Obligatory Packers v Steelers Gameday Thread

[mraynrand]

Meh

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[mraynrand]

Is there a path to victory in this game? Could the lights turn on for Hundley, or will he be a deer in the Steeler headlights trying to guess which of the front seven will be coming? Will the Packers be able to run the ball at all? Will the defense get score on on every possession or force a punt. Will people be turning the thing off by the first quarter or the half?

[ND72]

It's so much easier to watch when you don't expect to win. When things go to crap, it's almost expected now instead of disappointment. Rams look pretty good though.

[Joemailman]

The only path is if the Steelers look past this game. Ben would have to play poorly for the Packers to have a chance.

[Teamcheez1]

This will be a great game to fall asleep to on the couch.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers throws on sidelines. http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2017/11/26/packers-qb-aaron-rodgers-throws-during-pre-game-warmups/

[pbmax]

Steelers have played poorly earlier this year. They aren't a juggernaut unless Brown and Bell get the ball in their hands at the second level. They could be stopped.

McCarthy will have had to adapt his offense to Hundley, who is still too slow going to his second and third post snap reads. It could happen.

As Rand has said, McCarthy usually lays off the stubbornness when their backs are against the wall. Its a road game in his hometown. I think M3 might throw the entire playbook out the window and run something from his Pitt days.

Packers stun the Steelers

27-26

[ND72]

Steelers have played poorly earlier this year. They aren't a juggernaut unless Brown and Bell get the ball in their hands at the second level. They could be stopped.

McCarthy will have had to adapt his offense to Hundley, who is still too slow going to his second and third post snap reads. It could happen.

As Rand has said, McCarthy usually lays off the stubbornness when their backs are against the wall. Its a road game in his hometown. I think M3 might throw the entire playbook out the window and run something from his Pitt days.

Packers stun the Steelers

27-26

You've had a full day of drinking. It'll be 28-3...at half time. Steelers walk.

[Teamcheez1]

Steelers have played poorly earlier this year. They aren't a juggernaut unless Brown and Bell get the ball in their hands at the second level. They could be stopped.

McCarthy will have had to adapt his offense to Hundley, who is still too slow going to his second and third post snap reads. It could happen.

As Rand has said, McCarthy usually lays off the stubbornness when their backs are against the wall. Its a road game in his hometown. I think M3 might throw the entire playbook out the window and run something from his Pitt days.

Packers stun the Steelers

27-26

Hanging out with Kendricks and Jones this weekend?

[pbmax]

You've had a full day of drinking. It'll be 28-3...at half time. Steelers walk.


Hanging out with Kendricks and Jones this weekend?

Nope and nope.

Its just no fun not rooting for them and having a little hope, as that noted orator Bud Selig once said.

Matthews, Monty, Jones and Clark are not active.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers inactives:

OLB Clay Matthews
RB Aaron Jones
RB Ty Montgomery
OG Lucas Patrick
CB Donatello Brown
NT Kenny Clark
OL Adam Pankey

[ND72]

I have a little hope. ;)

[pbmax]

You've had a full day of drinking. It'll be 28-3...at half time. Steelers walk.

Actually, I kinda expect the opposite. I think the Packers throw the kitchen sink at them. Use both challenges, an onside kick, punt reverse, fake FG and a Gritz Blitz before half. I expect it to be within reach at halftime.

Once the fireworks are over, it might get out of hand in the second half.

[red]

the good news is that everyone who knows football will be watching this game, and if we play the way we have the last few weeks, every single one of them will be talking about how TT, MM and DC are all shit and need to go

[red]

Actually, I kinda expect the opposite. I think the Packers throw the kitchen sink at them. Use both challenges, an onside kick, punt reverse, fake FG and a Gritz Blitz before half. I expect it to be within reach after halftime.

Once the fireworks are over, it might get out of hand in the second half.

i think the exact opposite, we are going to get blown away by brown early and often, the game will be lopsided by halftime. during the third quarter the steelers will put in their scrubs and we will score a couple of times with our starters to make it look a lot closer then it really will be

[pbmax]

the good news is that everyone who knows football will be watching this game, and if we play the way we have the last few weeks, every single one of them will be talking about how TT, MM and DC are all shit and need to go

People who know football have already spoken about this.

People who form an opinion on tonight are just TV viewers (and yes I mean Colin Cowherd) with overinflated opinions of themselves.

[beveaux1]

It's the 8-2 Steelers against the 1-4 Packers. Steelers are 14 point favorites, playing at home. I'll consider it a win if we stay in the game and lose by 14. This isn't a lot different than the Eagles playing the Bears at home.

I do think we'll play a much better game than last week. McCarthy's teams usually play well when they're not expected to.

[denverYooper]

Steelers have played poorly earlier this year. They aren't a juggernaut unless Brown and Bell get the ball in their hands at the second level. They could be stopped.

McCarthy will have had to adapt his offense to Hundley, who is still too slow going to his second and third post snap reads. It could happen.

As Rand has said, McCarthy usually lays off the stubbornness when their backs are against the wall. Its a road game in his hometown. I think M3 might throw the entire playbook out the window and run something from his Pitt days.

Packers stun the Steelers

27-26

Much better than I could have said it. I'll add that M3 is good for putting together at least one stunner gameplan per year. Maybe tonight is that night.

[denverYooper]

I expect at least one fake punt/FG

[mraynrand]

Steelers have played poorly earlier this year. They aren't a juggernaut unless Brown and Bell get the ball in their hands at the second level. They could be stopped.

McCarthy will have had to adapt his offense to Hundley, who is still too slow going to his second and third post snap reads. It could happen.

As Rand has said, McCarthy usually lays off the stubbornness when their backs are against the wall. Its a road game in his hometown. I think M3 might throw the entire playbook out the window and run something from his Pitt days.

Packers stun the Steelers

27-26

They have to be able to run the ball. With Mays a total mess, I wonder how they back up Williams. Maybe a little inverted wishbone and some fullback action. I think the speed of the LBs might render Cobb ineffective - still you'd like to see Hundley find the hot read if the Steelers bring pressure. He has to be able to do this and not give a ball to Shazier.

Defensively, Burnett and HCD have to make a play or two. They're not gonna get to Ben, so the secondary has to be solid. And frickin' tackle!

Go Pack!

[texaspackerbacker]

There seems to be lot of negativity tonight. I don't expect the Packers to be nearly as pathetic as some whiners in here are make them out to be. Predicting a win? that would be a stretch, but I wouldn't rule it out.

I predict our pass rush will actually be better without Clay. If we can get just a little bit of decent pass coverage, and if our O Line is just not quite as horrible as usual, it might happen.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This will be a great game to fall asleep to on the couch.

No way. Hundley coming out party. Fireworks. Really big Sheeeeeew.

The pack is back.

[pbmax]

They have to be able to run the ball. With Mays a total mess, I wonder how they back up Williams. Maybe a little inverted wishbone and some fullback action. I think the speed of the LBs might render Cobb ineffective - still you'd like to see Hundley find the hot read if the Steelers bring pressure. He has to be able to do this and not give a ball to Shazier.

Defensively, Burnett and HCD have to make a play or two. They're not gonna get to Ben, so the secondary has to be solid. And frickin' tackle!

Go Pack!

I wil allow one direct snap to Cobb but after that doesn't work, I don't want to see it again.

I would run Williams right at Shazier or send Ripper and Kerridge at him.

[pbmax]

No way. Hundley coming out party. Fireworks. Really big Sheeeeeew.

The pack is back.

Pack is Back is tainted beyond belief with years of false promise. Need new phrase for Packers as underdog.

How about "Watch out for your corn hole, bud"

[mraynrand]

I wil allow one direct snap to Cobb but after that doesn't work, I don't want to see it again.

I was kinda thinking Cobb underneath as the check down or hot read. Why he isn't more of an outlet, I don't fully know - but I suspect it's BH can't find him. But a least he should make himself a target in the middle, especially if they aren't running slants.

[pbmax]

Fuck you Hodge and your stupid fucking towel!

[pbmax]

I was kinda thinking Cobb underneath as the check down or hot read. Why he isn't more of an outlet, I don't fully know - but I suspect it's BH can't find him. But a least he should make himself a target in the middle, especially if they aren't running slants.

They leak out a TE first then RB to that spot.

[beveaux1]

What a start.

[red]

woooo

zook was feeling left out

fire zook too

[Rutnstrut]

Predictable defense.

[channtheman]

We gonna lose big

[pbmax]

#35 Jermaine Whitehead should be dropped in any of the three rivers immediately.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Well, that's it, I'm out

[pbmax]

Ryan very late but at least held on.

[pbmax]

KING! Well sorta him.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm only listening on radio, but the chatter here is really bringing game to life. Thanks all.

[beveaux1]

Great play by King.

[pbmax]

KING FOR REAL THAT TIME!

[red]

collingsworth creaming himself over king early

[Teamcheez1]

The defense is doing about what I expected. Stopping nothing.

[Rastak]

I'm only listening on radio, but the chatter here is really bringing game to life. Thanks all.


You probably don't care but you got me laughing over here blue dog.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Great play by House say Larry McCarren

[beveaux1]

Easier than taking candy from a baby.

[Cheesehead Craig]

At least that took a lot of clock.

[pbmax]

Packers still unsure how to defend the option.

[red]

some good, a lot bad with that first drive

the beginnings of a long night

[Teamcheez1]

We lead the league in our defense allowing opening drive TD's now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't care about anybody but #1, Rastak. Time to move to TV room and catch the action.

[Rutnstrut]

Packers still unsure how to defend the option.

Or anything.

[beveaux1]

NO pass rush the entire drive. Just stand back and throw. Reminds me of Prescott last year.

[pbmax]

Great play by House say Larry McCarren

He's drunk.

Did the Packers defer?

[red]

nice fucking hall of honor, it takes up a whole 10 foot wall

[red]

He's drunk.

Did the Packers defer?

probably

[Rastak]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - what the fuck!


Locked facemasks!

[mraynrand]

Collingsworth said the Packer defense was playing well of late. Geebus. Detroit, anyone?

[pbmax]

That's the Steelers I know and hate.

[red]

whoo hoo, 15 yards

gonna be the longest gain of the night for us

[beveaux1]

Williams runs hard.

[pbmax]

SPRIGGS™!

[red]

Collingsworth said the Packer defense was playing well of late. Geebus. Detroit, anyone?

they do look good when you compare them to our offense

[beveaux1]

He rolled left. What the...

[red]

3 runs, 1 pass

good ole stubby

[red]

He rolled left. What the...

they've been working on that one play all week

and a fumble

[ND72]

Maybe Capers can save some tape and learn how to run some blitz schemes.

[pbmax]

Ran himself to trouble again.

[beveaux1]

3 runs, 1 pass

good ole stubby

They have to do that. Can't put the game in Hundley's hands.

[pbmax]

3 runs, 1 pass

good ole stubby

Are you nuts? Do you want to pass a lot?

[ND72]

anyone else notice McCarthy has loved running these 5 yard stick routes that are NEVER open?

[red]

WTF?????????????

[beveaux1]

Cobb! TD!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Keep running that play!

[denverYooper]

When is the last time we've seen a wide open WR?

[red]

Are you nuts? Do you want to pass a lot?

if we run a lot we won't score anything

[Rutnstrut]

When is the last time we've seen a wide open WR?

2010

[pbmax]

Well hello Randall!

Brett2 moved into clean space in pocket, never betraying the O lineman who had defender tied up but penetrating and cobb found a hole n the zone (or blown coverage)

[beveaux1]

if we run a lot we won't score anything

Last week we passed a lot and didn't score anything.

[channtheman]

Refs giving us the game. NBC and the NFL want to make it close.

[denverYooper]

Ran himself to trouble again.

Small improvement though, no? Looked like he was looking to step up at first and got into trouble when the pocket was jammed.

[ND72]

someone go cut the power to pittsburgh now. we have a 1 point lead for the win.

[pbmax]

anyone else notice McCarthy has loved running these 5 yard stick routes that are NEVER open?

Yes. Its supposed to open up lane behind them, but no one is throwing to the intermediate/deep right middle now.

[Tony Oday]

Need the NFL Refs, Fox, NBC and whoever else will help the team Steelers helped that drive.

[pbmax]

someone go cut the power to pittsburgh now. we have a 1 point lead for the win.

How many innings until this is official?

Start the sprinklers.

[pbmax]

if we run a lot we won't score anything

based on first drive, I want to run so much the pass is a surprise to the secondary.

[ND72]

Yes. Its supposed to open up lane behind them, but no one is throwing to the intermediate/deep right middle now.

is anyone in the intermediate/deep to throw to? I only see all sticks, and all covered like a pig in mud.

[pbmax]

Its 7-6 Packers with 4 minutes left in 1 st Quarter. I declare victory in my close first half prediction.

[red]

king with a wiff

and i think he hurt himself

[red]

3 drops by the steelers

their trying to keep us in this

[pbmax]

Small improvement though, no? Looked like he was looking to step up at first and got into trouble when the pocket was jammed.

Maybe. Wasn't sure he couldn't step up.

[denverYooper]

Its 7-6 Packers with 4 minutes left in 1 st Quarter. I declare victory in my close first half prediction.

Need a Big Ben pick 6 and that starts looking pretty good.

[pbmax]

Need a Big Ben pick 6 and that starts looking pretty good.

Nearly had the pick.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Martinez has looked like best player on D

[pbmax]

King is out and Hawkins in at RCB.

[Rastak]

Need a Big Ben pick 6 and that starts looking pretty good.


You said what?

[red]

ankle biter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[beveaux1]

Randall!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Randall is balling!

[pbmax]

Need a Big Ben pick 6 and that starts looking pretty good.

Now you have frightened me :lol:

[Rutnstrut]

He's down.

[Bretsky]

ALL HAIL DOM CAPERS

[red]

King is out and Hawkins in at RCB.

it was very very quick, but it looked like he grabbed his shoulder or arm and looked at the sideline while he was on his knees after the wiff

[pbmax]

it was very very quick, but it looked like he grabbed his shoulder or arm and looked at the sideline while he was on his knees after the wiff

No mention on Twitter. Have they said anything on TV or radio?

[beveaux1]

We've had some improvement by Martinez, Randall, Clark, and even Ryan on defense this year. Fackrell has shown a flash in one game. Might be some improvement on D.

[red]

No mention on Twitter. Have they said anything on TV or radio?

no, they didn't even show a replay of it. i just saw it out of the corner of my eye after the play

i did think he was still in there for the next play though

[denverYooper]

Now you have frightened me :lol:

Late career Big Ben just gives me Favre flashbacks.

Unfortunately it didn't work out on the scoreboard yet but any stop is a good stop ;).

[Cheesehead Craig]

Run that play again!

[Harlan Huckleby]

domination!

[Rastak]

Dude has some burst....nice run.

[denverYooper]

Well looky here.

[ND72]

come on, I was planning to do the dishes and be in bed by 9. what the heck mccarthy.

[beveaux1]

Williams! Shows speed.

[pbmax]

Dear God Amighty!

Forget Pitt, this gameplan was from Sherman era! :lol:

[red]

WOW

very nice

was that a hold by us, or was the d-lineman trying to hook one of our o-lineman?

[Harlan Huckleby]

What is over/under for Hundley's QB rating tonight?

[pbmax]

And OPERATION NOMINAL!

[beveaux1]

What is over/under for Hundley's QB rating tonight?

40

[red]

Williams! Shows speed.

i did not think he had breakaway spped

[pbmax]

Late career Big Ben just gives me Favre flashbacks.

Unfortunately it didn't work out on the scoreboard yet but any stop is a good stop ;).

He definitely does. Especially since he has developed an interest in retirement speculation.

[red]

watch stubby go into full on run out the clock mode

[pbmax]

Maybe we should have been drafting more running backs?

Is bobblehead watching this?

[beveaux1]

Williams has looked good for 3 games. Maybe it's not a fluke.

[pbmax]

watch stubby go into full on run out the clock mode

4 minute offense in second quarter?

[pbmax]

Jermaine Whitehead must be replaced on kickoff coverage. He isn't where he is supposed to be and they are kicking it to his side of the field.

[beveaux1]

I saw a pass rush...on a screen pass.

[beveaux1]

Jermaine Whitehead must be replaced on kickoff coverage. He isn't where he is supposed to be and they are kicking it to his side of the field.

Hopefully someone upstairs is seeing it.

[mraynrand]

FYI: TJ Watt is faster than Cobb

[pbmax]

FYI: TJ Watt is faster than Cobb

Not enough to make a difference in pass coverage apparently.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just no pass rush

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is a very quiet crowd.

[pbmax]

Nice timing by Randall.

[pbmax]

Dix c'mon!

[pbmax]

FACKRELL!

[pbmax]

Hey, that's the Steeler punter!

[beveaux1]

A punt! Yes.

[pbmax]

red and I are not hallucinating. WesHod saw Hawkins out there too. No report yet.

[ThunderDan]

Go pack go!

Just finished my family birthday party. Not quite a round birthday.

If this stands it would be a heck of a birthday present.

[pbmax]

Mike Heller‏ @HellerSports
Steelers are dropping balls like Martellus Bennett

[mraynrand]

Dix c'mon!

That was Bell. Guy is fantastic.

[beveaux1]

Bad series.

[ThunderDan]

Mike Heller‏ @HellerSports
Steelers are dropping balls like Martellus Bennett
Fuck Heller, I worked with him in the golf industry. Total sack of crap.

[mraynrand]

Packers keep dropping d-backs and coverages deep and the underneath will be wide open for Bell.

[red]

one of our guys just got destroyed on that return

[pbmax]

That was Bell. Guy is fantastic.

Yeah, but at least touch him.

There were 18 flags on that punt return.

[pbmax]

Fuck Heller, I worked with him in the golf industry. Total sack of crap.

Really? Never much liked his radio show but he seemed to be making it work.

Happy birthday btw.

[ND72]

one of our guys just got destroyed on that return

There were like 3 that got destroyed.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Martinez looks like all pro

[red]

well that defense doesn't work

[Rutnstrut]

I'm surprised that sux dix tackled.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Who wasn't open on that play?

[pbmax]

Surprised Dix caught Brown.

[ND72]

good defense.

[red]

well that looked easy

[ThunderDan]

Really? Never much liked his radio show but he seemed to be making it work.

Happy birthday btw.

I like his radio show. I will never believe what he tells me again. He can’t be trusted.

[beveaux1]

Well. Hawkins was toast.

[Harlan Huckleby]

2-pt in first half?

[Cheesehead Craig]

What the hell Ryan?

[red]

way to fight for that ball haha

[ND72]

Clinton Dix without a single clue if he's in Pittsburgh or Gettysburg at this point.

[Teamcheez1]

Steelers should put up around 35-42 points today.

[pbmax]

I like his radio show. I will never believe what he tells me again. He can’t be trusted.

Well, he is a sales guy as well. :D

[beveaux1]

Tie, tie, all tie.

[pbmax]

That Brown catch and run came after some actual pass pressure caused Big Ben to have to move. Usually get better result.

[ND72]

I got a new jingle for Payton Manning... Why can't we stop a team? (nation wide is on your side...)

[pbmax]

Davis cannot stop and juke to save his life. Either get to the edge, cut back or go straight ahead.

[beveaux1]

The long pass may not be Williams forte.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hit him in bad place - his hands

[pbmax]

That would have been nice to complete.

Should have been. Off both hands.

[ThunderDan]

Well at least we are tied!

[channtheman]

I think our offense will run out of luck now. Game is close enough for NFL and NBC to keep viewers into third quarter.

[Bretsky]

It never seems like our WR's get open like the other teams WR's do

[Bossman641]

McCray out again

[pbmax]

They got a terrible mark and its still a first.

Spriggs has got to play stronger.

Davis on end around.

[ND72]

It never seems like our WR's get open like the other teams WR's do

Been that way for years.

[ThunderDan]

That end around by Davis turned our better than I thought.

[ND72]

It never seems like our WR's get open like the other teams WR's do

Been that way for years.

[pbmax]

Williams is Edgar. Tackled by his shoestrings when open field is everywhere.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Thai was a dumb play

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm sure that call will be popular here

[Bossman641]

That cobb toss is garbage

[Teamcheez1]

Stupid play call.

[pbmax]

Dumbest play call of the night.

[ThunderDan]

God I hate that shit run to Cobb. Give it to Williams and let him pound it.

[ND72]

i hate mccarthy.

[pbmax]

Block in the back right in front of ref.

They should have gone for it on 4th and 1.

[Rutnstrut]

Dumbest play call of the night.

That's stubby though. Short yardage never go with what works. He has to try and get cute.

[ND72]

Block in the back right in front of ref.

They should have gone for it on 4th and 1.

Thank you, wasn't just me who saw that.

[Teamcheez1]

i hate mccarthy.

He gets too cute with the stupid play calls that do not work.

[Bretsky]

Been that way for years.


Who is our last WR to just consistently get open and beat a guy off the snap like Brown..............Greg Jennings ?

[pbmax]

I'm sure that call will be popular here

Maybe if Bach gets that block it works but Cobb isn't big and there were two other guys there.

[ND72]

Who is our last WR to just consistently get open and beat a guy off the snap like Brown..............Greg Jennings ?

Yes.

[pbmax]

Who is our last WR to just consistently get open and beat a guy off the snap like Brown..............Greg Jennings ?

Jordy and Jones. Just got old.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Block in the back right in front of ref.

They should have gone for it on 4th and 1.

Is the Packer D that bad?

[KalamazooPackerFan]

I wasn't even going to log in but had yo add tot he chorus.......WTF is McCarthy thinking calling that to Cobb? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

[mraynrand]

God I hate that shit run to Cobb. Give it to Williams and let him pound it.

line blocking was atrocious on that play. better off with inverted wishbone and play-action to Adams.

[beveaux1]

Maybe if Bach gets that block it works but Cobb isn't big and there were two other guys there.

Maybe if the receiver was Williams, it would have a chance.

[Patler]

McCray out again

McCray was announced as the starter, but Spriggs was in on the first paly from scrimmage, and I think has played the whole game, so far.

[pbmax]

There is some pass rush tonight.

[pbmax]

McCray was announced as the starter, but Spriggs was in on the first paly from scrimmage, and I think has played the whole game, so far.

Yep. I saw him on first drive.

[ND72]

There is some pass rush tonight.

zero sacks, and every "rush" has turned into large gains.

[ThunderDan]

We are actually getting pressure on pass plays.

#thingsaretrendingup

[pbmax]

Is the Packer D that bad?

Not exactly. But you need leverage to help the offense. 4th and 1 with Williams is doable.

[pbmax]

zero sacks, and every "rush" has turned into large gains.

First two times were incompletions (OK one drop). But moving the QB is good for the D.

[ZachMN]

Our defense is ridiculous. No pass rush ever. Bad tackling. bad leverage. and how is that opposing defenses get in our backfield immediately and we just bullrush and the qb steps up and picks us apart or runs free for a first down. And I agree with the cutesy play calling on M3- just pound it for gods sake. Any offense should be able to get a yard for christs sake. Do it fast no huddle have a damn code word so the d can't set.

[TravisWilliams23]

Not exactly. But you need leverage to help the offense. 4th and 1 with Williams is doable.

So was 3rd and 1 but Stubby had to be Stubby.

[mraynrand]

zero sacks, and every "rush" has turned into large gains.

just can't bring the blitz - Ben eats that up like Rodgers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Not exactly. But you need leverage to help the offense. 4th and 1 with Williams is doable.

Nah, Cobb up the gut is the ticket

[beveaux1]

Not exactly. But you need leverage to help the offense. 4th and 1 with Williams is doable.

I can't remember a play in the last three games in which Williams lost yardage. He usually falls forward.

[mraynrand]

Our defense is ridiculous. No pass rush ever. Bad tackling. bad leverage. and how is that opposing defenses get in our backfield immediately and we just bullrush and the qb steps up and picks us apart or runs free for a first down. And I agree with the cutesy play calling on M3- just pound it for gods sake. Any offense should be able to get a yard for christs sake. Do it fast no huddle have a damn code word so the d can't set.

I vote "Stubby" for the code word

[Bretsky]

Jordy and Jones. Just got old.

I'll give you Jordy a couple years ago

But Jones was not a stellar route runner who beat guys off the LOS. He was better than most #3 or #4 CB's though. When he left Rodgers he was invisible

[pbmax]

So was 3rd and 1 but Stubby had to be Stubby.

To be fair, they were deeper in their own territory than I thought.

[mraynrand]

I can't remember a play in the last three games in which Williams lost yardage. He usually falls forward.

he prefers 'dive' forward.

[Harlan Huckleby]

jeez, no rush

[ZachMN]

there ya go----- Rothlesberger for what? 14 yards? ridiculous

[Guiness]

Thank you, wasn't just me who saw that.

Was yelling at the TV too - was really obvious on the telecast.

[pbmax]

I'll give you Jordy a couple years ago

But Jones was not a stellar route runner who beat guys off the LOS. He was better than most #3 or #4 CB's though. When he left Rodgers he was invisible

jones, before Jordy's breakout season, was always open on a 9 route. He did it by bodying the DB. Doesn't have to be speed that gets you open.

He often then dropped the over the shoulder pass.

[Bretsky]

Spriggs sucks

[pbmax]

Anyone notice all the slipping? Same field as Packers I believe.

[ZachMN]

the d never tries to stunt or stagger the rush criss crossing guys....

[mraynrand]

nice tackle by Burnett

[Bretsky]

Morgan Burnett is very strong; I like our safeties

[Bossman641]

Finally a third down stop

[beveaux1]

Better lucky than good.

[ND72]

5'8" Hawkins on 6'5" Bryant doesn't seem to be a good fit the rest of the game for us.

[pbmax]

Love the defense House!!

[mraynrand]

nice grab by House

[Bretsky]

everybody whines about interference these days

[ThunderDan]

Good job D.

Just run the clock and go in tied at half.

[mraynrand]

5'8" Hawkins on 6'5" Bryant doesn't seem to be a good fit the rest of the game for us.

what else ya got? Pipkins?

[mraynrand]

everybody whines about interference these days

it's what we do

[ThunderDan]

Ok, go hurry up.

[Bossman641]

Just go into half with the tie

[pbmax]

the d never tries to stunt or stagger the rush criss crossing guys....

Seriously? Have you not watched them this year?

They have obviously decided that regular blitzing of BR is not to their advantage. Normally they stunt AND blitz ALL THE TIME

[ZachMN]

I like this running back.

[mraynrand]

Just go into half with the tie

dangerous territory, but Stubby needs to show confidence.

[Guiness]

I'll give you Jordy a couple years ago

But Jones was not a stellar route runner who beat guys off the LOS. He was better than most #3 or #4 CB's though. When he left Rodgers he was invisible

And he was strong in his later years. When the Pack brought him back the year Nelson went down he really muscled a lot of balls away from DBs.

[ND72]

what else ya got? Pipkins?

Didn't say I had a solution to it, just stating I'm betting we'll see more throws that way.

[pbmax]

Cut that back Jamaal!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

a pro team afraid to launch a long pass?

[KalamazooPackerFan]

Chickenshit. Had two positive plays and than sits the team down.

[mraynrand]

Didn't say I had a solution to it, just stating I'm betting we'll see more throws that way.

likely

[pbmax]

Actually, I kinda expect the opposite. I think the Packers throw the kitchen sink at them. Use both challenges, an onside kick, punt reverse, fake FG and a Gritz Blitz before half. I expect it to be within reach at halftime.

Once the fireworks are over, it might get out of hand in the second half.

Called the first half!!!

Let's hope I am wrong about the second! Odds should be good.

[ZachMN]

Seriously? Have you not watched them this year?

They have obviously decided that regular blitzing of BR is not to their advantage. Normally they stunt AND blitz ALL THE TIME

Really? When have they done it tonight? I don't understand your defense of this defense. Seriously. They are terrible.

[Rutnstrut]

I like this running back.

Yeah he would have been great at 3rd and 1. But dumbass stubby HAS to fuck things up. It's like he can't stand to have success any way but his way.

[pbmax]

likely

Pipkins is available. No Donatello Brown though.

[mraynrand]

Called the first half!!!

Let's hope I am wrong about the second! Odds should be good.

I must have fallen asleep. I missed the fake FG and onside kick.

[The Shadow]

They have already exceeded my expectations.

[mraynrand]

Really? When have they done it tonight? I don't understand your defense of this defense. Seriously. They are terrible.

they NORMALLY do it. Not tonight - Ben will devour that secondary.

[beveaux1]

Actually, I kinda expect the opposite. I think the Packers throw the kitchen sink at them. Use both challenges, an onside kick, punt reverse, fake FG and a Gritz Blitz before half. I expect it to be within reach at halftime.

Once the fireworks are over, it might get out of hand in the second half.

I think you might be a prophet.

[pbmax]

Really? When have they done it tonight? I don't understand your defense of this defense. Seriously. They are terrible.

They haven't blitzed much tonight. Maybe 6 plays. But they normally do it a ton plus stunts.

Means they don't think that is the way to defend this offense.

[pbmax]

I must have fallen asleep. I missed the fake FG and onside kick.

It was an exciting first drive.

[pbmax]

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