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pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:31 PM
J'MON MOORE, WR, MISSOURI

HT: 6-2 1/2 WT: 207, 40-yard dash: 4.49

LOWDOWN: Moore had 127 catches and 18 touchdowns over the past two seasons for Missouri. Dropped passes were an issue.... Moore ran 4.6 at the combine and 4.49 at his pro day.

Combine Invite: Yes
Height: 6025
Weight: 207

PD3X AKA "Official"
40 Yard Dash (ET): 4.60
40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.56
20 Yard (ET): 2.72
20 Yard (HH): 2.56
10 Yard (ET): 1.64
10 Yard (HH): 1.62

225 Lb. Bench Reps: 21
Vertical Jump: 38
Broad Jump: 10'00"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.04
3-Cone Drill:

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:32 PM
Pro Day

Dates: 03/22/18
Hand: 09 3/8
Arm: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 78 5/8

Height: 6025
Weight: 207

40 Yard Dash (HH): 4.49
20 Yard (HH): 2.60
10 Yard (HH): 1.64

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:32 PM
Analysis

STRENGTHS
Looks the part of an NFL receiver with broad shoulders, long arms and a tapered, athletic frame. Good initial quickness and agility to escape press coverage, utilizing his long arms and hand strength to rip away from the jam. Coordinated route-runner with the straight-line speed to attack deep as well as the explosive cutting ability to create separation on lateral routes. Drives hard upfield and shows very good body control and balance to sink his hips, zipping back toward his quarterback on quick-outs, doing a nice job of keeping his broad frame between the passer and defender. Strong hands to extend and pluck outside of his frame, flashing the ability to make difficult grabs with defenders in close proximity. Improved concentration to make contested grabs in 2017 after struggling, at times, with drops in the past... Very good stop-start quickness and strength to create yardage after the catch with the speed to pull away for the long score (Georgia-2016). Alert, competitive blocker who works to sustain and looks to help out teammates. -- Rob Rang 12/29/2017

WEAKNESSES
Too many "easy" drops on tape, usually because he is looking to make defenders miss before securing the ball... Has struggled, at times, with a lack of selective amnesia, allowing one drop to escalate into others, though he did show improved focus in 2017... Some wasted motion in his routes, relying on flashy shake-and-bake moves which help him get free but impact the timing with his quarterback. Almost too competitive for his own good as a downfield blocker, extending his arms and getting sloppy with his hand placement, raising the possibility of penalties for holding and illegal blocks. - Rob Rang 12/29/2017

COMPARES TO: Marvin Jones, Lions - The 6-2, 199 pound Jones was underrated coming out of Cal back in 2012, lasting until the 5th round in part because teams were worried about the speedster's transition from the spread. Like Jones, Moore production was inflated by Missouri's offense but his size and athleticism are clearly NFL caliber, projecting as a deep threat early in his career with the potential to develop into a quality starter.

IN OUR VIEW: Moore isn't often mentioned as a candidate to be the first senior receiver drafted but few possess a more intriguing combination of size, speed and production against top competition. He does run a bit hold and cold in the most important phase of being a receiver - simply catching the ball - but his raw athleticism and improved focus in 2017 suggest that Moore's best football could be ahead of him, warranting Day Two consideration.

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqFQrPioPO0

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEZXBoUB2w

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y79ZIWSSZI

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxLY25tsKg

pbmax
04-28-2018, 02:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMvI5TkOgA4

George Cumby
04-28-2018, 02:40 PM
Drafted as the deep/breakaway threat?

mraynrand
04-28-2018, 02:55 PM
He looks a lot like Adams. Put him in when you're running the ball. He's like Hines Ward - likes to shove people around.

mraynrand
04-28-2018, 02:56 PM
I like him

Anti-Polar Bear
04-28-2018, 03:15 PM
A sloth. Pack have more than enough sloth receivers on the roster already.

I dislike this pick.

ND72
04-28-2018, 03:53 PM
He looks a lot like Adams. Put him in when you're running the ball. He's like Hines Ward - likes to shove people around.

I said he reminds me of Adams the first time I saw his film as well.

pbmax
04-28-2018, 03:58 PM
1.62 first 10 yards isn't too slothful. Matthews was somewhere between 1.49 and 1.61

pbmax
04-28-2018, 04:02 PM
GBPG: https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/04/25/2018-nfl-draft-green-bay-packers-picks/552404002/

HT: 6-2 1/2 WT: 207, 40-yard dash: 4.49

LOWDOWN: Moore had 127 catches and 18 touchdowns over the past two seasons for Missouri. Dropped passes were an issue.... Moore ran 4.6 at the combine and 4.49 at his pro day.

HarveyWallbangers
04-28-2018, 04:54 PM
Kid isn't slow for his size. Watch the tape. This isn't Mike Williams. This kid is athletic. He had the second best shuttle at the combine and the best 3-cone among WR. On a 6'3" 207 frame. He also had a very good 38" vertical and a solid 10" broad jump. To put his athleticism in perspective, here are his measurables compared to Courtland Sutton (another big receiver who tested very well at the combine):

Moore = 6'3" 207, 4.6 40 (4.48 at Pro Day), 4.04 shuttle, 6.56 3-cone, 38" vertical, 10' broad jump
Sutton = 6'3" 218, 4.54 40, 4.11 shuttle, 6.57 3-cone, 35 1/2" vertical, 10' 4" broad jump

I think two things are clear with the current scouting department, the Packers like to draft high character (team captains, smart) players and players who test well.

Jaire Alexander tested as one of the top 2 overall athletes among CBs. Only Avonte Maddox tested better.
Josh Jackson, despite a pedestrian 40, was solidly near the top in overall athleticism.
Oren Burks tested as the best or second best overall athlete among LBs.
J'Mon Mooe tested as one of the top 3 overall athletes among WRs. Only D.J. Moore and Dylan Cantrell tested better.
MVS ran a 4.37 40 at 6'4".

esoxx
04-28-2018, 07:23 PM
Love this pick. I watched at least 5 Missouri games this year and he always stood out.

woodbuck27
04-29-2018, 01:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqFQrPioPO0

He needs to strengthen and get on his routes at the TOP.

woodbuck27
04-29-2018, 01:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEZXBoUB2w

I like the way he competes for position and the ball.

Brandon494
04-29-2018, 07:31 AM
Sleeper pick if he can fixes his dropped passes. Don’t let the 40 time fool you, the kid can make big plays.

pbmax
04-29-2018, 10:13 AM
h/t to Brandon

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Db4x8wkW0AMHVUU?format=jpg

pbmax
04-30-2018, 11:13 AM
GBPG:

LOWDOWN: Big, physical receiver who was ultra-productive in final two college seasons. Exceeded 60 catches and 1,000 yards as junior and senior, combining for 18 touchdown receptions in the two seasons. Averaged more than 16 yards per catch each year. Benched 21 reps at combine. Followed a disappointing 4.60 40 at the combine with 4.49 at his pro day. Impressive jumping ability, his 38-inch vertical leap ranked fourth among receivers at the combine. Arms are 32 7/8 inches, hands 9 3/8 inches. I think he plays closer to what he ran at his pro day. “He plays fast,” college scouting director Jon-Eric Sullivan said. “I think we had him at 4.49 at his pro day. When you watch him come off the ball, he can close space, close the cushion. He’s got a really natural, pretty gait. We were not concerned with his play speed at all, and when he ran that 4.49 at his pro day that kind of solidified what we saw on film.” Too often hunted the big play in college, leading to issues with drops. Dropped 12 passes as a junior. Temporarily lost his starting job that season because of drops. Quickly regained job, and drops were not an issue in his senior season. “I have to learn how to humble my eyes,” Moore said. “That’s how I’ll say it. I have to learn how to humble them. Because a lot of the problems I had was, I dropped easy balls. Which you’re not supposed to drop. It’s me trying to do something with the ball before I even have it in my hands, or me trying to figure out where the ball is coming before I can get it all the way in. it’s just something I’ve had to work on, something I’ve developed and something I work on every time I go out and work on my craft. So that’s a small hiccup that I’m over.” - Ryan Wood

woodbuck27
04-30-2018, 02:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBW8qh19vgc

This Guy has potential and he's competitive tough.

The Packers need to develop 'the Guy' to take the heat off D.Adams or this will be a tough Season.

The Packers are another couple of Seasons away anyway; and hopefully it will be just a decade between Super Bowl Wins.

The defensive backfield has to recover some strength and obviously grow.

The Packers have invested over the TOP too much on the Secondary to see it as it is. The BRASS went 'all in' again and CB in this Draft.

If OLB (ILB) Oren Burks is 'the REAL DEAL', we'll have addressed SLOW and LBer.

We need to see some kind of upgrade and Pass Rush. The Defense is too slow up front. Too SLOW in the MIDDLE and just awful (arguably the WORST in the NFL) on the back end. Solid QB's have easy picking against our weak secondary.

Did Goot get 'anything REAL' and upgrading the RHS of the OL?

The two TOP priorities were:

A.) PASS Rush to take the heat off a pathetic Defensive Backfield. Did Goot respond to this in his first Draftt?

NO !

B.) Did Goot address the RHS of the Packer Offensive Line?

He's throwing a lot of mud against that wall and the Packer WR Stable.

C.) Has Goot addressed a weak WR Stable?

Aside from 'a wish and a prayer approach'....NO !

What do we really have at a former TOP shelf strength and WR?

The mud at that position has been thrown on the wall. Will any of it stick? Coaching !?

Are we falling behind the Vikings and Lions >>> Aaron Rodgers !?

Before we can compete with the NFL Elite Teams we have to win back the NFCN Title.

There are a lot of question marks ! Too many ? marks !