Official Packers vs. Bears II Game Day Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 95-94-6.

Last meeting: Packers beat Bears 35-14 on September 28 at Lambeau.

Last meeting in Chicago: Packers beat Bears 30-27 on December 18, 2016.

Last meeting in which neither Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers were the Packers starting QB: I believe it would be December 8, 1991: Bears beat the Packers 27-13. Mike Tomczak was the Packers quarterback. He threw for 215 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. Darrell Thompson rushed 14 times for 48 yards.

[pbmax]

Its going to be wooly. Not much film on Trubisky and their offense is changing with him. Otherwise I have no idea what to expect from the defense.

Hundley will be better as they figure out what he can/can't do and what he prefers in certain situations.

Really need a fuckdoggle this week.

Packers 27 Bears 26

[esoxx]

How many decades did it take GB to finally take the lead in overall series?

Need to win today. Period

[Teamcheez1]

Bears 21 - Packers 17

Packers outscore Bears 17-14 on offense, but the Bears score a defensive TD.

[Pugger]

How many decades did it take GB to finally take the lead in overall series?

Need to win today. Period

Why do we need a win today? What good would it do? This team ain't going anywhere so embrace the tank.

[mraynrand]

Why do we need a win today? What good would it do? This team ain't going anywhere so embrace the tank.

You can't say this and be a Packer fan. Repent!

[mraynrand]

How many decades did it take GB to finally take the lead in overall series?

Need to win today. Period

Amen!

[esoxx]

Why do we need a win today? What good would it do? This team ain't going anywhere so embrace the tank.

Have we really reached this level of depravity that it's "okay" for the Packers to lose to the Bears?

Ray Nitschke just rolled over in his grave.

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[denverYooper]

I will never embrace the tank.

They may not win a lot more this year but I expect a win every week. This week is no different.

[The Shadow]

If we start seeing McCarthy dial up the "Flat Pass For Loss" play, it's gonna be a long afternoom.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll watch and root for the win every week. Fuck tanking.

[Pugger]

You can't say this and be a Packer fan. Repent!

:lol: I'm trying to get this team to get rid of Capers and get a higher draft seeding. :wink:

[Pugger]

I'll watch and root for the win every week. Fuck tanking.

I doubt we'll tank but unless their play improves big time I don't see a lot of victories in our future this season.

[Joemailman]

Why do we need a win today? What good would it do? This team ain't going anywhere so embrace the tank.

Isn't he banned?

[Maxie the Taxi]

I doubt we'll tank but unless their play improves big time I don't see a lot of victories in our future this season.Stubby is the best coach in history when his back is against the wall. Don't count him out yet. Wait for the playoffs for that. :-)

[pbmax]

^Ouch.

I cannot embrace the tank either. Nor give up the overall series lead to go back to an infernal tie.

However, I won't burn the notice of my season ticket spot if the Packers are picking in the Top Ten either.

[beveaux1]

Nasty day in Chicago.

[Fritz]

If we start seeing McCarthy dial up the "Flat Pass For Loss" play, it's gonna be a long afternoom.

Who knows?

The Shadow knows!

[Guiness]

Here for the game, and like others mentioned, rooting to the end. Fuck tanking, never want to see it. Dammit though, the Bears punter better see the field, that was beyond painful last week.


For more thoughts on the mess the team is in, see the thread I started about getting backup QB field time http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?30084-Why-don-t-backup-QBs-get-game-reps&p=949470#post949470

[pbmax]

The beginning of the end of the Packer defense was the fact that they somehow acquired competent ILBs. Ryan with great tackle wide.

Good luck running against Clark and Perry.

[beveaux1]

A stop. Wow!

[pbmax]

Its a punt!!

[jklowan]

I expect the Pack to play well today 21-14 Pack

[beveaux1]

Dumb return! Lost 11 yds on that one.

[woodbuck27]

I havn't got this game on our TV package darn it.

I'll have to keep track of this game on NFL.com.

[Joemailman]

Dumb return! Lost 11 yds on that one.

In his defense, Packers haven't returned a punt in a while.

[Guiness]

Moron

[pbmax]

Bring Black Janis!

[pbmax]

Motion! perhaps.

[pbmax]

He was open, throw was way late and telegraphed.

[beveaux1]

Good play! Bad tackling.

[red]

holy crap cobb is slow

[Rutnstrut]

Just run the fucking ball instead of throwing behind the los.

[beveaux1]

Jones might be hurt.

[Forerunner]

Now Jones limping

[Forerunner]

Packers players are made of glass I swear

[Rutnstrut]

Now Jones limping

He will be back.

[pbmax]

Stop running on first down. Liked FB in game and then pass option. Terrible check down though

[pbmax]

Another late throw wide right.

[red]

lots and lots of short stuff again

why are they going after fuller? he's almost had 2 ints so far this drive. thats kind of stupid

[beveaux1]

Man! He's no Rodgers.

[pbmax]

Another late throw wide right.

Needed to lead him more too. No reason for DB to catch up to throw on that out.

[MadScientist]

3 rd and 2 and didn't even have a back?

[pbmax]

Operation NOMINAL! FG.

[Joemailman]

Shaky start for Hundley. 2 near INT's and a missed read on 3rd down.

[beveaux1]

Hundley hesitates nearly every play. He causes pressure. Pass protection was good that drive, but Hundley was below average.

[The Shadow]

3 rd and 2 and didn't even have a back?

I never understand why you telegraph it's a pass on 3rd & 2.

[pbmax]

Inactives:


Green Bay’s inactive list did not include any surprises. Starting right tackle Bryan Bulaga and safety Morgan Burnett are inactive, but coach Mike McCarthy ruled them out early in the week. The other inactives are defensive tackle Quinton Dial (chest), running back Devante Mays, cornerback Donatello Brown and outside linebacker Chris Odom.

Bulaga and Burnett out. Brooks and Biegel both active.

[Forerunner]

Jordy having a rough time without Rodgers. His touches are down 70%+. Every time he gets a look it's a bad throw.

Jones carted off

[red]

He will be back.

nope

[Rutnstrut]

I guess he won't be back.

[MadScientist]

At least they got the 3.

Shit how did Jones get hurt?

[pbmax]

Crap.

[red]

ANKLE BITER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rutnstrut]

Imagine that, Clay fooled.

[pbmax]

That is the price of Matthews as an ILB.

[red]

At least they got the 3.

Shit how did Jones get hurt?

he got drafted by the packers

[beveaux1]

At least Montgomery is healthy.

[Forerunner]

Only thing worse than our offense is our defense. We'd have a shot with a top 10 D. Offense could put 17 on theboard

[Maxie the Taxi]

Inactives:



Bulaga and Burnett out. Brooks and Biegel both active.Really disappointing Mays is inactive, especially now that Jones is hurt.

[beveaux1]

For now.

[MadScientist]

Bears have this false start play down pat.

[Joemailman]

Man! He's no Rodgers.

Not even a Flynn.

[pbmax]

Jones with a knee and questionable to return.

[Forerunner]

What are your guys' thoughts on Mcarthy? Seems a lack of Aaron is exposing his actual ability

[Rutnstrut]

Clay is now slower than Hawk was in his last year.

[Guiness]

Catch and run by a 270lb TE? This defense, *sigh*

now a gain of 14. Put me on the 'fire Dom Capers' train

[red]

clay with a missed tackle, haha gets plowed over

knee injury for the rookie, he's done

[pbmax]

Ryan ran himself out of hole on that run and Martinez never found the ball. He was nowhere near the hole.

[beveaux1]

Good pressure. Nice pass.

[woodbuck27]

What are your guys' thoughts on Mcarthy? Seems a lack of Aaron is exposing his actual ability

No kidding. :idea:

[red]

What are your guys' thoughts on Mcarthy? Seems a lack of Aaron is exposing his actual ability

the team wins with a-rod in spite of him, not because of him

he's a fraud

[Forerunner]

Holding

[red]

the bears are helping our d with all the flags

might be the only thing that can keep us in this game

[pbmax]

Cohen with nice route and a nice pass. Randall lost him.

[red]

need to grab those when they're thrown right between your hands

gonna cost us points

[pbmax]

fackrell lost contain.

[beveaux1]

Not a catch.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Is it forecast to rain all afternoon or maybe turn to snow?

[mraynrand]

:lol: I'm trying to get this team to get rid of Capers and get a higher draft seeding. :wink:

he doesn't need your help!

[woodbuck27]

Four out of Ten Packerrats placed Confidence Points on a Packer Win today.

Their total added was 16 CP's.

The other Six Packerrats placed a Total of 29 CP's on da Bears.

[Rutnstrut]

the team wins with a-rod in spite of him, not because of him

he's a fraud

Dilly, dilly.

[Joemailman]

Is it forecast to rain all afternoon or maybe turn to snow?

A few minutes ago it looked like snow, then switched back.

[red]

does anyone remember how we only scored 10 points against the lions last week until garbage time?

the browns are beating the lions 10-3 in the first

[pbmax]

I really want Janis back for KO. Let Davis have the punts.

[woodbuck27]

Dilly, dilly.

Mike 'Dilly Dilly' McCarthy :cry:

[beveaux1]

Nice screen.

[red]

Is it forecast to rain all afternoon or maybe turn to snow?

rain all game, to warm for snow, its over 40 there

[Maxie the Taxi]

Mike 'Dilly Dilly' McCarthy :cry:Dilly. Dilly.

[pbmax]

What happened to Monty on that screen? he usually gets an extra 2 yards?

[red]

I really want Janis back for KO. Let Davis have the punts.

why is janis even still on the team?

[Rutnstrut]

Imagine that, the fake RB can't pick up a first.

[Maxie the Taxi]

rain all game, to warm for snow, its over 40 therehahahahaha It's almost 80 here.

[Guiness]

Is Hudley chewing gum? How does he not swallow and choke on that?

[red]

thats piss poor

wow mike, that almost fooled everyone. you sly fox you

[pbmax]

I don't know what Monty was doing there. He was looking for a hole in the middle of the line while his FB went wide to block.

I hate the desperation fake snap. And a TO gone.

[Joemailman]

Is Hudley chewing gum? How does he not swallow and choke on that?

He spits.

[red]

hahahahaha It's almost 80 here.

well FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Is Hudley chewing gum? How does he not swallow and choke on that?How does he walk?

[beveaux1]

Imagine that, the fake RB can't pick up a first.

Kendricks got blown up.

[red]

LOL

i though that commercial said "dick doesn't just leave a stain on your jeans"

[Forerunner]

montgomery needs to lower his shoulder and go. 3rd and short and you stutter around laterally looking for a hole? Come on

[Rutnstrut]

Fuck you, no one is buying a fucking car for Christmas.

[Maxie the Taxi]

well FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It'll get cold tomorrow. Mid-70's. hahaha

[red]

Fuck you, no one is buying a fucking car for Christmas.

rich people do

[red]

It'll get cold tomorrow. Mid-70's. hahaha

must be terrible for you

[beveaux1]

Daniels.

[red]

come on big mike, stomp on someone to get that 15 yard penalty to wipe out your nice play

[beveaux1]

3 and out.

[Rutnstrut]

rich people do

Rich people don't buy Buicks.

[pbmax]

Now THAT was a defensive series. Coverage and pressure.

[red]

blah

[Joemailman]

This game is making me nostalgic about those 1970's Bear/Packer games.

[pbmax]

World's most unnecessary block.

[Guiness]

He spits.

Spits out the gum on the field? Really? Need to watch for that.

Daniels sack leads to a stop, nice!

[Forerunner]

Now THAT was a defensive series. Coverage and pressure.

Promptly followed up with a penalty

[beveaux1]

Without a veteran QB on either team, this one could go either way. Home field usually prevails.

[TravisWilliams23]

World's most unnecessary block.

Yup.

[Guiness]

watching a stream that seems to be about a minute delayed, based on the posts here

[red]

omg, that was just stupid by the bears CB

[pbmax]

Jordy heard Rand mad at him last week about not drawing a PI flag.

[Maxie the Taxi]

What was the point of that?

[red]

now we're back to cobb running for nothing again?

[pbmax]

OK. Embrace the tank.

No legitimate offense runs the Wildcat anymore.

[Forerunner]

Our best play is tossing it down field and drawing pi

[beveaux1]

Throw up a prayer...and it's answered.

[pbmax]

Nice way to stand in and deliver.

[beveaux1]

Fake RB gets TD.

[Forerunner]

See what. Happens when Montgomery doesn't dance around waiting for holes and just hits them

[red]

td????????

was he even touched?

[Joemailman]

TD by the Fake RB!

[pbmax]

Monty is wearing stealth technology apparently!

Ripper and Jordy with blocks. Go white people! :lol:

[Maxie the Taxi]

This could be a blowout!

[mraynrand]

See what. Happens when Montgomery doesn't dance around waiting for holes and just hits them

helps if there's a hole

[Rutnstrut]

Fake RB gets TD.

ANYONE could have ran that in with the shitty gap responsibility by the Bears and the good blocking by GB.

[Forerunner]

Great block by jordy pb

[Joemailman]

OK. Embrace the tank.

No legitimate offense runs the Wildcat anymore.That was the Lamecat.

[Guiness]

Was that Nelson with the block in the hole? He should get credit for 3 of those points!

[red]

what i was trying to say, before i got interrupted by the TD was that it was a nice job of jordy to get open. but it took forever for him to get open

gotten get away from those slow developing plays that always plague us

[mraynrand]

Jordy heard Rand mad at him last week about not drawing a PI flag.

damn straight. Work to the ball through the defender. Force him to make contact if it's a shitty ball. And Hundley has some shitty balls.

[Joemailman]

ANYONE could have ran that in with the shitty gap responsibility by the Bears and the good blocking by GB.

So you're saying that good blocking helps the RB?

[Rutnstrut]

Was that Nelson with the block in the hole? He should get credit for 3 of those points!

Yup Jordy with a great block.

[mraynrand]

That was the Lamecat.

PUSSYCAT!

[woodbuck27]

watching a stream that seems to be about a minute delayed, based on the posts here

Yea sadly all I have is NFL.com.

The Packers are moving the ball right now... Ohh my gosh Ty Montgomery off left Tackle for 37 yard (Rush) and a TD !

[Rutnstrut]

So you're saying that good blocking helps the RB?

Some RB's like Monty NEED great blocking to do anything. Some RB's can exploit any small crease even with shitty blocking.

[red]

LOL

fuck our defense

[pbmax]

Ryan guessed wrong hole.

[red]

that should have been an easy flag

[Maxie the Taxi]

Fackrell just a second late getting home.

[red]

small hole in our zone

thats gotta be by design

[woodbuck27]

Whoops !hahaha

Have the 'D's on both teams stayed home today ?

The Bears are coming right back or so it seems.

[red]

Fackrell just a second late getting home.

is he the one that was falling on his face untouched in front of the QB?

[Guiness]

wow...

Announcers saying cover 2 - worst implementation ever

[Maxie the Taxi]

is he the one that was falling on his face untouched in front of the QB?Not that time. He was coming from the right side of the defense.

[pbmax]

That pass is why House got benched trying to play zone D. No depth in Cover 2 zone.

[red]

LOL

[beveaux1]

Screen works against us every time.

[red]

the ball came out of his hands before hitting the pylon

if he stayed in bounds, thats our ball at the 20

[Maxie the Taxi]

Wow. This could be a blowout!

[Guiness]

holy suckage

[Fritz]

Boy, the Packers' defense sucks.They didn't see that screen coming, reallY?

[woodbuck27]

a BIG Review here.

[beveaux1]

the ball came out of his hands before hitting the pylon

if he stayed in bounds, thats our ball at the 20

That's true.

[red]

Boy, the Packers' defense sucks.They didn't see that screen coming, reallY?

as soon as i saw the ILBs creeping back i knew we were screwed

OUR BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Da Bears! hahahahahahaha

[MadScientist]

Great challenge by the Bears!

[beveaux1]

Better to be lucky than good...and our D is not good.

[pbmax]

He wins another weird one. So ball out of hands before knee hits?

[Joemailman]

Great defense to force him to stay in bounds.

[red]

Great challenge by the Bears!

bears have no one to blame but themselves for that fuck up

[Cheesehead Craig]

Bear down!

[Maxie the Taxi]

Capers is a genius with that strategy!

[mraynrand]

Again, it looks like the Chicago offense knows exactly what the Packer defense is calling. That can't be luck, and with Trubisky it can't be so much adjustments. At least a significant contribution has to be that Capers' defense is predictable.

[red]

He wins another weird one. So ball out of hands before knee hits?

yup

[Fritz]

I am astounded by how bad this defense is. And Trubisky looks like a much better QB as a rookie than Hundley does as a third year pro.

[Guiness]

holy suckage

I stand by the fact that was suckage by the defense, saved by an act of <insert favorite diety>. Now, can someone please explain the rule that was just enacted?

[beveaux1]

bears have no one to blame but themselves for that fuck up

This really could be the most inept half of football by the Bears ever.

[pbmax]

I love prevailing on a technicality when it wasn't even the point of the appeal.

Maybe just replace the NFL with Court of Appeal hearings.

[TravisWilliams23]

What replay were the officials watching? Clearly OOB before the ball came loose.
Wow.

[ThunderDan]

Go pack go!

[ThunderDan]

Packer D saved by stupid Bears.

[mraynrand]

I love prevailing on a technicality when it wasn't even the point of the appeal.

Maybe just replace the NFL with Court of Appeal hearings.

careful what wish for when you hire a special prosecutor.

[red]

I am astounded by how bad this defense is. And Trubisky looks like a much better QB as a rookie than Hundley does as a third year pro.

both have played the same amount of games as a pro too

[Rutnstrut]

Run the fucking ball Hundley!!!!

[red]

careful what wish for when you hire a special prosecutor.

the truth?

[pbmax]

Two man routes are bad.

[beveaux1]

Hundley is as inept as the Bears.

[ThunderDan]

Come on guys, get a good chunk of yards here. Make the Bears O go the whole field again.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Run the fucking ball Hundley!!!!Are we sure Hundley's been on the bench watching Arod for three whole years?

[pbmax]

What replay were the officials watching? Clearly OOB before the ball came loose.
Wow.

The replay angel they showed out of the commercial break before Packers first play from the 20 (opposite sideline near or in end zone) showed ball loose just as knee hit).

Weird call but I think they got it right.

[woodbuck27]

If The Packers lose this game:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N6RB62gHO6U/hqdefault.jpg

Green Bay Packer BRASS.

[pbmax]

hundley is not seeing the field well. That was a blitz all the way and he never glanced at that side of field from shotgun.

[pbmax]

Cobb left at least five yards ungained there by cutting into midfield instead of following blockers.

[ThunderDan]

Not the punt we were looking for.

[beveaux1]

Perry!

[TravisWilliams23]

I wonder if MM knows he needs a time out to challenge a call.

[ThunderDan]

Trubiskiy looks horrible there.

[Rutnstrut]

Rodgers has to be better than anyone ever to be as good as he is AND make stubby look competent.

[beveaux1]

They held Matthews

[pbmax]

Nice underneath zone. Might have fooled them there.

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Clay whil3 being held.

[beveaux1]

Perry again!

[ThunderDan]

Clay be careful on hit as Perry was getting the sack.

[red]

was that 3 sack on that 3 and out?

brett 2 has a pick 6 in him before half

[pbmax]

Nice pass rush. Two guys get penetration, Perry is double teamed and is held back, waiting for QB to escape.

[Guiness]

Interesting thing I'm noticing...Packers are declining penalties resulting in the Bears having less downs instead of losing yards. IMO a vote of non-confidence in the D.

[Maxie the Taxi]

pb will finally get his wish. Hundley running the no huddle two minute offense. haha

[Tony Oday]

Monty is actually hitting holes and not dancing...its bizzaro world

[woodbuck27]

That was good 'D' by the Packers.

[ThunderDan]

Monty looking good so far relieving Jones.

[woodbuck27]

Interesting thing I'm noticing...Packers are declining penalties resulting in the Bears having less downs instead of losing yards. IMO a vote of non-confidence in the D.

:-)

[pbmax]

Don't like that second run.

[ThunderDan]

Ok, let’s get a first here and at least keep Chi from getting the ball before half.

[woodbuck27]

pb will finally get his wish. Hundley running the no huddle two minute offense. haha

Look out ! :whaa:

[Rutnstrut]

Monty looking good so far relieving Jones.

He actually is. Hopefully he continues and can go the game without getting hurt.

[beveaux1]

Interesting thing I'm noticing...Packers are declining penalties resulting in the Bears having less downs instead of losing yards. IMO a vote of non-confidence in the D.

Big difference between Stafford and Brees and the inexperienced Trubisky.

[red]

Ok, let’s get a first here and at least keep Chi from getting the ball before half.

think we'll actually try and trow it here?

[woodbuck27]

A Big 3rd down and short coming up after the Two Minute Warning.

[TravisWilliams23]

Hundley under center going hut-hut isn't quite the same as Arod getting a free play because of too many men on the field.

[pbmax]

Don't like that second run.

No blocking on it, it was draw/delayed, which brought safety down. They were five blockers on five defenders in box, but delay make in 5 on six.

Not sure that mattered as 5 didn't block first five. But should hit that quick.

[red]

jesus christ, that free D thing from nfl.com looks like early 2000's technology

[red]

thats fucking terrible

[ThunderDan]

Yeah, 3 linemen block 1 bear and let someone run free.

[pbmax]

pb will finally get his wish. Hundley running the no huddle two minute offense. haha

M3 doesn't agree. though I bet the second down was read pass option.

Evans blew blitz read. Hundley and Monty not seeing those at all.

[beveaux1]

Good punt that time.

[woodbuck27]

Ohh NOoooo !

Brett Hundley sacked and -12 yards....on a 3rd and short 2 yards for an important 1st down.

Packers to Punt.

[pbmax]

Stupid defense.

[ThunderDan]

Offsides Pack.

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Perry.

[woodbuck27]

Both Teams are 'a flubbing it'.

It's a battle of 'the Flubbers'.

[Guiness]

Brooks is playing?

[pbmax]

Brooks is playing?

Yep.

[Joemailman]

Long live The King!

[woodbuck27]

Packers with under 70 yards Passing in the 1st Half...Ouch !

[ThunderDan]

Dang 2 Packers almost got th3 int.

[pbmax]

I like King.

[ThunderDan]

That was obvious. 3 on 3 on that side with safety way off.

[woodbuck27]

A huge 3rd Down for the Bears right here.

[red]

hundley 8-12 for 86 yards in first half. 38 came on a 3 yard pass that cobb took the rest of the way

also playing in his 4th career game

trubisky is 11-16 for 151 yards and counting

[Guiness]

Bears are going to at least get a FG here :sad: SAD (channeling my inner Donald)

[pbmax]

False start just made teh FG very interesting. Not sure I like blitzing here. Play coverage and stop big gains make FG tough.

[woodbuck27]

Trubisky is a gamer.

[ThunderDan]

hundley 8-12 for 86 yards in first half. 38 came on a 3 yard pass that cobb took the rest of the way

also playing in his 4th career game

trubisky is 11-16 for 151 yards and counting

Not sure Hundley is to blame. MM needs to let the O run.

[beveaux1]

Tipped by Matthews

[pbmax]

Pressure worked there. Fackrell and Marty get some push.

[Rutnstrut]

I like King.

I think there is a lot of potential there. I hope they get someone other than Capers to bring it out.

[red]

Not sure Hundley is to blame. MM needs to let the O run.

mike getting out coached on offense by john fox

and i was trying to blame fat ass. hundley is his baby, and its his offense

[ThunderDan]

D keeps them from a TD.

[pbmax]

hate to burst bubbles but that Monty TD included a nice hesitation in the hole to let the block finish.