PackerRats 1st Round Mock Draft

[pbmax]

Everyone claim a team, first come, first serve. If you wish to speed things along, volunteer for two and we'll sort it out as we go.

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants
3 New York Jets
4 Cleveland Browns
5 Denver Broncos
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
8 Chicago Bears
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders
11 Miami Dolphins
12 Buffalo Bills
13 Washington Redskins
14 Green Bay Packers - poll to be conducted
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys
20 Detroit Lions
21 Cincinnati Bengals
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots
32 Philadelphia Eagles

[pbmax]

I will also take the Steelers pick if no one else wants it so I can take the last favorite player left from Rand's list, as per actual draft history.

[Bretsky]

I will also take the Steelers pick if no one else wants it so I can take the last favorite player left from Rand's list, as per actual draft history.

I am Hoody Genius

[mraynrand]

I will also take the Steelers pick if no one else wants it so I can take the last favorite player left from Rand's list, as per actual draft history.

Yeah this year the Steelers will grab the guy I want the Packers to get with their second round pick. Or they'll move up ahead of #14 somehow...

I'll take Cleveland's #4, but only if I can trade down six times and accumulate 8 picks in rounds 3-6.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Tampa, but only if the uni presented to the pick is the creamsicle one.

[Joemailman]

I'll take Washington and Dallas. Because who wouldn't want to be Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'll take Chicago and Philadelphia.

[SudsMcBucky]

I'll take the Falcons. Because I'd also be good at blowing 28 point leads in the 4th Q of the SB.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants
3 New York Jets
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders
11 Miami Dolphins
12 Buffalo Bills
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
20 Detroit Lions
21 Cincinnati Bengals
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[Zool]

I'll take the Jests

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders
11 Miami Dolphins
12 Buffalo Bills
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
20 Detroit Lions
21 Cincinnati Bengals
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[Bretsky]

I will take a bunch of picks if we're still looking on Monday night but I'm pretty much gone for the next few days coaching a girls team in the state tournament in Stevens Point so I've held back in grabbing teams

[mraynrand]

I will take a bunch of picks if we're still looking on Monday night but I'm pretty much gone for the next few days coaching a girls team in the state tournament in Stevens Point so I've held back in grabbing teams

Good luck! You've got a few weeks...

[Bretsky]

Good luck! You've got a few weeks...

TY

Assuming we don't start the pix before Sunday night....I"ll take Indy

If it's started already just bump that pick to somebody else

[Deputy Nutz]

I will take the Bills and lions

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders
11 Miami Dolphins
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Let's go people. Especially Lurkers!

Pick a team!

[esoxx]

I will take the Raiders and Dolphins.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[denverYooper]

I might as well take the Broncos.

When do we make our picks? Draft weekend?

[Guiness]

I'll take the original cheaters, the Broncos. For a second team give me Cincinnati if no one else takes them by the deadline.

I kinda want the Giants...curious what they'll be doing, one of the bigger questions in the draft, IMO.

[Joemailman]

I'll take the original cheaters, the Broncos. For a second team give me Cincinnati if no one else takes them by the deadline.

I kinda want the Giants...curious what they'll be doing, one of the bigger questions in the draft, IMO.

denverYooper beat you to the Broncos. You taking the Giants as your second team?

[pbmax]

I might as well take the Broncos.

When do we make our picks? Draft weekend?

We will start a day or two after we get commitments to all the picks. This usually takes awhile to get folks to check in.

We will send out PMs to remind people when its coming up on their pick. So get your contact info/email set up correctly.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll take the Cardinals as my 2nd team. Will give them up if someone else wants to join in.

[pbmax]

I'll take the original cheaters, the Broncos. For a second team give me Cincinnati if no one else takes them by the deadline.

I kinda want the Giants...curious what they'll be doing, one of the bigger questions in the draft, IMO.

Guin, you got the G-Men and the Bengals.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars
30 Minnesota Vikings
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Colts, 49ers, Ravens, Chargers, Seahawks, Bills, Panthers, Titans, Saints, Jags and Vikes left.

[yetisnowman]

I'll take San Fran and the Jaguars

[RashanGary]

Colts, 49ers, Ravens, Chargers, Seahawks, Bills, Panthers, Titans, Saints, Jags and Vikes left.

Ill take colts and vikes

[bobblehead]

I nailed my one attempt at this with JPP to the Giants. I wanted my own LV Raiders, but they are gone. I'll remember the Titans.

[wthigoot]

I will take Seahawks if not already taken.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Only teams left: Quoth the Ravens, Chargers, Bills and Saints.

Four to go. We have the fifteen picks assigned, we can start soon. Hurry up and get in on the action.

[woodbuck27]

I'll take the Ravens and Saints
.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Only the Chargers and Bills left. Two teams with some definite talent and clear needs.

We get the last two teams picked up we can start today when everyone is checking in. Where's Pugger, shadow or Maxi? :D

Fritz! Where is Fritz!

[woodbuck27]

OK I'll put the pressure on you: :glug:

I'll make it easy for your NO. I Pick:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCXNBeVfc

So if that doesn't give you the idea for your NO. 1 Browns Pick this will:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NVWkXVoRRg

I'll chip in also with this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSCG6NGUCE8

So that's why The Cleveland Browns must pick this Prospect who is ridiculously awesome:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0VALn4r8mg

Bio for Saquon Barkley:

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/saquon_barkley_975777.html

Your NO. 1 Pick pbmax is a 'no brainer'. Too easy as I see it ! :idea:

[woodbuck27]

Another View and the NO. 1 Pick for the Cleveland Browns and solid Analysis and minimizing RISK:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0i9Fklv48Y

Guiness's NO. 2 Pick will be really easy.

[mraynrand]

It's a passing league

[woodbuck27]

The BROWNS Pick @ NO. 1 and NO. 4:

Maybe they go NO. 1 Ranked Prospect or QB Sam Darnold and he could very well be 'the face of the Franchise' and leave NO. 2 Overall Prospect RB 'Generational Talent' Saquon Barkley.

but

The thing to consider is who they like as their favourite QB Prospect and there are Options. Check out this analysis by someone I respect or Chris Carter who's among the very best with a HOFer Career. That NO. 1 Pick is very interesting this Year.:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-574tdIrlM

[woodbuck27]

This is an outstanding athlete and the finest QB Prospect in this Draft as I see it but the Cleveland Browns might have other ideas and solid options?

They are the Cleveland Browns with a whole different look and their Brass. Hopefully a better PLAN :idea:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBjn4zxDHU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjs_EhU_qA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQezAEfWQCk

[bobblehead]

I;ll take chargers also just to get this thing started

[woodbuck27]

I;ll take chargers also just to get this thing started

Current Allocation

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

That leaves the Buffalo Bills and Carolina Panthers.

[wthigoot]

Panthers if no one else wants them.

[pbmax]

Current Allocation -- Bills still available!

1 Cleveland Browns -- pbmax
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

OK, we are going to start. When you make the pick, PM the next three people on the list to help move this along. Sometimes we wait a couple days to get a pick in and while its understandable, a little forewarning or reminder should help shorten the timeframe.

Browns are on the clock with the 1st round pick!

[esoxx]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

[mraynrand]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

lol

[pbmax]

So, who is running things in Cleveland? I posit its actually the GM. And I think that has largely been true of each of the last eight GMs who worked here. Problem is, each of those GMs ran into some bumps, dumb decisions and intra-team fighting (usually the coach) and the owner has a ridiculously quick trigger finger. Imagine if Rodger Goodell, who manages the NFL by creating press releases and then reading Tweets about reporters reacting to the press releases, owned a team. He would hire and fire GMs while watching the concession sales quarter by quarter. If you aren't buying enough premium beer, Sashi Brown is going to lose his golden parachute.

But John Dorsey is an old horse, he isn't going to change for Haslam, and he knows if he gets canned in two years, his boiler plate football takes straight out of the 1980s NFL will keep him a respectable future employee. Wolf the Younger and Alonzo "Dilly Dilly" Highsmith will keep him focused on athletes with upside, but JD is going to want his team to look like other successful teams, from about 1994-2001.

That means a QB first and a RB, if it is to happen, second. Nothing will end a GM tenure than a lack of a credible QB. At least one drafted high enough that you can fool writers into thinking the only thing the team needs to unlock to be successful is to get the highly drafted young QB to play well. And that is never the GMs fault.

But which one? Dorsey isn't going to want to gamble on his lame duck HC to construct an offense for Lamar Jackson to succeed in (which might be his first dumb move because Jackson has serious physical talent and someone imaginative, like Doug Pederson, would probably beat Dorsey's team into submission with Jackson at QB making the same four throws all game long).

Someone wrote that Baker Mayfield's NFL comparison is Case Keenum. No one drafts Keenum in the first round.

Some teams would see Josh Allen as a diamond in the rough with a body and athleticism that will survive almost any offense. So if some other team were picking here, Allen makes sense despite his less that outstanding 2017 year. Physically he was the same guy, but the offense was gutted by graduation and he could not mask all the problems. He's going to get dinged by his inability to improve on pro characteristics like pocket awareness, play timing and pocket awareness.

Metrics guys point out that exactly 2 QBs with Allen's numbers for accuracy have panned out (Carson Wentz is one and I cannot remember the other-check back).

That leaves us with Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen. Rosen has been called NextGen Eli Manning. They weren't clear whether that was meant as a compliment. Darnold presents fewer worries that he might be thinking about things other than football which is normally a big concern for coaches. But the former Packer brain-trust has survived both Favre and Rodgers. They get that football smarts and extracurriculars can go hand in hand as long as you are fanatical about football in some way. Darold's mechanics are everywhere, another thing the Packers brain trust has worked through before.

Many are speculating that Darnold is the feint and Rosen is the pick. I disagree, I think the brain trust wants the upside that fixing his mechanics would bring.


With the 1st pick in the 2018 NFL Common Draft, the Cleveland Browns select: Sam Darnold, QB, USC

[pbmax]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

:D

Sorry. Got interrupted by errands and dinner. Wanted to write an opus. Should have written a blurb.

Guiness is on the clock with the Giants.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[BZnDallas]

I'll take the Bills @ 22 if its still open.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

I'll take the Bills @ 22 if its still open.

Done.

[Guiness]

The New York Giants are on the clock at #2, and their decision comes down to this: how long have they got Eli for? The cupboard is bare behind him, and they know it.

The Giants decide to roll with the future HOFer for another year, and hope to land a diamond in the rough in later rounds. They also decide to follow a formula that got them their last 2 SB, looking to DL as opposed to any sort of offense.

The Giants select defensive end Bradley Chubb, NC State

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Who the fuck is wthigoot?

Welcome to the forum, dude. :)

Ps: Was too busy debunking the losers in FYI, so I forgot to sign up. Harlan also missed the deadline.

Wherefore art thou, Harlan?

[pbmax]

Who the fuck is wthigoot?

Welcome to the forum, dude. :)

Ps: Was too busy debunking the losers in FYI, so I forgot to sign up. Harlan also missed the deadline.

Wherefore art thou, Harlan?

Plenty of people have two picks, ask 'em.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

Zool and the Jets are on the clock:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98


I miss Pete Rozelle.

[mraynrand]

Man..The Jets. Muhammad Wilkerson probably is their only good #1 pick since Revis (at least so far).

[pbmax]

Man..The Jets. Muhammad Wilkerson probably is their only good #1 pick since Revis (at least so far).

I liked watching the Ken O'Brien and Johnny "Lam" Jones offense there for awhile (though it was more of a Wesley Walker offense in reality). Everyone talked about the Sack Exchange, but those guys could light it up. They were one of the few teams that could keep up with the Dolphins and Marino for a year or three on the scoreboard.

[mraynrand]

I liked watching the Ken O'Brien and Johnny "Lam" Jones offense there for awhile (though it was more of a Wesley Walker offense in reality). Everyone talked about the Sack Exchange, but those guys could light it up. They were one of the few teams that could keep up with the Dolphins and Marino for a year or three on the scoreboard.

They really should have won something after that 2000 draft, but they had Mike Sherman Edwards as coach. That ain't cutting it.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Guiness
3 New York Jets -- Zool
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

hahaha I knew that would be youir Pick pbmax.

An excellent Pick that makes Pick NO. 2 easier.

Guiness will Pick @ NO. 2 ..........

[mraynrand]

Guiness will Pick @ NO. 2 ..........

He already picked Chubb. The Cleveland Browns are scrambling to decide how to waste their #4 pick.

[Zool]

The Jets have been looking for a QB for 40 years to replace the swagger of Broadway Joe. While there are other QBs with better measurables still on the board, the Jets go with the guy who just wins.

Jets take Baker Mayfield.....and hope he’s not Maziel 2.0

[pbmax]

...
Metrics guys point out that exactly 2 QBs with Allen's numbers for accuracy have panned out (Carson Wentz is one and I cannot remember the other-check back).


{Edit: I bollixed up my point of comparison. Wentz and Ryan had accuracy issues, but not Allen bad. See below where Wentz and Ryan really overcame the odds (QBase)}

The track record for guys with sub .600 completion percentage in their final college season is terrible going back more than a decade:

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/qbase-2018


Allen has an obscenely powerful arm, but it's a howitzer without a targeting system. He completed just 56.3 percent of his passes last year. Here is the list of quarterbacks chosen in the top 100 picks since 2005 despite having a completion rate below 58 percent in their final college season: Andrew Walter (2005), Jake Locker (2011), Christian Hackenberg (2016), Connor Cook (2016), and C. J. Beathard (2017). That's it.


QBase is the Football Outsiders projection for college QBs into the Pros. It take in more factors than just completion percentage.

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
In the bottom 50 QB prospects since 1997 according to QBASE, there's one elite starter: Matt Ryan. Carson Wentz might be the second. There's a reason we say that even the worst-projected QB has a 4-5% chance of being elite, esp if scouts think he's worth a top pick. Variance!

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
So, yes, Josh Allen fans, there is hope. Not much but not zero. I would much prefer to risk my first-round pick on Darnold, Rosen, or Mayfield.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- MrAynRand
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[mraynrand]

The Browns breath a sigh of relief. For years they've done the QB/Great talent double team with a combination of first round picks and told the fans "THE FUTURE IS NOW" And it was true - the future was now - and it was an exciting and wonderful dystopian future like the "Maze Runner" or "The Hunger Games" but it wasn't anything John Facenda would ever want to voice over, unless it was for football follies. Recall these Beauties:

Weeden/Richardson
Quinn/Thomas
Manziel/Gilbert

Joe Thomas was of course the great star for Cleveland over the past decade, but Browns #1 picks have otherwise been awful or if competent, they manage to misuse them before getting rid of them. Or they trade down to 'accumulate picks' (aka accumulate dead bodies).

So this year (unbeknownst to PBmax, the Browns were going to draft Josh Allen #1 as the QB with the "highest ceiling" in the draft). The temptation was to trade down at #4. Why? Because the Browns, having spent tons of money to fill every spot on the O-line, just lost Thomas to frustration, and need a LT, but there is no Jonathan Ogden worth #4 - so trade down and get a LT and another 'value pick' like Greg Little is the smart call...or is it? No one really needs Julio Jones, right?

But no, another former LB is in charge now, and we know all about former LBs turned GMs - Can't miss, right? Like Ted Thompson, Matt Millen, or Peter Parker. Well anyway, John Dorsey is just going to select the greatest talent left and pick Saquon Barkley, and have an explosive offensive talent to take the pressure off his veteran inaccurate passer and his rookie inexperienced passer. The future is now!

[woodbuck27]

Someone PM pbmax, he's been on the clock for 50 minutes already!

esoxx :-)you must be patient; some of these Packerrats think a tad slow like Packer Brass.

pbmax actually gets it right.

[woodbuck27]

Wow the NO. 4 Pick is like the Packers having Aaron Rodgers fall to them.

It has to be RB Prospect Saquon Barkley.

[pbmax]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[pbmax]

dYooper and the Broncos are on the clock!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Plenty of people have two picks, ask 'em.

I'm good. Was just trying to make a funny and saying hello to my ole pal Harlan. Plus, as Wist will tell you, I'm too lazy to do any draft research. :tup:

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The Jets have been looking for a QB for 40 years to replace the swagger of Broadway Joe. While there are other QBs with better measurables still on the board, the Jets go with the guy who just wins.

Jets take Baker Mayfield.....and hope he’s not Maziel 2.0

Mayfield over the rich kid who hates the current POTUS and the small school guy with a big arm? Somewhere in the Packerrats universe, Mel Kiper Jr. is saying picks like this is why the Jets pick in the top 5 every year.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- denverYooper
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

The Browns LOVE Packerrats.

[pbmax]

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2018/qbase-2018


QBase is the Football Outsiders projection for college QBs into the Pros. It take in more factors than just completion percentage.



Since 1997, there have been 27 different quarterbacks chosen in the top 100 with QBASE ratings below zero. The best of these quarterbacks was either Josh McCown or Brian Griese. It's a terrible group of quarterback busts. Negative-QBASE passers chosen in the first round include Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman, Kyle Boller, Rex Grossman, J.P. Losman, and Patrick Ramsey.


Its entirely possible Allen is getting hyped by reporter-scouts who are just passing along misinformation and that once reporters actually get wind of team rankings, Allen will fall down the board. Its also possible he just drops on draft day naturally.

But if he gets selected in the first round, will be a nice example in the metrics versus eyeball battle. And the Jets might just be the team goofy enough to do it early.

I also think that Rand could be right about Cleveland. I think Darnold or Rosen is who I take. But Packer Brain Trust: Cleveland Division might just reverse a mistake the former numbers guy GM made (skipping on chance for Wentz whose metrics were not top flight) and take a guy who passes the eyeball test wth flying colors.

I would love to ask Ron Wolf about how certain he was about Favre and if he would have taken him with the first Jets pick. The Jets used that years #1 to take Rob Moore in the previous Summer's supplemental draft.

He said that he and Steinberg both liked Favre as the best player in the draft. I wonder if that is literally true.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cy_h-BOo4QEJ:www.espn.com/blog/new-york/jets/post/_/id/48987/hof-nominee-ron-wolf-reflects-on-jets-and-the-almost-brett-favre-trade+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[mraynrand]

The Browns LOVE Packers.

FIFY

[denverYooper]

dYooper and the Broncos are on the clock!

This is a tough one. I can see Elway going a few ways:
1.) Replenish the strength of the team -- its defense. They recently let a few of their talented secondary walk and it would make sense to draft someone for the backend.
2.) Add another name to the quarterback room. As a former QB, Elway realizes that you still need a solid QB to win for extended periods in the NFL. He had some success in renting Manning for a few years but the non-Manning years have been lean. I know they signed Keenum but I would not be surprised to see them draft a QB here to compete if Elway likes one of them.
3.) Solidify the OL. IMO the Broncos have have had glaring holes in their OL these last couple of years. They've seen more penetration than <insert favorite ribaldlry> and it hasn't mattered who they have had in at QB, because that guy has been running for his life for the last 2 years.

Just because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.

[woodbuck27]

This is a tough one. I can see Elway going a few ways:
1.) Replenish the strength of the team -- its defense. They recently let a few of their talented secondary walk and it would make sense to draft someone for the backend.
2.) Add another name to the quarterback room. As a former QB, Elway realizes that you still need a solid QB to win for extended periods in the NFL. He had some success in renting Manning for a few years but the non-Manning years have been lean. I know they signed Keenum but I would not be surprised to see them draft a QB here to compete if Elway likes one of them.
3.) Solidify the OL. IMO the Broncos have have had glaring holes in their OL these last couple of years. They've seen more penetration than <insert favorite ribaldlry> and it hasn't mattered who they have had in at QB, because that guy has been running for his life for the last 2 years.

Just because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.

Great Pick.

[pbmax]

Nick Collins/Greg Jennings/Justin Harrell on the clock!

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[RashanGary]

Denzel Ward CB OSU

[Guiness]

Just because I'm bored of watching Denver QBs run for their lives, with the 5th pick of the draft the Denver Broncos take Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame.

I like and don't like the pick. Probably BPA (assuming you're not in love with any of the QBs left...Rosen?) but a guard? Is that a position you fill with a #5 pick?

[Bretsky]

Denver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fall

[Joemailman]

Nick Collins/Greg Jennings/Justin Harrell on the clock!

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Justin Harrell Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio St.
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Cheesehead Craig on the clock.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The Bucs have a mess in their secondary. They really couldn't go wrong with either James or Fitzpatrick in helping that sad unit. My sources inside the organization tell me that they really love James and feel his ceiling is huge. He's a phenom that will lead their defense for the next decade.

The pick is Derwin James, S, FSU.

[red]

Denver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fall

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

[woodbuck27]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

If you trust the NFL Sites ie NFL.Com; CBS.Com; ESPN; Drafttek (etc.) and all the Draft Analysts and deemed NFL Experts and their Mock Drafts ...Add the Draft Guru's ie ...NFL Network's Mike Mayock and McShay and Kiper

it's all out there. It takes a load of time to really analyze and be on top of it. That's the duty of the Green Bay Packer Draft Team. They better get it close to right for the next three Seasons,

Add the Tube and The NFL Network analysis and all the other Media Video and the Team Fan Sites.

There's loads of information on the better Draft Prospects at every position and their overall Graded Ratings.

At the end of the day it comes down to real need and Risk and really good luck and a players attitude and dedication to the Team that gives him a realshot.

I agree as to analyzing exactly who will be the BEST Prospect available at TR. 1 Pick NO. 14 will be determined by all the first 13 Picks on Draft Day Number One. So far the Packerrats Mock Draft look pretty solid thru the first 6 Picks.

[woodbuck27]

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig is now on the Clock.

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Cheesehead Craig
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Comment woodbuck27:

Nice Pick Justin Harrell. With G Quenton Nelson being the NO. 5 Pick overall.

The TOP CB is off the Board.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Woody, catch up.

I pm'd Harv and Yeti that I picked a player and that Harv is on the clock.

[Deputy Nutz]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

[woodbuck27]

Woody, catch up.

I pm'd Harv and Yeti that I picked a player and that Harv is on the clock.

OK smartass it's time 'you' took a lickin'.

Let's go to 'the Meadow'. You never had to deal with me in 'the Meadow'. :-)

I'm thinking me and two words A) cake and B) walk Vs you .

Re-read your post. Does it make any sense in terms of mine?

NO ! It certainly doesn't.

I'll fix it for you.

[woodbuck27]

Pick NO. 8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers is now on the Clock.

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[Cheesehead Craig]

OK smartass it's time 'you' took a lickin'.

Let's go to 'the Meadow'. You never had to deal with me in 'the Meadow'. :-)

I'm thinking me and two words A) cake and B) walk Vs you .

Re-read your post. Does it make any sense in terms of mine?

NO ! It certainly doesn't.

I'll fix it for you.

Yes it does. You posted that I was on the clock 7 hours after I posted the pick. Lighten up Francis.

[woodbuck27]

Yes it does. You posted that I was on the clock 7 hours after I posted the pick. Lighten up Francis.

See Post 85 and see Post 86.... :duel:

You lose. :idea:

"Elementary, My Dear Watson" Sherlock Holmes

[Cheesehead Craig]

See Post 85 and see Post 86.... :duel:

You lose. :idea:

"Elementary, My Dear Watson" Sherlock Holmes

Yeah, post #85 is Joe stating I'm on the clock, #86 is me posting the pick at 10:14pm last night and post #89 is you posting I'm on the clock at 5:43 this morning. Times are CST. So I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

[mraynrand]

So I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

club joined

[pbmax]

Denver passing on a QB as well as the NYG would be bad for GB's chances of seeing one of the golden boys fall

If it happens, someone will trade up for one of them.

[pbmax]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

Yoop lives in Denver and probably knows as much about their needs as you do about the Packers.

I can see Denver not liking their choices there. With Keenum signed, do you want an immediate QB battle?

[pbmax]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

Of course. But I suggest just draft pick for draft pick trades. Judging players will be too hard. Gotta get a legit score on one of the draft pick trade value charts.

https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/games/draft-pick-value.php

[mraynrand]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

I'm not sure how much value that gives anyway. The Cleveland boards and the radio stations are a steady stream of mostly complaining. And the radio hosts have as many different opinions as the fans on the boards. The only real value to being 'in town' is to maybe listen to the beat writers (usually one or two guys or gals) who actually have their ear to the ground. IN Cleveland it's Terry Pluto, Toni Grossi, and Mary Kay Cabot. Still, more than half the time, they're wrong. Even so, most of their stuff is on twitter/on the line, so it's not hard to get a feel for the team direction. See for example this Q&A with Mary Kay (hey that rhymes - I could be in advertising)


Hey, Mary Kay: Is all the talk about the Browns really liking Josh Allen, including from a 'friend of John Dorsey's'' (according to Peter King of SI.com) true? -- Ben Jones, Macon, Georgia

Hey, Ben: I know the Browns really like a lot about Allen, including his big arm, his mobility, his size and his processing speed. I just don't know if they feel comfortable enough about his ability to improve his accuracy by shortening his stride. It's a projection. He's only two months into the new footwork that he's been honing under the guidance of QB guru Jordan Palmer, and his upside is tremendous if he can commit it to muscle memory. In fact, no matter how much I try to talk myself out of Allen because of the 56.2 completion percentage at Wyoming, I can't help but like him and would probably take him No. 1 if the draft were tomorrow. But I just don't know if the Browns will pull the trigger on him at No. 1 with the accuracy concerns. It seems to me they'll opt for Darnold, who has natural accuracy and anticipation.

Hey, Mary Kay: You talk about how Josh Rosen probably won't be drafted by the Browns because the offense won't be "seamless" in transitioning from Tyrod Taylor to him. Please don't tell me that John Dorsey and his "football guys" share this theory. Why would drafting a quarterback that we want to play for the next 15 plus years have any bearing on whether or not he can transition into an offense that A. might be different in a year and B.match the skills set of a bridge quarterback? -- Devin Hernan, Concord, Ohio

Hey, Devin: I think the Browns made a concerted effort to acquire a veteran quarterback that had the dual-threat skill set they were seeking, and one that would match up with what they were looking for in their quarterback of the future. Hue Jackson has mentioned on several occasions that they'd like the rookie QB to share traits with Taylor so they're not re-inventing the wheel when the first-rounder is ready to play. The entire offense must adjust to a mobile quarterback, and the Browns don't want to go from a classic, dropback passer to a dual-threat QB, or vice versa. Therefore, I think QBs such as Darnold, Allen, Mayfield and Jackson fit the bill, while the less mobile Rosen is more of a reach.

[pbmax]

Quarterback guru Jordan Palmer is going to take some getting used to.

[pbmax]

Why on earth would you want the rookie QB to share traits with Tyrod because of the offense? Are they even going to the playoffs this year? That just seems to be Hue Jackson lobbying to keep his job.

If you want a mobile guy for your new fangled offense OK. But to worry about going from one QB to another in a year? Dumb.

[mraynrand]

Quarterback guru Jordan Palmer is going to take some getting used to.

It's his body of work with the Arizona Rattlers that lends him his greatest credibility.

(FYI, he couldn't make the depth chart with QBs Lang Campbell and Jeff Smoker in front of him and, following his disastrous 2008 season, the AFL suspended operations for a year)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Bills would like to move up, can the Bills actively search for a trade partner?

Looking to pull a Ditka and trade all of your picks for the Small School Guy with the Big Arm, eh?

[mraynrand]

Why on earth would you want the rookie QB to share traits with Tyrod because of the offense? Are they even going to the playoffs this year? That just seems to be Hue Jackson lobbying to keep his job.

If you want a mobile guy for your new fangled offense OK. But to worry about going from one QB to another in a year? Dumb.

See what I mean? What's so valuable about the beat writer? Maybe she just made half it up?

[Deputy Nutz]

Harvey,
Bills are offering 2018 12th pick, 2018 second round pick, and 2019 3rd round pick for the rights to the 8th pick

[woodbuck27]

Yeah, post #85 is Joe stating I'm on the clock, #86 is me posting the pick at 10:14pm last night and post #89 is you posting I'm on the clock at 5:43 this morning. Times are CST. So I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

Did you forget or not simply care to update the Mock and your Pick?

I simply added Justin Harrell's Pick @ NO. 6 and didn't see your Pick.

I simply posted a reminder to you as an assist to help move this on. It's called Team Work where I come from. :idea:

You get all squiggly :whaa: about that Cheesehead Craig !? The thing that amazes me is your fricken' serious. Good grief Man. Hahahahahaha

[Zool]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

http://memecrunch.com/meme/6DJG5/fun-sucker/image.jpg

[Zool]

Harvey,
Bills are offering 2018 12th pick, 2018 second round pick, and 2019 3rd round pick for the rights to the 8th pick

No trades! I called it

[mraynrand]

http://memecrunch.com/meme/6DJG5/fun-sucker/image.jpg

More like:

https://img.thewebawards.com/1000/110/A-Fat-Cat-Watching-TV.jpg

[Smidgeon]

thats why i think these things are dumb

we're all packer fans and have been looking at players that fit the packers needs for awhile

so everybody picks the packers targets for very little thought put in to the other teams needs. and how would we know what others teams needs are? i doubt any of us spend much time on other teams boards

Yeah, but they pass the time before the actual draft and keeps some discussions churning.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Did you forget or not simply care to update the Mock and your Pick?

I simply added Justin Harrell's Pick @ NO. 6 and didn't see your Pick.

I simply posted a reminder to you as an assist to help move this on. It's called Team Work where I come from. :idea:

You get all squiggly :whaa: about that Cheesehead Craig !? The thing that amazes me is your fricken' serious. Good grief Man. Hahahahahaha

You get all pissy when I make a two-word joke, but yet I'm the serious one. Ha, that's rich. Whatever, I'm done discussing this, go puff your internet chest out elsewhere.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Bears select LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech.

[Joemailman]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Yetisnowman and the 49ers are on the clock.

[Bretsky]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Harvey's Wallbangers Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- yetisnowman
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Yetisnowman and the 49ers are on the clock.



THIS IS KIND OF MY NIGHTMARE DRAFT

And if this is the board all 5 of the guys I'd LOVE GB to draft will be gone after the next two picks are made

I'm really hoping the draft rolls like Nutz predictions and not here

The Giants and Denver are key picks to defensive guys falling.

I tend to think the NYG will go away from QB but I'd really be surprised if Denver does

[yetisnowman]

San Fran has a few key needs. So I just went with who I think is the most talented at one of these positions.
With the 9th pick in the 2018 NFL draft the 49ers select....
Roquan Smith
LB, Georgia

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

esoxx and the Oakland Raiders are on the clock

[esoxx]

The Raiders are a mess on defense. Secondary is bad. Interior DL is lacking. At LB, NaVorro Bowman showed he had some gas left in the tank but how long does that last? Khalil Mack is skipping off-season activities and wants a new contract. Welcome back to the NFL sidelines Jon Gruden!

After considering Vita Vea, the Raiders just cannot pass up a versatile, big play DB that will be a key to their secondary for years to come.

With the 10th pick in the 2018 draft, the Oakland Raiders select Minkah Fitzpatrick - DB Alabama.

[esoxx]

Miami is now on the clock.

I PM'd esoxx to alert.

[esoxx]

The Dolphins cannot believe their eyes seeing a potential franchise type QB fall in to their laps at #11. This is the QB they've had their eyes on the whole time and can hardly contain themselves. After making sure Ashton Kutcher is nowhere in sight and this isn't a retro version of Punk'd, the Miami Dolphins select Josh Rosen - QB UCLA.

The Buffalo Bills are now on the clock.

[Bretsky]

The Raiders are a mess on defense. Secondary is bad. Interior DL is lacking. At LB, NaVorro Bowman showed he had some gas left in the tank but how long does that last? Khalil Mack is skipping off-season activities and wants a new contract. Welcome back to the NFL sidelines Jon Gruden!

After considering Vita Vea, the Raiders just cannot pass up a versatile, big play DB that will be a key to their secondary for years to come.

With the 10th pick in the 2018 draft, the Oakland Raiders select Minkah Fitzpatrick - DB Alabama.



JUST AS I CALLED.........THE FAB FIVE OF BRETSKY'S ARE GONE
NONE OF THEM FELL

TRADE DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joemailman]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward CB OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU.
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- esoxx Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- esoxx 2 Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Deputy Nutz
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Salty Nutz and the Buffalo Bills are on the clock.

[woodbuck27]

That's so far in our Mock three QB's off the Board.

[pbmax]

Miami is now on the clock.

I PM'd esoxx to alert.

That's good follow through. Your next personnel evaluation will look favorably on that.

Hey Joe, you are picking after Nutz. I'll PM you.

[pbmax]

JUST AS I CALLED.........THE FAB FIVE OF BRETSKY'S ARE GONE
NONE OF THEM FELL

TRADE DOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So trading up with Nutz is out of the question?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Picks

Salty Nutz and the Buffalo Bills are on the clock.

Might as well just take the Small School Guy with the Big Arm off the board, and put Joey the Mailman on da clock. :mrgreen:

[Deputy Nutz]

The Bills take Josh Allen QB Wyoming University.

[pbmax]

Joe is on the clock!

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[call_me_ishmael]

This is literally a nightmare draft. I sincerely hope the bit 5 QBs go before 14. I think at least 4 will. Ideally, they go in the first 6 picks or so, so some good players that will help us fall and we could have the option to trade-up to ensure we get a stud.

[pbmax]

This is literally a nightmare draft. I sincerely hope the bit 5 QBs go before 14. I think at least 4 will. Ideally, they go in the first 6 picks or so, so some good players that will help us fall and we could have the option to trade-up to ensure we get a stud.

Most of these guys are going to be gone, save for a surprise drop.

Washington won't do it here, but even if 5 QBs went, that is only one player moving down toward the Packers. And it just as easily could be the ND Guard than one of the D players.

[mraynrand]

It hurts to seemingly not have any WR/TE/OTs in the top 10

[pbmax]

It hurts to seemingly not have any WR/TE/OTs in the top 10

I do think that the PackerRats draft might be excluding other likelihoods because all we talk about are who we want to see drop. And that happens to be the best defenders plus maybe one WR.

Other mocks less than a week old have Sutton, Guice, Vita Vea (DT), McGlinchey (OT-ND), and Payne (DT) going in Top 13.

But outside of QB, its a very defensive top of the board.

[woodbuck27]

Washington's Pick will be interesting. **

It looks like this day we might begin our Pcker NO. 14 Pick Poll.

I know what ** it ** should be and joemailman will nail it; but let's see.

If ** it ** goes in another direction then the Packer NO. 14 Pick Poll will be very interesting.

[mraynrand]

I do think that the PackerRats draft might be excluding other likelihoods because all we talk about are who we want to see drop. And that happens to be the best defenders plus maybe one WR.

Other mocks less than a week old have Sutton, Guice, Vita Vea (DT), McGlinchey (OT-ND), and Payne (DT) going in Top 13.

But outside of QB, its a very defensive top of the board.

I still think there's a reasonable chance the Packers take a QB, but only remotely possible if some teams get cold feet. If you're a bad team with a marginal QB, you almost have to take a QB in the top 10-20, meaning a QB good enough to develop at Rodger's successor won't be available at 14 - and Packer brass figure they have Rodgers for closer to 6 more years than 2.

[yetisnowman]

If we take a QB at 14, I'm gonna punch a baby.

[Joemailman]

The Redskins had the worst run defense in the NFL last season.

This is a fairly easy pick. After considering Da'Ron Payne of Alabama, the Redskins take Vita Vea, DT, Washington.

The Green Bay Packers are on the clock.

[Joemailman]

:Poll for Packers pick has been posted.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wouldn't hate Vita Vea in Green Bay but I think everyone else would. I really want Smith or Edmunds, probably leaning towards Edmunds because at the end of day, size matters. Just ask my wife heyyooo

[wthigoot]

The Redskins had the worst run defense in the NFL last season.

This is a fairly easy pick. After considering Da'Ron Payne of Alabama, the Redskins take Vita Vea, DT, Washington.

The Green Bay Packers are on the clock.

Vita Vea would have been ideal for the Seahawks at 18. They couldn't trade up - no #2 or #3 this year.

But hey, according to this there is no way they select him even if he's there:

Title: Who will the Seahawks overdraft this time?
https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/4/8/17210864/nfl-draft-seahawks-first-round-arden-key-vita-vea

Or Alternative Title:
Predictably Passing on Powerful Popular Perennial Pro-Bowler to Pick a Pathetic Palooka

That's a lot of complaining ahead of time for one article.

[woodbuck27]

The Redskins had the worst run defense in the NFL last season.

This is a fairly easy pick. After considering Da'Ron Payne of Alabama, the Redskins take Vita Vea, DT, Washington.

The Green Bay Packers are on the clock.

You nailed it ! ; DT Vita Vea was the clear choice. Washington ranked dead last in rushing 'D' in 2017 (134.1 Yards/Game)

That leaves lots of excellent talent for the Packers No. 14 Overall Pick.

The Packers have need @ Pass Rush; DB; WR ; OL (RHS) and TE.

There's lot's left that are excellent Prospects and (IMO) should start for the Packers.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Cheesehead Craig 2 (poster's second pick is available if we have enough people)
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

The Packers NO. 14 Pick will be done by a Poll Results.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just a reminder that the AZ pick is available if someone who isn't participating in the draft as of yet wants to get into the fun.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Just a reminder that the AZ pick is available if someone who isn't participating in the draft as of yet wants to get into the fun.

Because Nutz is ingoring me, I’ll take the pick. :)

[Cheesehead Craig]

Because Nutz is ingoring me, I’ll take the pick. :)

All yours.

[pbmax]

I still think there's a reasonable chance the Packers take a QB, but only remotely possible if some teams get cold feet. If you're a bad team with a marginal QB, you almost have to take a QB in the top 10-20, meaning a QB good enough to develop at Rodger's successor won't be available at 14 - and Packer brass figure they have Rodgers for closer to 6 more years than 2.

I am amazed that this group is so highly thought of that all will be gone by Pick 16 or so.

If Packers trade back, I could see a QB. Rooting for Rosen or Allen then. I'd take Mayfield, but Mr. Intensity won't last long.

[pbmax]

Packers 1st Round Draft Pick Poll is On The Clock!

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Joemailman
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Anti Polar Bear
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Anti - Polar Bear
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

The Packers NO. 14 Pick will be done by a Poll Results and that's now in the process of a conclusion with at 11:44 CST on Thurs. 12 April, 2018 - Packerrats voting for EDGE Harold Landry of Boston College with 8 Votes over (WR Calvin Ridley 6 Votes) and ( EDGE Marcus Davenport - UTSA with 5 Votes).

Note: Anti Polor Bear is now picking for the Arizona Cardinals at Pick NO. 15.

[Deputy Nutz]

Sorry I didn't mean to ignore anyone

[woodbuck27]

There are more unknowns than normal in this year’s NFL Draft.

As NFL scouting veteran Gil Brandt explains,

The MMQB @theMMQB

There are 13-17 guys in this NFL draft who I could point to and say, 'This guy's a first-round pick'@GilBrandt on the quality of the 2018 draft

https://trib.al/6XXZPZn

1:45 PM - Apr 9, 2018

Note:

The opening round of the 2018 NFL Draft takes place on April 27th.

Former Alabama Crimson Tide Stars Safety Minkah Fitzpatrick and ILB Rashaan Evans have been invited.

[Joemailman]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- poll Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Anti - Polar Bear
16 Baltimore Ravens -- woodbuck
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

[/B]
Arizona Cardinals and Anti-Polar Bear are on the clock.

[woodbuck27]

I know what Anti - Polar Bear's pick is.

I'm reluctant to Post it unless there's a rush to get things moving again. That Pick he wanted for Arizona is solid.

He may have changed his mind since this afternoon?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

How fast is Lamar Jackson? Who the fuck knows? Jackson refuses to run the 40 out of fear of being typecast as a receiver. At Louisville, Jackson had a penchant for leaving foes in the dust, so apparently, he can definitely fly. A mama's boy. Jackson's mother once called the Louisville coaches to remind them that they promised to play Jackson at QB and QB only, not some inferior position like punt returner. Is Jackson a carbon copy of RG3 or will he become the most dynamic QB in the NFL since Kap? The Cardinals are about to find out firsthand. Cardinals of Arizona draft Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville.

The Ravens and Woody are on the clock.

[RashanGary]

I like Landry. He’s explosive. Good burst and bend. I like Davenport too. I could see him being similar to Jason Pierre Paul.

I’m hoping for pass rush!

[woodbuck27]

How fast is Lamar Jackson? Who the fuck knows? Jackson refuses to run the 40 out of fear of being typecast as a receiver. At Louisville, Jackson had a penchant for leaving foes in the dust, so apparently, he can definitely fly. A mama's boy. Jackson's mother once called the Louisville coaches to remind them that they promised to play Jackson at QB and QB only, not some inferior position like punt returner. Is Jackson a carbon copy of RG3 or will he become the most dynamic QB in the NFL since Kap? The Cardinals are about to find out firsthand. Cardinals of Arizona draft Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville.

The Ravens and Woody are on the clock.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1526012

Brady praises Lamar Jackson: 'He's a beast!'

Michael McClymont ... 15h ago

A nice Pick Anti-Polar Bear: Two obvious earlier Draft destinations for QB Prospect Lamar Jackson were Arizona and as the possible replacement for Joe Flacco in Baltimore.

************************************************** ******************************

The Baltimore Ravens have need at TE and WR and at ILB and the OL.

Baltimore fans preferred a selection at WR of D.J. Moore over Calvin Ridley. I'm not so sure given Calvin Ridley's credentials that's their best option.

As I see it the University of Alabama has produced another top notch first round WR talent with an NFL.com Grade of 6.40 in Calvin Ridley.

Out of high school, Calvin Ridley was the best WR prospect in the country. He immediately made an impact for Alabama. Calvin Ridley is known for running crisp routes and utilizing top tier speed to get open. He has outstanding hands and an ability to adjust to the ball. I believe like most Analysts that he's the best receiver in this class. If he can improve on beating press coverage at the line of scrimmage, he can consistently win in the NFL.

The Baltimore Ravens pick Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- bobblehead
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2


At Pick NO. 17, bobblehead with the Los Angeles Chargers Pick is on the clock.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1526012

Brady praises Lamar Jackson: 'He's a beast!'

Michael McClymont ... 15h ago

A nice Pick Anti-Polar Bear: Two obvious earlier Draft destinations for QB Prospect Lamar Jackson were Arizona and as the possible replacement for Joe Flacco in Baltimore.

************************************************** ******************************

The Baltimore Ravens have need at TE and WR and at ILB and the OL.

Baltimore fans preferred a selection at WR of D.J. Moore over Calvin Ridley. I'm not so sure given Calvin Ridley's credentials that's their best option.

As I see it the University of Alabama has produced another top notch first round WR talent with an NFL.com Grade of 6.40 in Calvin Ridley.

Out of high school, Calvin Ridley was the best WR prospect in the country. He immediately made an impact for Alabama. Calvin Ridley is known for running crisp routes and utilizing top tier speed to get open. He has outstanding hands and an ability to adjust to the ball. I believe like most Analysts that he's the best receiver in this class. If he can improve on beating press coverage at the line of scrimmage, he can consistently win in the NFL.

The Baltimore Ravens pick Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama.

Excellent pick.

If Ridley is available and the Packers don't pick him, they're gonna regret the decision. Could be Randy Moss all over again.

[mraynrand]

Excellent pick.

If Ridley is available and the Packers don't pick him, they're gonna regret the decision. Could be Randy Moss all over again.

Maybe Moss is a bit too much, but let's just say for argument he's worthy of a top 15 pick. Wouldn't it be nice to have a real stud of a receiver to go along with Rodgers at his peak? Packers with Favre and Rodgers have had some decent receivers (Freeman, Brooks, Jennings, Nelson) but they really have not had a truly First team all-pro quality stud receiver since Sterling Sharpe. And having a guy like that can make everyone else more effective. I find myself thinking of Vernon Davis versus AJ Hawk...

But Packers need defensive backs so maybe we trade down and draft a couple of Randalls...

[RashanGary]

Damn, Ridley does look impressive. So smooth and fast and smart. Reminds me of Greg Jennings. And AR always plays best with smart, savvy players. Shit, he might be the guy.

[RashanGary]

10 sack guys are harder to find though. If Landry or Davenport is one of those, it would be hard. There is so much that goes into the draft. I cant even begin to get my mind wrapped around it.

[RashanGary]

The nice thing is, most years we dont even get to think about guys like Ridley, or landry even.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Maybe Moss is a bit too much, but let's just say for argument he's worthy of a top 15 pick. Wouldn't it be nice to have a real stud of a receiver to go along with Rodgers at his peak? Packers with Favre and Rodgers have had some decent receivers (Freeman, Brooks, Jennings, Nelson) but they really have not had a truly First team all-pro quality stud receiver since Sterling Sharpe. And having a guy like that can make everyone else more effective. I find myself thinking of Vernon Davis versus AJ Hawk...

But Packers need defensive backs so maybe we trade down and draft a couple of Randalls...

Good post. The corner depth in this year's draft is supposed to be good. Starter quality corners should be available in rounds 2-4.

Stay tuned for my 2018 "My Mastery Mockery of a Draft" to find out which corners Herr Gutekunst should pick.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Damn, Ridley does look impressive. So smooth and fast and smart. Reminds me of Greg Jennings. And AR always plays best with smart, savvy players. Shit, he might be the guy.

:tup:

[pbmax]

Twitter rumors have Sutton moving ahead of Ridley on NFL team boards.

[red]

Twitter rumors have Sutton moving ahead of Ridley on NFL team boards.

i said that a month or two ago

he's bigger

[bobblehead]

The chargers OL is lacking, its a good thing Rivers is the best hot read QB in the game...he needs to be. The chargers are thrilled to find the best OT prospect in the draft still available here and grab Connor Williams. He has the ability (feet) to play LT, but the nasty streak and run blocking ability to play RT. After signing Okung to man the LT, drafting Williams to man the RT keeps the immobile Rivers clean to throw to Keenan Allen and second round pick....

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- wthigoot
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2


wthigoot and the Seattle SeaHawks Pick is on the Clock.

[wthigoot]

SEATTLE SEAHAWKS – PICK #18

The Seahawks will listen for trade downs as they would really like to add a Day 2 pick. At #18 though, there are a number of good options:

DT Da'Ron Payne has size and agility and can stop the run. He would add heft to a fairly light DL.
RB Derrius Guice is compact and fast. Could be the breakout RB they have been missing since Marshawn Lynch.
CB Josh Jackson is a ballhawk CB with good size and decent speed.
WR Courtland Sutton would add a bigger receiving threat, while WR DJ Moore has the speed to get deep.

Seattle is always looking for defense and doesn’t hesitate to take a fast riser as they did with Bruce Irvin. LB Leighton Vander Esch has the size, speed and agility they are looking for; he has good instincts and plays well in coverage. Starting LBs Wagner and Wright both played more than 90% of the snaps last year and there is very little depth, so Vander Esch can play right away while working to add strength for run defense.

With the 18th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks select:

Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State

[woodbuck27]

Excellent pick.

If Ridley is available and the Packers don't pick him, they're gonna regret the decision. Could be Randy Moss all over again.

This wasn't an easy Pick ! I might have easily gone in a different direction.

Here's how the Baltimore Raven Fan's saw it in a POLL Selection Process:

With the 16th pick in the 2018 Beatdown mock draft, the Baltimore Ravens select and that POLL"s Results follows:

NO. 2 ... 23% Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (278 votes)

NO. 3 ... 22% Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (271 votes)

**********************************************

NO. 4 ... 14% Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama (167 votes) ...and I love this Football PLAYER. I believe I know where he is the perfect fit and it will be interesting to see if he lands there in our MOCK. If he isn't selected in our Mock in Round 1 that's just wrong. I saw him working at ILB with an aging **** OLB Terrell Suggs and now add the presence of former Crimson Tide Player *** C.J. Mosley. Yikes !

**** http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellsuggs/2505660/careerstats

Terrell Suggs Stat's

*** http://www.nfl.com/player/c.j.mosley/2543464/profile

C. J. Mosley Stat's.

************************************************

2% Mike Hughes, CB, UCF (22 votes)

7% Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (84 votes)


************************************************

THE WINNER !

The selection in their POLL was:

NO 1 ... 32% D.J. Moore, WR, Maryland (393 votes) NOTE: In later weeks some Teams and their Fan bases are preferring D. J. Moore over Calvin Ridley.

1215 votes total

[woodbuck27]

10 sack guys are harder to find though. If Landry or Davenport is one of those, it would be hard. There is so much that goes into the draft. I cant even begin to get my mind wrapped around it.

If Anti -- Polar Bear doesn't pick Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville for the Arizona Cardinals I would have seriously thought of making him a Baltimore Raven.

You have to Mock Draft for fit. I believe going BPA is a cop out. It was with a load of thought I went Calvin Ridley and The Ravens.

That's why as NFL and Packer fans we should get involved in at least the Mock Draft Process. Imagine now making up your Draft Board and seating out those Football players you really want to take a risk on.

Every Pick is an important decision. You cannot just grap anyone as every pick has to be seriously considered and you need to be aware of the whole process as to what other teams are doing as to how that impacts your Board..

You need a seriously intelligent and all in dedicated 'Scout and Draft TEAM' that's focused and on the ball.

I take this seriously. :-) and have a blast learning as well. It sure helps and understanding the NFL as a whole. Right now I feel I know where ILB Rashaan Evans from Alabama should likely land on our Mock. He's a solid fit for this team and as he was a solid fit as well for Baltimore.

It'll be interesting where in our Mock he does land.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- Joemailman 2 has picked William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2


Pick NO. 19 and Joemailman and the DALLAS Cowboys Pick is on thje Clock.

[Joemailman]

Cowboys would have loved to have Calvin Ridley or Leighton Vander Esch. With those gone, Cowboys will strengthen their interior offensive line with William Hernandez, G, UTEP

The Detroit Lions and Deputy Nutz are on the clock.

[Zool]

2 guards in the top 20. Anyone have time to research the last time that happened?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wow, didn't think that the Cowboys needed OL, that pick's a shocker.

[Zool]

2 guards in the top 20. Anyone have time to research the last time that happened?

Well in 2016 2 OG were taken in the first round. I wouldn’t have guessed.

[woodbuck27]

Wow, didn't think that the Cowboys needed OL, that pick's a shocker.

That pick by joemailman was 'in fact' very solid.

Why?

In latter Drafts the Boys invested three first-round picks on the OL and LT Tyron Smith, C Travis Frederick and RG Zach Martin who were all hits !

RT La’el Collins, had a first-round grade coming out of LSU and has tremendous upside. Collins waa moved to Tackle after two seasons at LG. The Cowboys now need a better option at LG.

Last year Jonathan Cooper (a former NO. 1 Pick for Arizona) manned the LG spot for Dallas. He never panned out for Arizona, the NE Patriots or the Cleveland Browns prior to landing with the Cowboys. He was clearly the weak link of the Dallas OL.

If Dallas can find themselves a better starter at LG, they could see a solid upswing in production from both RB Ezekiel Elliott and QB Dac Prescott.

See (again) joemailman's Pick and a very solid bet as the answer for Dallas and the LG Position; UTEP guard Will Hernandez.

[woodbuck27]

Twitter rumors have Sutton moving ahead of Ridley on NFL team boards.

Comment woodbuck27:

They can Twitter all they want because at the end of the day the Analysts will inform the NFL Nation who the best WR's are and in what order of Ranking.

From NFL.Com

Published: April 12, 2018 at 04:54 p.m. Updated: April 13, 2018 at 10:23 a.m.

Calvin Ridley, D.J. Moore head 2018 NFL Draft's wide receiver class

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000926169/article/calvin-ridley-dj-moore-head-2018-nfl-drafts-wide-receiver-class

Also:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet

Among the WR prospects the #Cowboys have had in for top 30 pre-draft visits: #Bama WR Calvin Ridley, #Maryland WR DJ Moore, #OKState WR James Washington, and #Florida WR Antonio Callaway. Jason Garrett was also the only head coach at #SMU WR Courtland Sutton’s Pro Day. 10:20 AM - 13 Apr 2018

Also:

See my Post #176 this thread and my position on Dallas picking at Pick NO. 19 to Upgrade their OL at LG and choosing Guard ... William Hernandez, G, UTEP

Possibly that might change with the WR Dez Bryant release on Friday 13 April, 2018?

[woodbuck27]

Twitter rumors have Sutton moving ahead of Ridley on NFL team boards.

https://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2018.asp

https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-WRs-2018-Draft.asp

See Dallas's Mocked Picks at NO. 19:

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft/

[Cheesehead Craig]

My point about Dallas is that their secondary is terrible and with CB Josh Jackson available, that would have been a better pick. They already have a top 5 OL. So why bolster an already huge strength in Rd 1 when you can help one of the worst secondaries? But, it's only a mock draft so it can be mocked. Mock Mock Mock. On to pick #20!

[mraynrand]

My point about Dallas is that their secondary is terrible and with CB Josh Jackson available, that would have been a better pick. They already have a top 5 OL. So why bolster an already huge strength in Rd 1 when you can help one of the worst secondaries? But, it's only a mock draft so it can be mocked. Mock Mock Mock. On to pick #20!

no effing way Dallas drafts a lineman #1.

[wthigoot]

no effing way Dallas drafts a lineman #1.

Maybe they can do the new Woody Hayes offense. 3 yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

[woodbuck27]

Cowboys would have loved to have Calvin Ridley or Leighton Vander Esch. With those gone, Cowboys will strengthen their interior offensive line with William Hernandez, G, UTEP

The Detroit Lions and Deputy Nutz are on the clock.

Deputy Nutz has been on the clock for 19 Hours !

Isn't anyone's responsibility to attend to their pick held to some standard of accountability here?

Should we be concerned about Deputy Nutz?

Has the Power gone out where he lives?

Have we aborted this MOCK for the Weekend?

Shouldn't we in the future set a time limit of say 4 Hours Max and making a pick; Do we need a Poll?

I can make the pick in 45 Minutes.There are so many smart asses here that might Trump that.

Maybe better, some two members here agree on a solid pick after any member not making his Pick and being on the clock for 4 Hours maximum.

Let's get this show back on the road.

[mraynrand]

Maybe they can do the new Woody Hayes offense. 3 yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

lol

[mraynrand]

Deputy Nutz has been on the clock for 18 Hours !

Isn't anyone's responsibility to attend to their pick held to some standard of accountability here?

Should we be concerned about Deputy Nutz?

Have we aborted this MOCK for the Weekend?

Shouldn't we in the future set a time limit of say 4 Hours Max before someone; or maybe better, some two members here agree on a solid pick after any member not making his Pick and being on the clock for 4 Hours.

He's a school teacher. He only posts when he's at work.

[woodbuck27]

https://www.google.ca/search?source=hp&ei=SyjSWqrVCsHR5gLNv7H4CQ&q=wisconsin+weather+14+April+2018&oq=wisconsin+weather+14+April+2018&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3391.28297.0.29082.31.27.0.4.4.0.217.2891.1 6j10j1.27.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.30.2831...0j46j0i131k1j0i46k1j0i22i30k1j33i2 2i29i30k1.0.MDPGcpFeLmo

Madison, WI, USA

Saturday 14 April, 2018 ....... Freezing Rain (Temp 2 Celcius.- about 36 Deg. F)

Precipitation 40%...Humidity 85% and Wind about 24 MPH.

Deputy Nutz may have lost his Power?

If I don't make a Pick inside of two hours you can bet the Power is out here. Last night we got about three inches of the White Stuff.

Winter is hanging on like a Cow Dog on a Bulls nuts.

[mraynrand]

Winter is hanging on like a Cow Dog on a Bulls nuts.

lol

[bobblehead]

Just an FYI I leave for vacation in 7 hours and I have the Titans pick. If it isn't made by the time I leave I will PM PbMax with a short list and maybe even 2 alternate write ups.

[woodbuck27]

The Detroit Lions have six picks in the 2018 NFL Draft, including No. 20

THE TOP 3 DETROIT LIONS NEEDS IN 2018 DRAFT

1. PASS RUSH: The Lions have immediate and long term needs at DE, Ezekiel Ansah getting the tag and possibly headed out as a FA (2019) has to be a concern. Anthony Zettel and Kerry Hyder (coming off a torn Achilles) are the Lions' No's. 2 and 3 DE's. Devon Kennard adds a pass-rushing element to the edge from his linebacker spot, After that the Lions are thin.

They must therefore get one quality prospect to address the issue and Pass Rush. Where is that most likely but in Round One.

Possible choices are:

EDGE Marcus Davenport UTSA -6'6" - 264 lbs;

Arden Key - LSU 6'5" - 238 lbs (Some Issues) ;

DL - 3 Tech Taven Bryan - Florida -6'5" - 291 lbs or DL- 3 Tech Maurice Hurst - Michigan 6'1" - 292 lbs or

ILB Rashaan Evans - Alabama- 6'2" - 232 lbs

2. Running back: No team was worse running the ball than the Lions last year, and the organization went into this offseason planning to add a veteran in free agency and a rookie through the draft. Ameer Abdullah, Theo Riddick, Zach Zenner and Tion Green all return from last season, but none is the long-term answer to the Lions' problems. Patricia believes in a running back-by-committee approach, so the Lions don't necessarily have to spend a top pick on the position. But they need to add someone who can be the focal point of the running game going forward.

As attractive as Featured RB Derrius Guice - LSU and 5'-10" and 224 lbs may be !? Is he the right investment and Round one?


3. Interior offensive line: The Lions have a big question mark on the offensive line entering the draft. Graham Glasgow has made starts at both center and left guard the last two years, and if he moves to center full-time then Joe Dahl is the favorite to start at guard. Dahl is inexperienced. They signed FA's Wesley Johnson and Kenny Wiggins Does those moves inspire confidence? With right guard T.J. Lang entering his age-31 season, it's imperative the Lions draft an interior lineman.

They can wait until at least Round Three to do that.

Personally I believe that Deputy Nutz will pick:

Round One and Pick NO. 20: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio

Deputy Nutz might consider @ RB and Round 2-Pick 51 Overall: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia (5-11, 214.

I see Options at C/C in Round Three.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Deputy Nutz 2
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Deputy Nutz with the Detroit Lions Pick at NO. 20 is on the clock and has been for > 20 HOurs now.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/smithore/smithore0904/smithore090400031/4774971-drunk-man-lying-on-the-floor-at-home-with-many-empty-bottles-Stock-Photo.jpg

He's concerned over getting this Pick 'just' right.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Deputy Nutz has been on the clock for 19 Hours !

Isn't anyone's responsibility to attend to their pick held to some standard of accountability here?

Should we be concerned about Deputy Nutz?

Has the Power gone out where he lives?

Have we aborted this MOCK for the Weekend?

Shouldn't we in the future set a time limit of say 4 Hours Max and making a pick; Do we need a Poll?

I can make the pick in 45 Minutes.There are so many smart asses here that might Trump that.

Maybe better, some two members here agree on a solid pick after any member not making his Pick and being on the clock for 4 Hours maximum.

Let's get this show back on the road.

Partial is always online and he's a facebook friend of Nutz. Ask Partial to send Nutz a facebook message. Pretty sure Nutz has a smart phone with the facebook app. He'll receive Partial's msg immediately, and immediately pick a playa via his phone.

I would do it, but Nutz refuses to accept my friend request.

[pbmax]

Maybe they can do the new Woody Hayes offense. 3 yards and a cloud of rubber pellets.

Very nice! +1

[pbmax]

Just an FYI I leave for vacation in 7 hours and I have the Titans pick. If it isn't made by the time I leave I will PM PbMax with a short list and maybe even 2 alternate write ups.

Works for me.

[woodbuck27]

Partial is always online and he's a facebook friend of Nutz. Ask Partial to send Nutz a facebook message. Pretty sure Nutz has a smart phone with the facebook app. He'll receive Partial's msg immediately, and immediately pick a playa via his phone.

I would do it, but Nutz refuses to accept my friend request.

The Deputy only needs one Friend and he's dedicated to Skinbasket who's 'a very jealous fella'.

They have a special bond that cannot be in any way compromised.

https://previews.123rf.com/images/jackf/jackf1509/jackf150901268/44972641-positive-conversation-between-two-adult-smiling-male-friends-indoors.jpg

[woodbuck27]

21 HOURS ! .................................................. ......... and waiting !

[woodbuck27]

Jaysus ! There is one logical pick:

Round One and Pick NO. 20:The Detroit Lions pick >>> Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio

Make that pick 'someone closer to GOD here' and let's move forward.

If the Deputy wants to substitute he has every other Prospect remaining in the Draft minus the Piks that follow.

This isn't Rocket Science. :-)

That's why esoxx and I are Co 'Presidents and CEO's' of the Packerrats Fictional Green Bay Packers BRASS.

[woodbuck27]

Hey ! Packerrats made it to 24 Hours and no Pick.

Another ** World Record and demonstrating; "not giving a F -- K ".

** I believe The Brett Favre 'the Living Legend' Thread might be the Biggest Total Text Thread of all Forums on the Internet.

[woodbuck27]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2018/04/13/detroit-lions-nfl-draft/514743002/

2018 NFL draft: 6 possibilities for Detroit Lions first-round pick

Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press Published 3:56 p.m. ET April 13, 2018 | Updated 10:59 p.m. ET April 13, 2018

[Bretsky]

I sent Nutz a FB message

cheers
Brett

[Guiness]

Meanwhile, Mike Brown can be seen glaring at Detroits GM while simultaneously swatting away Andy Dalton who keeps whispering Billy Price, James Daniels, Isaiah Wynn, Mike McGlinchey and the names of other OL left on the board in his ear...

Despite the two guards being gone, seems to me there are some quality OL on the board and the Bengals are in the enviable position of BPA and need lining up.

[pbmax]

Actual draft is April 26th. We've got time. I needed to reset my board to frustrate Rand with the Steelers pick.

[Deputy Nutz]

Detroit Rock City!!!

[Deputy Nutz]

This is an easy choice for the Lions. The Lions need another pass rusher to upgrade the front seven and to have good rushers coming from both sides. The Lions are in a position to draft best player available and select Marcus Davenport Edge UTSA.

I can't believe you all waited 24+ hours for this.

And Woody, fuck you! Get a fucking life you inbred cocksucker!

[Deputy Nutz]

Partial is always online and he's a facebook friend of Nutz. Ask Partial to send Nutz a facebook message. Pretty sure Nutz has a smart phone with the facebook app. He'll receive Partial's msg immediately, and immediately pick a playa via his phone.

I would do it, but Nutz refuses to accept my friend request.

I don't think I am friends with Partial on Facebook. If you friend requested me and I declined it is because I talk a lot of shit on Facebook and people might want to know my personal locations.

[woodbuck27]

This is an easy choice for the Lions. The Lions need another pass rusher to upgrade the front seven and to have good rushers coming from both sides. The Lions are in a position to draft best player available and select Marcus Davenport Edge UTSA.

I can't believe you all waited 24+ hours for this.

And Woody, fuck you! Get a fucking life you inbred cocksucker!

Deputy:

I'm just so happy you finally made it out of the Wood's before we alerted Search and Rescue:

https://i2.wp.com/thefwoosh.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Creatureplica-Sasquatch.jpg?resize=640%2C412

Nutz returning from an overnighter with Skinbasket.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Marcus Davenport , EDGE, UTSA
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Guiness 2
22 Buffalo Bills -- BZnDallas
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Jaysus 'H' Murphy that took awhile (27.5 Hours) and The Deputy sets a new record for procrastination..... way to go ! :-)

Pick NO. 21 and Guiness with the Cincinnati Bengals Pick is now on the Clock.

[Deputy Nutz]

Speaking of Skinbasket he was supposed to get back from his overseas trip and I haven't heard from him. I was worried he and his party would be savagely raped by the indigenous people of the area, and I think my worst fears are soon to be confirmed. Goddamn cannibals...

[mraynrand]

Nobody likes getting rapped by savages


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytUWOjQTJ4E

[woodbuck27]

Speaking of Skinbasket he was supposed to get back from his overseas trip and I haven't heard from him. I was worried he and his party would be savagely rapped by the indigenous people of the area, and I think my worst fears are soon to be confirmed. Goddamn cannibals...

I know.....

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lowres.cartoonstock.com/death-cooking-cooks-cooking_cots-cannibals-cauldrons-daln329_low.jpg

Travel used to be so much more fun but of late it's become too Cultural in nature.

[Bretsky]

HOODY GENIUS IS SMOKING CIGARS DRINKING RUM AND COKE'S IN HIS OLD GRAY HOODIE WITH A BIG SMILE AS ALL OF THIS TARGETS ARE STILL OUT THERE

[pbmax]

Speaking of Skinbasket he was supposed to get back from his overseas trip and I haven't heard from him. I was worried he and his party would be savagely raped by the indigenous people of the area, and I think my worst fears are soon to be confirmed. Goddamn cannibals...

Went to Key West huh?

[bobblehead]

This might work. Will make my pick from key west tomorrow.

[bobblehead]

Went to Key West huh?

Holy shit,.posted before i read this....

[Guiness]

When the Bengals get on the clock, they like what they see. 4 QBs and 3 LBs pushes good players to them.

Good news is there are no TEs off the board, and with Eifert nearing the end they need one. Bad news: no TEs are worth a first round pick this year.

There is no doubt they need OL help, pretty much everywhere except LT. McGlinchey is a consideration here, but they see better value. Interior linemen can be had later.

Two players have fallen a lot farther than expected. Joshua Jackson is tempting, especially with Pacman Jones gone, but the guy they can't take their eyes off is Da'Ron Payne. After displaying surprising speed at the combine (a 4.95 40 at 311lbs, and a 10 yard split faster than Bosa) he could've gone in the top 10, but there he is at 21.

Cinncinati Bengals select Da'Ron Payne, Alabama

So, um, Roll Tide!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=31&v=n_RJzHnKWV4

[BZnDallas]

Buffalo was upset at first when they couldn't combine their 2 no.1s and jump up to draft their QB of the future. Low and behold their guy, or the guy they'll go to their grave saying was the choice all along, falls to 12 and the Buffalo Bills come away with Josh Allen and getting to keep their other 1st round pick.

With that second first round pick, the Buffalo Bills would like to help protect their QB of the future. And With 3 recent offensive line vacancies the Bills are in need of help along that offensive line. James Daniels, the combo Guard/Center from Iowa gives the Bills some flexibility when trying to fill the other line positions. So when the 22nd pick is announced in the Packer Rats NFL Mock Draft 2018, the Buffalo Bills select James Daniels.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I don't think I am friends with Partial on Facebook. If you friend requested me and I declined it is because I talk a lot of shit on Facebook and people might want to know my personal locations.

Damn, thought the two of you hit it off at the Packerrats Get Together games.

If there's ever another Packerrats Get Together, I'm in if Harlan's in. :)

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Marcus Davenport , EDGE, UTSA
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama
22 Buffalo Bills -- James Daniels., Center, IOWA
23 New England Patriots -- Bretsky
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Pick NO. 23 and Bretsky with the New England Patriots Pick is now on the Clock.

[woodbuck27]

Damn, thought the two of you hit it off at the Packerrats Get Together games.

If there's ever another Packerrats Get Together, I'm in if Harlan's in. :)

Anti-Polar Bear why does your above Post remind me of this movie?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/The_Bodyguard_1992_Film_Poster.jpg

[woodbuck27]

I just looked at the height of the OT's in this Draft:

In a solid TOP TEN Ranking; I see six (6) Tackles that are 6' - 6 " or taller.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Anti-Polar Bear why does your above Post remind me of this movie?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/The_Bodyguard_1992_Film_Poster.jpg

I've not yet checked out that movie. But it would be cool to have a wingman/bodyguard at a packerrats gathering. Harlan would make an excellent wingman/bodyguard. Haha.

[Bretsky]

Despite their losses in free agency, the New England Patriots have one of the deepest rosters in the league. However, there are still some noticeable holes that need to be addressed both in the short and in the long run: from starting left tackle to linebacker to cornerback to developmental quarterback. Entering this month's draft with plenty of capital, the Patriots will have plenty of chances to bolster all of those positions.

The Patriots select the top offensive tackle to enter this year's draft: Mike McGlinchey. The Notre Dame product offers ideal size (the 6'8, 310 lbs), plenty of experience and athletic upside, and is already a very good run blocker that has the potential to become a first-class pass protector as well.

He starts day one in Nick Solders spot

NE cannot believe he lasted this far. They have four players left who are in the tier of top 20 players and they take the BPA on their board.

Hoody Genius goes back to kicking back in his recliner, mixing up another Rum and Coke with the knowledge that he has a LT for the next 10 yearsw

[woodbuck27]

I've not yet checked out that movie. But it would be cool to have a wingman/bodyguard at a packerrats gathering. Harlan would make an excellent wingman/bodyguard. Haha.

Yup.... Harlan..he's your MAN ! :idea:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Hulk_%28comics_character%29.png

" Don't mess with Tank." Harlan Huckleby

[woodbuck27]

Despite their losses in free agency, the New England Patriots have one of the deepest rosters in the league. However, there are still some noticeable holes that need to be addressed both in the short and in the long run: from starting left tackle to linebacker to cornerback to developmental quarterback. Entering this month's draft with plenty of capital, the Patriots will have plenty of chances to bolster all of those positions.

The Patriots select the top offensive tackle to enter this year's draft: Mike McGlinchey. The Notre Dame product offers ideal size (the 6'8, 310 lbs), plenty of experience and athletic upside, and is already a very good run blocker that has the potential to become a first-class pass protector as well.

He starts day one in Nick Solders spot

NE cannot believe he lasted this far. They have four players left who are in the tier of top 20 players and they take the BPA on their board.

Hoody Genius goes back to kicking back in his recliner, mixing up another Rum and Coke with the knowledge that he has a LT for the next 10 yearsw

Solid as usual Bretzky. I had your pick (and another solid option) as well in that slot. Your correct and Belichick will love how Packerats picks for his Patriots.

I also liked Guiness's Pick NO.21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama as one that fits the Draft Pundits Analysis for the Bengals.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Despite their losses in free agency, the New England Patriots have one of the deepest rosters in the league. However, there are still some noticeable holes that need to be addressed both in the short and in the long run: from starting left tackle to linebacker to cornerback to developmental quarterback. Entering this month's draft with plenty of capital, the Patriots will have plenty of chances to bolster all of those positions.

The Patriots select the top offensive tackle to enter this year's draft: Mike McGlinchey. The Notre Dame product offers ideal size (the 6'8, 310 lbs), plenty of experience and athletic upside, and is already a very good run blocker that has the potential to become a first-class pass protector as well.

He starts day one in Nick Solders spot

NE cannot believe he lasted this far. They have four players left who are in the tier of top 20 players and they take the BPA on their board.

Hoody Genius goes back to kicking back in his recliner, mixing up another Rum and Coke with the knowledge that he has a LT for the next 10 yearsw

Good pick, nice write-up. Athough I were a GM, I'd never draft a fat guy (offensive linemen, fat defensive linemen) in the 1st round. They lack exoticness.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Yup.... Harlan..he's your MAN ! :idea:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/Hulk_%28comics_character%29.png

" Don't mess with Tank." Harlan Huckleby

:tup:

[woodbuck27]

Pick NO.24 for the Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot is on the Clock.

[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Marcus Davenport , EDGE, UTSA
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama
22 Buffalo Bills -- James Daniels., Center, IOWA
23 New England Patriots -- Mike McGlinchey. OT, Notre Dame
24 Carolina Panthers -- wthigoot 2
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Pick NO. 24 and wthigoot with the Carolina Panthers Pick is now on the Clock.

[Guiness]

Solid as usual Bretzky. I had your pick (and another solid option) as well in that slot. Your correct and Belichick will love how Packerats picks for his Patriots.

I also liked Guiness's Pick NO.21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama as one that fits the Draft Pundits Analysis for the Bengals.

McGlinchey is a good choice in this spot. Him, Joshua Jackson and Payne were the 3 guys I saw as value picks/BPA in the 21 spot.

[woodbuck27]

McGlinchey is a good choice in this spot. Him, Joshua Jackson and Payne were the 3 guys I saw as value picks/BPA in the 21 spot.

Yup. I'm watching for CB Joshua Jackson to come off our Board between Picks 29 - 31.

I've a feel for the Pittsburgh Steelers Pick at NO. 28 and I wonder if I'll be right there.

[Bretsky]

McGlinchey is a good choice in this spot. Him, Joshua Jackson and Payne were the 3 guys I saw as value picks/BPA in the 21 spot.

A few guys I like better than Joshua Jackson there; even at CB; maybe it's just because I hate Iowa

[Bretsky]

Solid as usual Bretzky. I had your pick (and another solid option) as well in that slot. Your correct and Belichick will love how Packerats picks for his Patriots.

I also liked Guiness's Pick NO.21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama as one that fits the Draft Pundits Analysis for the Bengals.


I was wrestling between two guys there; hopefully the other falls right to me

[woodbuck27]

A few guys I like better than Joshua Jackson there; even at CB; maybe it's just because I hate Iowa

This CB Prospect:

a tough, instinctive CB prospect. He spent the majority of his time on the outside, but he did take a few reps at the nickel spot.

He's excellent in press coverage. He consistently re-routes his opponent with a quick two-hand ja

He has a little stiffness when he opens up, but he's rarely out of position underneath or down the field.

From off coverage, he has a choppy pedal, but he boasts an excellent burst out of his plant and drive.

His route recognition, throw anticipation and ball awareness are elite.

He collected several pass breakups in every game I studied.

He's very willing in run support and provides some big hits.

Overall, (he) acks ideal fluidity, but I love his instincts, swagger and ball skills.

That's Daniel Jeremiah's synopsis on CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville. His NO. 16 Ranked Prospect.

NOTE:

** C Mike Hughes is Jeremiah's NO. 18 Ranked Prospect on his TOP 50 Board.

Daniel Jeremiah has moved CB Josh Jackson down NINE Slots to his NO. 27th Ranked Prospect of his Top 50.

NO. 28 ... Donte Jackson, CB, LSU

NO. 36 ... Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado

[woodbuck27]

Buffalo was upset at first when they couldn't combine their 2 no.1s and jump up to draft their QB of the future. Low and behold their guy, or the guy they'll go to their grave saying was the choice all along, falls to 12 and the Buffalo Bills come away with Josh Allen and getting to keep their other 1st round pick.

With that second first round pick, the Buffalo Bills would like to help protect their QB of the future. And With 3 recent offensive line vacancies the Bills are in need of help along that offensive line. James Daniels, the combo Guard/Center from Iowa gives the Bills some flexibility when trying to fill the other line positions. So when the 22nd pick is announced in the Packer Rats NFL Mock Draft 2018, the Buffalo Bills select James Daniels.

Nice Pick:

Ranked at NO. 23 in Daniel Jeremiah's TOP Fifty Prospects:

James Daniels, C, Iowa 6' - 3 " 306 lbs and in his last update raised this Prospect up 2 slots.

" Daniels is a very athletic and technically proficient center. In the run game, he's extremely quick and effective on reach blocks and second-level blocks.

I'm amazed by his ability to stay attached with his hands while he re-works his foot positioning.

In pass pro, he plays with outstanding knee bend and balance. He shoots his hands quickly and can anchor against power as well as redirect vs. counters.

He's very aware. Daniels is one of the best center prospects I've evaluated in the last five years.

[wthigoot]

CAROLINA PANTHERS – PICK #24

The Panthers were a wild card playoff team last year and have a few positions where youth needs to be added. Some options:

RB Derrius Guice is compact and fast. They have McCaffrey but could add another back after releasing Jonathan Stewart.
CB Josh Jackson or CB Jaire Alexander could add depth since Bashaud Breeland was not signed.
WR DJ Moore has the speed to get deep.
S Justin Reid would would become a solid starter for an aging position.
OG Isaiah Wynn would fill what is currently a hole at LG.

Another position that needs some youth is at DE. Both starters are over 30 and Julius Peppers is 38. DE Taven Bryan has the speed and quickness to start at DE. He can play in the DE rotation (while learning from Peppers) and should be a starter in his second year.

With the 24th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers select:

Taven Bryan, DT, Florida

Edit: Bryan played DT at Florida and is listed at DT. He could play either but to me looks more like a DE in the NFL.

[woodbuck27]

I was wrestling between two guys there; hopefully the other falls right to me

I've got to pick for the NO Saints and that's turning out to be a messy pick given the value remaining on the Board Vs NEED. DL; OL; QB;TE and WR.

[woodbuck27]

CAROLINA PANTHERS – PICK #24

The Panthers were a wild card playoff team last year and have a few positions where youth needs to be added. Some options:

RB Derrius Guice is compact and fast. They have McCaffrey but could add another back after releasing Jonathan Stewart.
CB Josh Jackson or CB Jaire Alexander could add depth since Bashaud Breeland was not signed.
WR DJ Moore has the speed to get deep.
S Justin Reid would would become a solid starter for an aging position.
OG Isaiah Wynn would fill what is currently a hole at LG.

Another position that needs some youth is at DE. Both starters are over 30 and Julius Peppers is 38. DE Taven Bryan has the speed and quickness to start at DE. He can play in the DE rotation (while learning from Peppers) and should be a starter in his second year.

With the 24th pick in the 2018 NFL Draft, the Carolina Panthers select:

Taven Bryan, DT, Florida

Edit: Bryan played DT at Florida and is listed at DT. He could play either but to me looks more like a DE in the NFL.

A solid pick for the Panthers and given the strength of this Draft. Many Teams need to hit on the Round One pick.

A prominent NFL Draft Analyst has these comments on DT3T Taven Bryen:

Taven Bryan, DT, Florida

" ... He's a very athletic, twitched-up defensive tackle. As a pass rusher, he has an excellent get-off. He launches out of his stance and flashes an impressive push/pull move to generate pressure. When he has proper hand placement, he can push the pocket with outstanding power. ..."

Criticisms:

" He needs to add more hand moves to his arsenal, but he has the raw tools to develop into an outstanding interior pass rusher at the next level.

Bryan is very inconsistent against the run. He plays too high, struggles to resist pressure on angle blocks and loses sight of the ball.

He's at his best when slanting and shooting gaps. Overall, Bryan isn't a finished product, but he has Pro Bowl-caliber traits and could emerge as a premier interior pass rusher."

[Deputy Nutz]

Bryan is not an end. He is more a penetrator from the 3 tech spot. He gets off the ball better than anyone in the draft but he struggles to anchor.

[mraynrand]

I've not yet checked out that movie. But it would be cool to have a wingman/bodyguard at a packerrats gathering. Harlan would make an excellent wingman/bodyguard. Haha.

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[woodbuck27]

Picks

1 Cleveland Browns -- Sam Darnold, QB, USC
2 New York Giants -- Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
3 New York Jets -- Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
4 Cleveland Browns -- Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
5 Denver Broncos -- Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame
6 Indianapolis Colts -- Denzel Ward, CB, OSU
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Derwin James, S, FSU
8 Chicago Bears -- Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virginia Tech
9 San Francisco 49ers -- Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
10 Oakland Raiders -- Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama
11 Miami Dolphins -- Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
12 Buffalo Bills -- Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
13 Washington Redskins -- Vita Vea, DT, Washington
14 Green Bay Packers -- POLL -- Harold Landry, Edge, Boston College
15 Arizona Cardinals -- Lamar Jackson , QB, Louisville
16 Baltimore Ravens -- Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
17 Los Angeles Chargers -- Connor Williams, OT, TEXAS
18 Seattle Seahawks -- Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
19 Dallas Cowboys -- William Hernandez, G, UTEP
20 Detroit Lions -- Marcus Davenport , EDGE, UTSA
21 Cincinnati Bengals -- Da'Ron Payne, DL1T - Alabama
22 Buffalo Bills -- James Daniels., Center, IOWA
23 New England Patriots -- Mike McGlinchey. OT, Notre Dame
24 Carolina Panthers -- Taven Bryan, DT, Florida
25 Tennessee Titans -- bobblehead
26 Atlanta Falcons -- SudsMcBucky
27 New Orleans Saints -- woodbuck 2
28 Pittsburgh Steelers -- pbmax 2
29 Jacksonville Jaguars -- yetisnowman 2
30 Minnesota Vikings -- Justin Harrell 2
31 New England Patriots -- Bretsky 2
32 Philadelphia Eagles -- Harvey's Wallbangers 2

Pick NO. 25 and bobblehead with the Tennessee Titans Pick is now on the Clock.

[KYPack]

Damn, thought the two of you hit it off at the Packerrats Get Together games.

If there's ever another Packerrats Get Together, I'm in if Harlan's in. :)

If not that, you could always call Rent-a-Friend, Tank.

They'll send you a companion of some sort.

For extra, they'll have the guy fake some rapport with ya.

[Bretsky]

was Bobble gone today and pb was making the pick, or am I hallucinating ?

[pbmax]

was Bobble gone today and pb was making the pick, or am I hallucinating ?

Bobble first indicated he would PM the pick. But after Nutz was AWOD for 24 hours, he said he would be at his designation in time for his pick. So I think he intends to make it later today. I have not received an message from him yet. Though I probably should check the emergency backup AOL email account.

[Deputy Nutz]

always blaming me. my pick got to me at the wrong time, Friday evening is the worst, I never check this forum on Friday night or the weekend.

The only Annual Packerrat Packer game weekend shindig. A helluva long time ago Tank. It was a fun time, but I can't remember hitting it off with Partial. I had a great time watching the game with Bretsky, Wallbangers and his long lost forum friend. Skinbasket got incredibly drunk on Saturday night and was in bed by 10:00, Tarlam disappeared before that due to jetlag. We all slowly caught up with Skinbasket and I was puking by 4:00am and taking turns on the toilet with Skinbasket the rest of the morning. Madtown was a trip, we didn't exactly hit it off at 7:00am on Sunday morning, but I think he is a pretty genuine dude. I can't really remember more than that. Packers did manage to lose to the Bears. Its too bad that the old guard of the forum is mostly gone, I know I have disappeared for years at time.

[wist43]

Maybe we could do a Round 2 mock draft, with poll - based on the results of this 1st round mock??

I think that Round 2 pick will be extremely interesting and valuable, if we indeed go with Landry in Round 1.

[Deputy Nutz]

sure!

Landry is a terrible reach

[HarveyWallbangers]

always blaming me. my pick got to me at the wrong time, Friday evening is the worst, I never check this forum on Friday night or the weekend.

The only Annual Packerrat Packer game weekend shindig. A helluva long time ago Tank. It was a fun time, but I can't remember hitting it off with Partial. I had a great time watching the game with Bretsky, Wallbangers and his long lost forum friend. Skinbasket got incredibly drunk on Saturday night and was in bed by 10:00, Tarlam disappeared before that due to jetlag. We all slowly caught up with Skinbasket and I was puking by 4:00am and taking turns on the toilet with Skinbasket the rest of the morning. Madtown was a trip, we didn't exactly hit it off at 7:00am on Sunday morning, but I think he is a pretty genuine dude. I can't really remember more than that. Packers did manage to lose to the Bears. Its too bad that the old guard of the forum is mostly gone, I know I have disappeared for years at time.

The game sucked, but that was a good time. There were actually two of those shindigs. I think that may have been the second year. I think the first one was the Atlanta game the first year Rodgers started. I remember the Oval Office and grabbing a few delicious brats from street vendors at 2am. GBM was a trooper for hosting some of us. Staying up all night with superfan and JustinHarrell playing guitar hero or something. I think Partial passed out. I also remember trying to teach Partial how to throw a football.

[woodbuck27]

sure!

Landry is a terrible reach

In fact EDGE Harold Landry does look like a wee bit of a reach until you do some more analysis.

The first WR was picked at Pick NO. 16 and through 24 Picks only one CB has been picked. Theses are both positions of major need for the Green Bay Packers; but I feel the major issue is an improved Pass Rush.

An improved Pass Rush will take some heat off; what right now appears to be a Secondary that's even worse than the mess we saw at DB last Season.

[woodbuck27]

always blaming me. my pick got to me at the wrong time, Friday evening is the worst, I never check this forum on Friday night or the weekend.

The only Annual Packerrat Packer game weekend shindig. A helluva long time ago Tank. It was a fun time, but I can't remember hitting it off with Partial. I had a great time watching the game with Bretsky, Wallbangers and his long lost forum friend. Skinbasket got incredibly drunk on Saturday night and was in bed by 10:00, Tarlam disappeared before that due to jetlag. We all slowly caught up with Skinbasket and I was puking by 4:00am and taking turns on the toilet with Skinbasket the rest of the morning. Madtown was a trip, we didn't exactly hit it off at 7:00am on Sunday morning, but I think he is a pretty genuine dude. I can't really remember more than that. Packers did manage to lose to the Bears. Its too bad that the old guard of the forum is mostly gone, I know I have disappeared for years at time.

Some of the Old Guard and you 'only' have to go to that Thread I mentioned earlier in this Thread to get the names of those once upon a time active Packerrats: If any Grad Students University (doing their Masters Degree) wanted to do a psychological study of the interaction and emotions of Sports fans. These (more than less) former members all posted on that thread; that may one day be known as the most famous Thread in the History of the Internet and Sports Fan (s) reactions to any Professional athlete.

Here's that list of names of former Packerrats and these simply taken from what may 'at least'very likely be the greatest Forum Thread in terms of ' the most text ' on the entire Internet

MOBB DEEP; Scott Campbell; LL2; MJZiggy; FavreChild; GrnBay007; GBRulz :

DannoMac21; gex; motife; Kiwon; boiga; Packers4Ever; superfan;Tarlam!; Partial

retailguy; Lurker64; Merlin; cpk1994; LEWCWA; SnakeLH2006; Brando19;

The Gunshooter; The Shadow; The Leaper; imscott72; packerbacker1234;

prsnfoto; Pacopete4; BallHawk; packinpatland; mmmdk (he's not posting here like he once did);

chevele2; Tyrone Bigguns; falco; b bulldog; the_idle_threat; Brainerd;

Charles Woodson; Kyle McCarroll; Tyrone Bigguns; arcilite; Gunakor;









:

[wist43]

sure!

Landry is a terrible reach

I don't think he's a reach... I voted for Landry in the poll; but, full disclosure, I would prefer any one of Ward, Fitzpatrick, or James over Landry.

[wist43]

I think WR is the toughest position to fill in the first 3 rds if our needs are Edge, CB, and WR.

[woodbuck27]

I don't think he's a reach... I voted for Landry in the poll; but, full disclosure, I would prefer any one of Ward, Fitzpatrick, or James over Landry.

I'd add LBers Tremaine Edmunds and Roquan Smith.

The thing is if ** Harold Landry is coached and plays up to his full potential he'll be a nice addition.

What's ** he going to be in the NFL an EDGE or a LBer?