Packers 2nd Round Mock Draft Packers Pick Poll

[Joemailman]

Who should the Packers pick in the 2nd round?

Poll To Follow.

[Bretsky]

Lorenzo Carter is not an option

[Bretsky]

The EZ call is to go for the CB: but I'm not sure CB is the BPA out of that group. I'd like to play devil's advocate and note GB has now re signed House (who had a good first half of the year) and Williams (who can may still play) and there are a lot of capable CB's in later rounds.

Should be interesting to see how this poll turns out

[pbmax]

Criminey, the mailman streets ahead of me this AM

[pbmax]

I don't know about a draft where wist and I agree twice. Kirk was a consideration, but I am not as worried about WR as some. Cobb and Monty can work the middle of the field.

Hayden Hurst, TE, still a need on a team that wants to carry 3 with only one frontline starter. He runs 2 routes, one that M3 will like (vertical down the seam) and one that he is not that familiar with (crossing route). He can move and carried the ball on end arounds. Willing but not strong blocker.

[wist43]

I think Kirk can play outside... I think he's way better than Cobb

He's an electric player, very quick in and out of his cuts. I think he'll get open a lot and Rogers will trust him

[woodbuck27]

The EZ call is to go for the CB: but I'm not sure CB is the BPA out of that group. I'd like to play devil's advocate and note GB has now re signed House (who had a good first half of the year) and Williams (who can may still play) and there are a lot of capable CB's in later rounds.

Should be interesting to see how this poll turns out

Your thinking correctly Bretsky. That's now it ' being a given ' and based on Packerrat knowledge; that NO. 14 will be best used to upgrade the Packer 'D' and PASS RUSH as an assist to a POOR Packer Secondary. Yes they've retained 28 Year Old CB Davon House and brought back FA CB (Yikes! - 35 Year Old) Tramon Williams The future is now solely with 2017 1st Rd. Pick CB Kevin King.



Right off the TOP we have far more pressing needs than another Non Blocking TE. We already are seeing the Packers spend $10 Million$ of CAP space on the same and 'blocking challenged - RED ZONE Specialist' Jimmy Graham. Why are we even realistically considering Pick NO. 45 and TE?

There should be better fits and BPA' Prospects available when the Packers are Picking and in OUR MOCK, than TE Prospects Mike Gesicki, PENN ST., GRADE = 5.92 and Hayden Hurst, SOUTH CAROLINA - GRADE = 5.90



So what is the best option at NO. 45 ie A.) their thinking and greatest need and WR or DB or B.) go BPA CB/WR or C.) Simply pick BPA!?

Also this POLL might have had solid Prospect Options for Pick NO. 45, i.e.:

As a Possible BPA ...

1. Safety Jason Reid, STANFORD with a (Typ.) NFL.COM Ranked at the 21st BEST Prospect and Grade of 6.06


2. ILB Malik Jefferson TEXAS ...WHY !? He looks like a late 4th or Early 5th Round Pick....There are many better Options as ILB Prospects or about 10 of them ! He's been falling like 'a Rock in water'. I've got him as the 148th Ranked Prospect NFL.COm with a GRADE = 5.57.

I see it this way:

At ILB go with one of these: Josey Jewell, Iowa, 6'1" and 234 lbs and GRADE = 5.57 OR Tegray Scales

Indiana, 6'0" and 230 lbs GRADE = 5.63 and NFL.COM Ranked 101 Prospect. OR Micah Kiser, Virginia, 6'0"and

238 lbs. GRADE = 5.59. Others that I'd Rank Higher and at the ILB Position are: Jerome Baker Ohio State 6'1" and 229 lbs

OR Mike McCray,,Michigan, 6'1" and 243 lbs OR Christian Sam, Arizona State, 6'1" and 244 lbs but NONE of these ILB's will realistically be considered at PICK NO. 45.

Why !?

The Packers will either Pick A) BPA or For Need, B) BPA WR or CB or given the serious weakness at DB and you cannot have enough CB's so in all likelihood BPA CB


Back to the Packers Round One Pick NO. 14 Overall:

What they do with that NO. 14 Pick is extremely vital and setting the tone for this Draft. That's why I'm living in a World of leaking a strong interest in QB Lamar Jackson my NO. 18th Overall Ranked Draft Prospect. Lamar Jackson,LOUISVILLE - GRADE 5.91 QB, Junior

I wouldn't expect too many here to see the smarts in really considering QB Lamar Jackson as the NO. 14 Pick. I really like this Football Player. I like his athleticism. I agree with Tom Brady that Lamar Jackson is 'a Beast'.

*** Lamar Jackson Heisman Highlights (2016)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBx2rostYBk


*** Lamar Jackson 2017-2018 Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDhwcRCPTv8

ILB's Josey Jewel or Jerome Baker may be serious considerations if their available in Round Three and Packer Pick NO. 76 Overall.



NOTE:

1A. CB Carleton Davis's NFL.COM GRADE = 6.00 and he graded better than CB's Mike Hughes ( 5.96); Isiah Oliver (5.90) and in the above POLL CB Donte Jackson ( 5.83)


2A. CB Carleton Davis got a NFL.COM GRADE of 6.00. and thus he's a solid Option at Pick NO. 45.


3A. I also think CB Quenton Meeks, Stanford - 6'1"and 209 lbs. is a solid NO. 45 Pick Option . I 'm looking for a GRADE on him but he's ranked just three position Overall rankings below CB Carleton Davis, Auburn (SEE !A, above).

Here's a Video LINK on CB Calvin Meeks Quenton Meeks - "Pac 12's Lockdown DB" | Official Stanford Highlights::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLYS7jF5WfY


4A. WRF Christian Kirk, Texas A&M -5'11" and 201 lbs. Graded at 5.83 and Ranked at NO. 52 of all Prospects. Those available as Prospects with higher Grades are:

WRF Deon Cain, Clemson, 6'2" and 200 lbs GRADE = 5.86 and Ranked at Number 46 of all Prospects ... AND ... WRS or Wide Receiver Special Purpose' - Antonio Callaway, Florida - 5'11" and 197 lbs. GRADE = 5.88 and Ranked at Number 40. of all Prospects..

5A. WRF D.J. Chark, LSU, - 6'3" and 187 lbs ... has and NFL.COM 48th Ranked GRADE = 5.84 and a solid Round Two Prospect at the Green Bay Packers Pick NO. 45.


6A. WR Anthony Miller, Memphis - 5'11" and 190 lbs GRADE 5.79 is NFL.Com's 61st Ranked Prospect Overall.



That's my view on this early stage and the Packerrats POLL for Pick NO. 45 in Round TWO of our MOCK.

[wist43]

I agree with Woody about tight end... wouldn't even consider any of these tight ends in the top three rounds.

As for cornerback I think Jackson, Davis, and strohman should all be included in the poll.

[pbmax]

Gonna be close!

you can vote for one of wist's alternate CBs in the Other, Please Specify choice.

[pbmax]

I think Kirk can play outside... I think he's way better than Cobb

He's an electric player, very quick in and out of his cuts. I think he'll get open a lot and Rogers will trust him

If true, then I am officially OK with this as well. But I suspect it will be a CB in the end.

[wthigoot]

What seem like best options after just a quick look:
WR - Kirk
S - Reid or Jesse Bates
RB - Rashad Penny
DL - Rasheem Green
LB, OL and TE not much here, more value later

Chose Carlton Davis. He is a little slower than the other CBs but has good size. Probably won't start right away but could be a starter in second year.

Trade down seems like a better idea, something like:
GB trades 45 to Dallas for 50 and 116
GB trades 116, 172, 207 to TB for 102
Now have first 2 picks on Day 3 or can combine 101 and 102 to move up to mid-third round.

[wthigoot]

I think Kirk can play outside... I think he's way better than Cobb

He's an electric player, very quick in and out of his cuts. I think he'll get open a lot and Rogers will trust him

Nice return option too. 5 TDs last 2 years (4 on punts), average over 20 yds on punt returns in 2016 and 2017.

[Bretsky]

KIRK itis

[woodbuck27]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018CB.php

2018 NFL Draft Prospects: Cornerbacks Ranking

[woodbuck27]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018S.php

2018 NFL Draft Prospects: Safeties Ranking

[woodbuck27]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018WR.php

018 NFL Draft Prospects: Wide Receivers

[woodbuck27]

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018ILB.php

2018 NFL Draft Prospects: Inside Linebackers

** Cross Check Source RE:i

Malik Jefferson , ILB, Texas ... Height: 6-2. Weight: 236. Arm: 32.

40 Time: 4.52. ... Projected Round (2018): 2-3.

" ...3/25/18: Jefferson totaled 110 tackles with 10 tackles for a loss and four sacks in 2017. He played hard for Texas and turned in his best season. Jefferson isn't great in pass coverage or at taking on blocks in the run game. He is at his best being a pursuit linebacker when running free and using his instincts to make plays.

Sources have said that teams are hearing that Jefferson doesn't have a deep love for football. That was illustrated in him not producing up to his great skill set early on in his collegiate career and in offseason training according to league contacts. Jefferson supposedly was unhappy with his role in the former staff's scheme, but that makes team sources question if Jefferson's work ethic will change when he has coaches going and coming as a pro. ..."

NOTE:


ILB Malik Jefferson TEXAS ...WHY !? He looks like a late 4th or Early 5th Round Pick....There are many better Options as ILB Prospects or about 10 of them ! He's been falling like 'a Rock in water'. I've got him as the 148th Ranked Prospect NFL.Com with a GRADE = 5.57.

I see it this way and ILB:

At ILB go with one of these: Josey Jewell, Iowa, 6'1" and 234 lbs and GRADE = 5.57 OR Tegray Scales

Indiana, 6'0" and 230 lbs GRADE = 5.63 and NFL.COM Ranked 101 Prospect. OR Micah Kiser, Virginia, 6'0"and

238 lbs. GRADE = 5.59. Others that I'd Rank Higher and at the ILB Position are: Jerome Baker Ohio State. 6'1" and 229 lbs

OR Mike McCray,,Michigan, 6'1" and 243 lbs OR Christian Sam, Arizona State, 6'1" and 244 lbs



DRAFTTEK:

** https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-ILBs-2018-Draft.asp

[woodbuck27]

Safety Justin Reid, STANFORD - GRADE 6.06 VS Ronnie Harrison, ALABAMA - GRADE 5.83 (Grades NFL.COM.)

S -Justin Reid.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/justin-reid?id=32462018-0002-5601-9880-2ac673bf0eed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKBDHocR4QY


S - Ronnie Harrison.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ronnie-harrison?id=32462018-0002-5601-0357-bc5627dbf3fb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0htsl6R34RI

[woodbuck27]

NFL.COM WR DRAFT GRADES (of those remaining for our POLL and Round @ PICK NO. 45:

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/WR?college=allColleges&page=1&status=ALL

1. Antonio Callaway, FLORIDA - GRADE 5.88

2. Deon Cain, CLEMSON - GRADE 5.86

3. D.J. Chark, LSU - GRADE 5.84

4. Christian Kirk, TEXAS A&M - GRADE 5.83

5, Anthony Miller, MEMPHIS - GRADE 5.79



6. Michael Gallup, COLORADO ST. - GRADE 5.72

7. Dante Pettis, WASHINGTON - GRADE 5.71

8. Daesean Hamilton, PENN ST. - GRADE 5.70

9. Equanimeous St. Brown, NOTRE DAME - GRADE 5.69

10. Keke Coutee, TEXAS TECH - GRADE 5.62

[woodbuck27]

I went 'other' and Safety Justin Reid, STANFORD is my Pick. Why?

This is the NFL.Com's BPA and he's solid. He's excellent value at Pick NO. 45 Overall as he's NFL.Com's 21'st Ranked Prospect.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/video/justin-reid-2018-nfl-scouting-combine-workout/nf5s25d8v3e8183s0ztrdlurf

Safety - Justin Reid, STANFORD, GRADE 6.06

HEIGHT = 6' 0" ... WEIGHT = 207 lbs

ARMS = 31 5/8” ... HANDS = 9 3/4”

Justin Reid 2018 NFL Scouting Combine workout

The 2018 NFL Scouting Combine workout from Stanford safety Justin Reid.

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl/video/justin-reid-2018-nfl-scouting-combine-workout/nf5s25d8v3e8183s0ztrdlurf

David Shaw Head Coach of Stanford Remarks on Safety Justin Reid's tremendous Work Ethic and love for football: 'This Guy is going to wear out a DB Coach.'

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/justin-reid?id=32462018-0002-5601-9880-2ac673bf0eed

His brother is former LSU All-American and NFL Pro Bowl safety Eric Reid, He followed his brother’s example by garnering second-team Associated Press All-American accolades in 2017, while also receiving a first-team all-conference nod, by starting 11 of 14 games, compiling 99 tackles, 6.5 for loss, five interceptions, and six pass breakups. Reid's father, Eric Sr., ran track at LSU and his brother, Ryan, plays soccer at Coastal Carolina.

Overview

" Safety Justin Reid is what teams are looking for at the safety position in 2018. He's a plus size/speed prospect who has the athletic ability to help with man coverage and the instincts and ball skills for ball-hawking duties on the back end.

Reid can get himself into some trouble when he's overly aggressive, but his positive plays far outweigh the negative. He has the talent to become an early starter and a good one. Reid's instincts and play traits should make him a safe selection with Pro Bowl potential down the road."

Combine Results:

40 Yard Dash = 4.4 SECONDS He's Quick !

Bench Press = 16 REPS

Vertical Jump = 36.5 INCHES

Broad Jump = 128.0 INCHES

3 Cone Drill = 6.65 SECONDS

20 Yd Shuttle = 4.15

[woodbuck27]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/ronnie-harrison?id=32462018-0002-5601-0357-bc5627dbf3fb

Safety Ronnie Harrison.

" Harrison was a second-team All-SEC pick in 2017, tying for the team lead with 74 tackles, making 4.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage including 2.5 sacks, intercepting three passes, and breaking up four others."


Overview

" Combination safety with all the size and athletic traits you could hope for in a safety. Harrison is a fluid athlete with few athletic limitations and has the ability to fit into a variety of defensive schemes.

His penchant for flying in shoulder first will need to get cleaned or risk giving up missed tackles and big plays.

Harrison's physical approach and urgency in run support gives him a chance to start early."

[woodbuck27]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/carlton-davis?id=32462018-0002-5601-166f-0acf24eff361

CB Carlton Davis, Auburn - 6' 1" 206 lbs. GRADE 6.00

Combine Results:

40 Yard Dash + 4.53 SECONDS ... Bench Press= 16 REPS

Vertical Jump= 34.0 INCHES ... Broad Jump= 124.0 INCHES

Overview

" ... Davis' combination of height, weight, length and ball skills make him a nuisance that college wide receivers could do without on Saturdays. Davis has some struggles mirroring routes in space and is best as a full-time press corner who is able to use his length and strength to take wideouts out of their game. Davis plays with confidence and some edge and was able to show and prove against NFL-caliber talent over the last three years. In the right scheme, he could become a high-impact starter. ..."

Sources Tell Us

"His own quarterback (Jarrett Stidham) stayed away from throwing to his side in practice from what a scout told me. I need to find out if he can catch it because he just knocks them down and doesn't take them away. You've got to take them away." -- NFC defensive back coach

[HarveyWallbangers]

Wasn't Lorenzo Carter taken?

[woodbuck27]

WR Deon Cain, CLEMSON ... 6' 2" - 202 lbs.GRADE = 5.86



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YJUB2_7jJ4


https://www.nfl.com/prospects/deon-cain?id=32462018-0002-5601-476e-1c21b13a4045

Combine Results

40 Yard Dash = 4.43 SECONDS ... Bench Press = 11 REPS

Vertical Jump = 33.5 INCHES ... Broad Jump = 115.0 INCHES

3 Cone Drill + 6.71 SECONDS ... 20 Yd Shuttle = 4.37 SECONDS ... 60 Yd Shuttle 11.78

[woodbuck27]

Wasn't Lorenzo Carter taken?

Yes.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I chose Carlton Davis out of this group (thought about Hayden Hurst), but I wouldn't be surprised if it's somebody not from this group. Austin Corbett, Branden Smith, Michael Gallup, Brian O'Neill (only because they drafted a similar project in Spriggs, so they like the type), Anthony Averett, Duke Dawson, Nick Nelson, Justin Reid could be some surprise options.

[woodbuck27]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/d.j.-chark?id=32462018-0002-5599-1512-af2ae612016b

WR - D.J. CHARK, LSU ... 6' 3" - 199 lbs. GRADE = 5.84

Combine Results

40 Yard Dash = 4.34 SECONDS ... Bench Press = 16 REPS

Vertical Jump = 40.0 INCHES ... Broad Jump = 129.0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8oyVMpT7pg

Overview

" ...Tall and fast, Chark is a linear route-runner who may need a limited route tree, but who has the potential to back safeties off the line of scrimmage. Chark will be coveted by play-action passing attacks looking to win with chunk plays down the field, but he'll need to improve his ball skills to take advantage of all that speed. Chark could struggle early on against press coverage, but he has the ability to become a solid WR2. ..."

[woodbuck27]

I chose Carlton Davis out of this group (thought about Hayden Hurst), but I wouldn't be surprised if it's somebody not from this group. Austin Corbett, Branden Smith, Michael Gallup, Brian O'Neill (only because they drafted a similar project in Spriggs, so they like the type), Anthony Averett, Duke Dawson, Nick Nelson, Justin Reid could be some surprise options.

The Pick is easy.

The second Group of Top 20 Prospects RE: GRADE.

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects/allPositions?college=allColleges&page=2&status=ALL

My Guy is Safety (Jr.) Justin Reid, STANFORD because he's the best talent available now with NFL.COM's 21'st Overall Grade of 6.06.

His Measurables are outstanding.

He's fast 4.4 Sec./40 Yards and solid Bs the Run and Pass and can go sideline to sideline. He tackles well.

He has a terrific attitude and is a Team Player; a hard worker and dedicated to and loves football. His Head Coach is very entusiastic about his future in the NFL. He has realistic PRO BOWL Potential.

" He followed his brother’s (Eric Reid's) example by garnering second-team Associated Press All-American accolades in 2017, while also receiving a first-team all-conference nod, by starting 11 of 14 games, compiling 99 tackles, 6.5 for loss, five interceptions, and six pass breakups. He comes from athletic Genes. Reid's father, Eric Sr., ran track at LSU and his brother, Ryan, plays soccer at Coastal Carolina."

Overview

Reid is what teams are looking for at the safety position in 2018. He's a plus size/speed prospect who has the athletic ability to help with man coverage and the instincts and ball skills for ball-hawking duties on the back end.

Reid can get himself into some trouble when he's overly aggressive, but his positive plays far outweigh the negative. He has the talent to become an early starter and a good one. Reid's instincts and play traits should make him a safe selection with Pro Bowl potential down the road.

Sources Tell Us

"There aren't too many issues in his game. If he tests well he could sneak into the back half of the first is my guess. He's better in coverage than his brother." -- NFC General Manager

That's all good enough for me. :pack:

In this POLL he should definitely be there and he's the BPA overall and we need at DB (Safety).

Safety Justin Reid, STANFORD is bright and a determined hard worker and extremely athletic. He'll one day Captain an NFL\ Teams Defense.

[Joemailman]

Who's gonna break the tie?

[pbmax]

Who's gonna break the tie?

If its tied its Guiness' call tomorrow morning.

[woodbuck27]

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/carlton-davis?id=32462018-0002-5601-166f-0acf24eff361

CB Carlton Davis, Auburn - 6' 1" 206 lbs. GRADE 6.00 ... Arms =

Combine Results:

40 Yard Dash + 4.53 SECONDS ... Bench Press= 16 REPS

Vertical Jump= 34.0 INCHES ... Broad Jump= 124.0 INCHES

Overview

" ... Davis' combination of height, weight, length and ball skills make him a nuisance that college wide receivers could do without on Saturdays. Davis has some struggles mirroring routes in space and is best as a full-time press corner who is able to use his length and strength to take wideouts out of their game. Davis plays with confidence and some edge and was able to show and prove against NFL-caliber talent over the last three years. In the right scheme, he could become a high-impact starter. ..."

Sources Tell Us

"His own quarterback (Jarrett Stidham) stayed away from throwing to his side in practice from what a scout told me. I need to find out if he can catch it because he just knocks them down and doesn't take them away. You've got to take them away." -- NFC defensive back coach

** This Guy Tied in our POOL with CB Carlton Davis Auburn, 6' 1" - 206 lbs:

** https://www.nfl.com/prospects/donte-jackson?id=32462018-0002-5600-7078-3baa1a8b2e92

CB Donte Jackson, LSU - 5'10" - 178 lbs

His GRADE @ NFL.COM is 5.83 ... ARMS = 29 1/2” and HANDS = 8 3/4”

Overview

Cover corner with below-average size, but elite speed and athleticism.

Jackson lacks instincts but has rare closing burst so there will be feast-or-famine games in his future.

Due to his slight frame, teams are sure to test his resolve and durability in run support. Jackson's athletic traits should ensure that he makes plenty of plays on the ball, but he'll need to develop better route recognition and focus in order to reach his full potential. Jackson should find early work as a third cornerback.

See Strengtha and Weaknesses in LINK above.

[woodbuck27]

I chose Carlton Davis out of this group (thought about Hayden Hurst), but I wouldn't be surprised if it's somebody not from this group. Austin Corbett, Branden Smith, Michael Gallup, Brian O'Neill (only because they drafted a similar project in Spriggs, so they like the type), Anthony Averett, Duke Dawson, Nick Nelson, Justin Reid could be some surprise options.

The ' Canuck ' Guiness will decide 'a Tie Break' with your Guy Harvey

In final analysis and this POLL;

At the beginning of this day, Sun. 22 April 2018 the POLL pick is: ?

[Deputy Nutz]

Woody we can all go to NFL.com. It's not a perfect science.

[Guiness]

Well isn't this a pickle! 3 way tie between Christian Kirk, Carlton Davis and Donte Jackson with 4 votes each. This may as well be a 4 way tie, because my choice is Hayden Hurst, who has 3 votes before I chime in!

Kirk is out - at 5'10" 200lbs he's too similar in body type to Cobb ad Montgomery. Looking at the CBs, I can hear the calls of 'ankle biter' for Jackson, who's also 5'10" and has a track backround.

In a decision between Davis and Hurst, look at last year's problems in the secondary. House and Twill are one year stop gaps, the decision is a big solid corner, Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn.

[pbmax]

Picking a draft narrative here is hard. DB in second round? Might be Nick Collins.

Picking a cornerback in the 2nd round? Hasn't been done since Fred Vinson.

[woodbuck27]

Woody we can all go to NFL.com. It's not a perfect science.

You need to be informed Deputy Nutz (because I truly care about you) SO...put on your 'Big Boy' pants :roll::

I'm correct often Deputy. That's the bottom line and intelligence and really getting to understanding the NFL not just as a Packer fan (and I've been there for 6 Decades) .

Remember way back in 2006 when you went 'all Redneck' :-) YOUR HILARIOUS; and slammed Packerrats members for 'the shame they should feel' allowing me to become the PRO Pickem' Champion in our inaugural Pro Pickem' Competition? Holy shit what utter nonsense.

Well Deputy I've somehow managed with my football IQ to win another Nine Pro Pickem Trophies and two more Championships. In fact last Season no NFL.Com expert did better in assessing the NFL Match ups with the success than I managed to do... Season after Season they very seldom do.

Last year of all the so deemed NFL Experts, only two managed to select more Match up winners than I was fortunate to Pick.

I'll go so far to inform you (and with all respect) there are two members of this Forum that year after year prove they are outstanding analysts here at Packerrats and clearly amongst the very best among a solid group of NFL Fan site Hobby Experts. Those two members are esoxx and woodbuck27.

Every year I say to myself esoxx is the Packer fan that's easily the most intelligent and the NFL and the man to beat. Most every year it's esoxx and I and another non USA Citizen that are the CREAM and that's the Packer Fan from Europe mmmdk. Mister Deputy Nutz I'm going to break you bubble of ignorance :idea:...you don't need to live in the USA to understand the Green Bay Packers and the NFL.

How many solid Packerrats has that stupidity driven out of here!?

Not everyone has been as strong as I am and defending a position.

So suck it up Packer fan. So you fella's keep on blowing your horn and trying to back yourselves up, and all I'll see .... hahaha ... is this:

https://mucommconnect.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/blowing-steam2.jpg

Deputy...Have a nice day !

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Picking a draft narrative here is hard. DB in second round? Might be Nick Collins.

Picking a cornerback in the 2nd round? Hasn't been done since Fred Vinson.

Pretty sure the sloth 'Rollins in the Deep' succeeded Vinson as a Packer 2nd rounder corner.

[woodbuck27]

Picking a draft narrative here is hard. DB in second round? Might be Nick Collins.

Picking a cornerback in the 2nd round? Hasn't been done since Fred Vinson.

I so much hope that the Packers can sell at NO.14 and the obvious way to get that done is to be all in and QB Prospect Lamar Jackson.

Trade down to NO or Jacksonville or even NE and get that First and another Second Round Pick.

Even trading down to a Team that might jump on a QB like The LA Chargers gets the Packers another Third Round Pick.

[Fritz]

Picking a draft narrative here is hard. DB in second round? Might be Nick Collins.

Picking a cornerback in the 2nd round? Hasn't been done since Fred Vinson.

AKA "Ahman Green"!!

Maybe the best Packer trade ever.

[woodbuck27]

AKA "Ahman Green"!!

Maybe the best Packer trade ever.

+ 1 ....'a real beauty' in his Packer Prime.

http://madcitysportszone.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/AP_061217024134-300x179.jpg

[Guiness]

Packers have brought a couple of first/second day CBs in for visits, including Donte Jackson. Mike Hughes was the other one.

[Deputy Nutz]

Donte Jackson has speed, but his size is just a killer for me. 175 pounds? He will be liability in everything, he will get bodied out of good coverage all day long in the NFL, unless he can put on 15-20 pounds.