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pbmax

03-25-2018, 05:20 PM

I'm not sure what is up with Thomas; he sure looked good on his first team but he was invisible after. Wonder if his attitude/work ethic is junk.

I'd take Jenkins for what he signed over Thomas

He looked great with Manning. Without Manning's talent, he looks like less.

Now only if the Packers had a comparable talent ...

pbmax

03-25-2018, 05:20 PM

Would also like to see Cutler for 5 mil a year if he would sign that. We need to have a veteran who can get us to the playoffs in an emergency imo.

If it weren't Rodgers contract year, this idea is not the worst.

Bretsky

03-25-2018, 05:33 PM

If it weren't Rodgers contract year, this idea is not the worst.

One UNSAID is the fact that GB is trying to extend Rodgers...and from what is sounds like his agent might be asking for

That is going to damage our flexibility in Free Agency so I think GB might be hesitant.

Rodgers isn't giving GB the Tom Brady Deal IMO

pbmax

03-25-2018, 07:04 PM

One UNSAID is the fact that GB is trying to extend Rodgers...and from what is sounds like his agent might be asking for

That is going to damage our flexibility in Free Agency so I think GB might be hesitant.

Rodgers isn't giving GB the Tom Brady Deal IMO

They have had 3 years to prep. And months since JG signed. Either they are ready or they are not.

No need for a discount.

They have only leveraged one vet to clear space and that vet was almost retained. They are ready and the only thing screwing up their plans are the overheated CB market and Cousins level of guaranteed money.

Bretsky

03-25-2018, 07:33 PM

They have had 3 years to prep. And months since JG signed. Either they are ready or they are not.

No need for a discount.

They have only leveraged one vet to clear space and that vet was almost retained. They are ready and the only thing screwing up their plans are the overheated CB market and Cousins level of guaranteed money.

The Cousins Deal REALLY screwed them

Also, being reported they may be working in some verbiage allowing AROD to stay at top of QB salaries through some or all of his deal. That complicates things as well

And the CB need for everybody is making all challenging

Teamcheez1

03-25-2018, 07:53 PM

The Cousins Deal REALLY screwed them

Also, being reported they may be working in some verbiage allowing AROD to stay at top of QB salaries through some or all of his deal. That complicates things as well

And the CB need for everybody is making all challenging

You give Arod a contract comparable to Cousins for 3 or 4 years. He needs to give a little bit to ensure we can sign people down the road. Other QB's have done this, and he can too.

We could always use the tag down the road to retain or apply pressure to him . Thing is, I don't know if we want to keep him until he's 40 like Brees or Brady.

yetisnowman

03-25-2018, 08:21 PM

You give Arod a contract comparable to Cousins for 3 or 4 years. He needs to give a little bit to ensure we can sign people down the road. Other QB's have done this, and he can too.

We could always use the tag down the road to retain or apply pressure to him . Thing is, I don't know if we want to keep him until he's 40 like Brees or Brady.

Why in God's name wouldn't we? Brady is playing as efficient as he ever has at 40. Rodgers has had a few flukey injuries, but takes care of himself and I have no reason to think he won't be a top tier qb in 5 years. He seems to have the makeup for it.

yetisnowman

03-25-2018, 08:29 PM

And agree with PB. Aaron has carried scrubs for a few years all while being roughly the 8-10th highest paid qb in the league. Its his time to get paid. If the Packers are ill prepared due to poor financial planning and terrible drafting that's not A-Rod's problem.

call_me_ishmael

03-25-2018, 10:18 PM

call_me_ishmael

03-25-2018, 10:20 PM

I would not be surprised to see Bowman here after how well he played in Oak.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 08:53 AM

I'd like to have a conversation here.

Why give in to ARods demands? Seriously. He's going to turn 35 in 2018, 36 in 2019. We can exclusive rights franchise him and keep him around for the season he turns 37. What, is he not going to play? Okay, he's already pretty darn old at 37. I bet he could go out and land a fat contract if he wanted still at 37, but if the Packers wanted to go the replacement route, they have a couple years to get a person in the position to be ready.

Is anyone going to hold out the season for 22M and cost themselves more than that in endorsements? No way. It would be a financially ill-advised move for Aaron to sit out.

I don't get it. We have all of the leverage here.

Could this be why they brought in the kid from Cleveland? So he could be ready to start year 4 like 'Rod did?

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Poisoning the well. Also possible he would not show up for work under the tag. He has the leverage to pull that off. Cousins, who had never received big money, did not.

You would also be encouraging him not to play the Rodgers extended offense, which sometimes, against good defenses, is the only offense.

Leverage? If Rodgers doesn't show up until Week 6, no one on staff will be safe. Goodbye McCarthy, goodbye Ball and Gutenkunst.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 08:59 AM

He needs to give a little bit to ensure we can sign people down the road. Other QB's have done this, and he can too.

One top QB has done this and reportedly he regrets it because the help at WR arrived 3 years late.

I'd love to know who else is signing below market deals for the hometown team. Its not up to the player to make this happen.

call_me_ishmael

03-26-2018, 10:35 AM

Poisoning the well. Also possible he would not show up for work under the tag. He has the leverage to pull that off. Cousins, who had never received big money, did not.

You would also be encouraging him not to play the Rodgers extended offense, which sometimes, against good defenses, is the only offense.

Leverage? If Rodgers doesn't show up until Week 6, no one on staff will be safe. Goodbye McCarthy, goodbye Ball and Gutenkunst.

If he sits out 6 weeks, all the coaching staff needs to do is say he is being a troublemaker and bye-bye ~20M in endorsements in addition to 6 weeks of salary. Would not be a smart move financially if he is made out to be a diva.

FWIW, I don't think they should do this, but this notion that he deserves to constantly be the top paid player, a full guarantee, etc is silly. The Packers have all the leverage right now and his deal is effectively guaranteed anyway.

Teamcheez1

03-26-2018, 10:53 AM

I don't know where the numbers may end up, but are some suggesting AR should be getting a $200M+ guaranteed contract (for 4 or 5 years)? If that's the case, my answer is no.

bobblehead

03-26-2018, 10:53 AM

I'd like to have a conversation here.

Why give in to ARods demands? Seriously. He's going to turn 35 in 2018, 36 in 2019. We can exclusive rights franchise him and keep him around for the season he turns 37. What, is he not going to play? Okay, he's already pretty darn old at 37. I bet he could go out and land a fat contract if he wanted still at 37, but if the Packers wanted to go the replacement route, they have a couple years to get a person in the position to be ready.

Is anyone going to hold out the season for 22M and cost themselves more than that in endorsements? No way. It would be a financially ill-advised move for Aaron to sit out.

I don't get it. We have all of the leverage here.

Could this be why they brought in the kid from Cleveland? So he could be ready to start year 4 like 'Rod did?

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled programming.

That would be a very TT thing to do. TT isn't in charge anymore, and I doubt the new brass has the brass to take that PR hit for "treating ARod bad after all he has done for the franchise".

Incidentally we could franchise him for 2 years and control him through age 38.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 11:22 AM

Also consider this: The QB franchise tag is $23.189 mil. But ...

Bleacher Report[/B] (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1960713-how-the-nfl-franchise-tag-process-works)"]The exclusive tag amount is pretty simple to calculate. It's either an average of the five largest salaries at the offered players' position at the end of restricted free agency this season, or 120 percent of the offered player's current salary—whichever is greater.

Rodgers salary alone is $20 mil in 2020 (if his likely to be earned bonuses are included, its $21.1 mil). At a minimum (franchise QB number may exceed this in two years) he will earn $24 million in year one of the Franchise tag. In Year 2, he earns $28.8.

That is $52.8 mil in cap space and cash. The team does get year by year protection. But zero help in getting the cap number down.

Why hamstring yourself this way for injury protection when you can give him a longer deal and then bury the acceleration of the signing bonus in later years when the cap is higher.

This tag would be reverse Brady. Or reverse Belichickism if you prefer.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 12:55 PM

FWIW, I don't think they should do this, but this notion that he deserves to constantly be the top paid player, a full guarantee, etc is silly. The Packers have all the leverage right now and his deal is effectively guaranteed anyway.

If you were the best, you would want a market level contract.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 12:59 PM

If he sits out 6 weeks, all the coaching staff needs to do is say he is being a troublemaker and bye-bye ~20M in endorsements in addition to 6 weeks of salary. Would not be a smart move financially if he is made out to be a diva.

I remember this working out so well with Bert. And that was when they had a viable replacement in hand for the QB position.

If the Packers have all the leverage, why are they negotiating?

pbmax

03-26-2018, 01:01 PM

I don't know where the numbers may end up, but are some suggesting AR should be getting a $200M+ guaranteed contract (for 4 or 5 years)? If that's the case, my answer is no.

$40 or $50 mil a year guaranteed?

I have not read that anywhere. More like $30 million per year with most of it guaranteed over the course of a 4 year extension.

Teamcheez1

03-26-2018, 01:26 PM

$40 or $50 mil a year guaranteed?

I have not read that anywhere. More like $30 million per year with most of it guaranteed over the course of a 4 year extension.

If that's the case, than it's probably fair.

Anti-Polar Bear

03-26-2018, 01:31 PM

Get Rodgers to wed Kate Upton or Jennifer Lawrence. Problem solved.

#HometownDiscount #Belichickism #TB12

call_me_ishmael

03-26-2018, 02:08 PM

If you were the best, you would want a market level contract.

On one hand, I am dirt poor so I agree with you.

On the other, Aaron has so much money and makes so much already and his future earnings will be tied to his legacy. With that in mind, maybe keeping the salary 8M lower for the next three years to ensure much greater future earnings via a legacy may be a smart gamble on his part. Not sure.

ThunderDan

03-26-2018, 02:41 PM

If you were the best, you would want a market level contract.

And he will be the highest paid player when he signs his next contact. Just like I think he was when he signed the last. Contracts are constantly increasing, today's highest paid, is three year's from now out of the top 10.

pbmax

03-26-2018, 04:43 PM

Get Rodgers to wed Kate Upton or Jennifer Lawrence. Problem solved.

#HometownDiscount #Belichickism #TB12

Kate would need to divorce Justin Verlander. Who probably has more money than ARod and a much smaller chance of breaking a clavicle.

red

03-26-2018, 05:40 PM

And he will be the highest paid player when he signs his next contact. Just like I think he was when he signed the last. Contracts are constantly increasing, today's highest paid, is three year's from now out of the top 10.

exactly

Anti-Polar Bear

03-27-2018, 03:42 AM

Kate would need to divorce Justin Verlander. Who probably has more money than ARod and a much smaller chance of breaking a clavicle.

J-Law? If I were an alpha male like A-Rod, I'd do everything in my power to woo her. She's beautiful.

Fritz

03-27-2018, 05:22 AM

Get Rodgers to wed Kate Upton or Jennifer Lawrence. Problem solved.

#HometownDiscount #Belichickism #TB12

I vote for Jennifer Lawrence. She's hot in a really sultry way.

Besides, Upton's taken, by Justin Verlander.

woodbuck27

03-27-2018, 09:57 AM

One UNSAID is the fact that GB is trying to extend Rodgers...and from what is sounds like his agent might be asking for

That is going to damage our flexibility in Free Agency so I think GB might be hesitant.

Rodgers isn't giving GB the Tom Brady Deal IMO

Green Bay is in a tough spot with ARod.

If he wants another Ring and to shoot for a greater Legacy!? He needs to be like Tom Brady and leave CAP Space to strengthen the Roster.

I think it would be ill advised to think - "TAG him" with that chip on his shoulder attitude.

Packer Nation needs to see an 'Every One is Happy' Aaron Rodgers Contract in Green Bay.

woodbuck27

03-27-2018, 10:12 AM

Get Rodgers to wed Kate Upton or Jennifer Lawrence. Problem solved.

#HometownDiscount #Belichickism #TB12

He's going to need to be worth more than any Girlfriend (future Wife) Eh !? :-)

woodbuck27

03-27-2018, 10:34 AM

$40 or $50 mil a year guaranteed?

I have not read that anywhere. More like $30 million per year with most of it guaranteed over the course of a 4 year extension.

I'm going to predict a minimum New Contract in the min. $35 Million/Year to 38 Million/Year Range for four Years with a Minimum $100 Million Guaranteed.

I predict that the minimum Contract that Aaron Rodgers will sign will be handy to 145 Million - Four Year Contract.

Aaron Rodgers Agent will push for his client to get the highest contract in the NFL as he's considered generally as the NFL's finest talent.

It will now be all on the Packer Brass to make up for lost time and retaining Ted Thompson as the Packer GM. It's not going to be easy but within three Seasons we might see the Packers in another Super Bowl Game.

BZnDallas

03-30-2018, 09:21 PM

I'm going to predict a minimum New Contract in the min. $35 Million/Year to 38 Million/Year Range for four Years with a Minimum $100 Million Guaranteed.

I predict that the minimum Contract that Aaron Rodgers will sign will be handy to 145 Million - Four Year Contract.

Aaron Rodgers Agent will push for his client to get the highest contract in the NFL as he's considered generally as the NFL's finest talent.

It will now be all on the Packer Brass to make up for lost time and retaining Ted Thompson as the Packer GM. It's not going to be easy but within three Seasons we might see the Packers in another Super Bowl Game.

My guess since the Cousins signing has been 5 years, $150 million with $100 million guaranteed. $30 million per basically. Not sure how to tie a percentage of the cap into that. But there are much smarter people out there than I to figure that out.

mraynrand

03-31-2018, 12:12 AM

J-Law? If I were an alpha male like A-Rod, I'd do everything in my power to woo her. She's beautiful.

I heard she was talking a year off for activism. Did that start last month, or was it retroactive to before 'Mother!'

Anti-Polar Bear

03-31-2018, 12:49 PM

I heard she was talking a year off for activism. Did that start last month, or was it retroactive to before 'Mother!'

What?! Mother! sucked, although J-Law's acting was as always outstanding. Her new flick, Red Sparrow, has been out in theater for almost a month now. She plays a Russian spy.

Been meaning to go see it, but when one flips burgers for the minimum wage, it's hard to get a date without paying the chick for her time. And when you flip burger for the minimum-wage, it's hard to find to the fund to pay the chick, which leads you to a Redskin casino to play poker in hope of winning enough for a companion. You always end up losing all your money cos even if you do everything right, Hold'em is still mainly a game of chance.

Rand, you are part Russian, so I'm sure you'll enjoy Red Sparrow.

mraynrand

03-31-2018, 01:40 PM

Been meaning to go see it, but when one flips burgers for the minimum wage, it's hard to get a date without paying the chick for her time. And when you flip burger for the minimum-wage, it's hard to find to the fund to pay the chick, which leads you to a Redskin casino to play poker in hope of winning enough for a companion. You always end up losing all your money cos even if you do everything right, Hold'em is still mainly a game of chance.

Even the most liberal slots in town only return 98.7% - I'm talking about the slots at the casino, of course.

ThunderDan

03-31-2018, 05:00 PM

You always end up losing all your money cos even if you do everything right, Hold'em is still mainly a game of chance.

Not really. I paid off my first house and was winning 20,000+ per year playing 10/20 PLO and NL Hold’em until they shut down online poker.

The Shadow

03-31-2018, 05:52 PM

What?! Mother! sucked, although J-Law's acting was as always outstanding. Her new flick, Red Sparrow, has been out in theater for almost a month now. She plays a Russian spy.

Been meaning to go see it, but when one flips burgers for the minimum wage, it's hard to get a date without paying the chick for her time. And when you flip burger for the minimum-wage, it's hard to find to the fund to pay the chick, which leads you to a Redskin casino to play poker in hope of winning enough for a companion. You always end up losing all your money cos even if you do everything right, Hold'em is still mainly a game of chance.

Rand, you are part Russian, so I'm sure you'll enjoy Red Sparrow.
..................................

She effortlessly covered her entire acting range from Point A to Point B.

red

03-31-2018, 07:02 PM

j-law can't act for shit. she just plays every character the same, thats not acting at all

and she's like a 7 IMO, i really don't find her all that hot, very average looking to me

wist43

03-31-2018, 08:25 PM

j-law can't act for shit. she just plays every character the same, thats not acting at all

and she's like a 7 IMO, i really don't find her all that hot, very average looking to me

She's American and a leftist, so that means she has a shitty attitude and would be a bitch to be around; she's a millenial, so that means she's ignorant and can't carry on a conversation with words that have more than two syllables; and, she's white, so that means she's gonna be fat and have bumpy cellulite pasty white skin sagging all over the place when she gets past 40.

No thanks to all of that :)

mraynrand

03-31-2018, 08:59 PM

she's white, so that means she's gonna be fat and have bumpy cellulite pasty white skin sagging all over the place when she gets past 40.

eww!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/37/8e/99378e5e8324ec65e6011e041ec9062b.jpg

wist43

04-01-2018, 02:27 AM

eww!

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/37/8e/99378e5e8324ec65e6011e041ec9062b.jpg

There are exceptions... however rare :)

Anti-Polar Bear

04-01-2018, 09:05 AM

Not really. I paid off my first house and was winning 20,000+ per year playing 10/20 PLO and NL Hold’em until they shut down online poker.

Why aren't you living in Vegas? If I had your kung fu and your bankroll, I'd be in Vegas grinding it out at the tables.

Not sure about PLO, but the popular NLH is mainly a game of chance. Say, you're playing 5/10, you have $1000 in front of you and you're in position. A chick with a stack of $700 acts first with QQ and raises to 50. The guy next to her, sitting with a stack of 2000, calls with 5, 7 of clubs. You have A,K off-suited, and since you're in position, you decide to re-raise to 120. The chick with QQ calls. The guy with suited cards think for a bit before calling. On the flop, you flopped the nut straight. Chick with QQ hits her set and goes all in. Suited guy, hoping to force you to fold, re-raises all in with a flush draw. What the fuck are you supposed to do, fold? You shove all your chips. The turn is a blank card. The river doesn't pair the community cards, but lo and behold, it's a club, even tough the chick and you each hold a club.

Game of chance.

Anti-Polar Bear

04-01-2018, 09:16 AM

j-law can't act for shit. she just plays every character the same, thats not acting at all

and she's like a 7 IMO, i really don't find her all that hot, very average looking to me

Not true. But you're right about one thing: she's consistent. Consistently outstanding.

She's a 10 in my book, although I'd prefer not to denote women by numbers. That's sexist. :)

Anti-Polar Bear

04-01-2018, 10:20 AM

She's American and a leftist, so that means she has a shitty attitude and would be a bitch to be around; she's a millenial, so that means she's ignorant and can't carry on a conversation with words that have more than two syllables; and, she's white, so that means she's gonna be fat and have bumpy cellulite pasty white skin sagging all over the place when she gets past 40.

No thanks to all of that :)

See Onion thread in FYI.

ThunderDan

04-01-2018, 09:21 PM

Why aren't you living in Vegas? If I had your kung fu and your bankroll, I'd be in Vegas grinding it out at the tables.

Not sure about PLO, but the popular NLH is mainly a game of chance. Say, you're playing 5/10, you have $1000 in front of you and you're in position. A chick with a stack of $700 acts first with QQ and raises to 50. The guy next to her, sitting with a stack of 2000, calls with 5, 7 of clubs. You have A,K off-suited, and since you're in position, you decide to re-raise to 120. The chick with QQ calls. The guy with suited cards think for a bit before calling. On the flop, you flopped the nut straight. Chick with QQ hits her set and goes all in. Suited guy, hoping to force you to fold, re-raises all in with a flush draw. What the fuck are you supposed to do, fold? You shove all your chips. The turn is a blank card. The river doesn't pair the community cards, but lo and behold, it's a club, even tough the chick and you each hold a club.

Game of chance.

Except over time you will win money. The percentages are in your favor. You may lose that time and the next but over 100 hands you will have a nice stack in front of you.

If that hand breaks you and takes your bankroll you are playing too high of stakes.

woodbuck27

04-02-2018, 07:30 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/37/8e/99378e5e8324ec65e6011e041ec9062b.jpg

There are exceptions... however rare :)

She's looking 40ish; but to emphasize a more important fact it's pretty obvious her ancestry is made up of 'physical genetically inferior'all white Caucasian Genes.

She also likely has too much money to waste eating chocolate and candy.

woodbuck27

04-02-2018, 07:53 AM

Why aren't you living in Vegas? If I had your kung fu and your bankroll, I'd be in Vegas grinding it out at the tables.

Not sure about PLO, but the popular NLH is mainly a game of chance. Say, you're playing 5/10, you have $1000 in front of you and you're in position. A chick with a stack of $700 acts first with QQ and raises to 50. The guy next to her, sitting with a stack of 2000, calls with 5, 7 of clubs. You have A,K off-suited, and since you're in position, you decide to re-raise to 120. The chick with QQ calls. The guy with suited cards think for a bit before calling. On the flop, you flopped the nut straight. Chick with QQ hits her set and goes all in. Suited guy, hoping to force you to fold, re-raises all in with a flush draw. What the fuck are you supposed to do, fold? You shove all your chips. The turn is a blank card. The river doesn't pair the community cards, but lo and behold, it's a club, even tough the chick and you each hold a club.

Game of chance.

Holy Cow Tank your spitting out Texas Holdem' Poker terminology that ThunderDEan might find a tad challenging. He's hardly a mature Adult. :???:

I always say this and Poker.

Only the smartest and the dumbest Poker players lose BIG POTS. Poker is never about any hand but the Session is all.

I feel I can sit at a Poker Table with over the required time; 95 % of the entire World's self deemed GREAT Poker Players, and before the first hand is dealt. KNOW that I own their chips.

Poker is about 'common sense'and Math Skills; and some decent luck (you need good Pockets).

After that it's a Marathon not a Sprint.

mraynrand

04-02-2018, 10:28 AM

^^^ If you guys are all such awesome poker players, where the hell are your private islands, jets, and yachts? Lets see some pictures! :)

Upnorth

04-02-2018, 12:12 PM

Poker? I hardly knew her.

With the intersection of attractive girl and gambling that was occurring someone had to make this comment.

Anti-Polar Bear

04-04-2018, 09:17 AM

Holy Cow Tank your spitting out Texas Holdem' Poker terminology that ThunderDEan might find a tad challenging. He's hardly a mature Adult. :???:

I always say this and Poker.

Only the smartest and the dumbest Poker players lose BIG POTS. Poker is never about any hand but the Session is all.

I feel I can sit at a Poker Table with over the required time; 95 % of the entire World's self deemed GREAT Poker Players, and before the first hand is dealt. KNOW that I own their chips.

Poker is about 'common sense'and Math Skills; and some decent luck (you need good Pockets).

After that it's a Marathon not a Sprint.

:tup:

pbmax

04-04-2018, 09:27 AM

^^^ If you guys are all such awesome poker players, where the hell are your private islands, jets, and yachts? Lets see some pictures! :)

I assume that playing poker for a living is a terrible life. No one I have seen on TV playing professionally looks happy.

Most football or baseball players exude some kind of joy, unless you are Steve Carlton. Poker players seem full-time miserable unless they are not playing and are just commentating.

Anti-Polar Bear

04-04-2018, 09:32 AM

^^^ If you guys are all such awesome poker players, where the hell are your private islands, jets, and yachts? Lets see some pictures! :)

I had 2.5 million frogskins to my name in cyberspace, but it was seized by Dubya when he shut down online poker in ole USA.

Actually, unlike Woodbuck and the Thunder, I'm a losing player, despite studying the game on youtube rigorously, cos I'm unlucky and cos I have penchant for tilting after a bad beat. Fuck it, I've quit poker. It's been almost 2 weeks since I last played a hand.

mraynrand

04-04-2018, 09:49 AM

Most football or baseball players exude some kind of joy, unless you are Steve Carlton. Poker players seem full-time miserable unless they are not playing and are just commentating.

Al Hrabosky! Dude was straight up insane, but he was still having fun! Carlton - lol.

Anti-Polar Bear

04-04-2018, 09:55 AM

I assume that playing poker for a living is a terrible life. No one I have seen on TV playing professionally looks happy.

Most football or baseball players exude some kind of joy, unless you are Steve Carlton. Poker players seem full-time miserable unless they are not playing and are just commentating.

Poker faces. I mean, the shark is not gonna look all jolly whenever he's dealt pocket aces. Sure, losing players do look miserable. It's a terrible game if you're not profiting.

To be profitable and able to set your own schedule, show up whenever you want, leave whenever you want. And exploit your fellow men greedily. That, my friend, is the essence of whatever junk Adam Smith preached.

Anti-Polar Bear

04-04-2018, 10:07 AM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/37/8e/99378e5e8324ec65e6011e041ec9062b.jpg

She's looking 40ish; but to emphasize a more important fact it's pretty obvious her ancestry is made up of 'physical genetically inferior'all white Caucasian Genes.

She also likely has too much money to waste eating chocolate and candy.

:lol:

pbmax

04-04-2018, 10:13 AM

Poker faces. I mean, the shark is not gonna look all jolly whenever he's dealt pocket aces. Sure, losing players do look miserable. It's a terrible game if you're not profiting.

To be profitable and able to set your own schedule, show up whenever you want, leave whenever you want. And exploit your fellow men greedily. That, my friend, is the essence of whatever junk Adam Smith preached.

Its not just while playing, its after the game. Some even seem jolly during the game to throw people off and then get depressive when its over.