Compensary Picks 2018

[jklowan]

Any Ideas on what the Packers may get and when does the NFL release these

I've seen a 3rd/5th/7th & 3rd/(4) 5ths

what say the rat brains?

[Joemailman]

Comp picks are announced at the end of February. https://overthecap.com/draft/ has the Packers with 1 3rd (Lang) and 3 5ths (Tretter, Hyde, Cook). Bennett doers not count against the formula because he was released. They would have a 6th for Lacy, but there is a maximum of 4 picks for a single team.

[Fritz]

The Packers rarely get a third, and Lang got hurt toward the end of the season, so I'm guessing the Packers get screwed as always: a fourth, two fifths, and a sixth.

[Joemailman]

The Packers rarely get a third, and Lang got hurt toward the end of the season, so I'm guessing the Packers get screwed as always: a fourth, two fifths, and a sixth.

He signed a huge contract. And he made the Pro Bowl. That alone is probably enough to get a 3rd.

[red]

The Packers rarely get a third, and Lang got hurt toward the end of the season, so I'm guessing the Packers get screwed as always: a fourth, two fifths, and a sixth.

I think it has everything to do with the contract and nothing for how they played or anything else

[Joemailman]

I think it has everything to do with the contract and nothing for how they played or anything else

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/


As the NFL explains, compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose more or better compensatory free agents than they acquire. The number of picks a team can receive equals the net loss of compensatory free agents, up to a maximum of four. Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. Not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.

Although the formula has never been revealed, by studying the compensatory picks that have been awarded since they began in 1994, I’ve determined that the primary factor in the value of the picks awarded is the average annual value of the contract the player signed with his new team, with an adjustment for playing time and a smaller adjustment for postseason honors.

[Fritz]

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/

I can't remember how many games Lang missed, but I believe the Lions signed another former Packer to fill in. Maybe Donnie Barclay.

According to the formula as suggested above, the amount of time Lang missed may allow the league to screw the Packers again. But I hope not. An end-of-third-round pick would be sweet. See what GuttyKlump can do with that.

Can they trade the compensatory picks now? I thought I read last year that this was going to be allowed.

[Joemailman]

I can't remember how many games Lang missed, but I believe the Lions signed another former Packer to fill in. Maybe Donnie Barclay.

According to the formula as suggested above, the amount of time Lang missed may allow the league to screw the Packers again. But I hope not. An end-of-third-round pick would be sweet. See what GuttyKlump can do with that.

Can they trade the compensatory picks now? I thought I read last year that this was going to be allowed.

Lang started 13 games. I think that's enough to keep it a 3rd round pick. Yes, you can trade comp picks.

[bobblehead]

Comp picks are announced at the end of February. https://overthecap.com/draft/ has the Packers with 1 3rd (Lang) and 3 5ths (Tretter, Hyde, Cook). Bennett doers not count against the formula because he was released. They would have a 6th for Lacy, but there is a maximum of 4 picks for a single team.

Makes perfect sense that we lose a guy who makes the pro bowl and get a 5th. I know they say its based on contract, but other years we lose a big contract guy who has a crappy year and end up with a 4th.

[woodbuck27]

Comment: When are we expecting this decision to be made?

https://lombardiave.com/2018/01/15/packers-four-compensatory-2018-nfl-draft/

Packers could land four compensatory picks in 2018 NFL Draft

By: Freddie Boston ... 1 month ago

[woodbuck27]

Projected compensatory picks:

It's looking like Four -- 1 Round 3 and 1 Round 5 and 2 picks in Round 7

FA losses: Jared Cook (Raiders), Micah Hyde (Bills), Eddie Lacy (Seahawks), T.J. Lang (Lions), JC Tretter (Browns)

FA additions: Martellus Bennett, Jahri Evans

The loss of Micah Hyde was cancelled by the addition of Martellus Bennett.

The losses of Lang and Tretter hopefully will bring 3rd- and 5th Rd. Picks.

Jared Cook and Eddie Lacy will bring either sixth- or seventh-round picks. That's dependent upon snap count.

[smuggler]

Bennett doesn't count because he didn't remain on the roster long enough.

[pbmax]

OTC missed the 3rd/4th round cutoff and it hurt his projections for the Packers and Lang.

They get 1 fourth (33rd-133), 2 fifths (35-172, 37-174) and a sixth (33-207).

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-daily-news-story/article-1/Packers-awarded-four-compensatory-draft-picks/161f12ef-f4f4-4918-a9ec-2f66b83132c6

[pbmax]

From Schefty:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWwJrPuW0AAe5jA.jpg:large

[Guiness]

OTC missed the 3rd/4th round cutoff and it hurt his projections for the Packers and Lang.

They get 1 fourth (33rd-133), 2 fifths (35-172, 37-174) and a sixth (33-207).

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-daily-news-story/article-1/Packers-awarded-four-compensatory-draft-picks/161f12ef-f4f4-4918-a9ec-2f66b83132c6

Packers got a good a haul as anyone. They got 4 picks, including the top comp pick in the 4th round. The Bengals are the only team with a 3rd round comp to also receive 4 picks, but they also got two 7th round picks.

[pbmax]

Yep. Only Cardinals could be arguable better. Took one big loss (Hyde) though.


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[Anti-Polar Bear]

Big loss? Mr Hyde? The Packer D was actually better last season without Mr Hyde than in 2016 with Mr Hyde.

[bobblehead]

Big loss? Mr Hyde? The Packer D was actually better last season without Mr Hyde than in 2016 with Mr Hyde.

And since that was the ONLY change in the defense it must be the reason. Oh, and Hyde made the pro bowl. I know we don't need any pro bowl DBs.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

And since that was the ONLY change in the defense it must be the reason. Oh, and Hyde made the pro bowl. I know we don't need any pro bowl DBs.

I don't waste time watching Bills games, so I don't know what Mr. Hyde did in Buffalo that earned him a Pro Bowl birth in the popularity contest, but this much is universal truth: Mr. Hyde did not play at the so-called Pro Bowl level as a Packer.

Mr. Hyde was an abomination. In fact, the only good deed Hyde committed in the Green and Gold was the time he saved Kap from the disgrace of throwing a game-ending pick-6 in the clutch in a playoff game by dropping that gimme pick-6 Kap threw right a him.

Mr. Hyde was slower than a sloth. Covered poorer than Martinez did last season (and Martinez is a fucking LB who can't cover worth a lick). Opposing offenses threw to whomever Hyde was covering when they needed a 1st down. Threw to whomever Hyde was covering when they needed a touchdown. Successfully. An abomination, indeed.

I'm not a big fan of the Polar Bear, but his decision to let Mr. Hyde walk ranks right up there, excellency-wise, with his decision to draft some cocky QB from Butte Community College with Sherman's 24th overall pick.

[pbmax]

They could have used Hyde this year, even if he didn't start at his natural safety position.

They put less talented safeties in the games near the end of the season because of CB injuries. Hyde could play the slot CB better than anyone but Randall.

[smuggler]

A bunch of dumb fucking bullshit.

It seems in your autism, you also managed to avoid wasting time watching any Packers games in the last few years.

Hyde is nothing special, but he would have been a boon to the defense in 2017. Now, if you want to talk benefit at a price point, then maybe you'd have half a leg to stand on. Or kneel on. Free country.

[KYPack]

Sheezus Fanboy, that is one lame post. Not only don't you know how to evaluate players and their relative talent, you don't have a clue about football or how it is played.

Why don't you PM Bobble or ND, they may be able to help your dumb ass (but, I doubt it).

Just be honest and tell 'em your are a fool that keeps getting fooled. Add a "please help me" and see what happens.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

It seems in your autism, you also managed to avoid wasting time watching any Packers games in the last few years.

Hyde is nothing special, but he would have been a boon to the defense in 2017. Now, if you want to talk benefit at a price point, then maybe you'd have half a leg to stand on. Or kneel on. Free country.

Yeah, Todd was so fucking cheap, he allowed this great slot corner to walk without even a goodbye. Mr. Hyde was so great a slot corner, the Bills moved him to safety.

Hyde played mostly the slot for the Packers, and he was awful at it. Made Rollins look like C-Wood. An abomination - for every big play Hyde made, he gave up 20. Simply put, Hyde sucked. The Packers lost Hayward b/c the coaches and Todd erroneously thought Hyde was a better corner than C-Hay.

[pbmax]

Hyde was fine as a slot corner, but he was not going to shut anyone down in the Packer scheme. You need to be quick like Randall or an Octopus like King to do it.

Hyde was solid and reliable, two traits pretty rare during his roster stay. But if he could actually play safety at a Pro Bowl level, then Dix shouldn't be here or Burnett should have been traded/released.

Another case of round peg and only square holes available in the scheme if he is really that good.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Hyde was fine as a slot corner, but he was not going to shut anyone down in the Packer scheme. You need to be quick like Randall or an Octopus like King to do it.

Hyde was solid and reliable, two traits pretty rare during his roster stay. But if he could actually play safety at a Pro Bowl level, then Dix shouldn't be here or Burnett should have been traded/released.

Another case of round peg and only square holes available in the scheme if he is really that good.

Hyde's not gonna shut down anyone in any scheme - not in the Packers's scheme, not in the Bills'. He's not a shutdown corner. He's a goddamn safety.

If "solid" means allowing 20 big plays for every big play a player makes, then I guess Mr. Hyde was a solid slot corner. But I'm pretty sure that's not the definition of solid. Solid might be D. Adams last season. Solid was never Hyde.

I, for one, am jolly Mr. Hyde's not donning the Green and Gold anymore.

[pbmax]

Hyde's not gonna shut down anyone in any scheme - not in the Packers's scheme, not in the Bills'. He's not a shutdown corner. He's a goddamn safety.

If "solid" means allowing 20 big plays for every big play a player makes, then I guess Mr. Hyde was a solid slot corner. But I'm pretty sure that's not the definition of solid. Solid might be D. Adams last season. Solid was never Hyde.

I, for one, am jolly Mr. Hyde's not donning the Green and Gold anymore.

He was assignment sure (solid) and he could tackle. He was a safety. Another example of "versatile" parts being played out of position on defense.

But he was also close to the best slot player they had over the course of his time here.

But even with his limitations and being out of position, he would have helped last year. Just too many injuries.

[bobblehead]

Mr. Hyde was an abomination. In fact, the only good deed Hyde committed in the Green and Gold was the time he saved Kap from the disgrace of throwing a game-ending pick-6 in the clutch in a playoff game by dropping that gimme pick-6 Kap threw right a him.


Yep. But he didn't spare Dak Prescott the same embarrassment. In fact, if he hadn't made that pick perhaps the entire team would have been spared what Atlanta did to them.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Yep. But he didn't spare Dak Prescott the same embarrassment. In fact, if he hadn't made that pick perhaps the entire team would have been spared what Atlanta did to them.

A sloth like Rollins could've/would've taken that pick to the house. Hyde was so fucking slow, he got caught from behind despite nothing but daylight ahead of him. Score and Pack go up 35-13; game over. Subsequently, Rodgers threw pick and Cowboys marched right back to score TD, deeming that pick irrelevant.

The next week, Matty Ice made Hyde his bitch.

[run pMc]

Hyde was instinctive but not fast. Good punt returner, smart, but had some limitations. The way he played -- and was used by Capers -- here, he wasn't worth the $5-6M/yr he got from Buffalo IMO. There wasn't really anything to indicate he was better than Burnett or Ha-Ha at the start of the season. I'm happy for him that he got paid and has had success.

Hayward was hurt half his time here, but showed he could play in the slot and IIRC some zone. I thought not signing him was a good move at the time, but the injuries and depth at CB combined with his success make me wonder.

I also wonder about Capers' scheme and how players were used. Players having Pro Bowl success the year they move on is a better look for the personnel department than the coaches.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Hyde was instinctive but not fast. Good punt returner, smart, but had some limitations. The way he played -- and was used by Capers -- here, he wasn't worth the $5-6M/yr he got from Buffalo IMO. There wasn't really anything to indicate he was better than Burnett or Ha-Ha at the start of the season. I'm happy for him that he got paid and has had success.

Hayward was hurt half his time here, but showed he could play in the slot and IIRC some zone. I thought not signing him was a good move at the time, but the injuries and depth at CB combined with his success make me wonder.

I also wonder about Capers' scheme and how players were used. Players having Pro Bowl success the year they move on is a better look for the personnel department than the coaches.

Maybe Hyde was "solid" on special teams, but defensively, he was a liability. Couldn't cover anyone. His tackling was not as good as some believe. Pretty sure McGinn, in his awesome post game grading, called out Hyde a tons for his missed tackles, as well as his abominable coverage.

Hayward might still be in Green Bay today had Todd trade the Packers' 2015 1st rounder, plus Lindsey or Tretter, to the Aints for Jimmy Graham. SD signed Hayward for $4 M/yr - that's a bargain for a player of Hayward's kung fu.

[woodbuck27]

OTC missed the 3rd/4th round cutoff and it hurt his projections for the Packers and Lang.

They get 1 fourth (33rd-133), 2 fifths (35-172, 37-174) and a sixth (33-207).

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-daily-news-story/article-1/Packers-awarded-four-compensatory-draft-picks/161f12ef-f4f4-4918-a9ec-2f66b83132c6

Thanks.