Shazier

[red]

what, no one wants to talk about the ugly side of the nfl rearing its ugly head?

he delivered what didn't look like the worlds most dangerous hit. its a hit we see quite often. but he imediately lost all feeling and use of his legs

the team announced almost imediately that he suffered a spinal contusion

the next day they announced that he had some movement below the waist and that he would be moved to pittsburg the next day.

yesterday they decided not to move him for some reason, and everyone stopped giving updates.

today, they airlifted him to pittsburg where the medical team announced that they will not update his condition until they run all their tests

doesn't sound good for a great young player

[mraynrand]

It's a bit worrisome to be sure.


Too bad. I wanted the Packers to move up and draft him. If he were on the Packers he'd be OK now because they train their LBs not to tackle.

[Cheesehead Craig]

It's a bit worrisome to be sure.


Too bad. I wanted the Packers to move up and draft him. If he were on the Packers he'd be OK now because they train their LBs not to tackle.

But he'd have a hammy and be out anyways.

[Maxie the Taxi]

But he'd have a hammy and be out anyways.LOL

[Fosco33]

Nick Collins and Finley's injuries also were on 'small' hits. Most of neck/spine are about angle of impact.

[Pugger]

I wonder if he'll ever play again...

[Zool]

I wonder if he'll ever play again...

I hope for his sake he wouldn't. Remember Turd Ferguson after he got knocked out, and he didn't even break his neck.

[MadScientist]

I wonder if he'll ever play again...

Play?? At the moment I hope he walks again.

[Fritz]

It's a bit worrisome to be sure.


Too bad. I wanted the Packers to move up and draft him. If he were on the Packers he'd be OK now because they train their LBs not to tackle.

No, no, no. That's when it's a cornerback. When it's another position, you're supposed to say that TT knew the guy had potential medical problems and drafted him anyway because he likes drafting injured players, like Justin Harrell.

[mraynrand]

No, no, no. That's when it's a cornerback. When it's another position, you're supposed to say that TT knew the guy had potential medical problems and drafted him anyway because he likes drafting injured players, like Justin Harrell.

lol I just about spit up my coffee. Maybe we should add "Packerrat Memes" to that 'glossary' thread.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-ryan-shazier-pittsburgh-injury-news-1207-story.html

Lack of news on Ryan Shazier is disconcerting

" ... In general, good news comes quickly, bad news slowly.

We all like to hear and deliver good news and remain hopeful. No one likes to be the bearer of bad news.

Doctors and NFL teams are no different.

Regarding Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier, the worry is that no news is not good news. ..."

Please click on the LINK for the rest of this story.

[hoosier]

If the absence of news were itself worrisome then the Packers would be perennial Eeyores. The orthopods and neurologists are running a gazillion tests on him to make sure he doesn't have stenosis and whatever else. Some Steeler players reported being told that it was a spinal concussion, which would probably mean the damage is only temporary. Could it be something more serious? Sure, but the silence is not necessarily ominous.

[woodbuck27]

If the absence of news were itself worrisome then the Packers would be perennial Eeyores. The orthopods and neurologists are running a gazillion tests on him to make sure he doesn't have stenosis and whatever else. Some Steeler players reported being told that it was a spinal concussion, which would probably mean the damage is only temporary. Could it be something more serious? Sure, but the silence is not necessarily ominous.

No News isn't BAD News.

[red]

If the absence of news were itself worrisome then the Packers would be perennial Eeyores. The orthopods and neurologists are running a gazillion tests on him to make sure he doesn't have stenosis and whatever else. Some Steeler players reported being told that it was a spinal concussion, which would probably mean the damage is only temporary. Could it be something more serious? Sure, but the silence is not necessarily ominous.

Turns out he had spinal stabilization surgery last night, meaning it was much more severe injury then the team first reported

The doctors that performed the surgery didn’t say anything about whether he’d ever be able to walk again, or if he had any feeling

[pbmax]

They already reported he had feeling. But they may not be willing to risk much movement (and hence no updates) until after the stabilization surgery.

[Fosco33]

Not as eloquent as Tae but still intersting view from Finley.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/jermichael-finley-packers-injury-retirement/

[red]

They said he had “some” feeling I believe

[Fosco33]

https://www.inverse.com/article/39091-ryan-shazier-spinal-contusion-back-injury

[Guiness]

Nick Collins and Finley's injuries also were on 'small' hits. Most of neck/spine are about angle of impact.

Collins in particular looked run of the mill. Terrence Murphy is another one. Turned out both of them had pre-existing conditions, I wonder if that will be the case with Shazier?

[Fosco33]

Collins in particular looked run of the mill. Terrence Murphy is another one. Turned out both of them had pre-existing conditions, I wonder if that will be the case with Shazier?
And Sterljng sharpe. Stenosis.

My childhood friend was a Badger offensive lineman (ahead of Tauscher on depth chart). Same thing. Small hit. Loss of feeling. Ended his career.

[gbgary]

read they surgically stabilized his spine. a neurologist (not associated with the case) said that's a bad sign in his opinion. that it's probably more than a contusion.

[mraynrand]

nm

[pbmax]

And Sterljng sharpe. Stenosis.

My childhood friend was a Badger offensive lineman (ahead of Tauscher on depth chart). Same thing. Small hit. Loss of feeling. Ended his career.

Your childhood friend was Aaron Gibson?

[texaspackerbacker]

From a team's perspective, losing somebody permanently - like Collins for the Packers - messes things up because it is can't really be planned for like age and contract expiration.

From a player's perspective (and I expect what I say to generate a bunch of hate, but I'll say it anyway), they are paid absolutely huge amounts, even lesser players, to go out there and play a game that many of us would love to play for nothing or a tiny fraction as much. Injuries, even career ending, even injuries that mess up their future lives, are the risk they take. They know that risk going in, and if they don't want the risk, they can just quit and get a real job for a tiny tiny fraction of what they make in the NFL.

[pbmax]

From a team's perspective, losing somebody permanently - like Collins for the Packers - messes things up because it is can't really be planned for like age and contract expiration.

From a player's perspective (and I expect what I say to generate a bunch of hate, but I'll say it anyway), they are paid absolutely huge amounts, even lesser players, to go out there and play a game that many of us would love to play for nothing or a tiny fraction as much. Injuries, even career ending, even injuries that mess up their future lives, are the risk they take. They know that risk going in, and if they don't want the risk, they can just quit and get a real job for a tiny tiny fraction of what they make in the NFL.

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

[pbmax]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

[Fosco33]

Your childhood friend was Aaron Gibson?

Nope. But I knew Gibby in college. And Ron Dayne. And Greisen, etc.

Did Aaron have stenosis too?

My friend is terry Stephan out of Germantown wi.

[MadScientist]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.
The follow-up tweet gives a clearer indication of the potential seriousness of the injury:


Alessi says surgery is needed when the “bones around his spinal cord are dislocated. This is a more severe injury (than a contusion.)”

“This is a much more severe situation on our hands than we thought.”
— Michele Steele (@ESPNMichele) December 7, 2017

Hopefully this was all done in time to save his ability to walk.

Also given this situation, I wonder if Shazier's flipping himself over after the injury did him more damage. There have been other situations where the medical people strap a board to a guy and then flip him over so the possibly damaged spine doesn't get injured further.

[Fosco33]

The reason uw brought Tauscher back for that 5/6th yr was because terry Stephan got hurt.

http://journaltimes.com/fate-deals-tauscher-a-winning-hand/article_c44e88e0-fd80-5d57-8c57-d9ca43956274.html

[mraynrand]

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

I checked his post. He never said free. I bet if someone dragged 200000/year through a trailer park you’d get a lot of people interested in playing.

[mraynrand]

I checked his post. He never said free. I bet if someone dragged 200000/year through a trailer park you’d get a lot of people interested in playing.

Edit: oops he said nothing. Ya with people making a lot around you there’s no way you play for nothing. It makes you look like a rube.

[pbmax]

I checked his post. He never said free. I bet if someone dragged 200000/year through a trailer park you’d get a lot of people interested in playing.


From a player's perspective (and I expect what I say to generate a bunch of hate, but I'll say it anyway), they are paid absolutely huge amounts, even lesser players, to go out there and play a game that many of us would love to play for nothing or a tiny fraction as much.

I think nothing and free are pretty close synonyms.

$200,000 per year sounds wonderful, but if you are injured and released needing further medical care, you have to pay for the insurance coverage after you are released plus whatever is out of pocket. And since that $200,000 is not guaranteed, you might be paying for that care with $7,200 in your pocket.

[red]

Also given this situation, I wonder if Shazier's flipping himself over after the injury did him more damage. There have been other situations where the medical people strap a board to a guy and then flip him over so the possibly damaged spine doesn't get injured further.

i thought the same thing when i saw the video, he very well could have done major damage rolling over

although, if it was you or me, we probably would have done the same thing. i know with me, the first thing i do automatically when i'm hurt is to stand up and walk around, for some reason i think if i can walk it off then i'm fine. that didn't work too well when i tried to "walk it off", when my foot broke away from the rest of my body a few years back. but it did give me an image i'll never forget

i doubt he even realized there was a problem with his legs until he did roll over

its just scary, and something that could happen to any player on almost any play

[texaspackerbacker]

Is $200,000 what practice squad guys get? That's a LOT for regular people, a damn lot, and upward steeply from there. True, it's not enough to get messed up for life, but figuring in the very small likelihood of anything serious enough to do that, it's easily a risk worth taking - and if somebody thinks it's not, I say again, he can quit and get a real job - a lot less fun in virtually all cases, and a tiny fraction of the money.

[pbmax]

Is $200,000 what practice squad guys get? That's a LOT for regular people, a damn lot, and upward steeply from there. True, it's not enough to get messed up for life, but figuring in the very small likelihood of anything serious enough to do that, it's easily a risk worth taking - and if somebody thinks it's not, I say again, he can quit and get a real job - a lot less fun in virtually all cases, and a tiny fraction of the money.

If you have a contract in the offseason, you can approach $200,000 for the years before veteran minimums kick in. But PS players get $7,200 per week. I don't know what undrafted rookies get in the offseason though. Problem with being young and injured though is that your odds of getting cut and not reaching the minimum are much higher.

[hoosier]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.


The difference between good and not good in this case won't be measured by how soon (or whether) Shazier returns to the field.

[red]

If you have a contract in the offseason, you can approach $200,000 for the years before veteran minimums kick in. But PS players get $7,200 per week. I don't know what undrafted rookies get in the offseason though. Problem with being young and injured though is that your odds of getting cut and not reaching the minimum are much higher.

i think that is for the week, just during the season. i don't think they get paid during the offseason

[pbmax]

i think that is for the week, just during the season. i don't think they get paid during the offseason

I think it varies. Some PS guys do sign as UDFAs and get bonuses plus the minimum contract. Some are FAs signed near or in camp.

Each has the minimum contract, but I am not sure what the schedule of payments is. So Rand might be right about the absolute minimum being 200K, but if payments are made August through January/February, then you won't see a dime beyond that $5,000 signing bonus until camp.

You get hurt and that is 5 months on $5,000 plus one weekly check.

[bobblehead]

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

Pretty sure you overestimate a good many posters around here.

[red]

I think it varies. Some PS guys do sign as UDFAs and get bonuses plus the minimum contract. Some are FAs signed near or in camp.

Each has the minimum contract, but I am not sure what the schedule of payments is. So Rand might be right about the absolute minimum being 200K, but if payments are made August through January/February, then you won't see a dime beyond that $5,000 signing bonus until camp.

You get hurt and that is 5 months on $5,000 plus one weekly check.

no, he's not right

PS players get at minimum 7,200 dollars per week, for 17 weeks, and only 17 weeks. so the average PS players makes 122,400 a year. nfl players get paid 17 weeks out of the year, not weekly like everyone else. however players do get a little cash during training camp and preseason, which is about $1,000 a week for first year players and less then $2,000 a week for vets

if an undrafted free agent signs a 300,000 deal after the draft, but ends up on the PS, he's only going to make 122,400, NOT 300,000. PS guys are released, and then re signed. if they get called back up to the real roster, then he signs a new contract

no packer PS player was making more then 7,200 a week this year, so no, PS players don't often get paid more then the minimum

and to tex's point, thats still damn good money for most of us

[Cheesehead Craig]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

[woodbuck27]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

Yes.

[woodbuck27]

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

No kidding.

I just want to be a Manager. :-)

[woodbuck27]

Originally Posted by pbmax
" Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid. "


bobblehead Responds to pbmax:


Pretty sure you overestimate a good many posters around here.

I ....woodbuck27 respond to bobblehead:

Is that your arrogance I detect again? Here's a challenge.

Bring 'your Big Brain' to the Pro Pickem next Season; and we'll see how really bright, you really are.

Don't include any Non - USA Citizens on your List; of not being as bright as you imagine you might be.

The Packerrats not USA Citizens are intelligent Posters at Packerrats.

I'll name just a few of non-USA Posters here I truly respect as bright (intelligent).:

UpNorth and Guinness and mmmdk and ** I'm 'no slouch'.

** I've proof of that fact, in case you doubt my intelligence and overall knowledge of the NFL.

[mraynrand]

Is that your arrogance I detect?

F U.

^^^

"Woodcock's a great guy, Mraynrand, leave him alone!" - Harlan

[woodbuck27]

News on the NFL Network:

Still this AM (Sat. Dec. 12, 2017)...Good News as there isn't any official Team Update after the surgery.

It's still No News is Good News.

[bobblehead]

Originally Posted by pbmax
" Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid. "


bobblehead Responds to pbmax:



I ....woodbuck27 respond to bobblehead:

Is that your arrogance I detect again? Here's a challenge.

Bring 'your Big Brain' to the Pro Pickem next Season; and we'll see how really bright, you really are.

Don't include any Non - USA Citizens on your List; of not being as bright as you imagine you might be.

The Packerrats not USA Citizens are intelligent Posters at Packerrats.

I'll name just a few of non-USA Posters here I truly respect as bright (intelligent).:

UpNorth and Guinness and mmmdk and ** I'm 'no slouch'.

** I've proof of that fact, in case you doubt my intelligence and overall knowledge of the NFL.
Lighten up Francis, it was a joke.

[Fosco33]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

[pbmax]

Schefter reports that Shazier still has movement but it being limited as long as he has swelling from the injury.

He writes like the only open question is his playing career.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21723311/ryan-shazier-pittsburgh-steelers-showing-gradual-improvement-back-injury


While he remains hospitalized in Pittsburgh, Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier continues to show gradual improvement from his back injury, people familiar with his condition told ESPN.

Doctors are controlling and limiting his movement as they wait for the swelling and bruising in his back to subside, sources said.

It is premature to say whether Shazier will play football again, but the focus right now is not on his playing career but on trying to facilitate his recovery.

[red]

thats good news for him

the weird thing to me about the injury, was that it was the side of the neck that took the blow, but it was the middle of his back that was injured

kinda reminded me of this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urG1mhnFBjM

[esoxx]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

Man up, Sally

[denverYooper]

No kidding.

I just want to be a Manager. :-)

LOL. On point.

[Fosco33]

Man up, Sally

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

[pbmax]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

Excellent points.

Don't forget that the best PEDs aren't cheap either. :lol:

[gbgary]

"gradual improvement"...hope it continues.

[pbmax]

Shazier posted a video of he and family watching Steelers game last night. So he is alert and his phone hand/arm are working fine.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Shazier posted a video of he and family watching Steelers game last night. So he is alert and his phone hand/arm are working fine.

So PornHub is back in play.

[hoosier]

Lol.

[red]

LOL

[woodbuck27]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

:-) Not meaning any disrespect:

I don't mix up Gambling Vs Pro Pickem Analysis.

I study the NFL and use competent analysis to make concrete predictions. I use everything to my advantage to do that.

That doesn't usually have any huge bearing on a Vegas Line and any Pro Sports Matchup.

[woodbuck27]

Lighten up Francis, it was a joke.

No you weren't. I called you out.

You ran away because your out of line. :idea:

[woodbuck27]

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

I can't wait to see if you can ever get beyond just being bored and ever winning a Packerrats Pro Pickem Championship.

I will beg to differ and emphasize that trying to be a Pro Pickem Packerrat Champ is hardly boring.

It takes real smarts that exceeds anyone who gets easily bored.

Teens get bored not decent NFL analysts (Pro or Amateur).

Year after year I've seen this.

Any Packerrat that wins a Pro Pickem Championship has analyzed NFL Scheduled Games and predicted results well within the Top 10% of all Pro Analysts. That Level of predicting results seldom (if ever) includes any Ex NFL Player or Coach.

[woodbuck27]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2748898-ryan-shazier-placed-on-ir-by-steelers-after-undergoing-spinal-surgery

Ryan Shazier Placed on IR by Steelers After Undergoing Spinal Surgery

MIKE CHIARI .... DECEMBER 12, 2017

[mraynrand]

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

boss

[channtheman]

Maybe it's just because we as Packer fans have been conditioned to feel this way, but I assumed Shazier's playing days were over when I saw the injury and it was funny to me to hear during the game "He will not return" (no duh) and now this week "It's unclear if he will play again" (yeah, lets ignore the fact that the guy can't even walk right now and just talk about if he's gonna play football again.)

[mraynrand]

Yeah, it may be very tough sledding for Shazier, just getting his life back.

Then there's this guy:

https://www.smokingmusket.com/2017/12/13/16774146/stedman-bailey-los-angeles-rams-nfl-comeback-west-virginia-wvu-mountaineers

[red]

he just tweeted this morning that he has regained movement in his legs and has begun a "regular walking routine"

GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU-MTZ1WsAErWH2.jpg

[gbgary]

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers2.gif

[George Cumby]

Good news.

[pbmax]

Pretty sure this is shopped.

[red]

Pretty sure this is shopped.

its from his twitter feed

[Rastak]

Pretty sure this is shopped.


Nope, I believe that was real but Ben is holding him up. He still can't walk on his own.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/04/report-shazier-isnt-walking-on-his-own-yet/

[red]

Nope, I believe that was real but Ben is holding him up. He still can't walk on his own.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/04/report-shazier-isnt-walking-on-his-own-yet/

still a great sign

[Rastak]

still a great sign


Yea, poor fellow. Wish him the best.

[pbmax]

Was just joking. But Ben and that railing are helping him maintain balance.

[mraynrand]

The brace he's wearing indicates he doesn't have much peripheral motor control.

[Joemailman]

Just incredible that an incredible athlete like Shazier can end up in this situation from 1 play. You just never know...

[mraynrand]

Just incredible that an incredible athlete like Shazier can end up in this situation from 1 play. You just never know...

True. A shit load of heathy non-athletes end up that way and worse from '1 play' too. We just don't see the instant replay on most of 'em.

[bobblehead]

No you weren't. I called you out.

You ran away because your out of line. :idea:

Ok, Carnac...you caught me. I really do think there is one poster on this site that isn't very bright.

[Fritz]

And as Packer fans, we're also conditioned to think that the Packers will never even sniff around Sam Shields once he's announced he wants to try to come back.

[Teamcheez1]

And as Packer fans, we're also conditioned to think that the Packers will never even sniff around Sam Shields once he's announced he wants to try to come back.

Why would they even consider bringing Shields back after his history of concussions? No reason to take the risk.

[smuggler]

Great to see he's able to stand. He is really fortunate he will probably be fully functional in his older age. Shame about his career, but those are the risks these guys take.

[pbmax]

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Ryan Shazier confirmed Michele Tafoya's report that he is not walking on his own, and that walking with assistance in rehab remains a struggle

Michelle Tafoya via PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/06/ryan-shazier-confirms-he-is-not-walking-on-his-own/

Which raises the question, who did Schefter talk to about the "regular walking regime"? Was it his own spin or from someone else? For a while it was pleasant if slightly frustrating that not much news was being shared. But now I feel like someone is trying to play this kid's situation.

[woodbuck27]

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk
Ryan Shazier confirmed Michele Tafoya's report that he is not walking on his own, and that walking with assistance in rehab remains a struggle

Michelle Tafoya via PFT: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/06/ryan-shazier-confirms-he-is-not-walking-on-his-own/

Which raises the question, who did Schefter talk to about the "regular walking regime"? Was it his own spin or from someone else? For a while it was pleasant if slightly frustrating that not much news was being shared. But now I feel like someone is trying to play this kid's situation.

" who did Schefter talk to about the "regular walking regime"? " pbmax

Response: woodbuck27:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Bolt/Schefter-Ryan-Shazier-is-walking-making-incredible-progress-114633929

[I]" ...Ryan Shazier has "regained movement in his legs and is engaging in a regular walking routine," according to ESPN's Adam Schefter. ...

Shazier was discharged from UMPC on Thursday and will begin receiving outpatient therapy after undergoing spine stabilization surgery in December.

"He's making incredible progress," a source familiar with Shazier's recovery told ESPN. Schefter added that, "The next three to six months are critical in his recovery and will provide a significant idea how much more function Shazier can regain." Quote taken from LINK above.