Official Black Monday Is Coming Thread [Archive]

Rastak

12-29-2017, 10:40 AM

I can’t believe Hue Jackson likely survives. Perhaps Dorsey can convince Haslem he needs to get his own guy. I suppose that’s quite possible despite what Haslem indicated.

red

12-29-2017, 10:49 AM

I can’t believe Hue Jackson likely survives. Perhaps Dorsey can convince Haslem he needs to get his own guy. I suppose that’s quite possible despite what Haslem indicated.

I have no clue how Haslem can stick with him. 1 win in 2 years

woodbuck27

12-29-2017, 12:09 PM

who'd be the best D coordinator out of the bunch?

My analysis says we'll see that Status Quo and GM, HC and DC in Green Bay for the 2018 Season.

It's that Big Happy Family Feeling.

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/003/706/885/6565407052f712748985380db0119e2c_crop_exact.jpg?h= 646&w=970&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

BELIEVE BIG !!!!!!!!!!!!

woodbuck27

12-29-2017, 12:17 PM

I gotta think Fangio is the first choice, but I wouldn't mind looking at Austin.

Fangio = a NO !

He's headed for better than replacing Dom Capers in Green Bay.

Also:

A NO to Teryl Austin in Green Bay in 2018. The Detroit Lions DC is overdue for a head coaching opportunity.

It was rumored that Teryl Austin was a top candidate for the Arizona State job before 'the Sun Devils' hired Herm Edwards.

Teryl Austin will very likely be one of the top NFL head coaching candidates to replace a FIRED HC come January 2018. MM isn't going anywhere until TT moves out of his GM's office. Is TT still alive?

red

12-29-2017, 01:10 PM

Anyone think anything about Schiano from Ohio state

BZnDallas

12-29-2017, 08:37 PM

What about a Dan Quinn disciple? Haven't his defenses represented the NFC in the last 3 super bowls? Maybe? Our defense has some talent, we just gotta get someone to get it out of them.

BZnDallas

12-29-2017, 08:39 PM

3 out of the last 4.

pbmax

12-29-2017, 10:04 PM

I have no clue how Haslem can stick with him. 1 win in 2 years

Apparently Haslam promised 3 years at least. But he has probably promised that before.

Jimmy seems to like Hue though, or at least, thinks he been in a bad situation.

QBME

12-29-2017, 10:15 PM

who'd be the best D coordinator out of the bunch?

An interesting conundrum. There are a few former HC's that have taken on their former positions as Defensive Coordinators and have been successful. Think Peter Principle.

There are a select few DC's that will be available and willing to make that lateral move. Maybe Fangio, but not many others.

KYPack

12-29-2017, 10:30 PM

What about a Dan Quinn disciple? Haven't his defenses represented the NFC in the last 3 super bowls? Maybe? Our defense has some talent, we just gotta get someone to get it out of them.

Tod Wash J Jags is a "hot D coordinator" He was w/Seattle for a few seasons. He probably is looking for HC, I like the Jags D more than anything Fangio has lashed together at SF.

Joemailman

12-29-2017, 10:31 PM

Apparently Haslam promised 3 years at least. But he has probably promised that before.

Jimmy seems to like Hue though, or at least, thinks he been in a bad situation.

Did Dorsey take the GM job without a guarantee he could pick the coach? They have to change the culture and attitude there. Whether 1-30 is Jackson's fault, I don't think you change the culture with him there.

pbmax

12-29-2017, 10:35 PM

Did Dorsey take the GM job without a guarantee he could pick the coach? They have to change the culture and attitude there. Whether 1-30 is Jackson's fault, I don't think you change the culture with him there.

I think, like Ted, he might have agreed to a one year evaluation. But who the hell knows with Haslam? He might have decided on Hue staying one more year the day after signing Dorsey.

Bretsky

12-29-2017, 11:30 PM

on Dan Patrick it was noted the Bengals really like Hugh Jackson. It sounds insane, but they noted a trade could happen for Hugh frickin Jackson

red

12-30-2017, 09:38 AM

Did Dorsey take the GM job without a guarantee he could pick the coach? They have to change the culture and attitude there. Whether 1-30 is Jackson's fault, I don't think you change the culture with him there.

Hadley seems to be the problem if he’s willing to stick with a coach who has won 1 game in 2 years and not let his new GM pick his guy

mraynrand

12-30-2017, 09:42 AM

Hadley seems to be the problem if he’s willing to stick with a coach who has won 1 game in 2 years and not let his new GM pick his guy

The local word is that Haslem gave Hue an unconditional, iron-clad promise of a three year deal. The reason is because they were firing people every year, and no one would take the job. So Haslem had to promise. And because he is such a noble, trustworthy, ethical guy, he could never, ever go back on his word.

Still, why couldn't this work out? It's not like it's never been done to bring in a new GM and leave the old coach in place for a year. Hmmm....where do I recall that happening before?

Pugger

12-30-2017, 11:23 AM

on Dan Patrick it was noted the Bengals really like Hugh Jackson. It sounds insane, but they noted a trade could happen for Hugh frickin Jackson

That's why they are the Bungles.

pbmax

12-30-2017, 12:47 PM

The local word is that Haslem gave Hue an unconditional, iron-clad promise of a three year deal. The reason is because they were firing people every year, and no one would take the job. So Haslem had to promise. And because he is such a noble, trustworthy, ethical guy, he could never, ever go back on his word.

Still, why couldn't this work out? It's not like it's never been done to bring in a new GM and leave the old coach in place for a year. Hmmm....where do I recall that happening before?

At least the guy you may be thinking of WAS a GM.

Hue Jackson just plays one while he is coaching. He got the Raiders to trade for Carson Palmer and he just helped force the previous GM out in Cleveland.

Joemailman

12-31-2017, 10:04 AM

Sounds like Tampa Bay is sticking with Drk Koetter.

Reports are that Fox and Pagano are gone.

Reports that Oakland will dump Del Rio for Jon Gruden if Gruden wants it.

Joemailman

12-31-2017, 05:38 PM

Jay Glazer
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Chuck Pagano has been let go in Indy

Jay Glazer
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@JayGlazer
2h2 hours ago
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Jimmy Haslam continues to insist Hue Jackson will return next season

red

12-31-2017, 06:53 PM

Raiders officially fire jack del rio

pbmax

12-31-2017, 06:53 PM

Jack Del Rio out and Gruden seemingly in for Oakland.

mraynrand

12-31-2017, 07:25 PM

Jack Del Rio out and Gruden seemingly in for Oakland.

Maybe Gruden saw the writing on the wall for MNF. ESPN and other cable channels will be going down hard in the next few years.

woodbuck27

12-31-2017, 07:45 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000900272/article/nfl-coaching-tracker-latest-moves-developments

NFL coaching tracker: Latest moves, developments

By Around The NFL staff NFL.com

Published: Dec. 31, 2017 at 05:52 p.m. Updated: Dec. 31, 2017 at 07:54 p.m.

woodbuck27

12-31-2017, 07:48 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000901236/article/oakland-raiders-fire-head-coach-jack-del-rio

Oakland Raiders fire head coach Jack Del Rio

By Nick Shook NFL.com

Published: Dec. 31, 2017 at 07:49 p.m. Updated: Dec. 31, 2017 at 08:36 p.m.

woodbuck27

12-31-2017, 08:09 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000900653/article/houston-texans-gm-rick-smith-taking-leave-of-absence

News RE: an NFL Team's GM:

Houston Texans GM Rick Smith taking leave of absence

By: Nick Shook NFL.com

Published: Dec. 31, 2017 at 04:44 p.m. Updated: Dec. 31, 2017 at 05:12 p.m.

call_me_ishmael

12-31-2017, 08:47 PM

Maybe Gruden saw the writing on the wall for MNF. ESPN and other cable channels will be going down hard in the next few years.

Yep. Agreed. Pretty wild to see someone give up a cozy, high paying gig like that for a grinding HC position, but I think you're absolutely right that ESPN is getting hit hard and big salaries like Gruden's are going to go away.

pbmax

12-31-2017, 09:51 PM

Paganism gone.

Chuck Pagano too.

pbmax

01-01-2018, 07:19 AM

Caldwell is out.

McGinn wants to remind everyone that McCarthy is in charge from May until the end of the season.

pbmax

01-01-2018, 08:05 AM

It can always be worse:

Mary Kay Cabot
#Browns Jackson on NFL Network report that Dorsey will make hiring an OC his staff priority: I respect John but I don't think he's going to be hiring the OC. Says that's his call

Joemailman

01-01-2018, 08:22 AM

Ian Rapoport
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@RapSheet
#Bears GM Ryan Pace will lead the search for the replacement for John Fox. They’ll look at offensive minds to work with promising QB Mitch Trubisky, while defensive coordinator Vic Fangio could get a look as well.

mraynrand

01-01-2018, 10:30 AM

McGinn wants to remind everyone that McCarthy is in charge from May until the end of the season.

how much did you have to pay Scoops McGinn for that nugget of wisdom?

Joemailman

01-01-2018, 01:01 PM

Bruce Arians retires.

Vance Joseph will remain in Denver.

Joemailman

01-01-2018, 01:05 PM

Mike Garafolo
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@MikeGarafolo
Bears are setting up an interview with Eagles QB coach John DeFilippo for later this week, sources tell me and @RapSheet. His work with Carson Wentz has made him a legit candidate.

Ian Rapoport
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@RapSheet
#Broncos GM John Elway has told coach Vance Joseph he’s back for 2018, as expected. Expect staff changes.

Mike Garafolo
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@MikeGarafolo
Giants and Colts have requested interviews with Panthers defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, sources say. Add that to @RapSheet saying the Lions have asked to talk to him.

Tom Pelissero
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@TomPelissero
The #Lions have requested permission to interview Pat Shurmur for their head coach job, source said.

Ian Rapoport
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@RapSheet
Word of caution on Jon Gruden: Last year in January, Gruden was on a private plane with #Colts owner Jim Irsay, Peyton Manning and Gruden, as Indy was trying to hire a new coach/GM combination. It did not come to fruition. Will this be different for the #Raiders?

pbmax

01-01-2018, 01:26 PM

how much did you have to pay Scoops McGinn for that nugget of wisdom?

Twitter freebie for insomniacs.

woodbuck27

01-01-2018, 01:27 PM

https://arizonasports.com/story/1358567/arizona-cardinals-head-coach-bruce-arians-announces-retirement/

ARIZONA CARDINALS STORIES

Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians announces his retirement

BY: ARIZONA SPORTS | JANUARY 1, 2018 AT 11:13 AM .. UPDATED: JANUARY 1, 2018 AT 11:27 AM

Joemailman

01-02-2018, 05:32 PM

Marvin Lewis gets contract extension through 2019.

mraynrand

01-02-2018, 05:33 PM

Marvin Lewis gets contract extension through 2019.

unreal. 19 years and the dude will not win a playoff game.

Rastak

01-06-2018, 08:34 PM

woodbuck27

01-06-2018, 09:16 PM

Marvin Lewis gets contract extension through 2019.

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/fe/78/38/fe783842d07c4fda5b269fc8345ba56b--marvin-lewis-the-league.jpg

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woodbuck27

01-06-2018, 09:25 PM

Not sure I like this......from PFT

"Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Patriots are bracing for defensive coordinator Matt Patricia to leave, most likely to become the next coach of the Detroit Lions."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Patricia

Matt Patricia

Comment woodbuck27:

I like this move by the Lions although it was brutal to see them can ** Jim Caldwell.

" Matt Patricia, who has a degree in aeronautical engineering from Rennselaer Polytechnic, joined the Patriots in 2004. He became the defensive coordinator in 2012.

Regarded as brilliant in all matters, Patricia also is believed to be more than ready to take over a team of his own. He has, we’re told, a very good relationship with Lions G.M. Bob Quinn, who previously worked for the Patriots. "

** https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CaldJi0.htm