2018 Playoffs

[call_me_ishmael]

This upcoming weekend is the best football weekend of the year. I love the divisional round.

Who does everyone think is the best team? The NFC seems sort of stacked this year. For Minnesota to do what they're doing without a QB is amazing. The NFC South is also great. I think I like the Saints or Falcons in the NFC.

Patriots in the AFC of course :-)

[Fritz]

The divisional round is the most fun of any NFL weekend of the year.

[denverYooper]

The Patriots would have a much harder time if they had to play Jacksonville and Pittsburgh instead of only one of the two.

Of those two, Pittsburgh probably stands a better chance. Bradybot would take a beating by Jax's front 7 but Bortles.

[pbmax]

Bah humbug.

[Pugger]

Geaux Saints!

[QBME]

Geaux Saints!

I'm wit you. Who dem?

[alquaal]

In the unholy event the Vikings make it to the SB will there be any effort made to take away home field advantage? Will they be able to use their lockerroom/facilities? Will they be able to blow that stupid horn?

[pbmax]

Likes would not be able to use their game day operations people, so music, video boards and presumably horn would be in the hands of the League.

[Zool]

Likes would not be able to use their game day operations people, so music, video boards and presumably horn would be in the hands of the League.

NFC is the away team so hard to say on the locker rooms. Both lockers at pretty fucking swank though.

[Guiness]

NFC is the away team so hard to say on the locker rooms. Both lockers at pretty fucking swank though.

They've already said the Vikings would be allowed to practice at their facility. The original plan was for the AFC team to use it and the NFC team practice at the UofM stadium, but the NFL said that will change if the NFC team is the Vikings.

That seems the opposite of taking away any advantage the Vikings would have. They know the stadium and field, why not let the other team get used to it?

[Guiness]

Getting a kick out of the discussion if the Steelers or Jags have a better shot against the Patriots. I wonder how the Titans feel about that?

Bulletin board material? Ah, doesn't matter. I don't think the Titans are going anywhere in this game. Vegas is spotting them what, 12 points?

[mraynrand]

G I don't think the Titans are going anywhere in this game.

Bulletin board material

[Joemailman]

I thought they cancelled the playoffs this year.

[denverYooper]

Fick the Vickings

[Teamcheez1]

If I happen to be around, I may even turn the channel to watch part of these games. It's a close battle between the Home Shopping Network and My 600 lb Life for what would actually be more entertaining.

[Pugger]

Or we can watch Mecum Auto Auctions on NBCSN.

[woodbuck27]

I'm going to support the only member of Packerrats (Rastak) that still has a shot at seeing his Team win a Super Bowl.

I'm LOYAL to Packerrats and Reality.

[ThunderDan]

The only way I root for the Vikings this playoffs is if they play the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

[Pugger]

The only way I root for the Vikings this playoffs is if they play the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Hell, if the Vikes are in the SB I'll root for the damn Patriots and I hate that entire bunch. I'm positive not many Vikings fans rooted for us in 2010.

[red]

i just turned on the eagle falcons game at halftime and the entire upper deck was empty. has it been this way for the whole game, or are the fans there just a bunch of pussies that can't take the cold so every single one of them went inside to get warm?

[Joemailman]

i just turned on the eagle falcons game at halftime and the entire upper deck was empty. has it been this way for the whole game, or are the fans there just a bunch of pussies that can't take the cold so every single one of them went inside to get warm?

I was wondering the same thing. I guess they can't handle a little wind.

[red]

for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB

[Joemailman]

for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB

There is something to be said for having a backup QB who has played before.

[Maxie the Taxi]

for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QBHaving one of the best defenses in the NFL helps.

[SMBASS]

Having one of the best defenses in the NFL helps.

That's exactly the point. It would be nice to have a TEAM that isn't entirely dependent on 1 player having to perform at an all-world level just to be competitive. One thing the playoffs tell me year after year is that you still need a good to great D to win the Superb Owl. Teams with video game offenses and pathetic D's just don't win it.

[Bossman641]

Eagles had back to back 7-9 records the previous 2 years.. and a 4 win year a few years prior to that. A lot easier to reload that way.

[pbmax]

for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB

How many games did Wentz miss?

[bobblehead]

for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB

But there were 2 teams in that game. The falcons are wasting Matt Ryan. OMG...OMG...EVERY team should be built to win the superbowl every year.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Refs are giving the game to New England.

[bobblehead]

Eagles had back to back 7-9 records the previous 2 years.. and a 4 win year a few years prior to that. A lot easier to reload that way.
No, they are just a superior organization and TT sucks.

[pbmax]

Refs are giving the game to New England.

Gronk with veteran shoulder shrug well after contact for holding Call was especially cute.

[Maxie the Taxi]

But there were 2 teams in that game. The falcons are wasting Matt Ryan. OMG...OMG...EVERY team should be built to win the superbowl every year.I agree. Atlanta should have won it last year and they were one catch away from winning today. Plus, they have a top ten defense.

[pbmax]

Huh. Dick LeBeau defense getting torched in Foxboro. Some things never change.

[Joemailman]

Mariota does not look like a guy who should have been the #2 pick in the draft.

[pbmax]

I agree. Atlanta should have won it last year and they were one catch away from winning today. Plus, they have a top ten defense.

Philly D players in locker room said they knew what they would run on 4th down. Steve Sarkisian is apparently no Kyle Shanahan.

[Bretsky]

How many games did Wentz miss?


How many games did Sam Bradford miss ?

[esoxx]

How many games did Sam Bradford miss ?

BURN

[Pugger]

That's exactly the point. It would be nice to have a TEAM that isn't entirely dependent on 1 player having to perform at an all-world level just to be competitive. One thing the playoffs tell me year after year is that you still need a good to great D to win the Superb Owl. Teams with video game offenses and pathetic D's just don't win it.

Well, perhaps now with a new DC and a GM who isn't allergic to FA maybe we can finally field a decent enough defense so AR doesn't have to play out of his freaking mind for us to win.

[denverYooper]

There is something to be said for having a backup QB who has played before.

And the Eagles defense. That's the dumb part of this "Backup X" has been successful discussion. The Vikings are also playing a journeyman backup but they have a top 3 defense. Blake Bortles has a lot of QB Winz this year too but I'm not ready to say he's a successful QB.

Foles has started a few seasons' worth of games and he did enough to not lose. That's usually what it takes on a team that does not have to worry about the defense's inability to get off of the fiel.d

The recent Packers have relied on their offense to win games. That's not an ideal scenario for any journeyman to step into.

[denverYooper]

Foles vs Hundley



Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
56.4 537 5 5.0 2 2.0 35 5.3 5.4 9.4 76.7 79.5 31.4 5 44 4.65 4.75 4.7
60.8 1836 9 2.8 12 3.8 55 5.8 4.7 9.6 166.9 70.6 40.5 29 197 4.75 3.71 8.4

[pbmax]

Player Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G
Foles 56.4 537 5 5.0 2 2.0 35 5.3 5.4 9.4 76.7
Hundley 60.8 1836 9 2.8 12 3.8 55 5.8 4.7 9.6 166.9




Player Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
Foles 79.5 31.4 5 44 4.65 4.75 4.7
Hundley 70.6 40.5 29 197 4.75 3.71 8.4


Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.

[Carolina_Packer]

The Eagles already had a good D when Wentz got hurt. If your D plays well enough, the backup QB just needs to be the "game manager" and not turn the ball over. They didn't need Foles to be as good as Wentz.

When A-Rod got hurt, MM knew that his D was mediocre for multiple reasons, so he still needed his QB to carry more of the load. When that didn't work out so well, and there were a lot of three and outs on the offense and inconsistent play by the D, that was a recipe for having the overall talent-level of the team exposed.

Fix the D this offseason. Priority #1.

[denverYooper]

Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.

It looked like the offense for Foles last night was designed to get the ball out of his hands, mostly RPOs and runs. They mixed in a handful of dropbacks but those were a lot more of an adventure.

[pbmax]

It looked like the offense for Foles last night was designed to get the ball out of his hands, mostly RPOs and runs. They mixed in a handful of dropbacks but those were a lot more of an adventure.

Yep. I am going to be forever curious whether the Rodgers offense is because of Rodgers wish to get big plays has gone well beyond touchdown then check down or if McCarthy thinks being as hard to bring down (or quick to release) as Farve or in tune with the Matrix of pass protection (Rodgers) is a normal trait for a QB.

If Peyton Manning had been his QB, I think there would have been a homicide. First Manning would have died on the field, then Archie would have run M3 over with a truck.

[ZachMN]

Per the 'How many Games did Sam Bradford miss?'- I hate to say this but Keenum is the better qb for what they are doing. And let's be honest- a little or in their case a lot of luck has been a part of their success. Little things that go their way like injuries to key players on other teams. Hundley exposed something and that would be McCarthy.

[denverYooper]

Per the 'How many Games did Sam Bradford miss?'- I hate to say this but Keenum is the better qb for what they are doing. And let's be honest- a little or in their case a lot of luck has been a part of their success. Little things that go their way like injuries to key players on other teams. Hundley exposed something and that would be McCarthy.

Little things like purposely taking out a HOF QB on their chief rival by driving him to the turf ;).

[mraynrand]

Little things like purposely taking out a HOF QB on their chief rival by driving him to the turf ;).

Probably the most consequential play in football this year. Barr should get a bonus but that might be seen as a bounty. Petite should send him a thank you card. Capers, Bennett and TT, not so much.

[beveaux1]

Player Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G
Foles 56.4 537 5 5.0 2 2.0 35 5.3 5.4 9.4 76.7
Hundley 60.8 1836 9 2.8 12 3.8 55 5.8 4.7 9.6 166.9




Player Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk%
Foles 79.5 31.4 5 44 4.65 4.75 4.7
Hundley 70.6 40.5 29 197 4.75 3.71 8.4


Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.

Hundley's sack percentage was much more a function of Hundley's inability to move to the 2nd 3rd an 4th reads and get the ball out of his hands than it was OL difficulties. Maybe I'm misremembering, but it seemed that his sacks went down the last 4 games after MM changed the offense to quick pass, no think. We were not more successful, but Hundley wasn't bailing to his right as much...until the end of the game and we were playing from behind.

[bobblehead]

Jacksonville just showed MM how to utilize a running game.

[red]

steelers in big trouble early

thats a TD by fournette

[bobblehead]

Just cuz you have ARod doesn't mean you aren't allowed to run effectively to rest the D and throw the opposition off balance.

[Rastak]

steelers in big trouble early

thats a TD by fournette


The Jags are giving them an old fashioned asskicking.

[red]

wow, what a stop on 4th

[Rastak]

wow, what a stop on 4th

I never understand why teams run wide like that. Have Big Ben sneak it.

[red]

The Jags are giving them an old fashioned asskicking.

now its a full on asskicking

[Rastak]

now its a full on asskicking

Agreed, it has reached that level now.

[red]

28-7

58 yard fumble return for TD

thats a terrible rule, guy gets a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty for pointing at a guy trying to tackle him

you can legally hit someone as hard as you can, but no pointing

[Rastak]

28-7

58 yard fumble return for TD

thats a terrible rule, guy gets a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty for pointing at a guy trying to tackle him

you can legally hit someone as hard as you can, but no pointing

I get what you are saying but just fucking score and hand the ref the ball....any extra bullshit isn't required.

[Fritz]

The city of Pittsburgh better put extra cops on all those bridges in the Steel City. Lots of fans will be lining up to jump off them.

[pbmax]

Steelers will win.

[Rastak]

Steelers will win.

They have the momentum now.....although the Jags got screwed on that personal foul call.

[bobblehead]

Steelers will win.

How about now?

[pbmax]

How about now?

Yep.

How many 40 yard bombs on 3rd and long is Bortles gonna get?

But Jags defense has really stepped up after Pittsburgh righted the ship on offense.

[Rastak]

Yep.

How many 40 yard bombs on 3rd and long is Bortles gonna get?

But Jags defense has really stepped up after Pittsburgh righted the ship on offense.

How many does he need?


edit: Nice grab by Brown!

[Rastak]

Go Jags!

[beveaux1]

Bortles is two steps up from Hundley.

[bobblehead]

OMG...the Steelers are wasting Bell/Brown/Rapistbergers Prime!!!

[bobblehead]

Yep.

How many 40 yard bombs on 3rd and long is Bortles gonna get?

But Jags defense has really stepped up after Pittsburgh righted the ship on offense.

now?

[beveaux1]

Pittsburgh defense is below average. That may be why Hundley looked good against them.

[Smidgeon]

Bortles is two steps up from Hundley.

Not really a surprise considering draft position.

[Rastak]

Oh man, 17 fucked his leg up good.

[beveaux1]

Not really a surprise considering draft position.

Last week, he looked pretty poor.

[Rastak]

Fouts, "This is pass interference" - oh bullshit - he barely touched him and played the ball......they shouldn't call it every damn play somebody barely touches someone.

[Rastak]

Nice play by Big Ben.....

[beveaux1]

Fouts, "This is pass interference" - oh bullshit - he barely touched him and played the ball......they shouldn't call it every damn play somebody barely touches someone.

I agree, especially in the playoffs. A 50 yd penalty would have been wrong.

[Rastak]

I agree, especially in the playoffs. A 50 yd penalty would have been wrong.

I'm ok if it's obvious. If you flat out grab the guys arms by all means call it.

[beveaux1]

The Steelers have a way of getting points in a hurry in spite of very questionable coaching.

[Rastak]

The Steelers have a way of getting points in a hurry in spite of very questionable coaching.

They have some skilled dudes and the Jags haven't exactly been great at stopping the deep ball.

[Rastak]

I think I would have went for it.


edit: That's one of the millions of reasons I don't coach in the NFL.

[beveaux1]

The fat lady is singing. Poor coaching decisions--we would have rung up MM if he made those decisions.

[Rastak]

So Jags-Patriots.......would be very cool to see Jacksonville in it, Vikings implications being ignored.

[beveaux1]

Pitt needs a FG soon.

[Rastak]

Pitt needs a FG soon.


and an onside kick.....

[Rastak]

run off?


edit: yup.....

[beveaux1]

Should have kicked it.

[Rastak]

game set match

[beveaux1]

Very poor coaching decisions.

[Rastak]

Very poor coaching decisions.

I like Tomlin but he's not the worlds greatest sideline tactical coach.

[beveaux1]

I like Tomlin but he's not the worlds greatest sideline tactical coach.

Far from it. They win a lot of times in spite of him. This shows how weak the AFC is after New England. It also points to one reason why New England seems to always be in the Super Bowl.

[beveaux1]

I think the NFC rep will win the Super Bowl this year as long as it's not Philly. I don't think they can beat New England.

[beveaux1]

What has Buck done to his hair?

[Rastak]

What has Buck done to his hair?

To quote Buck “that’s disgusting”

[Rastak]

You’d think at my age I’d Have this in perspective but i’m nervous as hell.

[pbmax]

now?

Seems less likely now.

[QBME]

OMG...the Steelers are wasting Bell/Brown/Rapistbergers Prime!!!

😀

[Rastak]

Seems less likely now.

Lol....

[mraynrand]

hey, I have a friend who is a Pittsburgh fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules Pittsburgh violated that Jacksonville followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and injuries because they don't count for the Packers. Heads need to roll!

[pbmax]

hey, I have a friend who is a Pittsburgh fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules Pittsburgh violated that Jacksonville followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and injuries because they don't count for the Packers. Heads need to roll!

Well, first, New England and Jacksonville do it the right way and the Steelers clearly do not. Mike Tomlin does not get IT! and doesn't seem to have a clue.

Similarly, Todd Haley has no idea what it takes to succeed on 4th down and the ST coach clearly was confused about that onside kick call.

To summarize, fire the GM!

[red]

Fouts, "This is pass interference" - oh bullshit - he barely touched him and played the ball......they shouldn't call it every damn play somebody barely touches someone.

his right hand might have lightly tapped him on the shoulder before his left hand knocked he ball away

that was a beautiful breakup IMO

[red]

hey, I have a friend who is a Pittsburgh fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules Pittsburgh violated that Jacksonville followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and injuries because they don't count for the Packers. Heads need to roll!

yes, tell him to grab a gun and stick it in your mouth

that should be a good start

can't believe you and the other trolls waste your time here in the offseason, but i guess you guys aren't here for the football in the first place, just here to be fucks trying to piss off as many people as you can

[pbmax]

his right hand might have lightly tapped him on the shoulder before his left hand knocked he ball away

that was a beautiful breakup IMO

It was interference. Hand on shoulder and bumped him from behind. You can't launch your self over the other guy even if you are making a play for the ball.

Playing footsie with the rule (well, it really wasn't that bad) is why the rules are in such sad shape.

[mraynrand]

yes, tell him to grab a gun and stick it in your mouth

that should be a good start

So the first thing you think of is putting a rod in the mouth. And I thought Freud had been debunked.

[Rastak]

It was interference. Hand on shoulder and bumped him from behind. You can't launch your self over the other guy even if you are making a play for the ball.

Playing footsie with the rule (well, it really wasn't that bad) is why the rules are in such sad shape.


Call it 80% of the time then.

[red]

Very poor coaching decisions.

lot of had scratching moments at the end of that game

i think tomlin has had time management issues in the past

[red]

It was interference. Hand on shoulder and bumped him from behind. You can't launch your self over the other guy even if you are making a play for the ball.

Playing footsie with the rule (well, it really wasn't that bad) is why the rules are in such sad shape.

i saw his hand bhind the shoulder, the at the shoulder, then in front of the shoulder all in about a half second. i don't see how he had tie to do anything but graze by it

[Rastak]

Lol - that’s the sort of thing ya can’t do - hint - turn around

Edit: horrible call on the second one.....

[beveaux1]

Bad call.

[esoxx]

What a joke of a PI call. Diggs just falls down. They should have a flop penalty against the offense on stuff like that.

[red]

btw, this is a ballsy move sticking with keenum over your original starter

gonna be a lot of second guessing all over if the queens lose this game

but you gotta stick with the hot hand and whats been working

[Rastak]

What a joke of a PI call. Diggs just falls down. They should have a flop penalty against the offense on stuff like that.

He fell down cause he was holding the defender, bad call.

[mraynrand]

28-7

58 yard fumble return for TD

thats a terrible rule, guy gets a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty for pointing at a guy trying to tackle him

you can legally hit someone as hard as you can, but no pointing

change the rule

[red]

when you're 6'6, you have to get more then 2 inches off the ground, even if you're white

[esoxx]

If I'm New Orleans, I'm flinging it deep over and over and telling my WR's to ham it up out there and draw a flag.

Let the refs decide a playoff game.

[mraynrand]

Let the refs decide a playoff game.


They might be a bit exhausted after Pittsburgh

[Rastak]

If I'm New Orleans, I'm flinging it deep over and over and telling my WR's to ham it up out there and draw a flag.

Let the refs decide a playoff game.

That goes both ways, not exactly a winning strategy.....

[beveaux1]

Brees looks bad today.

[esoxx]

That goes both ways, not exactly a winning strategy.....

Why not? Refs will bail out the WR more times than not with a PI call. They've already established they're going to be calling it tight. I think that is a winning strategy in this game, especially for NO as they're not going to move the ball in traditional manner.

[Rastak]

Why not? Refs will bail out the WR more times than not with a PI call. They've already established they're going to be calling it tight. I think that is a winning strategy in this game, especially for NO as they're not going to move the ball in traditional manner.

The Vikings can throw it deep and are winning. I’d trade long PI’s the rest of the game.

[esoxx]

In fact, I'm telling Ginn, my faster receiver, to run a take off route as fast/far as he can and I'm going to underthrow the ball on purpose. So then you stop in order to come back for it, the trailing DB will run in to you and we get a free 40-50 yards. Easy

Honestly, it should be part of the game plan.

[Maxie the Taxi]

hey, I have a friend who is a Pittsburgh fan and I need some advice on what to tell him tomorrow. Can the constitutive complainers here (Red, Woodcock, Runt, Yeti, etc. ) tell me which essential football rules Pittsburgh violated that Jacksonville followed and who all should be fired? And I don't want to hear anything about refs and injuries because they don't count for the Packers. Heads need to roll!

Pittsburgh shouldn't do anything different. You fans should be proud of your team. They did their best. You can't go the the Superb Owl every year. Steelers fans should be happy the team is in the playoffs every year. Losses happen. Injuries happen. Be realistic. The Steelers have the best owner in the league, the best organization, the best coach, the best QB and the best players. I'll publish stats soon that prove what I'm saying is indisputable fact.

The most satisfying four words in the English language are: "Wait till next year!"

Dilly! Dilly!

[Rastak]

In fact, I'm telling Ginn, my faster receiver, to run a take off route as fast/far as he can and I'm going to underthrow the ball on purpose. So then you stop in order to come back for it, the trailing DB will run in to you and we get a free 40-50 yards. Easy

Honestly, it should be part of the game plan.


To be honest, that does work....also both ways though.

[esoxx]

To be honest, that does work....also both ways though.

Right. So my original point stands. That is, NO should be flinging it up deep too since refs already established their incompetence and preference for touch PI calls.

Saints are underdog behind in this game against a great defense so it would benefit them greatly to employ this strategy.

[Rastak]

Right. So my original point stands. That is, NO should be flinging it up deep too since refs already established their incompetence and preference for touch PI calls.

Saints are underdog behind in this game against a great defense so it would benefit them greatly to employ this strategy.

Good on paper but maybe not in practice.

[esoxx]

I have Vikings -3 1st half so I'm fine with results so far.

Straight cash homey.

[Rastak]

I have Vikings -3 1st half so I'm fine with results so far.

Straight cash homey.

Lol - money is good. Damn, I should just drink a shitload of beer pass out and read about the game the next day....these playoff games are nerve racking, I know you guys have had some roller coaster doozies the last few years.

[esoxx]

Lol - money is good. Damn, I should just drink a shitload of beer pass out and read about the game the next day....these playoff games are nerve racking, I know you guys have had some roller coaster doozies the last few years.

Vikings seem in complete control and with that defense....that defense should calm the nerves.

[channtheman]

Gene comin' in with the holding call.

[Rastak]

Gene comin' in with the holding call.

Keenum doing the Ali shuffle...

[denverYooper]

These new team celebrations are pretty stupid.

[Rastak]

These new team celebrations are pretty stupid.

I hate it.

[channtheman]

These new team celebrations are pretty stupid.

No, they're "fun." Or something like that...

[denverYooper]

Zimmer and Payton look like your high school shop teacher vs your high school geometry teacher.

It's the glasses.

[Rastak]

Your guys favorite player.....

[Cheesehead Craig]

Game over. Vikes dominating and NO is flailing on both sides of the ball.

[Rastak]

Damn, Bud is 90....

[esoxx]

I'm going to support the only member of Packerrats (Rastak) that still has a shot at seeing his Team win a Super Bowl.

I'm LOYAL to Packerrats and Reality.

Hey Rastak, just wondering about this. Were you rooting for the Packers in 2010 playoffs on their road to the Super Bowl?

[denverYooper]

Your guys favorite dirty player.....

FIFY

[Rastak]

Manti and his fake girlfriend just missed him.

[Rastak]

FIFY

Dirty my ass....

Edit: dude, that was as routine a play as you can get. Anyone worth a shit hits the QB when can when he runs out of the pocket. Your own guys admitted as much.

[Rutnstrut]

Game over. Vikes dominating and NO is flailing on both sides of the ball.

Imagine that. A team that stresses defense and running the ball dominating, it can't be.

[denverYooper]

Dirty my ass....


Eww.

[Rastak]

Eww.


Didn’t come out exactly right.......

[Rastak]

Nice call by NO

[denverYooper]

Dirty my ass....

Edit: dude, that was as routine a play as you can get. Anyone worth a shit hits the QB when can when he runs out of the pocket. Your own guys admitted as much.

Look, nothing personal. Fandom is much about myth-building and legend-making as it is about the things that occur on the field. I don't really care who said what about the play and am not looking to have a debate about it. The bottom line is that Barr took out Rodgers for the season.

Winners, losers, heroes and villiains are all part of the fun. Barr is a villain until further notice due to nothing other my personal rooting allegiance and my conscious choice to inject narrative on top of the on-field product. Villains do evil things with malicious intent. Hence Barr is a dirty player, full of malicious intent.

[Rastak]

Look, nothing personal. Fandom is much about myth-building and legend-making as it is about the things that occur on the field. I don't really care who said what about the play and am not looking to have a debate about it. The bottom line is that Barr took out Rodgers for the season.

Winners, losers, heroes and villiains are all part of the fun. Barr is a villain until further notice due to nothing other my personal rooting allegiance and my conscious choice to inject narrative on top of the on-field product. Villains do evil things with malicious intent. Hence Barr is a dirty player, full of malicious intent.

Fair enough!

[channtheman]

Drew Brees got hit like that earlier with no call.

[Rastak]

Drew Brees got hit like that earlier with no call.

You mean Griffith? He didn’t knock his head back. I’m not a fan of those kind of calls.

[Rastak]

So, anyone think the Jags have any hope in NE?

[denverYooper]

So, anyone think the Jags have any hope in NE?

That one is a wildcard. It will be fun to see if the Jags D can get after Brady. If not, or if the Pats figure out how to turn their aggressiveness against them, they could get destroyed.

[esoxx]

So, anyone think the Jags have any hope in NE?

Saxonville is coming for Brady's ass.

[beveaux1]

Now we have a little bit of a game.

[Rastak]

Nice decision there bud....

[beveaux1]

Much closer game.

[Rutnstrut]

Saxonville is coming for Brady's ass.

And Brady will burn them.

[denverYooper]

Michael Thomas a villain in Minnesota yet?

[beveaux1]

Rhodes out. Zendejas out. Tough break.

[Rastak]

Michael Thomas a villain in Minnesota yet?

Nope,gotta be a cheap play for me at least....

[denverYooper]

And Brady will burn them.

That will be the story of that game, for sure -- whether or not the Jags pass rush is aggressive and great or just aggressive and good. Brady will kill the latter.

[Rastak]

Game on it looks like.....

[Pugger]

Perhaps a tale of 2 halfs?

[Rutnstrut]

Game on it looks like.....

Now if Zimmer doesn't get pass happy and try to make Keenum something he's not, I think the Vikes still have a good chance.

[ThunderDan]

Perhaps a tale of 2 halfs?

Looks like KC - Tenn from last week.

[Rastak]

Looks like KC - Tenn from last week.


More like the Jags Steelers from today....

[ThunderDan]

More like the Jags Steelers from today....

Really, it’s going to be 87 points?

[Rastak]

Really, it’s going to be 87 points?


Did I say that?

[Rastak]

Ha, he tosses away his second time out.......dumb ass.

[beveaux1]

Two bad challenges.

[ThunderDan]

18 point lead verses 17 point lead at half. 21-3 vs 17-0. NO only teamed that score in the 3rd quarter. Tenn only team that score in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

[red]

the hell is payton doing?

[red]

it was nice of fox to not show replays of either before they had to challenge

[ThunderDan]

it was nice of fox to not show replays of either before they had to challenge

I know they don’t show close plays at Lambeau. No reason not show them on tv.

[ThunderDan]

Man, I’ve seen a lot worse done to Packer WRs this year not called.

[denverYooper]

Jordan just jumped the heck out of that snap.

[esoxx]

I'm convinced Viking receivers are taught to flop to the ground on any grab or bump. It's actually a smart technique in today's NFL. They're ahead of the curve.

[esoxx]

Diggs is a straight up shit talker. Every catch or play he's involved in. Watch him and tell me he's not.

[Rastak]

He got there early....Bad call Troy you moron.

[red]

now its gotten interesting

[beveaux1]

Blocked! Taysom Hill

[denverYooper]

TAYSOM HILL SPECIAL TEAMS ALERT!!!!!

[Rastak]

Diggs is a straight up shit talker. Every catch or play he's involved in. Watch him and tell me he's not.


I agree, wish he’d STF up....

[ThunderDan]

Blocked! Taysom Hill

Nope but was close.

[red]

I'm convinced Viking receivers are taught to flop to the ground on any grab or bump. It's actually a smart technique in today's NFL. They're ahead of the curve.

theilen acted like he was shot on that one flag when the DB had his hands on his back

[Rastak]

Nice throw for sure....

[Cheesehead Craig]

Too soon.

[red]

Diggs is a straight up shit talker. Every catch or play he's involved in. Watch him and tell me he's not.

we had a guy that did that too

jarret bush

but he sucked at life

TD saints

[ThunderDan]

He got there early....Bad call Troy you moron.

Yup bang bang but he got there early.

[beveaux1]

Game on.

[red]

do you put in bradford?

[ThunderDan]

we had a guy that did that too

jarret bush

but he sucked at life

TD saints

Except when he fucked up his coverage and jump Rapelessberger in the Super Bowl for an int.

[ThunderDan]

Plenty of time left for Minn to score.

[red]

some old hag vikings fans yelling at goodell for not letting the queens win

[Rastak]

do you put in bradford?

Nope.

[red]

Except when he fucked up his coverage and jump Rapelessberger in the Super Bowl for an int.

even a dog can shit out a gold nugget every now and then

[Rastak]

Fuck, this is why I sorta hate football......*sigh*

[pbmax]

Let me just say that if it could, FOX would CGI Taysom Hill as blocking that punt. They were all ready to go to town on him at first.

[pbmax]

#90 got 6 seconds for the actual block and Hill got a minute for getting close.

This is why TV is stupid.

Royal dip Joe wants you to believe the punter was scared to death of Hill despite setting off to the right immediately, never looking up and not getting touched.

[red]

great catch while being held

[Bossman641]

Hell of a catch

[red]

Fuck, this is why I sorta hate football......*sigh*

sorry ras, but i'm enjoying it

football is fun when you don't have a horse in the race

[ThunderDan]

NO is going to miss not having those time outs.

[ThunderDan]

NO is going to miss not having those time outs.

Yes Troy I said that before you figured it out.

[red]

thats FG range

[red]

terrible throw

[beveaux1]

Why didn't the Vikings run the ball. They left too much time.

[Rastak]

Damn, clutch kick....

[ThunderDan]

Now Minn if they make this didn’t use enough time.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Heck of a game

[red]

dead center

[Bossman641]

Ras has keenum been playing like this all year? throwing them up and giving wr chance to make plays?

[red]

Why didn't the Vikings run the ball. They left too much time.

yup, against a hot saints offence, but they only have 1 timeout left

[denverYooper]

sorry ras, but i'm enjoying it

football is fun when you don't have a horse in the race

Yup. Good game.

[pbmax]

Yes joe. Payton wants to be down on the road.

[Rastak]

Ras has keenum been playing like this all year? throwing them up and giving wr chance to make plays?

Nope, only a couple of times....

[ThunderDan]

Tug, grab got his jersey. No call.

[pbmax]

I Think Fox missed a jersey grab

[Rastak]

I can’t watch...

[red]

wow

[Rastak]

Oh fucking well....

[red]

I can’t watch...

we've all been there lol

[ThunderDan]

Brees can sure throw the rock.

[Cheesehead Craig]

That might get reviewed

[beveaux1]

Franchise QB.

[ThunderDan]

That may have hit the ground.

[Rastak]

That might get reviewed

He caught it....

[pbmax]

Coming back.

[ThunderDan]

Horse collar on the tackle. Minn DB had him by the inside of his shoulder pads.

[esoxx]

That sweet lady that is celebrating her 100th birthday, Having mixed feelings here.

[Rastak]

Maybe the football gods even it up with the Walsh 27 miss in the playoff.....

[pbmax]

Show the replay again you dips.

[ThunderDan]

Run Kamara here.

[pbmax]

Don’t think that was right.

[beveaux1]

Couldn't tell if it touched the ground.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Can Keenum become a legend?

[Rastak]

Couldn't tell if it touched the ground.

Didn’t....

[beveaux1]

FG.

[pbmax]

AFC sucks. NFC rules.

[esoxx]

Don’t think that was right.

Really didn't matter, he drilled it

[Rastak]

Can Keenum become a legend?

Tough situation.....

[beveaux1]

Still some time.

[pbmax]

No burning ships posted today. Great game and effort.

[ThunderDan]

Opps, center needs to snap the ball.

[pbmax]

Except for the snap just now.

[beveaux1]

No timeouts remaining.

[pbmax]

Good from 65.

[ThunderDan]

Good from 65.

Not with Taysum Hill on NO. No kick is safe.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Here comes the long pass hoping for a DPI

[Rastak]

I knew this shit would happen.....*sigh*

[Rastak]

What the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

[Rutnstrut]

Holy shit, that was awesome.

[beveaux1]

Great play.!!