2018 Playoffs

[ThunderDan]

No way!

[denverYooper]

WOW

[Bossman641]

Oh my god...wtf just happened

[Teamcheez1]

Vikings didn't deserve that win. On to rooting for Philly.

[Rastak]

Unreal

[Guiness]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Just a little bit understated.

[pbmax]

:D

Karma Kramer. Horrible tackle.

[Cheesehead Craig]

What a brain fart by that safety

[ThunderDan]

43 needs to be shot for the Saints.

[Rastak]

Vikings did't deserve that win. On to rooting for Philly.


Have fun.,,,,lol, wow

[MadtownPacker]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
Good for you Ras, good for you.

Guess he did make himself a legend.

[Rastak]

There was a zero percent chance of that....wtf?

[Rastak]

Good for you Ras, good for you.

Guess he did make himself a legend.

Thanks Mad.

[red]

2 defenders going for the ball when all they needed to do is tackle

[ThunderDan]

Worse than Packers NFC Championship game?

[Bossman641]

Congrats ras.....i dunno why 43 completely dipped his head

[red]

43 needs to be shot for the Saints.

what exactly was he trying to do, take out his ankles, and whiffing?

[beveaux1]

Congrats ras.....i dunno why 43 completely dipped his head

Avoiding a concussion. You can't get one if you hit air.

[red]

unreal finish

we'll see that play a few times the rest of our lives

[Rutnstrut]

Vikings didn't deserve that win. On to rooting for Philly.

How in the hell did they not deserve it? They fought the whole game, damn good game by the Vikes.

[denverYooper]

We might have a new winner of the Bostickler trophy. #43 with the head-turn whiff.

[Rastak]

what exactly was he trying to do, take out his ankles, and whiffing?


Top 5 goofiest thing I ever saw in my 50 years of watching football...

[pbmax]

Worse than Packers NFC Championship game?

Yes.

[Rastak]

Wtf.....

[Teamcheez1]

How in the hell did they not deserve it? They fought the whole game, damn good game by the Vikes.

Go away.

[red]

#43 is the new bostick

[pbmax]

Congrats Ras, they deserved it. Stifled NO for most of the game except late. Little luck at the end never hurt anyone.

[denverYooper]

Vikings fans finally know what it's like to have Rodgers.

[red]

Top 5 goofiest thing I ever saw in my 50 years of watching football...

he missed by about 3 feet and took out the only other guy that could have stopped the td

[Rastak]

#43 is the new bostick

No kidding, just get him down inbounds.....

[denverYooper]

Yes.

Considering Brees is 39...

[red]

#43

Marcus Williams, second round rookie out of utah

[Rastak]

Well, fuck it, better to be lucky than good.....have a good evening Rats.....

[pbmax]

Let teamcheez be angry!

Free TC! Free TC!

[denverYooper]

Well, fuck it, better to be lucky than good.....have a good evening Rats.....

Congrats Ras. Nice win for the Vikes and their fans.

[red]

good for you ras

hope you guys get your asses kicked next week

but its not a bad matchup for you next week against the eagle minus wentz. they're still good, but not #1 seed good

[denverYooper]

Elsewhere, Belicheck is chortling ghoulishly.

[pbmax]

Considering Brees is 39...

Yeah.

But also because I get that Bostick wanted to catch the ball. Why did the safety not want to tackle the WR?

And right on cue Jimmy Johnson comes up with a plausible reason: deep safety did not want to have an interference because it was the only way the Vikes would be able to get the kick off. So he ducked to avoid a penalty.

[pbmax]

Elsewhere, Belicheck is chortling ghoulishly.

Captain Comeback is going to go wild over how this doesn't make Brady great when they win this year against a final four QBs such as Bortles and Jaymes, Keenum and Foles (plus Mariota who looked blah).

[Rastak]

I know I said I was leaving but Diggs sounds like Muhammad Ali.....

[esoxx]

I can't wait to hear Paul Allen's call of that last play. That should be fun.

[Rastak]

I can't wait to hear Paul Allen's call of that last play. That should be fun.


He probably fell over out cold.....

[mraynrand]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

[Rastak]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

Not gonna let it go I take it....which is fine, I have no horse in the race...

[mraynrand]

Taysom Hill would have made that tackle.

[esoxx]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

So you're just a troll now?

Nice move.

[Rastak]

Congrats Ras, they deserved it. Stifled NO for most of the game except late. Little luck at the end never hurt anyone.


Thanks PB.

[mraynrand]

So you're just a troll now?

Nice move.

I'm glad you enjoy it.

[pbmax]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

Clearly that catch and tackle was a sign of poor character and after a thorough investigation, all should be "cupped" until they are good and bruised.

[esoxx]

I'm glad you enjoy it.

Butt hurt loser for your boy TT getting demoted or whatever.

Let it go.

[esoxx]

Clearly that catch and tackle was a sign of poor character and after a thorough investigation, all should be "cupped" until they are good and bruised.

Yawn.

Really PB. Are you just a troll now too?

[mraynrand]

Butt hurt loser for your boy TT getting demoted or whatever.

Let it go.

I have no problem with TT being let go. I obviously am poking at the constitutive complainers. I normally don't consider you among them, but join the trite banal morons if you so choose.

[esoxx]

I have no problem with TT being let go. I obviously am poking at the constitutive complainers. I normally don't consider you among them, but join the trite banal morons if you so choose.

Obviously you do have a problem. A big problem.

Ohhhhhh, you're going to brand me with the others that might have a different view. Quite impressive.

[Bossman641]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

Don't put players with the jersey number a multiple of 43 in position to perform a game clinching play

[QBME]

Congrats Ras. Nice win for the Vikes and their fans.

Yup, heck of a game.

[mraynrand]

Don't put players with the jersey number a multiple of 43 in position to perform a game clinching play

:)

[mraynrand]

Obviously you do have a problem. A big problem.

Ohhhhhh, you're going to brand me with the others that might have a different view. Quite impressive.

No, I really don't care. I only like hitting back against idiocy. I've given my view of TT many a time - its well laid out and documented and it may be wrong. If I engage in a bit of over the top sarcasm, and it's too much for your sensitive self, have Madtown ban me. As I've said before, I welcome it.

[pbmax]

Yawn.

Really PB. Are you just a troll now too?

Only a troll? I am a bad one if I am.

Was just trying to land a goof. I am kinda surprised by the question though. I would have thought my ratio of posts was pretty positive overall.

Maybe it was that bad of a joke.

[esoxx]

Only a troll? I am a bad one if I am.

Was just trying to land a goof. I am kinda surprised by the question though. I would have thought my ratio of posts was pretty positive overall.

Maybe it was that bad of a joke.

Yeah, my bad.

This is what happens when the Vikings win on a last play miracle that we'll see 20,000x over the next 20 years.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Grats ras, hell of a finish.

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow, that has to be the best final 5 minutes of a game I've seen in recent memory. Unbelievable finish!!

[Rastak]

Wow, that has to be the best final 5 minutes of a game I've seen in recent memory. Unbelievable finish!!


Thanks Cheesehead and Ish......still can't believe it. They never come out on the right side of such an event.

[mraynrand]

Thanks Cheesehead and Ish......still can't believe it. They never come out on the right side of such an event.

Every championship requires some improbable event, I think. I know all my old buds at the U of M are pretty happy right now. As a Packer fan I know I want to see the run ended, but I also like that you all are having fun.

[Freak Out]

Happy for my Viking fan friends. They thought it was over. lol

[Zool]

Did they hand 43 a red cape before that play? WTF rookie. Stop in place, wait for him to land, make the tackle.

Happy-ish for Vikings fans I suppose. But man, what a Bostick level play that was.

[Carolina_Packer]

If we can resurrect the Bostickler Trophy for the playoffs (creative credit to Harlan), I nominate Marcus Williams for his poor timing and whiffing ability.
http://i.imgur.com/Gyqnd9y.png

[esoxx]

If we can resurrect the Bostickler Trophy for the playoffs (creative credit to Harlan), I nominate Marcus Williams for his poor timing and whiffing ability.
http://i.imgur.com/Gyqnd9y.png

Dilly, Dilly

[Rastak]

Dilly, Dilly

A true friend of the crown!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The queens game, we have not seen a improbable victory like that in sports since the soon-to-be 1-2-3 kid defeated Razor Ramon.

[Fosco33]

The playoffs seem to bring about the 'crazy' plays.

Super bowl helmet catches, Wilsons INT on the goal line, Aaron's multiple hail Mary's, Bostick, etc, etc.

Not trying to take away the win from the Vikes. It was improbable and crazy. But there have been at least 10-12 of those in games that were as or of greater importance.

[mraynrand]

The playoffs seem to bring about the 'crazy' plays. .

desperation does that.

[ThunderDan]

Did they hand 43 a red cape before that play? WTF rookie. Stop in place, wait for him to land, make the tackle.

Happy-ish for Vikings fans I suppose. But man, what a Bostick level play that was.

That’s what I don’t get with Jimmy Johnson’s explanation. 43 had the play right in front of him. Just slow down. There was never a reason to worry about dpi. The play was right in front of him.

[pbmax]

Blake Bortles Facts @BortlesFacts

Playoff Losses

Tom Brady: 9
Blake Bortles: 0

[pbmax]

That’s what I don’t get with Jimmy Johnson’s explanation. 43 had the play right in front of him. Just slow down. There was never a reason to worry about dpi. The play was right in front of him.

He was already closing on him as he might normally. Then he realizes he might get there an instant too soon. So he ducks and goes for the less obvious interference by taking out his legs.

He also could have been trying to plant him in the turf rather than wrestle an airborne player to the turf without getting near the sideline. Risky, but I could sort of see it.

Not a good play, but I definitely think he was trying something out of the ordinary. Haven't see the rookie play much but I doubt that is his normal tackling style.

[Pugger]

Vikings fans finally know what it's like to have Rodgers.

Huh?? Are you suggesting Keenum = Rodgers??

[Pugger]

hey, I have a friend who is a New Orleans fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules New Orleans violated that Minnesota followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and lucky catches because they don't count for the Packers. Why is New Orleans OK with wasting a great talent like Brees by allowing a marginal coach like Payton to remain there? Heads need to roll!

Yes, why is McCarthy criticized for wasting a QB like Rodgers but nary a word is spoken against Payton squandering all these years with Brees?

[mraynrand]

Yes, why is McCarthy criticized for wasting a QB like Rodgers but nary a word is spoken against Payton squandering all these years with Brees?

I'm sure there are plenty of NO fans who say Brees is wasted. :)

[denverYooper]

Huh?? Are you suggesting Keenum = Rodgers??

No. Just that we get to see those kinds of plays on a regular basis ;).

[SkinBasket]

I've never bought into the conspiracies about the NFL being a bought and paid for product before, but that play last night might have been one the most suspicious looking plays I've ever seen. Not as bad as boxing, but getting close.

[denverYooper]

I've never bought into the conspiracies about the NFL being a bought and paid for product before, but that play last night might have been one the most suspicious looking plays I've ever seen. Not as bad as boxing, but getting close.

The Saints were getting jobbed on PI all day. A few of the calls were deserved but it didn't seem to be enforced equally on both teams.

[mraynrand]

I've never bought into the conspiracies about the NFL being a bought and paid for product before, but that play last night might have been one the most suspicious looking plays I've ever seen. Not as bad as boxing, but getting close.

Were you expecting a folding chair to make an appearance?

[Cheesehead Craig]

That guy just did the old "don't use your arms to tackle and go for a big hit" mentality that too many secondary guys like to do. He wanted a highlight reel of him taking out Diggs' legs so he goes ass over teakettle and his the ground in spectacular fashion. Well, you got your highlight play buddy.

[pbmax]

That guy just did the old "don't use your arms to tackle and go for a big hit" mentality that too many secondary guys like to do. He wanted a highlight reel of him taking out Diggs' legs so he goes ass over teakettle and his the ground in spectacular fashion. Well, you got your highlight play buddy.

Those hits don't go for the legs.

[Rastak]

Those hits don't go for the legs.


He went low for whatever reason. Had Diggs come down in bounds the game is over, he falls out of bounds and it's a 53 yarder to win.....either way, nice throw and nice catch and heads up play .....no idea what the CB was trying to do nor do I care as you can imagine.

[Fosco33]

If our defense would've made a stop - this final series vs cardinals and Hail Mary would be one of the best ever. No nelson, ty, Adams or Cobb. And Jeff fucking Janis makes two huge catches to force OT.

http://www.snappytv.com/snaps/watch-rodgers-to-janis-hail-mary-about-nfl-green-bay-packers-at-arizona-cardinals-divisional-playoffs-on-nfl-live-2b_rb

[Cheesehead Craig]

Those hits don't go for the legs.

Not usually, but in this case he damn well did try it.

[Iron Mike]

I've never bought into the conspiracies about the NFL being a bought and paid for product before, but that play last night might have been one the most suspicious looking plays I've ever seen. Not as bad as boxing, but getting close.

Imagine how many titles Dallas would have back in the 90s, would holding have ever been called on their OL, or OPI called on Michael Irvin.....

[Iron Mike]

Were you expecting a folding chair to make an appearance?

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26903863_1787325551314125_4790840269759051104_n.jp g?oh=b8268c0616513c41ffbf217192b0451c&oe=5ADEA0F2

[Joemailman]

Those hits don't go for the legs.
Unless the current rules about not hitting a defenseless receiver in the head/neck area are why he went low. Just guessing.

[pbmax]

Unless the current rules about not hitting a defenseless receiver in the head/neck area are why he went low. Just guessing.

That receiver has a vertical jump of about four feet. The DB would need to be Inspector Gadget to hit him in the head and neck area.

[pbmax]

Why is Steve Austin wearing Dad pants?

[mraynrand]

Why is Steve Austin wearing Dad pants?

so he can run faster in slow motion?

[denverYooper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTmflCFU0AAGueb.jpg:medium

[Rastak]

Unless the current rules about not hitting a defenseless receiver in the head/neck area are why he went low. Just guessing.

I read that’s what he said. He didn’t want to get flagged for defenseless receiver and went low and inside to keep him in bounds and he completely whiffed.

[mraynrand]

I still don't get what with 10 seconds left the d-backs don't just hold like crazy if they let anyone past them. At worst they get a five yard penalty and an untimed down. Same with interference on anything short. Then there's no choice but to throw the hail mary - no chance for a FG.

[Pugger]

I still don't get what with 10 seconds left the d-backs don't just hold like crazy if they let anyone past them. At worst they get a five yard penalty and an untimed down. Same with interference on anything short. Then there's no choice but to throw the hail mary - no chance for a FG.

Defensive holding wouldn't have been the worst thing to do but couldn't interference put them in FG range and even if there was no time left on the clock there would still have been an untimed down for MN to kick it?

[mraynrand]

Like I said interference could happen only on short stuff. But just grab if your guy gets by you.

Still the rule is to be more aggressive because refs don’t want to decide games. Belichickism.

[SkinBasket]

Lol. Kudos to both photoshop jobs.

[pbmax]

I don't understand why going low means lower than his feet. I think that excuse doesn't wash.

[Joemailman]

The New England Patriots listed Brady as questionable to play against the Jacksonville Jaguars in Sunday's AFC Championship Game because of a hand injury.

A source close to the situation told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport that Brady suffered a cut to his right thumb during Wednesday's practice. The cut was gushing blood and required stitches, per Rapoport.

After not practicing Thursday, Brady was limited Friday. A source told Rapoport that Brady was "zinging it pretty good" during the session.

Brady wouldn't talk about the injury during Friday's news conference, giving only short, clipped answers about his status. The Patriots quarterback mostly vacillated between "I'm not talking about it" (when asked about his hand), and "we'll see" (when queried about his status). Brady also wore gloves on both hands during the entire media session.

Not sure if Brady ever plays with a glove. A cut that required stitches has to be protected. I'm sure he'll start, but a problem with a thumb can make throwing more difficult.

[pbmax]

Brady no glove, partial love. FG on first drive where they went down the field in small chunks with one 4th down conversion.

Hard to say if affecting him, didn't look like it on throws or handoff. Romo said he thought it was more shotgun than normal, but its early.

Jags got to Brady just once.

[Rastak]

Brady no glove, partial love. FG on first drive where they went down the field in small chunks with one 4th down conversion.

Hard to say if affecting him, didn't look like it on throws or handoff. Romo said he thought it was more shotgun than normal, but its early.

Jags got to Brady just once.


Jags are getting after them big time.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jax offense looking good.

[Rutnstrut]

Jags are getting after them big time.

True, but never count Brady and hoody out.

[Rutnstrut]

Odd though that a team with a great defense and running game can look this good. It's the anti stubby way and that can't work.

[Joemailman]

Good thing for Spectrum here in Wausau Packers aren't playing. Cable still out. Internet was out but is back.

[pbmax]

They’ve hit Tommy a few times now after a throw. If they can get away with it, might aggravate injury.

They have schemed themselves a passing game versus 8 in a box. We’ll see if it holds up

[Rastak]

They’ve hit Tommy a few times now after a throw. If they can get away with it, might aggravate injury.

They have schemed themselves a passing game versus 8 in a box. We’ll see if it holds up

Haven't seen anything I would consider a foul. They haven't been hitting him late.

[Rutnstrut]

Evidently the Jags can mug the Pats receivers today without any danger of a flag.

[Rutnstrut]

Haven't seen anything I would consider a foul. They haven't been hitting him late.

There was one that was easily late.

[yetisnowman]

I would take every Jaguar starter over every Packer starter by position on defense. Watching the playoffs this year has really shed some light on the talent deficiencies this team has.

[Rutnstrut]

I would take every Jaguar starter over every Packer starter by position on defense. Watching the playoffs this year has really shed some light on the talent deficiencies this team has.

Pretty much the same with every playoff teams back up QB's as well.

[pbmax]

Jaguars might have given the Pats a score with bad clock management.

[red]

so is this how new england always plays. just have brady throw it up long and wait for the penalties?

[Rutnstrut]

so is this how new england always plays. just have brady throw it up long and wait for the penalties?

Not usually. But really who cares? Rodgers does that a lot.

[pbmax]

Haven't seen anything I would consider a foul. They haven't been hitting him late.

I haven’t either but if you keep hitting QB after throw it’s going to happen.

[red]

Jaguars might have given the Pats a score with bad clock management.

and by hitting gronk in the helmet while he was dropping the ball

is gronk the most injury prone player of all time?

i'm pretty sure he;'s gotten injured at least once everytime i've watched a pats game

[Rutnstrut]

and by hitting gronk in the helmet while he was dropping the ball

is gronk the most injury prone player of all time?

i'm pretty sure he;'s gotten injured at least once everytime i've watched a pats game



Gronk is one of my favorites. But I agree he seems hurt all the time. Every time he gets hit he gets up like an old man.

[red]

Haven't seen anything I would consider a foul. They haven't been hitting him late.

jags are just flat out hitting hard on every play

[pbmax]

I take it back. 2 penalties let the Pats score without bad clock management. 55 seconds left.

[pbmax]

Their defense might be good enough to make me a liar but you don’t normally beat New England at home by not letting your offense try to score.

[Rastak]

I don't see how they can let Gronk back in the game after staggering off the field. I'm sure the NFL will find a way but that's gotta be a concussion.

[pbmax]

PFF’s Monson and Chris Brown do not agree with DPI flag. What do you think?

https://twitter.com/pff_sam/status/955188757753421824

[pbmax]

I don't see how they can let Gronk back in the game after staggering off the field. I'm sure the NFL will find a way but that's gotta be a concussion.

In further proof that Goodell can take any situation and make it worse, everyone is calling for college targeting rules in the NFL. And no one likes the targeting rules in college because of uneven enforcement.

[red]

PFF’s Monson and Chris Brown do not agree with DPI flag. What do you think?

https://twitter.com/pff_sam/status/955188757753421824

i thought it was a terrible call

there has been much worse not called in this game already

this is how people can claim the games are rigged. you let then play hard all game, then you call a ticky tac foul that changes the whole course of the game. just like calling or not calling an offensive holding can change a game at any time

[Rastak]

PFF’s Monson and Chris Brown do not agree with DPI flag. What do you think?

https://twitter.com/pff_sam/status/955188757753421824

I thought it was obvious at first but on replay not 100% sure. You could even make a case for offensive PI.

[red]

In further proof that Goodell can take any situation and make it worse, everyone is calling for college targeting rules in the NFL. And no one likes the targeting rules in college because of uneven enforcement.

i love the rule in college

throw the flag and take a look to determine if the guy should be kicked out or not. i've only seen it work right, i haven't witnessed any questionable decisions

[red]

I thought it was obvious at first but on replay not 100% sure. You could even make a case for offensive PI.

i thought it was offensive when i first saw the flag, the WR had his hands all over the cb's back, and gave him a shove

[Rutnstrut]

So it's pretty much a given anymore that if a player gets their bell rung it's a concussion?

[red]

So it's pretty much a given anymore that if a player gets their bell rung it's a concussion?

getting 'your bell rung" is the old school way of saying you just got a severe brain injury

so yeah, it is

and i think we'll start seeing it used more as a tactic. we saw it happen with adams twice this year. if you only get a 15 yard penalty for knocking the top weapon of the other team out of the game, thats a pretty nice trade off

[pbmax]

getting 'your bell rung" is the old school way of saying you just got a severe brain injury

so yeah, it is

and i think we'll start seeing it used more as a tactic. we saw it happen with adams twice this year. if you only get a 15 yard penalty for knocking the top weapon of the other team out of the game, thats a pretty nice trade off

Adams, more than Gronk is exactly the way a hit to the head can be used as a tactic and would Ben why the NFL changes to targeting.

[Rastak]

Adams, more than Gronk is exactly the way a hit to the head can be used as a tactic and would Ben why the NFL changes to targeting.

I'd be ok with the rule if it carried a mandatory booth review before anyone was tossed.

[red]

man, fournette is a beast

[pbmax]

Jags have run out of ideas on offense. That is two drives they have gone with Fournette runs on first and second then faced third and long.

Then they have to rely on Bortles and Jaymes to drop back and beat a Pass D. Don’t like those odds even if the Pass to Yeldon for a first was a beaut.

[red]

there you go jags, big kick

[Rutnstrut]

Holy shit the Jags get away with murder on D.

[red]

Holy shit the Jags get away with murder on D.

the pats just beg for flags after every play

[Rastak]

the pats just beg for flags after every play

Exactly.

[Rutnstrut]

the pats just beg for flags after every play

Did you not see that replay where brady threw into double coverage. The DB had the receivers arm. To be fair almost every receiver begs for a flag. But today the Pat's receivers have been right to do so.

[pbmax]

Fournette with HORRIBLE Pass block.

[Teamcheez1]

Lawrence Guy and Ricky Jean Francois have both made plays in this game. Just not good enough to play on our defense.

[pbmax]

PFT Commenter
How do u even evaluate rob gronkowski for a concusson?

[pbmax]

Lawrence Guy and Ricky Jean Francois have both made plays in this game. Just not good enough to play on our defense.

No coincidence that the Pats have no pass rush. But they blitz much less.

[Rutnstrut]

Lawrence Guy and Ricky Jean Francois have both made plays in this game. Just not good enough to play on our defense.

They both have done quite well in NE. But they also are being coached by a lot better staff.

[Joemailman]

Lawrence Guy and Ricky Jean Francois have both made plays in this game. Just not good enough to play on our defense.

Well they're not better than Daniels, Clark or Lowry. DL is not why the Packers are at home.

[pbmax]

Missed tackle on 3 rd down but speed renders it unimportant.

[pbmax]

9 in the box they run into it.

[pbmax]

Flea flicker?

[red]

Jags have run out of ideas on offense. That is two drives they have gone with Fournette runs on first and second then faced third and long.

Then they have to rely on Bortles and Jaymes to drop back and beat a Pass D. Don’t like those odds even if the Pass to Yeldon for a first was a beaut.

and now they've changed things up

even doug fucking marrone can adjust on the fly better then stubby

[Teamcheez1]

Could this be the end of the Brady/Belichek era?

[pbmax]

and now they've changed things up

even doug fucking marrone can adjust on the fly better then stubby

I’m happy not to see the flea flicker.

[pbmax]

Well the concussion rule held up that time.

EDIT: Gronk is out of game.

[red]

FUMBLE

WHAT A STRIP after a huge trick play

miles fucking jack, man i wanted him in green and gold

[Rastak]

What's the rule on that? Seems like it was coming out.....Not sure how that should be ruled, almost looked like he hd it back while down.

[pbmax]

Lost fumble would be huge rare Patriot screw up.

[Rutnstrut]

That's not a fumble.

[pbmax]

I think it was loose and he never regained control.

[red]

Could this be the end of the Brady/Belichek era?

if they lose, it could very well be

brady is a shell of his old self, this should be the last year for him

and would hoodie stick around to try and get another QB up to speed?

[Rastak]

That's not a fumble.

Guess again!

[Rutnstrut]

Bullshit. It's not a fumble.

[Rastak]

Bullshit. It's not a fumble.


Me and the NFL disagree....

[red]

Well the concussion rule held up that time.

that 15 yard penalty seem like very small price to pay now

[red]

HOW IS THAT NOT A FLAG?

show the replay cbs, looked like the DB was all over him

[red]

Bullshit. It's not a fumble.

that was clearly a fumble

[red]

why wouldn't they snap it and throw it to the wide open guy in the slot?

can the punter not throw at all?

[Rutnstrut]

that was clearly a fumble

Clear as mud. He regained control, but the calls have been going the Jags way all game.

[red]

Clear as mud. He regained control, but the calls have been going the Jags way all game.

touching it with the side of your hand is not "regaining control"

thats like saying you got a hand job from every girl that bumps into you

[Rastak]

touching it with the side of your hand is not "regaining control"

thats like saying you got a hand job from every girl that bumps into you



:-)

[red]

that is great coverage

not so much on the next play

[Joemailman]

Rut got some money down on the Patriots?

[Rutnstrut]

touching it with the side of your hand is not "regaining control"

thats like saying you got a hand job from every girl that bumps into you

I bet you would call it control if it had been a Packer player. He pinned it against his body with his hand.

[Rastak]

Rut got some money down on the Patriots?

Must because he was silent on the Pats holding a couple plays back.

[red]

jack didn't make the play, but that was a LB covering a speedy WR down the field

[red]

what the fuck kind of stupid movie is this?

[Rutnstrut]

Nope no money on the Pats. But they are my second favorite team.

[Rastak]

what the fuck kind of stupid movie is this?


That's what I said. The dumbest fucking plot of all time.

[red]

guy is clearly down yet 2 pats continue to rough him up for about 5 seconds after the whistle

no flag of course

[red]

That's what I said. The dumbest fucking plot of all time.

to be honest most movie plots are stupid these days

but this one just blew all the comic book crap right out of the water

[pbmax]

I don’t know what cover 2 zone that Jags were playing on last patriot drive but they should stop using it.

[Rutnstrut]

guy is clearly down yet 2 pats continue to rough him up for about 5 seconds after the whistle

no flag of course

The saints did the same thing to the Vikes on the final drive last weekend and it wasn't called.

[Rastak]

Wobbly assed duck almost got picked.....

[red]

mugged again, no flag

rigged much?, all the calls clearly seem to be going one way

[Rastak]

Jags need to get that defense rockin.....

[Joemailman]

This should be interesting...

[Rutnstrut]

mugged again, no flag

rigged much?, all the calls clearly seem to be going one way

IDK, it seems that they haven't been calling it both ways. So if they continue to do it that way, it's not a bad thing imo.

[pbmax]

They are getting Bortles and Jaymes a clean pocket but he hasn’t been productive enough last two drives. Need something short to bust open.

[pbmax]

Now THAT was DPI

Completely unnecessary too.

[Rastak]

Good call upon review....

[red]

you gotta be fucking kidding me

of course they call that one

[Rastak]

Might be a good time to crack open the first beer of the day....

[Rutnstrut]

you gotta be fucking kidding me

of course they call that one

Come on, that one was clearly PI.

[pbmax]

you gotta be fucking kidding me

of course they call that one

That was legit. Saw it live.

[red]

IDK, it seems that they haven't been calling it both ways. So if they continue to do it that way, it's not a bad thing imo.

you're kidding right?

pats have gotten more yards from DPI then brady has thrown for

[Rastak]

Brady is getting a proper beating....

[red]

Come on, that one was clearly PI.

what happened on the last jags play was much worse

[red]

Brady is getting a proper beating....

he should get that every week, guy can't move

[pbmax]

what happened on the last jags play was much worse

The 3rd down crossing route?

[red]

alright jags, kill some clocks, get some points

[pbmax]

If your ILB can cover James White in Pass game you deserve to win.

[red]

The 3rd down crossing route?

yes, the one where a guy was getting a piggy back ride from the jag

[pbmax]

Run something else on first down.

[Rastak]

Jags are fading, they need a turnover.....

[red]

harrison h2h on a QB not called

[pbmax]

TV is terrible. Had camera on guy who got seconds on sack.

[red]

Jags are fading, they need a turnover.....

bortels being exposed

[Joemailman]

Bad time for a bad punt.

[red]

thats a catch romo

not even close to not being a catch

yet they show this review 50 times

[Rutnstrut]

Far as I can tell that's a catch.

[pbmax]

He’s Packer people.

[red]

Bad time for a bad punt.

whole teams pulling a mccarthy choke special

[Joemailman]

Jack and Dareus going out on successive plays?

[Teamcheez1]

Someone should have told the Jags that 20 total points (only 6 in the second half) would not get them a win.

[red]

shit

[pbmax]

And that’s how you waste a #1 Defense.

[wist43]

Fuck the patriots!!! Hate those assholes!!!

[red]

Jack and Dareus going out on successive plays?

yup

jack on the cart heading to the locker room

looks like left ankle

[red]

And that’s how you waste a #1 Defense.

the problem is that bortles isn't bad enough where they have to replace him, but he's not good enough to win with

[Rutnstrut]

Just a little push off there.

[red]

are you allowed to play super loud music while the away team is trying to call plays?

[Rastak]

Alcoa presents fantastic finishes......

[red]

what kind of half assed throw was that?

[pbmax]

Fournette open but throw not there

[red]

dilly dilly

[Rastak]

Dilly Dilly....!

[red]

ok, game night might be ok

[Joemailman]

How can such a bad beer have such good commercials?

[red]

How can such a bad beer have such good commercials?

you gotta get people to buy that bad beer somehow

[Rastak]

Nicely played by Gilmore

[red]

omg

what a play

[pbmax]

Gilmore just earned his check.

[pbmax]

He had a step.

[red]

i believe gilmour is a free agent after this season

[red]

for fuck sakes

[Joemailman]

i believe gilmour is a free agent after this season

No. Signed a 4 year extension last March.

[red]

come on, someone grow some balls and take out brady's knees

[Rastak]

Well, Pats again.

[Teamcheez1]

Not my desired outcome, but the Patriots are better insurance in case the Vikings win.

[Rutnstrut]

Best coached team in the NFL by far.

[red]

No. Signed a 4 year extension last March.

malcolm butler then, maybe?

i know it was a decent pats CB

[Rastak]

Best coached team in the NFL by far.

No question.

[red]

"we would like to thank the refs and the nfl for keeping us in this game when we were playing so poorly early on"

[Joemailman]

malcolm butler then, maybe?

i know it was a decent pats CB

Yes.

[red]

Best coached team in the NFL by far.

its amazing how they can take cast off shit from every other team in the league, and make it work

the guys then suck again when they move on

[Rutnstrut]

No question.

The Vikes have a pretty damn good coach also.

[Rastak]

The Vikes have a pretty damn good coach also.

Yea, gives me some hope today.

[red]

there should be an age limit to life

[pbmax]

On that first down run, the Patriots motioned someone and the edge defender reduced his gap and was inside the tackle's should, meaning he could be hooked inside unless he defeats the Tackle immediately.

We have seen this happen to Perry and Matthews. This wasn't an accident, it was by design for both offense and defense.

Which means an inside player, safety or ILB was supposed to get to the edge. Only the corner did, who took out a blocker.

Its all a numbers game on the outside.

Patriots sure had tough road to Super Bowl again :lol:

[Joemailman]

Remember this back in September?

http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/philadelphia-eagles/mike-lombardi-i-think-i-know-what-good-coach-looks


Mike Lombardi, who recently created a stir with strong criticism of Doug Pederson, defended and explained his comments Tuesday.

Lombardi, a former NFL executive who has worked for the Patriots, 49ers, Browns, Raiders and Eagles, ripped Pederson's qualifications to be a head coach.

"Now, everybody knows Pederson isn't a head coach," Lombardi, now with The Ringer, said. "He might be less qualified to coach a team than anyone I've seen in my 30-plus years in the NFL. Pederson was barely a coordinator before he became a head coach!"

So, what was behind the remarks?

"I just voiced an opinion — it's not a hot take by no means," Lombardi said on CSN's Tuesday edition of Philly Sports Talk. "I've studied the Eagles, I've studied the NFL for 35 years, I've been to four Super Bowls, I've won three. I've been around Bill Walsh, I've been around Bill Belichick, I've been around Al Davis — I think I know what a good coach looks like. I just don't see Doug being able to be ready for the job that they [have] given him, and I think that's the challenge."

[woodbuck27]

Best coached team in the NFL by far.


Absolutely. Bill Belichick makes that half time adjustment every time.

If your not up by at least 10 Points at the half your in deep trouble.

What can you say about the addition of James Harrison and what he gave to the NE Defense!? That addition was a key to the win. Belichick makes a Man really believe and gives new life and inspiration to a player. It's suddenly a real chance and Super Bowl with Belichick and Brady.

Down 10 Points with what?... 9-10 Minutes to go and Danny Amendola is told. " Your going to be the Man."

Every game it's someone different to lead. You cannot invent that stuff without "Genius and Coaching"; and knowing how and when to bring in new talent. Of course, it sure helps to have a QB with the awesome talent and competitive Spirit of Tom Brady.

It's incredible to love football and see and truly appreciate all that The New England Patriots brings to the NFL game.

Ohh by the way:

Mae says Tom's hand wasn't all that bad. Did anyone see anything different than Mae?

[Rutnstrut]

I may have missed it. But I don't think there were any POS kneelers in either game during the national anthem.