More Banjo: Week 12 @ Pittsburgh

[pbmax]

Remember, this Packers team is no more talented than the Browns. Don't let the 3 point point differential/road loss fool you into thinking different.

[Rutnstrut]

In the end poor decisions by stubby in key moments lost this game.

[mraynrand]

In the end poor decisions by stubby in key moments lost this game.

strange, I thought it was just better play by Pittsburgh's money men.

[mraynrand]

Remember, this Packers team is no more talented than the Browns. Don't let the 3 point point differential/road loss fool you into thinking different.

well, we get to test this directly pretty soon. I'm still keeping the grocery bag handy.

[George Cumby]

One play here or there and we’re all on cloud 9. There’s no moral victories in football but this comes pretty damn close.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm a little bit surprised that I haven't seen any comments in here about the no-call of helmet to helmet by Watt on Hundley. It should have been called, and that penalty woulda made a lot of difference.

[call_me_ishmael]

Steelers did everything they could to not win the game. They played well when it mattered and won. Wow is Antonio Brown good. He is like a super great Greg Jennings.

[mraynrand]

I'm a little bit surprised that I haven't seen any comments in here about the no-call of helmet to helmet by Watt on Hundley. It should have been called, and that penalty woulda made a lot of difference.

it was huge. But it was Stubby's fault.

[texaspackerbacker]

it was huge. But it was Stubby's fault.

How so?

[ThunderDan]

How so?

Sarcasm.

[bobblehead]

I'm a little bit surprised that I haven't seen any comments in here about the no-call of helmet to helmet by Watt on Hundley. It should have been called, and that penalty woulda made a lot of difference.

I understand that gets called often, but if my OLB hit the QBs helmet when he ducked down and we lost a game on a flag I would be livid.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers @packers
McCarthy: Our guys battled, they fought. Fully confident we were going to come in here & get the win. Came up short. #GBvsPIT

Green Bay Packers @packers
McCarthy: This team has great fight. They work hard. We need to win. We've got six losses now. It's about beating Tampa Bay.

Green Bay Packers @packers
McCarthy on @bretthundley7: Those are all the steps you look for in your young QB. Thought he did a good job in key spots. Good football. Thought he did a heck of a job tonight. #GBvsPIT

[mraynrand]

I understand that gets called often, but if my OLB hit the QBs helmet when he ducked down and we lost a game on a flag I would be livid.

so would I. You're not supposed to lead with the crown of your helmet.

[pbmax]

I have nothing official but I think House came out of the game near the end and was replaced by Hawkins.

King and Randall returned. Burnett seemed to make it through. I did not see any other injuries.

McCray was a late scratch after looking like he might play. Spriggs got the call and was not great but also not quite a tire fire. He needs reps to get timing down. On one run play, he was looking for the snap as they do on the road in shotgun and he glanced to read the position of the defender. He turned his head back just in the to be a fraction late off the ball and got beat inside. His defender was blocked, but into the hole and his guy helped secure the tackle of Williams.

[call_me_ishmael]

I understand that gets called often, but if my OLB hit the QBs helmet when he ducked down and we lost a game on a flag I would be livid.

Agreed. It's not like he was standing still in the pocket and Watt just laid into it. It appeared 100% accidental and 50/50 on the blame.

[Joemailman]

Agreed. It's not like he was standing still in the pocket and Watt just laid into it. It appeared 100% accidental and 50/50 on the blame.

Perhaps, but I've seen penalties called for blow to the head where a defenders hand barely grazed the QB's helmet.

[Zool]

You can’t even hit a QB in the head with your hand by rule until he is a runner. I don’t know if he was considered a runner at he point he was hit but in the end it didn’t matter. Brown is a man among boys vis a vie the packers secondary.

[mraynrand]

You can’t even hit a QB in the head with your hand by rule until he is a runner. I don’t know if he was considered a runner at he point he was hit but in the end it didn’t matter. Brown is a man among boys vis a vie the packers secondary.

Brown is fantastic, but I saw the Packers secondary make some plays too.

[RashanGary]

Hundley looked ok. Maybe next year he could be a .500 QB, which would be enough to lose Rodgers for 6 or 8 games and still make the playoffs.

Adams is 300 yards away from 1,000. He’s about to earn himself a big pay day. If he can do this with Hundley, he’s gonna get paid.

[pbmax]

They either didn't see it (hard to believe) or ruled him a runner.

[pbmax]

Wow.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
Hell of an answer from #Packers LT David Bakhtiari about the #Steelers pass rush: "I never saw (Bud) Dupree, I just saw (T.J.) Watt. On that end, I’m happy that we took (Vince) Biegel to be honest. I’m very happy that we ended up getting (Kevin) King and took Biegel."

Watt must have insulted his parents. Or maybe some sort of Rodgers/Watt championship belt beef continuing?

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers LT David Bakhtiari got stitches on his right thumb at some point during the game. It was still bloody in the locker room. Shouldn't be a problem moving forward though.

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers @packers
Brett Hundley after #GBvsPIT: I love my teammates. I've had so much support from them. That's why it hurts. I’m just trying to make sure we have an opportunity to win & that I play my best for them.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers RB Jamaal Williams on his TD reception: "Oh shoot, I give all thanks to Corey (Linsley) because without him blocking old boy, I definitely would not have got out of there. But as soon as he got that block and I seen some field, I was like, ‘I ain’t getting caught.'"

TYPO? TRANSCRIPT ERROR? HAS TO BE OH BOY, DOESN'T IT?

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Brett Hundley is out here going toe-to-toe with Ben Roethlisberger on a national stage in a hostile environment. Whatever happens tonight, this is impressive. They’re doing something right in Green Bay.

NO IAN, JORDY NELSON'S LACK OF PRODUCTION INDICATES THAT THE PACKERS ARE ALL STUPID

[Pugger]

They either didn't see it (hard to believe) or ruled him a runner.

I don't know if they saw it because you're not supposed to hit runners helmet to helmet either.

[ThunderDan]

They either didn't see it (hard to believe) or ruled him a runner.

McCarthy said in presser that blow to the head screwed up the Packers 2 minute offense. Wasn’t sure what Hundley could do after the hit. Was checking to make sure he was ok. Ran play clock down to almost zero before next snap.

[pbmax]

I recommend you all spend some time tomorrow reading up on the failed Greg Schiano deal on a contract to coach the Tennessee Volunteers football team.

Its playing out like its the Internet Mob versus very serious media types+Tennessee AD+Greg Schiano. Pat Forde said the inmates are running the asylum.

This is good enough theatre. But the real treat is that Forde and others have been shaken so hard by breaking developments that they have forgotten a rule that even they are capable of understanding about College Football. Money talks and money apparently balked at Schiano's hiring.

[mraynrand]

I recommend you all spend some time tomorrow reading up on the failed Greg Schiano deal on a contract to coach the Tennessee Volunteers football team.

" In a deposition, former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary said he was told by another assistant coach, Tom Bradley, that Schiano had told Bradley that he had seen Sandusky “doing something” with a boy in a shower."

hearsay two times removed of a possible witness to child molestation should be sufficient to end any career. The real question is whether Ohio State can allow this monstrous possible witness to molestation backs on campus. (the answer is NO FUCKING WAY!). Have a moving company (wearing gloves) load this pervert's office into a container truck and have a deaf mute drive it to a secure location. Mail the location to Schiano in an envelope with no return address. Fumigate his office and/or demolish the building and incinerate the rubble.

[Smidgeon]

I understand that gets called often, but if my OLB hit the QBs helmet when he ducked down and we lost a game on a flag I would be livid.

When inadvertent hands to the helmet get called, you bet I'm expecting helmet to helmet being called.

[mraynrand]

When inadvertent hands to the helmet get called, you bet I'm expecting helmet to helmet being called.

?

[pbmax]

" In a deposition, former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary said he was told by another assistant coach, Tom Bradley, that Schiano had told Bradley that he had seen Sandusky “doing something” with a boy in a shower."

hearsay two times removed of a possible witness to child molestation should be sufficient to end any career. The real question is whether Ohio State can allow this monstrous possible witness to molestation backs on campus. (the answer is NO FUCKING WAY!). Have a moving company (wearing gloves) load this pervert's office into a container truck and have a deaf mute drive it to a secure location. Mail the location to Schiano in an envelope with no return address. Fumigate his office and/or demolish the building and incinerate the rubble.

Gonna reply in the Badger forum.

[denverYooper]

?

Lowry's hit from the previous week?

[mraynrand]

Lowry's hit from the previous week?

i get it now....

[Teamcheez1]

I agree with this summary of the game (not from me):

But I wouldn’t say that the Packers lost despite a great BH performance – I would say that while he had his best game, he still made a lot of mistakes and was part of the reason that the Packers won the turnover battle 3-0 but somehow still lost the game. Too many really short drives. A few really bad throws to open receivers. Second-half sacks due to bad old habits. (An egregious, but unflagged helmet-to-helmet hit on the QB by Watt didn’t help – I can’t believe BH wasn’t concussed on that play.) And a defense missing Clark and Matthews and, for a while, Randall, that eventually succumbed to Antonio Brown and LeVeon Bell, especially Bell. Bell ate them alive in the 2nd half, one dump-off after another. Despite having three drives ended by turnovers, Pittsburgh still won the time-of-possession "battle" by 7 minutes.

The Steelers once again played down to the level of their competition, made a game out what should have been a blowout, and got away with it.

[ND72]

Saw the officials both said they were "shielded from view" of the helmet to helmet hit. One of the local radio guys here said, you didn't need to see it, it was heard so badly, Pepper Burress was looking away from the field at the moment of impact and new what just happened. That's terrible officiating. A pinky brushes the helmet of Tom Brady and you get a flag, but obvious helmet to helmet, which a year ago gets Watt ejected, no call.

I've seen and heard people say "Hundley was ok"....kidding me? 134.8 passer rating, 3TD, 0 INT. That's just OK? People want him to fail so badly it's stupid. There were at least 6 other teams that wished they had Brett Hundley's 134.8 passer rating from their QB yesterday. Hundley played fantastic.

Stubby, again, with some questionable, stupid play calls that will never lead to anyone having success, was the problem. Our own lack of pass rush, and lack of talent in the DBackfield, was a problem. I know our DB's played decent, but again hearing press conferences, 2 of the steelers touchdowns were incorrect coverages, blown first by Dix, and second by Burnett. Just never ends.

[mraynrand]

^^ reasonable. Dix is having an awful year. Is it him, coaching, injury or all of above?

Randall's progression is really unexpected. Think about how how down and out he was at one point. Gotta at least give coaches some credit for sticking with him and getting him back into shape.

[texaspackerbacker]

I've been saying all along that Hundley is at very least decent. He did what he did with better than usual O Line play, but still way below average for the league - he got the same thing Aaron Rodgers has had to live with for years. It would be so nice if our QB could have the time that Roethlisberger or Brady or Brees or a lot of others get routinely.

I'm about ready to label Clinton-Dix as crap - he's been pretty consistent that way this season. Randall seems much improved, but I see him as a risk-taker (for better or worse) who will make big plays but also get beat sometimes. King seems just the opposite - steady but not much in the line of big plays, for this year anyway.

I think our lack of pass rush was more a matter of them having a decent O Line than badness on our part. You could see the burst of our guys, but they got blocked just enough to come close and not get the QB.

Jamal Williams woulda been the player of the game (other than Hundley) if we had won. That kid looks damn good going forward - he and Aaron Jones, and I still think Mays is more like he showed in the preseason and not like last week.

[Teamcheez1]

I guess Mays must officially be in the dog house. He didn't even get one carry after the two fumbles last week.

Also, our the TE's no longer part of the game plan, or only there to block? Rodgers did have one nice catch, but that makes three total catches for Kendricks/Rodgers the last two games. It would seem they could at least be a safety valve sitting down in a route 5 yards down the field.

[call_me_ishmael]

I am pretty sure that was the fastest Richard Rodgers has ever run :-D

[mraynrand]

Jamal Williams woulda been the player of the game (other than Hundley) if we had won. That kid looks damn good going forward - he and Aaron Jones, and I still think Mays is more like he showed in the preseason and not like last week.

The O-line (see: scheme) was blocking well for him. Would have been nice had he pulled in that sideline pass, but he does OK in pass catching.

[mraynrand]

Also, our the TE's no longer part of the game plan, or only there to block?

And sometimes not even that. But Rodgers had a couple of nice seal blocks that I saw.

[Smidgeon]

Saw the officials both said they were "shielded from view" of the helmet to helmet hit. One of the local radio guys here said, you didn't need to see it, it was heard so badly, Pepper Burress was looking away from the field at the moment of impact and new what just happened. That's terrible officiating. A pinky brushes the helmet of Tom Brady and you get a flag, but obvious helmet to helmet, which a year ago gets Watt ejected, no call.

I've seen and heard people say "Hundley was ok"....kidding me? 134.8 passer rating, 3TD, 0 INT. That's just OK? People want him to fail so badly it's stupid. There were at least 6 other teams that wished they had Brett Hundley's 134.8 passer rating from their QB yesterday. Hundley played fantastic.

Stubby, again, with some questionable, stupid play calls that will never lead to anyone having success, was the problem. Our own lack of pass rush, and lack of talent in the DBackfield, was a problem. I know our DB's played decent, but again hearing press conferences, 2 of the steelers touchdowns were incorrect coverages, blown first by Dix, and second by Burnett. Just never ends.

And that was against the #2 scoring D in the league this year.

Honestly, I didn't feel like the Packers were a sieve like they were with the Falcons last year in the playoffs. They weren't giving up routine passes like in the past, but Antonio Brown made some phenomenal catches against tight coverage.

As much as people want to complain, this is not the defense of 2011. It has progressively gotten better.

I'm hoping the strategy of selecting DBs over LBs pays off though. It seems TT collects the DBs and the Steelers collect the LBs.

[ThunderDan]

I guess Mays must officially be in the dog house. He didn't even get one carry after the two fumbles last week.

Also, our the TE's no longer part of the game plan, or only there to block? Rodgers did have one nice catch, but that makes three total catches for Kendricks/Rodgers the last two games. It would seem they could at least be a safety valve sitting down in a route 5 yards down the field.

There was one play that I remember that Hundley took a sack and the TE was running a shallow crossing route. He was a good 3 yards ahead of the LB but Hundley would have had to throw the ball across his body. Also wondering if his feet weren't set at that point. But Hundley did have a dump off if he had been able to get rid of the ball.

[Guiness]

I understand that gets called often, but if my OLB hit the QBs helmet when he ducked down and we lost a game on a flag I would be livid.

Exactly, and it seems to me the Pack has been penalized for a hand.

[pbmax]

The problem with Williams is that if you block 3 yards, he gets 3.5. If you block 5, he gets 5.5. If you block 15, he gets 7. The better you block the worse the pickup rate.

The lack of takeoff speed is evident every time he had downfield space and got caught by his shoelaces. Had to happen at least 3 times with yardage ahead.

But this isn't an issue because he can be your banger AND catch passes, which makes for some fun heavy packages. And when you want to break one, you have Jones or Mays. Plus Ripper can run, block and catch. Its seriously an overstuffed position now, if people could remain healthy and non fumbling.

[pbmax]

ND72 asked why so many stick routes for the Packers. I think there are a couple of reasons, its one of their run/pass options being the obvious one. But I also think its the design of the offense to get vertical levels working against the defense, which for McCarthy opens up the deeper passing game.

This video actually covers a hook route at 10 yards by the TE. Stick route is normally shorter. But its effect is similar. It stars Mooch at Stanford.

Chris Brown covers the history of this play and how Spurrier, the West Coast Offense and Brett Favre combined to help popularize the 3rd option on this play, the post. http://smartfootball.com/offense/the-science-of-the-post-going-deep-with-mills#sthash.9cttcyzy.dpbs



https://player.vimeo.com/video/242619434

[Pugger]

The problem with Williams is that if you block 3 yards, he gets 3.5. If you block 5, he gets 5.5. If you block 15, he gets 7. The better you block the worse the pickup rate.

The lack of takeoff speed is evident every time he had downfield space and got caught by his shoelaces. Had to happen at least 3 times with yardage ahead.

But this isn't an issue because he can be your banger AND catch passes, which makes for some fun heavy packages. And when you want to break one, you have Jones or Mays. Plus Ripper can run, block and catch. Its seriously an overstuffed position now, if people could remain healthy and non fumbling.

With him, Jones and Ty back next year we might have a pretty nice stable of RBs.

[Smidgeon]

The problem with Williams is that if you block 3 yards, he gets 3.5. If you block 5, he gets 5.5. If you block 15, he gets 7. The better you block the worse the pickup rate.

The lack of takeoff speed is evident every time he had downfield space and got caught by his shoelaces. Had to happen at least 3 times with yardage ahead.

But this isn't an issue because he can be your banger AND catch passes, which makes for some fun heavy packages. And when you want to break one, you have Jones or Mays. Plus Ripper can run, block and catch. Its seriously an overstuffed position now, if people could remain healthy and non fumbling.

Any evidence Mays is any good yet?

[pbmax]

Any evidence Mays is any good yet?

He looked pretty lively in preseason but is probably the worst pass blocker of the rooks. But nothing substantial yet about translating athletic talent to the field.

[pbmax]

You knew this was coming: McCarthy Says FG Was Right Decision


"We had a mark for going north and south," McCarthy said of Crosby's range, via the Green Bay Press-Gazette. "That was right on the fringe. I obviously have a lot of faith and trust in Mason."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000883911/article/mike-mccarthy-right-decision-to-attempt-57yard-fg?campaign=Twitter_atn

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I thought the game was perfect, the packers were competitive, it was an enjoyable game to watch, and yet they still lost to help our chances for a superbowl run next year. On a different note, I would give my left nut to see the badgers beat ohio state this weekend. I know, I know, take it to the badgers forum.

[Bossman641]

There was one play that I remember that Hundley took a sack and the TE was running a shallow crossing route. He was a good 3 yards ahead of the LB but Hundley would have had to throw the ball across his body. Also wondering if his feet weren't set at that point. But Hundley did have a dump off if he had been able to get rid of the ball.

Pretty sure I'm thinking of the same play. Hundley was rolling left and had I think Rodgers rolling along with him.

[Bossman641]

The problem with Williams is that if you block 3 yards, he gets 3.5. If you block 5, he gets 5.5. If you block 15, he gets 7. The better you block the worse the pickup rate.

The lack of takeoff speed is evident every time he had downfield space and got caught by his shoelaces. Had to happen at least 3 times with yardage ahead.

But this isn't an issue because he can be your banger AND catch passes, which makes for some fun heavy packages. And when you want to break one, you have Jones or Mays. Plus Ripper can run, block and catch. Its seriously an overstuffed position now, if people could remain healthy and non fumbling.

Agreed, there were a good 3-4 plays where Williams was a half step from picking up an additional 10+ yards. If he could pick up that extra half step (either through training or better recognition) he'd be a heck of a lot more dangerous. At the very least though he's a slasher who should be a good short down back.

[pbmax]

Packer Report @PackerReport
"We'll see," McCarthy says of Rodgers practicing on Saturday. That'd be his first opportunity.

Packer Report‏ @PackerReport
McCarthy says Rodgers is "knocking it out of the park" but won't go into any decision (or how it'll be made) for this week.

Packer Report @PackerReport
Spriggs will be the right tackle going forward, McCarthy says. Allows McCray to focus on utility role.

Packer Report @PackerReport
Jamaal Williams playing well in all phases - running, receiving and blocking - McCarthy says.

Packer Report @PackerReport
"Definitely," McCarthy says of the 57-yard FG being the right decision. Doesn't understand criticism (cue the fans in three, two, one ...)

Packer Report @PackerReport
And he'd make same decision again. Needed points with Steelers' offensive firepower.

Packer Report @PackerReport
Hundley's improvement: Decision-making stood out, MM says. Avoided critical errors that could have changed the game. Managed game, noise, communication issues.

Packer Report @PackerReport
Crosby's pregame workout showed that the 57-yarder was in his range. "You've got to have points and he's got to hit it," Zook says.

[Pugger]

Spriggs must have played well. I don't recall hearing his name mentioned by the zebras at all and didn't realize for quite a while that he replaced McCray last night.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein‏ @TomSilverstein
McCarthy on Aaron Jones: He'll be in the rehab group with a projection of him possibly being able to practice on Wednesday.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy: I think we were minus-10 in tackling. Worst performance of the year.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy on Hundley getting hit in helmet: He got checked out in the training room and he's fine.

Tom Silverstein‏ @TomSilverstein
It's possible McCarthy will have rookie running backs Aaron Jones (MCL) and Jamaal Williams together very soon, possibly this week if everything goes right in Jones' continuing rehab. Would be a big boost to the offense.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy: If you don't get to 10 wins there's nothing else to talk about. We have to get to six. That's our mindset.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy said on 57-yard field goal try: "You have to go for points there if you trust your kicker." Asked about the potential of a miss and what it might do to momentum, he said, "You can't think like that." Said there were a ton of other factors involved.

I WOULD BUY THIS EXPLANATION FOR ANY OF THE PREVIOUS 4 OR 5 GAMES. BUT THEY WERE MOVING THE BALL ON THE STEELERS. MAKES IT VERY CLOSE. DESPITE THE OFFENSE LOOKING THE BEST IT HAS IN 5 WEEKS, THEY ONLY GOT 307 YARDS IN THE GAME. ON BALANCE, THIS WAS MCCARTHY THROWING CAUTION TO THE WIND IN A MUST WIN.

Tom SilversteiN @TomSilverstein
Dom Capers: Guys played hard. Takeaways were very big. Came at good times. Opening drive was frustrating. We have to tackle better. You have to use your leverage and give them a lot of space.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Capers on Brown catches on last drive: He made a tremendous play (on first one). Second play, we decided to pressure. We hadn't pressured a lot. We had a guy come free but Ben got rid of the ball. It's a hard route to defend.

Tom SilversteiN @TomSilverstein
Capers on Kevin King: That shoulder is such an issue, coming in and out of the game.

[beveaux1]

Spriggs must have played well. I don't recall hearing his name mentioned by the zebras at all and didn't realize for quite a while that he replaced McCray last night.

Best game of his pro career. Got better as the game went on, although it was really pretty average for a back up OT. McCray has done as well in his starts.

[pbmax]

Spriggs must have played well. I don't recall hearing his name mentioned by the zebras at all and didn't realize for quite a while that he replaced McCray last night.

It was a little more interesting than one would like, but he only got trashed on one play I saw (a run).

[Teamcheez1]

With Spriggs, McCray, etc playing, Bulaga will be moving on to another team next year

[Pugger]

Best game of his pro career. Got better as the game went on, although it was really pretty average for a back up OT. McCray has done as well in his starts.

Good for him. The Steelers are one of the top defenses in the league too so perhaps Spriggs isn't a bust after all. ;-)

[mraynrand]

With Spriggs, McCray, etc playing, Bulaga will be moving on to another team next year

Most likely the Crystal Lake Tigers.

[red]

That’s great that fat mike thinks a-rod is doing great getting ready to come back

The problem is that he BROKE HIS FUCKING COLLARBONE, and until it heals fully on its own, he shouldn’t be risking anything to fuck it up. That includes throwing the fucking ball 50 yards, just to show off before a game

[Joemailman]

That’s great that fat mike thinks a-rod is doing great getting ready to come back

The problem is that he BROKE HIS FUCKING COLLARBONE, and until it heals fully on its own, he shouldn’t be risking anything to fuck it up. That includes throwing the fucking ball 50 yards, just to show off before a game

He was showing Hundley how to throw deep.

[Pugger]

That’s great that fat mike thinks a-rod is doing great getting ready to come back

The problem is that he BROKE HIS FUCKING COLLARBONE, and until it heals fully on its own, he shouldn’t be risking anything to fuck it up. That includes throwing the fucking ball 50 yards, just to show off before a game

The Packers' medical staff is known to be one of the most conservative bunch around so I seriously doubt AR would be throwing unless he got the okay from the team doctors.

[texaspackerbacker]

The worrisome thing apparently isn't exerting the broken collarbone with throwing. It's the prospect of getting hit and breaking it again. with the Packers O Line, that is a bigger danger than with most other teams.

[Pugger]

The worrisome thing apparently isn't exerting the broken collarbone with throwing. It's the prospect of getting hit and breaking it again. with the Packers O Line, that is a bigger danger than with most other teams.


When healthy I don't think this OL is as bad as you are suggesting.

[Rutnstrut]

When healthy I don't think this OL is as bad as you are suggesting.

No it's worse.

[Pugger]

No it's worse.

You think a line with Bak, Taylor, Linsley, Evans and Bulaga is one of the bottom feeder lines in the league? :lol:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-lines-by-average-grade-week-5

[pbmax]

Watch Brooks wipe out Brown at the end of this clip.



https://vimeo.com/245015562

[mraynrand]

there it is

https://vimeo.com/245015562