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Patler
10-18-2017, 10:48 AM
Wow, has this guy been a disappointment, so far.

Against the Vikings, he had an absurd drop on the play Rodgers was injured. It would have been a first down, too. It seems he has had at least one of those "easy" drops in every game.

Later in the game, he was kept in to help the RT, didn't touch the guy, and watched Hundley get crushed. He has been widely respected as one of the best blocking TEs in the game, and has had a few for GB, but he has had a number of less than stellar efforts too.

It almost looks like his heart isn't in the game this year. Too many concerns about his brother and social issues, maybe? I'm not criticizing him, if that is the case. On several interviews, he seemed very troubled about it.

His inconsistency is hurting the offense.

Teamcheez1
10-18-2017, 10:52 AM
Bennett, Bakhtiaria, and Randall are my candidates for "Dud of the Year" at this point in the season.

Bulaga and Dix could be my dark horses.

gbgary
10-18-2017, 11:09 AM
bennett signed a 3 year deal. he's TE1 for the foreseeable. maybe he'll come around but it if he doesn't maybe he'll do everyone a favor and retire.

mraynrand
10-18-2017, 11:12 AM
It almost looks like his heart isn't in the game this year. Too many concerns about his brother and social issues, maybe? I'm not criticizing him, if that is the case. On several interviews, he seemed very troubled about it.

I'm troubled by it too and my boss doesn't give a shit.

bobblehead
10-18-2017, 01:40 PM
Extremely disappointed. When is he going to split the seam?

Harlan Huckleby
10-18-2017, 01:51 PM
Jared Cook is the starting TE now for Raiders. But he had a shoulder injury and hasn't lighted it up.

gbgary
10-18-2017, 03:20 PM
Extremely disappointed. When is he going to split the seam?

the drop on Rodgers last pass added insult to injury.

woodbuck27
10-19-2017, 11:21 AM
TT had a solid TE in Jared Cook last Season and let him know that fact wasn't appreciated.

What do we really know and Martellus Bennett's total relationship with the Packers off the Field?

With his life off the Field?

Martellus Bennett is an interesting watch. He has a big body thus easy to see.

Here is his NFL History and Stat's;what were you hoping for or expecting from Martellus Bennett ?

http://www.nfl.com/player/martellusbennett/1062/careerstats

Is he a TD machine? Is he a TE that extends the field?

How many NFL Teams have signed Martellus Bennett?

Why do you think that happened in his NFL career?

Why did the NE Patriots allow him to walk?

He is (by reputation) a decent blocking TE.

What are you now expecting from Martellus Bennett ?

Pugger
10-19-2017, 11:53 AM
TT had a solid TE in Jared Cook last Season and let him know that fact wasn't appreciated.

What do we really know and Martellus Bennett's total relationship with the Packers off the Field?

With his life off the Field?

Martellus Bennett is an interesting watch. He has a big body thus easy to see.

Here is his NFL History and Stat's;what were you hoping for or expecting from Martellus Bennett ?

http://www.nfl.com/player/martellusbennett/1062/careerstats

Is he a TD machine? Is he a TE that extends the field?

How many NFL Teams have signed Martellus Bennett?

Why do you think that happened in his NFL career?

Why did the NE Patriots allow him to walk?

He is (by reputation) a decent blocking TE.

What are you now expecting from Martellus Bennett ?

No, we let Cook go when we had the chance to make an upgrade with Bennett. Bennett has always been better than Cook. The real crime here is with Rodgers hurt he and Martellus don't have more opportunities to get connected and won't until next spring.

Tony Oday
10-19-2017, 11:53 AM
the drop on Rodgers last pass added insult to injury.

I see what you did there.

woodbuck27
10-19-2017, 12:06 PM
No, we let Cook go when we had the chance to make an upgrade with Bennett. Bennett has always been better than Cook. The real crime here is with Rodgers hurt he and Martellus don't have more opportunities to get connected and won't until next spring.

:-) Sure.

Tony Oday
10-19-2017, 12:31 PM
No, we let Cook go when we had the chance to make an upgrade with Bennett. Bennett has always been better than Cook. The real crime here is with Rodgers hurt he and Martellus don't have more opportunities to get connected and won't until next spring.

Obviously you don't understand modern medicine and the all world healing abilities of Aaron "Thor" Rodgers.

LEWCWA
10-19-2017, 06:46 PM
Marty B. has been overrated his whole career! There is a reason he has played for so many teams. I have never been a fan, just a typical tease!

Rutnstrut
10-19-2017, 08:22 PM
The TEAM would have been farther ahead with Cook. But chalk that up to another TT screw up.

red
10-19-2017, 09:46 PM
yeah, his head not in the game or something

big disappointment

mraynrand
10-19-2017, 10:44 PM
I'm still baffled as to why they gave up Cook and went and got Kendricks. They could have picked up Bennett for blocking and keptCook for receiving. Especially after that nice run down the stretch last year.

mraynrand
10-19-2017, 10:44 PM
Oh and now look - Cook fantastic down the stretch for the Raiders.

Rutnstrut
10-19-2017, 10:53 PM
Oh and now look - Cook fantastic down the stretch for the Raiders.

He's been getting better as the season wears on. As he gets more settled with his new team. Sound familiar??? Just think how great he could have been in GB this year.

Harlan Huckleby
10-19-2017, 11:18 PM
We will need to convene the Council of Elders at the end of the regular season to decide whether Bennett is really better than Cook, at least this season. The COE may need to issue some rebukes, we'll see.

I thought Cook really had developed some chemistry with team last year. Would his salary have broken the bank? Maybe so.

mraynrand
10-19-2017, 11:24 PM
two years, 12.2 million? That's really not that much. And I bet the Packers could have had him a little cheaper had they acted right away.

Also, I don't see this as necessarily a Cook or Bennett deal. Probably could have had both. Bennett was only 3.85 mil cap hit this year. Next year is 8.5 mil. Could have structured Cook for three year deal with lower cap hit which would probably be about 2 times Kendricks hit. Maybe. Not a huge difference to have a really dynamic TE and the clocking TE you wanted too.

Pugger
10-19-2017, 11:35 PM
Didn't we make an offer to Cook that he declined before we signed Bennett?

mraynrand
10-19-2017, 11:37 PM
Didn't we make an offer to Cook that he declined before we signed Bennett?

I just can't recall if there was evidence that they tried to low ball him. maybe PB or Patler who love this salary stuff know.

Patler
10-20-2017, 07:04 AM
I just can't recall if there was evidence that they tried to low ball him. maybe PB or Patler who love this salary stuff know.

Conflicting reports "from insiders" within days after Bennett signed.
First stories said they had offered Cook more than they ended up giving Bennett, making it a virtual no-brainer for them.
The next day that was contradicted, with reports they offered Cook $6 million/ year for 3 years, and Bennett got essentially $7 million/year for 3 years.

Either way, they didn't low-ball Cook.

bobblehead
10-20-2017, 07:19 AM
Oh and now look - Cook fantastic down the stretch for the Raiders.

They only showed it once on replay then conveniently avoided it, but he did a nice 2 handed push in the back right before that big catch. The call on Crabtree on the next play was practically an admission that they got an earful from the replay officials.

bobblehead
10-20-2017, 07:22 AM
The TEAM would have been farther ahead with Cook. But chalk that up to another TT screw up.

Bennett is a far superior TE. How often when we have been forced to have Bennett help out our 8th string LT do you think cook could have done it? Cook can't block. He is a glorified WR.

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 07:24 AM
They only showed it once on replay then conveniently avoided it, but he did a nice 2 handed push in the back right before that big catch. The call on Crabtree on the next play was practically an admission that they got an earful from the replay officials.

He also caught a fourth down reception to keep the drive alive. The guy has skills. Would be nice to have him instead of Kendricks.

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 07:26 AM
Conflicting reports "from insiders" within days after Bennett signed.
First stories said they had offered Cook more than they ended up giving Bennett, making it a virtual no-brainer for them.
The next day that was contradicted, with reports they offered Cook $6 million/ year for 3 years, and Bennett got essentially $7 million/year for 3 years.

Either way, they didn't low-ball Cook.


This is more consistent with the thinking that Cook just wanted to play elsewhere. I saw that somewhere looking for salary info but forgot the link.

Harlan Huckleby
10-20-2017, 09:41 AM
Bennett is a far superior TE. How often when we have been forced to have Bennett help out our 8th string LT do you think cook could have done it? Cook can't block. He is a glorified WR.

I'll take a glorified WR who was as productive downfield against safeties as Cook was last year.

Your proclamation that Bennett is "far superior" conflicts with Bennett's play so far. So who do I believe, you or my own lying eyes?

It is still early, Bennett heroics may await.

Maxie the Taxi
10-20-2017, 10:19 AM
I squat with the Blue Dog!

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 10:19 AM
They only showed it once on replay then conveniently avoided it, but he did a nice 2 handed push in the back right before that big catch. The call on Crabtree on the next play was practically an admission that they got an earful from the replay officials.

P.S. Crabtree pushed off on the game-tying TD as well. Maybe not as egregious and/or the officials were tired of calling penalties on every play/wanted to make it safely past Marshawn Lynch to their cars in the parking lot.

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 10:19 AM
I squat with the Blue Dog!

ew

pbmax
10-20-2017, 10:56 AM
Cook took the Packers offer, which the Packers understood to be within his acceptable range and then said they wanted time to think, i.e.. shop it around.

The Packers thinking they had been used, went after another guy instead of waiting, thinking it would be an upgrade since M3 wanted more blocking from TEs.

Harlan Huckleby
10-20-2017, 11:06 AM
Cook did have a TD drop last night after he was interfered with. There will be a lot of evidence for the Council of Elders to sift through.

I see Cook is one month younger than Bennett. No stone will be left unturned, no wrong-headed loud mouth will be spared.

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 11:10 AM
I squat with the Blue Dog!

So does OBJ!
https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/Wires/Images/2017-09-24/Getty/853246062.jpg?t=20170517

mraynrand
10-20-2017, 11:12 AM
Cook took the Packers offer, which the Packers understood to be within his acceptable range and then said they wanted time to think, i.e.. shop it around.

The Packers thinking they had been used, went after another guy instead of waiting, thinking it would be an upgrade since M3 wanted more blocking from TEs.

Is that offer # known? IOW how much more did he get?

pbmax
10-21-2017, 08:36 AM
Is that offer # known? IOW how much more did he get?

Only in relative terms. Patler has the basics, that Cook got an offer but wanted to think it over.

Rather than wait and end up short, Packers offered Bennett a little more (I newspaper shorthand it was $1 mil per year) for same term and he agreed right away.

bobblehead
10-21-2017, 11:37 AM
I'll take a glorified WR who was as productive downfield against safeties as Cook was last year.

Your proclamation that Bennett is "far superior" conflicts with Bennett's play so far. So who do I believe, you or my own lying eyes?

It is still early, Bennett heroics may await.

You are a typical fan. You look at TE as a position that is meant to catch passes. I look at it as a position of flexibility. If you want a pass catcher to exploit the safety line up Jordy at TE. Of course the entire defense knows what you are doing in that case.

While I am disappointed that our OL is in such disarray that Bennett has been neutralized as a pass catcher, I am not so naive as to think that we would be better off with Cook. Rodgers likely would have been injured 3 weeks earlier with Cook there.

bobblehead
10-21-2017, 11:38 AM
P.S. Crabtree pushed off on the game-tying TD as well. Maybe not as egregious and/or the officials were tired of calling penalties on every play/wanted to make it safely past Marshawn Lynch to their cars in the parking lot.

He absolutely did. He also pushed off on Al Harris no less than 4 times that wasn't called. I doubt they would have called that if not for blowing the previous call on Cook and having it pointed out to them.

bobblehead
10-21-2017, 11:43 AM
Cook 9 seasons: 124 games 330/560 catches/targets 4196 yards 18 TD's 8 fumbles
Bennett 10 seasons: 141 games 425/635 c/t 4500 yards 30 TD's and 4 fumbles And unquestionably a far superior blocker.

Now tell me which one is the better player. Right now Bennett is being forced to stay near the line because Rand is lining up at LT this week.

pbmax
10-21-2017, 12:14 PM
Bennett has had better QBs. Cook is a threat all over the field with speed.

Bennett will be fine as soon as Hundley figures out how to get the ball to him in a good position. Rodgers and Bennett were still figuring this out.

Zool
10-21-2017, 01:24 PM
I think Bennett will be the security blanket for Brent. Th offense should shift to a rhythm passing attack with a back helping the oline. Marty will be the king of the 5 yard in/out routes.

Harlan Huckleby
10-21-2017, 03:08 PM
You are a typical fan. You look at TE as a position that is meant to catch passes. I look at it as a position of flexibility. If you want a pass catcher to exploit the safety line up Jordy at TE. Of course the entire defense knows what you are doing in that case.

ahhh, Bennett is a glorified offensive tackle.

J/K pbmax assures me Bennett is a fantasy football stud; he will eventually show up.