will need time to expand his knowledge and feel for the position, but he has the talent to become a WR3 or WR2 within the first two or three years. ..."

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks?pick=33&round=4

pbmax: Look at this Photo and what do you see if anything and PLEASE keep that if you even see anything to yourself (I ask that respectfully, of all others that see this Post)

https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/gazettextra.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/7/8d/78de5613-907d-5bed-802d-feccf25ccfb0/5ae29ee0dc777.image.jpg

In the foreground of this Photo of the Packer Wr Room and the 2018 NFL Draft you'll see, L > R ... Packer GM Brian Gutekunst, Packer Head Coach Mike McCarthy and CEO and Packers President Mark Murphy ( inside of the Draft Room at Lambeau Field, Green Bay, Wisconsin on Thursday, 26 April, 2018.standing ).... Photo compliments of Evan Siegle/Green Bay Packers Via AP.

[mraynrand]

Ted’s grade value is now 4.57

[red]

TT still has that stupid fucking look on his face

[woodbuck27]

Ted’s grade value is now 4.57

Well, well, a story of four holes.

A 'real grabber', pathetic Soul.

Ear holes, nostrils and more;

That foul dark mind, babbling sick mouth

Still one other, a little further south.

A decent upbringing, recognizes an asshole.

[mraynrand]

A decent upbringing, recognizes an asshole.

you're anal fixation is strange

[Zool]

you're anal fixation is strange

You spelled hot wrong.

[pbmax]

NFL Draft Scout gave the Packers an A, but this was a nice hint about why they were willing to drop from 14 to 18:


It is worth noting that in moving down the Packers passed up on the opportunity to nab Virginia Tech's Tremaine Edmunds, selected by Buffalo, Boise State's Leighton Vander Esch (Dallas) and Florida State's Derwin James (L.A. Chargers), each of whom the club heavily scouted and may wind up producing more of an obvious immediate impact for their respective NFL teams

https://www.themaven.net/nfldraftscout/news/rang-grading-the-nfc-ns8alu5hMEGh5f85MnoGkg/?full=1

Bears = B-
Lions = C+
Vikings = B

[woodbuck27]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2018/04/29/starting-browns-baker-mayfield-most-intriguing-story-lines-out-nfl-draft/563139002/

Starting with Browns' Baker Mayfield, most intriguing story lines out of the NFL draft

By: Mike Jones, USA TODAY Sports Published 11:32 p.m. ET April 29, 2018 | Updated 4:04 a.m. ET April 30, 2018

[mraynrand]

NFL Draft Scout gave the Packers an A, but this was a nice hint about why they were willing to drop from 14 to 18:



https://www.themaven.net/nfldraftscout/news/rang-grading-the-nfc-ns8alu5hMEGh5f85MnoGkg/?full=1

Bears = B-
Lions = C+
Vikings = B

I found this quote interesting, because I think it's how other people look at the Packers.


That said, given that Green Bay's opponents often have no choice but to try to pass the ball aggressively in an effort to keep up with Aaron Rodgers and the Packers' explosive offense, reinforcing the secondary was a must.

This board generally sees the offense as a bunch of low grade schlubs made great by Rodgers.

[gbgary]

This board generally sees the offense as a bunch of low grade schlubs made great by Rodgers.

i don't get that impression. it's the D, the secondary generally, that's taken the brunt of the board's disdain...oh...and capers.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000930392/article/2018-nfl-draft-5-perfect-landings-3-headscratching-decisions

2018 NFL Draft: 5 perfect landings; 3 head-scratching decisions

By Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks NFL.com

P2) Derwin James, S, Chargers (No. 17 overall):

I can't think of a better player/scheme fit than this one. I've referred to James as a faster version of Kam Chancellor. I've also compared him to Keanu Neal. Both players have thrived in the Pete Carroll/Gus Bradley/Dan Quinn defensive system. James will plug in right away and deliver impact plays for the Chargers' defense under Bradley.

Read also:

SAQUON BARKLEY MAKES GIANTS A CONTENDER




published: April 30, 2018 at 12:22 p.m. Updated: April 30, 2018 at 06:20 p.m.

[hoosier]

Saquon Barkley making the Giants a contender is hysterical. When is the last time you saw a RB turn a bad team into a good one? I suppose you could argue that Zeke Elliot had a role in turning Dallas around in 2016, but if the Giants contend in 2018 it will be because the defense remedied what was ailing it last year and because Eli rose from the dead. RBs are complementary pieces in today's NFL, not straws that stir drinks.

[mraynrand]

Saquon Barkley making the Giants a contender is hysterical. When is the last time you saw a RB turn a bad team into a good one? I suppose you could argue that Zeke Elliot had a role in turning Dallas around in 2016, but if the Giants contend in 2018 it will be because the defense remedied what was ailing it last year and because Eli rose from the dead. RBs are complementary pieces in today's NFL, not straws that stir drinks.

I tend to agree, but some crazy analytics guy was on the radio here the other day talking about how the new helmet rules were going to make running backs even more effective. Also, the focus on stopping the passing game with nickel as base opens up more running plays for teams that scheme for it. So while I think that say the average team, with an average passing offense and an average QB might not be able to exploit these things, perhaps a good QB with good WRs and O-line, with a generational running back like Charles Barkley may be more effective... stay tuned....

[Zool]

https://ryver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Barkley-Turrible.jpeg

[pbmax]

Nothing about this article makes me happy. McCarthy's involvement in the draft, targeting one measurable trait (speed last year, size this year). I am not even sure the article accurately coveys the point of the last two drafts.

I think there was a definite plan to get bigger, faster athletes on defense last year, but only one pick was a surefire size/speed bet. King was at his spot only because of injury concerns. Jones was the real size/speed/tweener target.

This year it was definitely taller WRs (though its not that uncommon for the Packers-Janis/Allison/Nelson/Jones) but not sure the other picks were because of height. The best or second best punter was 6' 5", did they only draft him to be tall?

Jackson was a value pick who the Packers believe is faster than the timed 40 at the combine.

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/05/05/packers-notes-size-speed-draft/583601002/

[mraynrand]

It started in the second round, when the Packers selected 6-foot, 3/8-inch cornerback Josh Jackson despite suspect speed. Oren Burks, the third-round inside linebacker from Vanderbilt, also has good height for his position at 6-3 1/8.

This isn't convincing at all

[hoosier]

Had to get the dig in at TT too.


I have great respect for the program and Barry Alvarez and Paul (Chryst) and the whole bunch down there," McCarthy said. "I’m glad they’re here. Because I know for a long time (former Packers general manager) Ted (Thompson) was scared to death to bring one into the building. It’s great to have some Badgers in our program.

[Smidgeon]

Had to get the dig in at TT too.

Couldn't help himself, could he? Way to be classy.

[mraynrand]

Couldn't help himself, could he? Way to be classy.

I think you may be leaping to a conclusion that isn’t warranted. Stubby’s comment needed a follow up question.

My first thought was that TT didn’t want the headache that goes with having to cut a hometown favorite. I could be projecting.

Maybe it’s a shot at TT. Reporter should have asked.

[hoosier]

I think you may be leaping to a conclusion that isn’t warranted. Stubby’s comment needed a follow up question.

My first thought was that TT didn’t want the headache that goes with having to cut a hometown favorite. I could be projecting.

Maybe it’s a shot at TT. Reporter should have asked.

Meh. He said what he said. Ask him a follow up question and he probably opts to walk it back. If it was a dig I doubt that any amount of questioning would get him to say it more explicitly. And even if it wasn't meant as a dig, I guess I don't put too much stock in what we think McCarthy thinks he meant. The hatred is there, written on Coach's forehead, even if McCarthy doesn't see it.

[mraynrand]

Hatred? Really think so? Why? (These are follow up questions about a POV that seems very extreme. I could be a reporter)

[hoosier]

Hatred, you know, in contemporary parlance. Haters gonna hate, that kind of hatred. Not rip off your head and shit down your neck hatred, just glad you're gone hatred.

[mraynrand]

Hatred, you know, in contemporary parlance. Haters gonna hate, that kind of hatred. Not rip off your head and shit down your neck hatred, just glad you're gone hatred.


Shake it off

[Rutnstrut]

I'm going to call it here. The Packers will regret letting go experienced receivers. They will experience significant injuries as usual, Adams is largely unproven, and all the receiver draft picks will be injuries or flops. Special teams will also get worse without gunner extraordinaire Jeff janis.

[Joemailman]

I'm going to call it here. The Packers will regret letting go experienced receivers. They will experience significant injuries as usual, Adams is largely unproven, and all the receiver draft picks will be ]injuries or flops. Special teams will also get worse without gunner extraordinaire Jeff janis.

We'll see. Before Jeff Janis there was Jarrett Bush.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'm not worried about injuries. We'll just get a guy who had a higher nfl.com draft grade than the person we had. Then we'll be all set!

[Bretsky]

I'm going to call it here. The Packers will regret letting go experienced receivers. They will experience significant injuries as usual, Adams is largely unproven, and all the receiver draft picks will be injuries or flops. Special teams will also get worse without gunner extraordinaire Jeff janis.


are you calling Janis an experienced WR ? He was Atrocious

[mraynrand]

are you calling Janis an experienced WR ? He was Atrocious


Stubby, who is a terrible coach, totally misused Janis, who will now be All-pro in Cleveland.

[Zool]

If anyone can make Janice an All-Pro it's Huge Jackson. He's proven that at every stop in the NFL.

[mraynrand]

Pittsburgh refuses to surround Ben with the players he needs to win:


"I was surprised when they took a quarterback because I thought that maybe in the third round, you know you can get some really good football players that can help this team now. Nothing against Mason; I think he's a great football player. I don't know him personally, but I'm sure he's a great kid. I just don't know how backing up or being a third [string] — well, who knows where he's going to fall on the depth chart — helps us win now. But, you know, that's not my decision to make. That's on the coaches and the GM and the owner and those kind of things. If they think he can help our team, so be it, but I was a little surprised.

[run pMc]

I'm going to call it here. The Packers will regret letting go experienced receivers. They will experience significant injuries as usual, Adams is largely unproven, and all the receiver draft picks will be injuries or flops. Special teams will also get worse without gunner extraordinaire Jeff janis.

Which experienced receivers -- Jordy and Janis? They'll miss Jordy's knowledge and chemistry w/ Rodgers, but he struggled to separate from CBs. As for Janis, the rookie class will have to play STs to make the team, they have enough size/speed to do that.
Graham should replace Jordy's production, a rookie will replace Janis.

Not sure how you figure Adams is unproven. He was the best receiver last year. I agree they lost experience, but that happens to all teams, and given Cobb, Allison, Davis and Yancey have all had at least a year they should be ok. It might happen, but assuming all the rookies will flop or get injured is a pessimistic take.

[The Shadow]

Rodgers makes all receivers look better.

[pbmax]

I'm going to call it here. snip Adams is largely unproven

Does it ever worry you that to make your point, you need to enter an alternate reality?




Game Rece
Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
1 Antonio Brown 2015 2017 6-195 PIT NFL 45 45 510 343 4651 13.56 31 103.4 67.3% 9.12
2 Larry Fitzgerald 2015 2017 1-3 CRD NFL 48 48 456 325 3394 10.44 21 70.7 71.3% 7.44
3 Jarvis Landry 2015 2017 2-63 MIA NFL 48 46 458 316 3280 10.38 17 68.3 69.0% 7.16
4 Julio Jones 2015 2017 1-6 ATL NFL 46 46 480 307 4724 15.39 17 102.7 64.0% 9.84
5 DeAndre Hopkins 2015 2017 1-27 HTX NFL 47 47 517 285 3853 13.52 28 82.0 55.1% 7.45
6 Demaryius Thomas 2015 2017 1-22 DEN NFL 48 48 461 278 3336 12.00 16 69.5 60.3% 7.24
7 Golden Tate 2015 2017 2-60 DET NFL 48 44 383 273 2893 10.60 15 60.3 71.3% 7.55
8 Doug Baldwin 2015 2017 SEA NFL 48 47 344 247 3188 12.91 29 66.4 71.8% 9.27
9 Mike Evans 2015 2017 1-7 TAM NFL 46 45 457 241 3528 14.64 20 76.7 52.7% 7.72
10 Michael Crabtree 2015 2017 1-10 RAI NFL 46 45 392 232 2543 10.96 25 55.3 59.2% 6.49
11 Brandin Cooks 2015 2017 1-20 TOT NFL 48 40 360 227 3393 14.95 24 70.7 63.1% 9.43
12 A.J. Green 2015 2017 1-4 CIN NFL 42 42 375 227 3339 14.71 22 79.5 60.5% 8.90
13 Odell Beckham 2015 2017 1-12 NYG NFL 35 33 368 222 3119 14.05 26 89.1 60.3% 8.48
14 T.Y. Hilton 2015 2017 3-92 CLT NFL 48 47 398 217 3538 16.30 15 73.7 54.5% 8.89
15 Randall Cobb 2015 2017 2-64 GNB NFL 44 39 305 205 2092 10.20 14 47.5 67.2% 6.86
16 Amari Cooper 2015 2017 1-4 RAI NFL 46 41 358 203 2903 14.30 18 63.1 56.7% 8.11
17 Emmanuel Sanders 2015 2017 3-82 DEN NFL 43 42 365 202 2722 13.48 13 63.3 55.3% 7.46
18 Stefon Diggs 2015 2017 5-146 MIN NFL 40 34 291 200 2472 12.36 15 61.8 68.7% 8.49
19 Davante Adams 2015 2017 2-53 GNB NFL 43 41 332 199 2365 11.88 23 55.0 59.9% 7.12
20 Michael Thomas 2016 2017 2-47 NOR NFL 31 26 270 196 2382 12.15 14 76.8 72.6% 8.82
21 Jamison Crowder 2015 2017 4-105 WAS NFL 47 21 280 192 2240 11.67 12 47.7 68.6% 8.00
22 Pierre Garcon 2015 2017 6-205 TOT NFL 40 40 292 191 2318 12.14 9 58.0 65.4% 7.94
23 Brandon Marshall 2015 2017 4-119 TOT NFL 36 36 334 186 2444 13.14 17 67.9 55.7% 7.32
24 Jordan Matthews 2015 2017 2-42 TOT NFL 40 33 279 183 2083 11.38 12 52.1 65.6% 7.47
25 Marvin Jones 2015 2017 5-166 TOT NFL 47 44 313 181 2847 15.73 17 60.6 57.8% 9.10
26 Jordan Reed 2015 2017 3-85 WAS NFL 32 22 238 180 1849 10.27 19 57.8 75.6% 7.77
27 Keenan Allen 2015 2017 3-76 SDG NFL 25 24 255 175 2181 12.46 10 87.2 68.6% 8.55
28 Adam Thielen 2015 2017 MIN NFL 48 28 252 172 2387 13.88 9 49.7 68.3% 9.47
29 Jeremy Maclin 2015 2017 1-19 TOT NFL 39 39 272 171 2064 12.07 13 52.9 62.9% 7.59
30 Cole Beasley 2015 2017 DAL NFL 47 13 236 163 1683 10.33 14 35.8 69.1% 7.13
31 Alshon Jeffery 2015 2017 2-45 TOT NFL 37 36 308 163 2417 14.83 15 65.3 52.9% 7.85
32 Mike Wallace 2015 2017 3-84 TOT NFL 47 42 280 163 2238 13.73 10 47.6 58.2% 7.99
33 Rishard Matthews 2015 2017 7-227 TOT NFL 41 32 256 161 2402 14.92 17 58.6 62.9% 9.38
34 Julian Edelman 2015 2016 7-232 NWE NFL 25 22 247 159 1798 11.31 10 71.9 64.4% 7.28
35 Mohamed Sanu 2015 2017 3-83 TOT NFL 46 34 226 159 1750 11.01 9 38.0 70.4% 7.74
36 Jermaine Kearse 2015 2017 TOT NFL 48 45 259 155 2005 12.94 11 41.8 59.8% 7.74
37 Allen Robinson 2015 2017 2-61 JAX NFL 33 33 303 154 2300 14.94 20 69.7 50.8% 7.59
38 Robert Woods 2015 2017 2-41 TOT NFL 39 30 241 154 1946 12.64 9 49.9 63.9% 8.07
39 Brandon LaFell 2015 2017 3-78 TOT NFL 43 36 270 153 1925 12.58 9 44.8 56.7% 7.13
40 Ted Ginn 2015 2017 1-9 TOT NFL 46 31 262 151 2278 15.09 18 49.5 57.6% 8.69
41 Dez Bryant 2015 2017 1-24 DAL NFL 38 38 300 150 2035 13.57 17 53.6 50.0% 6.78
42 Jordy Nelson 2016 2017 2-36 GNB NFL 31 31 240 150 1739 11.59 20 56.1 62.5% 7.25
43 Danny Amendola 2015 2017 NWE NFL 41 19 202 149 1550 10.40 9 37.8 73.8% 7.67
44 Travis Benjamin 2015 2017 4-100 TOT NFL 46 26 262 149 2210 14.83 13 48.0 56.9% 8.44
45 Willie Snead 2015 2017 NOR NFL 41 20 221 149 1971 13.23 7 48.1 67.4% 8.92
46 Terrance Williams 2015 2017 3-74 DAL NFL 48 42 232 149 2002 13.44 7 41.7 64.2% 8.63
47 Eric Decker 2015 2017 3-87 TOT NFL 34 24 236 143 1784 12.48 15 52.5 60.6% 7.56
48 Adam Humphries 2015 2017 TAM NFL 44 7 206 143 1513 10.58 4 34.4 69.4% 7.34
49 DeVante Parker 2015 2017 1-14 MIA NFL 43 24 233 139 1908 13.73 8 44.4 59.7% 8.19
50 Allen Hurns 2015 2017 JAX NFL 36 34 237 138 1992 14.43 15 55.3 58.2% 8.41
51 Tyler Lockett 2015 2017 3-69 SEA NFL 47 25 206 137 1816 13.26 9 38.6 66.5% 8.82
52 Anquan Boldin 2015 2016 2-54 TOT NFL 30 29 206 136 1373 10.10 12 45.8 66.0% 6.67
53 Tyreek Hill 2016 2017 5-165 KAN NFL 31 14 188 136 1776 13.06 13 57.3 72.3% 9.45
54 DeSean Jackson 2015 2017 2-49 TOT NFL 39 37 239 136 2201 16.18 11 56.4 56.9% 9.21
55 Marqise Lee 2015 2017 2-39 JAX NFL 40 21 233 134 1744 13.01 7 43.6 57.5% 7.48
56 Kenny Stills 2015 2017 5-144 MIA NFL 48 40 249 127 2013 15.85 18 41.9 51.0% 8.08
57 Sammy Watkins 2015 2017 1-4 TOT NFL 36 35 218 127 2070 16.30 19 57.5 58.3% 9.50
58 Coby Fleener 2015 2017 2-34 TOT NFL 43 19 195 126 1417 11.25 8 33.0 64.6% 7.27
59 John Brown 2015 2017 3-91 CRD NFL 40 22 229 125 1819 14.55 12 45.5 54.6% 7.94
60 Vernon Davis 2015 2017 1-6 TOT NFL 47 39 186 125 1626 13.01 5 34.6 67.2% 8.74
61 Kenny Britt 2015 2017 1-30 TOT NFL 43 33 226 124 1939 15.64 10 45.1 54.9% 8.58
62 Sterling Shepard 2016 2017 2-40 NYG NFL 27 26 189 124 1414 11.40 10 52.4 65.6% 7.48
63 Kendall Wright 2015 2017 1-20 TOT NFL 37 17 193 124 1438 11.60 7 38.9 64.2% 7.45
64 Nelson Agholor 2015 2017 1-20 PHI NFL 44 36 208 121 1416 11.70 11 32.2 58.2% 6.81
65 Donte Moncrief 2015 2017 3-90 CLT NFL 37 25 208 120 1431 11.93 15 38.7 57.7% 6.88
66 Kamar Aiken 2015 2017 TOT NFL 47 27 221 119 1405 11.81 6 29.9 53.8% 6.36
67 Dontrelle Inman 2015 2017 TOT NFL 42 30 204 118 1639 13.89 8 39.0 57.8% 8.03
68 Devin Funchess 2015 2017 2-41 CAR NFL 47 28 232 117 1684 14.39 17 35.8 50.4% 7.26
69 Steve Smith 2015 2016 3-74 RAV NFL 21 21 174 116 1469 12.66 8 70.0 66.7% 8.44
70 Tyrell Williams 2015 2017 SDG NFL 36 27 193 114 1877 16.46 12 52.1 59.1% 9.73
71 Seth Roberts 2015 2017 RAI NFL 47 18 197 113 1332 11.79 11 28.3 57.4% 6.76
72 Kelvin Benjamin 2016 2017 1-28 TOT NFL 30 27 196 111 1633 14.71 10 54.4 56.6% 8.33
73 Chris Hogan 2015 2017 TOT NFL 40 25 176 108 1569 14.53 11 39.2 61.4% 8.91
74 Albert Wilson 2015 2017 KAN NFL 43 24 170 108 1284 11.89 7 29.9 63.5% 7.55
75 Robby Anderson 2016 2017 NYJ NFL 32 23 192 105 1528 14.55 9 47.8 54.7% 7.96
76 Martavis Bryant 2015 2017 4-118 PIT NFL 26 13 176 100 1368 13.68 9 52.6 56.8% 7.77
77 Michael Floyd 2015 2017 1-13 TOT NFL 41 15 182 99 1415 14.29 11 34.5 54.4% 7.77
78 Terrelle Pryor 2015 2017 3-1 TOT NFL 28 19 185 98 1289 13.15 5 46.0 53.0% 6.97
79 Torrey Smith 2015 2017 2-58 TOT NFL 44 38 178 89 1360 15.28 9 30.9 50.0% 7.64
80 Calvin Johnson 2015 2015 1-2 DET NFL 16 16 149 88 1214 13.80 9 75.9 59.1% 8.15
81 Marquise Goodwin 2015 2017 3-78 TOT NFL 33 25 175 87 1417 16.29 5 42.9 49.7% 8.10
82 JJ Nelson 2015 2017 5-159 CRD NFL 42 13 162 74 1375 18.58 10 32.7 45.7% 8.49

[Rutnstrut]

Does it ever worry you that to make your point, you need to enter an alternate reality?




Game Rece
Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
1 Antonio Brown 2015 2017 6-195 PIT NFL 45 45 510 343 4651 13.56 31 103.4 67.3% 9.12
2 Larry Fitzgerald 2015 2017 1-3 CRD NFL 48 48 456 325 3394 10.44 21 70.7 71.3% 7.44
3 Jarvis Landry 2015 2017 2-63 MIA NFL 48 46 458 316 3280 10.38 17 68.3 69.0% 7.16
4 Julio Jones 2015 2017 1-6 ATL NFL 46 46 480 307 4724 15.39 17 102.7 64.0% 9.84
5 DeAndre Hopkins 2015 2017 1-27 HTX NFL 47 47 517 285 3853 13.52 28 82.0 55.1% 7.45
6 Demaryius Thomas 2015 2017 1-22 DEN NFL 48 48 461 278 3336 12.00 16 69.5 60.3% 7.24
7 Golden Tate 2015 2017 2-60 DET NFL 48 44 383 273 2893 10.60 15 60.3 71.3% 7.55
8 Doug Baldwin 2015 2017 SEA NFL 48 47 344 247 3188 12.91 29 66.4 71.8% 9.27
9 Mike Evans 2015 2017 1-7 TAM NFL 46 45 457 241 3528 14.64 20 76.7 52.7% 7.72
10 Michael Crabtree 2015 2017 1-10 RAI NFL 46 45 392 232 2543 10.96 25 55.3 59.2% 6.49
11 Brandin Cooks 2015 2017 1-20 TOT NFL 48 40 360 227 3393 14.95 24 70.7 63.1% 9.43
12 A.J. Green 2015 2017 1-4 CIN NFL 42 42 375 227 3339 14.71 22 79.5 60.5% 8.90
13 Odell Beckham 2015 2017 1-12 NYG NFL 35 33 368 222 3119 14.05 26 89.1 60.3% 8.48
14 T.Y. Hilton 2015 2017 3-92 CLT NFL 48 47 398 217 3538 16.30 15 73.7 54.5% 8.89
15 Randall Cobb 2015 2017 2-64 GNB NFL 44 39 305 205 2092 10.20 14 47.5 67.2% 6.86
16 Amari Cooper 2015 2017 1-4 RAI NFL 46 41 358 203 2903 14.30 18 63.1 56.7% 8.11
17 Emmanuel Sanders 2015 2017 3-82 DEN NFL 43 42 365 202 2722 13.48 13 63.3 55.3% 7.46
18 Stefon Diggs 2015 2017 5-146 MIN NFL 40 34 291 200 2472 12.36 15 61.8 68.7% 8.49
19 Davante Adams 2015 2017 2-53 GNB NFL 43 41 332 199 2365 11.88 23 55.0 59.9% 7.12
20 Michael Thomas 2016 2017 2-47 NOR NFL 31 26 270 196 2382 12.15 14 76.8 72.6% 8.82
21 Jamison Crowder 2015 2017 4-105 WAS NFL 47 21 280 192 2240 11.67 12 47.7 68.6% 8.00
22 Pierre Garcon 2015 2017 6-205 TOT NFL 40 40 292 191 2318 12.14 9 58.0 65.4% 7.94
23 Brandon Marshall 2015 2017 4-119 TOT NFL 36 36 334 186 2444 13.14 17 67.9 55.7% 7.32
24 Jordan Matthews 2015 2017 2-42 TOT NFL 40 33 279 183 2083 11.38 12 52.1 65.6% 7.47
25 Marvin Jones 2015 2017 5-166 TOT NFL 47 44 313 181 2847 15.73 17 60.6 57.8% 9.10
26 Jordan Reed 2015 2017 3-85 WAS NFL 32 22 238 180 1849 10.27 19 57.8 75.6% 7.77
27 Keenan Allen 2015 2017 3-76 SDG NFL 25 24 255 175 2181 12.46 10 87.2 68.6% 8.55
28 Adam Thielen 2015 2017 MIN NFL 48 28 252 172 2387 13.88 9 49.7 68.3% 9.47
29 Jeremy Maclin 2015 2017 1-19 TOT NFL 39 39 272 171 2064 12.07 13 52.9 62.9% 7.59
30 Cole Beasley 2015 2017 DAL NFL 47 13 236 163 1683 10.33 14 35.8 69.1% 7.13
31 Alshon Jeffery 2015 2017 2-45 TOT NFL 37 36 308 163 2417 14.83 15 65.3 52.9% 7.85
32 Mike Wallace 2015 2017 3-84 TOT NFL 47 42 280 163 2238 13.73 10 47.6 58.2% 7.99
33 Rishard Matthews 2015 2017 7-227 TOT NFL 41 32 256 161 2402 14.92 17 58.6 62.9% 9.38
34 Julian Edelman 2015 2016 7-232 NWE NFL 25 22 247 159 1798 11.31 10 71.9 64.4% 7.28
35 Mohamed Sanu 2015 2017 3-83 TOT NFL 46 34 226 159 1750 11.01 9 38.0 70.4% 7.74
36 Jermaine Kearse 2015 2017 TOT NFL 48 45 259 155 2005 12.94 11 41.8 59.8% 7.74
37 Allen Robinson 2015 2017 2-61 JAX NFL 33 33 303 154 2300 14.94 20 69.7 50.8% 7.59
38 Robert Woods 2015 2017 2-41 TOT NFL 39 30 241 154 1946 12.64 9 49.9 63.9% 8.07
39 Brandon LaFell 2015 2017 3-78 TOT NFL 43 36 270 153 1925 12.58 9 44.8 56.7% 7.13
40 Ted Ginn 2015 2017 1-9 TOT NFL 46 31 262 151 2278 15.09 18 49.5 57.6% 8.69
41 Dez Bryant 2015 2017 1-24 DAL NFL 38 38 300 150 2035 13.57 17 53.6 50.0% 6.78
42 Jordy Nelson 2016 2017 2-36 GNB NFL 31 31 240 150 1739 11.59 20 56.1 62.5% 7.25
43 Danny Amendola 2015 2017 NWE NFL 41 19 202 149 1550 10.40 9 37.8 73.8% 7.67
44 Travis Benjamin 2015 2017 4-100 TOT NFL 46 26 262 149 2210 14.83 13 48.0 56.9% 8.44
45 Willie Snead 2015 2017 NOR NFL 41 20 221 149 1971 13.23 7 48.1 67.4% 8.92
46 Terrance Williams 2015 2017 3-74 DAL NFL 48 42 232 149 2002 13.44 7 41.7 64.2% 8.63
47 Eric Decker 2015 2017 3-87 TOT NFL 34 24 236 143 1784 12.48 15 52.5 60.6% 7.56
48 Adam Humphries 2015 2017 TAM NFL 44 7 206 143 1513 10.58 4 34.4 69.4% 7.34
49 DeVante Parker 2015 2017 1-14 MIA NFL 43 24 233 139 1908 13.73 8 44.4 59.7% 8.19
50 Allen Hurns 2015 2017 JAX NFL 36 34 237 138 1992 14.43 15 55.3 58.2% 8.41
51 Tyler Lockett 2015 2017 3-69 SEA NFL 47 25 206 137 1816 13.26 9 38.6 66.5% 8.82
52 Anquan Boldin 2015 2016 2-54 TOT NFL 30 29 206 136 1373 10.10 12 45.8 66.0% 6.67
53 Tyreek Hill 2016 2017 5-165 KAN NFL 31 14 188 136 1776 13.06 13 57.3 72.3% 9.45
54 DeSean Jackson 2015 2017 2-49 TOT NFL 39 37 239 136 2201 16.18 11 56.4 56.9% 9.21
55 Marqise Lee 2015 2017 2-39 JAX NFL 40 21 233 134 1744 13.01 7 43.6 57.5% 7.48
56 Kenny Stills 2015 2017 5-144 MIA NFL 48 40 249 127 2013 15.85 18 41.9 51.0% 8.08
57 Sammy Watkins 2015 2017 1-4 TOT NFL 36 35 218 127 2070 16.30 19 57.5 58.3% 9.50
58 Coby Fleener 2015 2017 2-34 TOT NFL 43 19 195 126 1417 11.25 8 33.0 64.6% 7.27
59 John Brown 2015 2017 3-91 CRD NFL 40 22 229 125 1819 14.55 12 45.5 54.6% 7.94
60 Vernon Davis 2015 2017 1-6 TOT NFL 47 39 186 125 1626 13.01 5 34.6 67.2% 8.74
61 Kenny Britt 2015 2017 1-30 TOT NFL 43 33 226 124 1939 15.64 10 45.1 54.9% 8.58
62 Sterling Shepard 2016 2017 2-40 NYG NFL 27 26 189 124 1414 11.40 10 52.4 65.6% 7.48
63 Kendall Wright 2015 2017 1-20 TOT NFL 37 17 193 124 1438 11.60 7 38.9 64.2% 7.45
64 Nelson Agholor 2015 2017 1-20 PHI NFL 44 36 208 121 1416 11.70 11 32.2 58.2% 6.81
65 Donte Moncrief 2015 2017 3-90 CLT NFL 37 25 208 120 1431 11.93 15 38.7 57.7% 6.88
66 Kamar Aiken 2015 2017 TOT NFL 47 27 221 119 1405 11.81 6 29.9 53.8% 6.36
67 Dontrelle Inman 2015 2017 TOT NFL 42 30 204 118 1639 13.89 8 39.0 57.8% 8.03
68 Devin Funchess 2015 2017 2-41 CAR NFL 47 28 232 117 1684 14.39 17 35.8 50.4% 7.26
69 Steve Smith 2015 2016 3-74 RAV NFL 21 21 174 116 1469 12.66 8 70.0 66.7% 8.44
70 Tyrell Williams 2015 2017 SDG NFL 36 27 193 114 1877 16.46 12 52.1 59.1% 9.73
71 Seth Roberts 2015 2017 RAI NFL 47 18 197 113 1332 11.79 11 28.3 57.4% 6.76
72 Kelvin Benjamin 2016 2017 1-28 TOT NFL 30 27 196 111 1633 14.71 10 54.4 56.6% 8.33
73 Chris Hogan 2015 2017 TOT NFL 40 25 176 108 1569 14.53 11 39.2 61.4% 8.91
74 Albert Wilson 2015 2017 KAN NFL 43 24 170 108 1284 11.89 7 29.9 63.5% 7.55
75 Robby Anderson 2016 2017 NYJ NFL 32 23 192 105 1528 14.55 9 47.8 54.7% 7.96
76 Martavis Bryant 2015 2017 4-118 PIT NFL 26 13 176 100 1368 13.68 9 52.6 56.8% 7.77
77 Michael Floyd 2015 2017 1-13 TOT NFL 41 15 182 99 1415 14.29 11 34.5 54.4% 7.77
78 Terrelle Pryor 2015 2017 3-1 TOT NFL 28 19 185 98 1289 13.15 5 46.0 53.0% 6.97
79 Torrey Smith 2015 2017 2-58 TOT NFL 44 38 178 89 1360 15.28 9 30.9 50.0% 7.64
80 Calvin Johnson 2015 2015 1-2 DET NFL 16 16 149 88 1214 13.80 9 75.9 59.1% 8.15
81 Marquise Goodwin 2015 2017 3-78 TOT NFL 33 25 175 87 1417 16.29 5 42.9 49.7% 8.10
82 JJ Nelson 2015 2017 5-159 CRD NFL 42 13 162 74 1375 18.58 10 32.7 45.7% 8.49







Not really on this one, I just don't like him.

[texaspackerbacker]

It may not happen the first year, but all three rookie receivers seem to have the ability to easily surpass what we had before. Allison, Montgomery, Davis, Yancey, damaged goods Jordy, even Janis who I had such a high opinion of, probably Clark, none of those guys come close athletically to the three newbies.

Adams has turned into a decent player, but he isn't gonna get much better. Cobb definitely seems to have peaked. It wouldn't take a helluva a big step up for any or all of the new guys to be an upgrade at some point - maybe soon.

[beveaux1]

I read a lot of opinions based on measurable of the rookie wide receivers that we drafted this year. Each one of these receivers has flaws or they would not have been drafted in the 4th through 6th rounds.

Historically, from the 2012 through the 2015 draft, 55 receivers were drafted in the 4th through 6th rounds. Of these receivers, only 10 have ever caught a pass in the NFL. Most of these caught less than 10 total passes. Only 2 have been gems — Stefon Diggs and Marvin Jones. One other notable receiver, Martavis Bryant has a chance to be a good starting receiver if off-field issues are resolved. Most are like Jarrius Wright and Jarrod Abbredaris, if they played at all.

History tells us that 17% of WRs drafted that late in the draft will catch a pass in the NFL. 6% will be a starting WR. Odds are that out of the 3 we drafted, we’ll be lucky to have one catch a pass in the NFL and overwhelmingly lucky to have one become a good starting receiver in the league....just to put it in perspective.

[pbmax]

I read a lot of opinions based on measurable of the rookie wide receivers that we drafted this year. Each one of these receivers has flaws or they would not have been drafted in the 4th through 6th rounds.

Historically, from the 2012 through the 2015 draft, 55 receivers were drafted in the 4th through 6th rounds. Of these receivers, only 10 have ever caught a pass in the NFL. Most of these caught less than 10 total passes. Only 2 have been gems — Stefon Diggs and Marvin Jones. One other notable receiver, Martavis Bryant has a chance to be a good starting receiver if off-field issues are resolved. Most are like Jarrius Wright and Jarrod Abbredaris, if they played at all.

History tells us that 17% of WRs drafted that late in the draft will catch a pass in the NFL. 6% will be a starting WR. Odds are that out of the 3 we drafted, we’ll be lucky to have one catch a pass in the NFL and overwhelmingly lucky to have one become a good starting receiver in the league....just to put it in perspective.

In other words, if one guy shines, its a win. Odds are they keep two around in some form or fashion (PS for instance).

[HarveyWallbangers]

Historically, from the 2012 through the 2015 draft, 55 receivers were drafted in the 4th through 6th rounds. Of these receivers, only 10 have ever caught a pass in the NFL.

This sounds completely bogus OR it was a really bad year. I took the time to look at the 2016 draft, and 14 of the 16 WRs drafted in those three rounds caught a pass in the NFL. The only two not to catch a pass were Moritz Boehringer (I think Mayock talked the Vikings into taking him) and Kolby Listenbee.

[pbmax]

Too good to be true:




Game Rece
Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
1 Antonio Brown 2012 2015 6-195 PIT NFL 61 56 647 441 5818 13.19 36 95.4 68.2% 8.99
2 Brandon Marshall 2012 2015 4-119 TOT NFL 61 61 635 388 5026 12.95 45 82.4 61.1% 7.91
3 Pierre Garcon 2012 2015 6-205 WAS NFL 58 56 465 297 3508 11.81 18 60.5 63.9% 7.54
4 Darren Sproles 2012 2015 4-130 TOT NFL 59 14 338 241 2046 8.49 10 34.7 71.3% 6.05
5 Brian Hartline 2012 2015 4-108 TOT NFL 60 50 404 235 3096 13.17 9 51.6 58.2% 7.66
6 Cecil Shorts 2012 2015 4-114 TOT NFL 51 38 413 216 2797 12.95 13 54.8 52.3% 6.77
7 Brandon Myers 2012 2015 6-202 TOT NFL 57 42 230 160 1645 10.28 8 28.9 69.6% 7.15
8 Jeremy Kerley 2012 2015 5-153 NYJ NFL 60 23 268 153 1911 12.49 8 31.9 57.1% 7.13
9 Jerricho Cotchery 2012 2015 4-108 TOT NFL 59 24 235 150 1872 12.48 14 31.7 63.8% 7.97
10 Riley Cooper 2012 2015 5-159 PHI NFL 59 49 267 146 1987 13.61 16 33.7 54.7% 7.44
11 Jason Avant 2012 2015 4-109 TOT NFL 62 20 239 140 1567 11.19 3 25.3 58.6% 6.56
12 Marvin Jones 2012 2015 5-166 CIN NFL 43 21 215 134 1729 12.90 15 40.2 62.3% 8.04
13 Jarius Wright 2012 2015 4-118 MIN NFL 55 14 191 124 1774 14.31 7 32.3 64.9% 9.29
14 Kenny Stills 2013 2015 5-144 TOT NFL 47 25 196 122 2012 16.49 11 42.8 62.2% 10.27
15 Brandon Gibson 2012 2014 6-194 TOT NFL 37 21 176 110 1312 11.93 9 35.5 62.5% 7.45
16 Travis Benjamin 2012 2015 4-100 CLE NFL 54 21 221 109 1683 15.44 10 31.2 49.3% 7.62
17 Denarius Moore 2012 2015 5-148 TOT NFL 43 27 227 109 1551 14.23 12 36.1 48.0% 6.83
18 Chris Givens 2012 2015 4-96 TOT NFL 60 31 237 107 1779 16.63 5 29.7 45.1% 7.51
19 Mike Williams 2012 2014 4-101 TOT NFL 31 21 185 93 1354 14.56 12 43.7 50.3% 7.32
20 Roy Helu 2012 2015 4-105 TOT NFL 42 0 112 89 848 9.53 3 20.2 79.5% 7.57
21 Brandon Lloyd 2012 2014 4-124 TOT NFL 30 18 166 88 1205 13.69 5 40.2 53.0% 7.26
22 Josh Morgan 2012 2014 6-174 TOT NFL 44 29 126 78 794 10.18 3 18.0 61.9% 6.30
23 Martavis Bryant 2014 2015 4-118 PIT NFL 21 8 140 76 1314 17.29 14 62.6 54.3% 9.39
24 Louis Murphy 2012 2015 4-124 TOT NFL 47 9 148 72 951 13.21 4 20.2 48.6% 6.43
25 Dwayne Harris 2012 2015 6-176 TOT NFL 60 9 114 69 814 11.80 7 13.6 60.5% 7.14
26 Keshawn Martin 2012 2015 4-121 TOT NFL 57 10 117 62 685 11.05 5 12.0 53.0% 5.85
27 Jamison Crowder 2015 2015 4-105 WAS NFL 16 6 78 59 604 10.24 2 37.8 75.6% 7.74
28 Luke Willson 2013 2015 5-158 SEA NFL 45 24 94 59 847 14.36 5 18.8 62.8% 9.01
29 Brandon Stokley 2012 2013 4-105 TOT NFL 21 9 79 58 659 11.36 5 31.4 73.4% 8.34
30 Ace Sanders 2013 2014 4-101 JAX NFL 27 4 94 57 539 9.46 1 20.0 60.6% 5.73
31 Stefon Diggs 2015 2015 5-146 MIN NFL 13 9 84 52 720 13.85 4 55.4 61.9% 8.57
32 Kris Durham 2012 2014 4-107 TOT NFL 24 16 117 52 669 12.87 3 27.9 44.4% 5.72
33 Niles Paul 2012 2014 5-155 WAS NFL 47 15 75 51 710 13.92 2 15.1 68.0% 9.47
34 Dion Sims 2013 2015 4-106 MIA NFL 42 11 71 48 443 9.23 4 10.5 67.6% 6.24
35 Domenik Hixon 2012 2013 4-130 TOT NFL 28 3 68 46 622 13.52 3 22.2 67.6% 9.15
36 Denard Robinson 2013 2015 5-135 JAX NFL 42 12 62 44 288 6.55 0 6.9 71.0% 4.65
37 DeAnthony Thomas 2014 2015 4-124 KAN NFL 22 4 56 40 296 7.40 1 13.5 71.4% 5.29
38 Quinton Patton 2013 2015 4-128 SFO NFL 26 4 70 36 472 13.11 1 18.2 51.4% 6.74
39 Luke Stocker 2012 2015 4-104 TAM NFL 45 33 51 32 267 8.34 2 5.9 62.7% 5.24
40 Ryan Grant 2014 2015 5-142 WAS NFL 32 7 57 30 336 11.20 2 10.5 52.6% 5.89
41 Aldrick Robinson 2012 2014 6-178 TOT NFL 38 3 65 30 608 20.27 5 16.0 46.2% 9.35
42 Clyde Gates 2012 2013 4-111 NYJ NFL 17 4 57 28 346 12.36 0 20.4 49.1% 6.07
43 Lee Smith 2012 2015 5-159 TOT NFL 61 46 34 28 203 7.25 4 3.3 82.4% 5.97
44 Tandon Doss 2012 2014 4-123 TOT NFL 29 2 53 26 428 16.46 1 14.8 49.1% 8.08
45 Kyle Williams 2012 2014 6-206 TOT NFL 21 8 49 26 325 12.50 1 15.5 53.1% 6.63
46 Kellen Davis 2012 2015 5-158 TOT NFL 53 28 62 25 279 11.16 4 5.3 40.3% 4.50
47 LaVon Brazill 2012 2013 6-206 CLT NFL 25 0 51 23 347 15.09 3 13.9 45.1% 6.80
48 Quincy Enunwa 2014 2015 6-209 NYJ NFL 13 6 46 22 315 14.32 0 24.2 47.8% 6.85
49 Justin Hardy 2015 2015 4-107 ATL NFL 9 1 36 21 194 9.24 0 21.6 58.3% 5.39
50 Nick Toon 2012 2015 4-122 TOT NFL 17 5 35 21 283 13.48 1 16.6 60.0% 8.09
51 Juron Criner 2012 2014 5-168 TOT NFL 13 0 41 19 183 9.63 1 14.1 46.3% 4.46
52 Bruce Ellington 2014 2015 4-106 SFO NFL 26 0 31 19 215 11.32 2 8.3 61.3% 6.94
53 Rashad Greene 2015 2015 5-139 JAX NFL 9 0 35 19 93 4.89 2 10.3 54.3% 2.66
54 Greg Salas 2012 2015 4-112 TOT NFL 21 2 41 19 351 18.47 0 16.7 46.3% 8.56
55 Corey Fuller 2014 2015 6-171 DET NFL 28 2 40 18 288 16.00 1 10.3 45.0% 7.20
56 Mike Thomas 2012 2012 4-107 2TM NFL 16 4 40 18 108 6.00 1 6.8 45.0% 2.70
57 Michael Robinson 2012 2013 4-100 SEA NFL 25 9 18 15 153 10.20 2 6.1 83.3% 8.50
58 Keith Mumphery 2015 2015 5-175 HTX NFL 16 3 32 14 129 9.21 0 8.1 43.8% 4.03
59 Jacoby Ford 2012 2013 4-108 RAI NFL 14 1 24 13 99 7.62 0 7.1 54.2% 4.13
60 Justin Brown 2014 2014 6-186 PIT NFL 8 1 21 12 94 7.83 0 11.8 57.1% 4.48
61 JJ Nelson 2015 2015 5-159 CRD NFL 11 2 27 11 299 27.18 2 27.2 40.7% 11.07
62 T.J. Jones 2014 2015 6-189 DET NFL 10 0 18 10 132 13.20 1 13.2 55.6% 7.33
63 Jared Abbrederis 2014 2015 5-176 GNB NFL 9 0 16 9 111 12.33 0 12.3 56.3% 6.94
64 Josh Boyce 2013 2014 4-102 NWE NFL 10 3 19 9 121 13.44 0 12.1 47.4% 6.37
65 Randy McMichael 2012 2012 4-114 SDG NFL 16 10 13 9 51 5.67 0 3.2 69.2% 3.92
66 Kevin Norwood 2014 2015 4-123 TOT NFL 10 2 11 9 102 11.33 0 10.2 81.8% 9.27
67 Devin Street 2014 2015 5-146 DAL NFL 30 2 20 9 132 14.67 1 4.4 45.0% 6.60
68 Steve Breaston 2012 2012 5-142 KAN NFL 10 4 15 7 74 10.57 0 7.4 46.7% 4.93
69 Austin Collie 2012 2013 4-127 TOT NFL 8 1 12 7 69 9.86 0 8.6 58.3% 5.75
70 Ryan Whalen 2012 2013 6-167 CIN NFL 13 0 12 7 53 7.57 0 4.1 58.3% 4.42
71 Robert Herron 2014 2014 6-185 TAM NFL 8 0 12 6 58 9.67 1 7.3 50.0% 4.83
72 David Reed 2012 2013 5-156 TOT NFL 12 0 9 6 68 11.33 0 5.7 66.7% 7.56
73 Joe Webb 2012 2015 6-199 TOT NFL 40 1 14 6 49 8.17 0 1.2 42.9% 3.50
74 Devon Wylie 2012 2014 4-107 TOT NFL 8 1 12 6 53 8.83 0 6.6 50.0% 4.42
75 Lavelle Hawkins 2012 2013 4-126 TOT NFL 11 1 11 5 62 12.40 0 5.6 45.5% 5.64



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Generated 5/9/2018.

I included TEs and RBs in the draftees in order not to miss someone who converted to WR in the pros. Its supposed to display only pro WR, but somehow Darren Sproles got in there.

[pbmax]

Game Rece
Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
76 Marcus Easley 2012 2015 4-107 BUF NFL 42 0 8 3 71 23.67 1 1.7 37.5% 8.88
77 Dezmon Briscoe 2012 2012 6-191 WAS NFL 7 0 5 2 22 11.00 0 3.1 40.0% 4.40
78 Geremy Davis 2015 2015 6-186 NYG NFL 10 0 3 2 21 10.50 0 2.1 66.7% 7.00
79 Mardy Gilyard 2012 2012 4-99 2TM NFL 8 0 6 2 15 7.50 0 1.9 33.3% 2.50
80 Trindon Holliday 2012 2014 6-197 TOT NFL 32 0 2 2 17 8.50 0 0.5 100.0% 8.50
81 Tavarres King 2014 2014 5-161 2TM NFL 2 0 3 2 13 6.50 0 6.5 66.7% 4.33
82 Kealoha Pilares 2012 2012 5-132 CAR NFL 8 0 4 2 42 21.00 1 5.3 50.0% 10.50
83 Darren Waller 2015 2015 6-204 RAV NFL 6 1 6 2 18 9.00 0 3.0 33.3% 3.00
84 Joe Adams 2012 2012 4-104 CAR NFL 9 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 0.8 100.0% 7.00
85 Legedu Naanee 2012 2012 5-172 MIA NFL 4 1 5 1 19 19.00 0 4.8 20.0% 3.80
86 Jalen Saunders 2014 2014 4-104 4TM NFL 15 0 1 1 7 7.00 0 0.5 100.0% 7.00
87 Alan Bonner 2014 2014 6-195 HTX NFL 0 0 0 0 0.0%
88 Greg Childs 2012 2012 4-134 MIN NFL 0 0 0 0.0%
89 Kaelin Clay 2015 2015 6-184 RAV NFL 7 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%
90 Danny Coale 2012 2012 5-152 DAL NFL 0 0 0 0.0%
91 B.J. Cunningham 2012 2014 6-183 TOT NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%
92 Shaquelle Evans 2014 2014 4-115 NYJ NFL 0 0 0 0 0.0%
93 David Gettis 2012 2012 6-198 CAR NFL 2 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%
94 Cobi Hamilton 2014 2014 6-197 2TM NFL 0 1 0 0 0 0.0%
95 Chris Harper 2013 2014 4-123 TOT NFL 4 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%
96 Matt Hazel 2014 2015 6-190 MIA NFL 5 1 1 0 0 0 0.0 0.0% 0.00
97 Vince Mayle 2015 2015 4-123 DAL NFL 1 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0.0% 0.00
98 Marvin McNutt 2012 2014 6-194 TOT NFL 5 0 3 0 0 0 0.0 0.0% 0.00
99 Kerry Meier 2012 2012 5-165 ATL NFL 0 0 0 0.0%
100 Walt Powell 2014 2015 6-196 TOT NFL 6 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%


Game Rece
Rk Player From To Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
101 Matt Slater 2012 2015 5-153 NWE NFL 60 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0.0% 0.00
102 Evan Spencer 2015 2015 6-187 TAM NFL 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0.0%
103 Tommy Streeter 2012 2014 6-198 TOT NFL 2 0 1 0 0 0 0.0 0.0% 0.00


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Generated 5/9/2018.

[beveaux1]

Antonio Brown was drafted in 2010. Brandon Marshall was drafted in 2006. Pierre Garçon was drafted in 2008. Darren Sproles was drafted in 2005. The first player on this list that was a WR drafted between 2012 and 2015 was Marvin Jones. There were only 55 WRs drafted from the 4th through 6th rounds between 2012 and 2015. There have been a few RBs, TEs, and even QBs (Joe Webb) that have spent time as WRs, but only 55 were drafted as WRs.

Obviously, there have been many (more than I had any clue about) 4th through 6th rounders that have made an impact in the NFL that were drafted between 2000 through 2015. I’m still not sure that the chances for a starter grade player that late in the draft is greater than 20%.

[Joemailman]

Okay, I did the search. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2012&year_max=2015&draft_round_min=4&draft_round_max=6&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&pick_type=round&pos%5B%5D=wr&conference=any&show=all&order_by=default

55 WR's drafted from 2012-2015 in rounds 4-6

41 have caught a pass.

10 with 1000+ receiving yards in their career.

6 with 2000+ receiving yards.

[mraynrand]

Seems like whatever team "TOT" is does some amazing drafting.

[pbmax]

Antonio Brown was drafted in 2010. Brandon Marshall was drafted in 2006. Pierre Garçon was drafted in 2008. Darren Sproles was drafted in 2005. The first player on this list that was a WR drafted between 2012 and 2015 was Marvin Jones. There were only 55 WRs drafted from the 4th through 6th rounds between 2012 and 2015. There have been a few RBs, TEs, and even QBs (Joe Webb) that have spent time as WRs, but only 55 were drafted as WRs.

Obviously, there have been many (more than I had any clue about) 4th through 6th rounders that have made an impact in the NFL that were drafted between 2000 through 2015. I’m still not sure that the chances for a starter grade player that late in the draft is greater than 20%.

Yeah, that search turned up more than 2012-2015 draftees.

[woodbuck27]

http://jetlaggin.com/the-worst-nfl-draft-picks-in-football-history/?utm_source=OUTBRAIN&utm_campaign=81529&utm_term=Bleacher+Report+-+NFL

THE WORST NFL DRAFT PICKS IN FOOTBALL HISTORY

I wonder who will be chose as the absolute worst Draft Pick of all time? woodbuck27