Action Items, Going Forward and Next Steps with Mike Pettine

[pbmax]

Which Packer veteran starter will benefit from Mike Pettine's system this year?

Vote (its public) and explain why in your post. Please continue to use words as fun as "expeditiously", which woodbuck landed earlier and has tickled me to death for some reason.

This is not just who makes the jump from year 1 to 2, or 2 to 3, but who benefits from the hybrid 3-4 system. There have been a few claims made about what it will look like:

1. 3 D lineman will occupy blockers (at least 2 are two gapping) while 4 LB types will be counted on the flow to the ball and make the play. wist will need one less pain killer after he reads this.

2. Corners wil be matched up by receiver, not by side of the ball. So King gets the LeBron guy, Jaire gets Stefan Diggs, etc.

3. Outside corners will be counted on to play press man. Might not have ability to choose how to play it like Al Harris (genuflect) and Charles Woodson (genuflect again) used to. Will be occasionally responsible for shorter zone. Doesn't sound like much Cover 3 where CBs would drop deeper.

4. Single high safety (this one is mine). I seem to remember a LOT of single high safety from Rex and the Ravens and the Jets. Will it be Dix and how will he fare? Will he be 25 yards deep again?

[Bretsky]

was this supposed to be a poll ?

[Smidgeon]

Is this scheme going to hurt Clark?

[mraynrand]

Which Packer veteran starter will benefit from Mike Pettine's system this year?

Vote (its public) and explain why in your post. Please continue to use words as fun as "expeditiously", which woodbuck landed earlier and has tickled me to death for some reason.

This is not just who makes the jump from year 1 to 2, or 2 to 3, but who benefits from the hybrid 3-4 system. There have been a few claims made about what it will look like:

1. 3 D lineman will occupy blockers (at least 2 are two gapping) while 4 LB types will be counted on the flow to the ball and make the play. wist will need one less pain killer after he reads this.

2. Corners wil be matched up by receiver, not by side of the ball. So King gets the LeBron guy, Jaire gets Stefan Diggs, etc.

3. Outside corners will be counted on to play press man. Might not have ability to choose how to play it like Al Harris (genuflect) and Charles Woodson (genuflect again) used to. Will be occasionally responsible for shorter zone. Doesn't sound like much Cover 3 where CBs would drop deeper.

4. Single high safety (this one is mine). I seem to remember a LOT of single high safety from Rex and the Ravens and the Jets. Will it be Dix and how will he fare? Will he be 25 yards deep again?

Which TE will Poutine injure for life? Gronk? Rudolph?

[pbmax]

was this supposed to be a poll ?

It took a while to settle on correct subset of former starters for this defense. Whittling it down from 108 in the past year took some time.

I decided on the obvious starters plus selected depth that had been here at least 3 seasons.

So King yes, Donatello Brown no. Brice yes, Marwin Evans no.

[pbmax]

Is this scheme going to hurt Clark?

I don't think so. Haloti Ngata found a home and he was a 1 technique who absorbed double teams.

[woodbuck27]

Is this scheme going to hurt Clark?

Clark was one of the Packers on'D' that stepped up in his second Year..hopefully he buys into the new DC's schemes and grows some more. In my view of the Packer 'D' and last Season, it was obvious that the Packers DL was the best by far position improvement on the Packer 'D'.

Why MM FIRED his DL Coach last Season was a mystery to me.

Actually, I don't get, letting go of Mike Trgovac – Defensive Line AND Tim McGarigle – Defensive Quality Control Go !?

[pbmax]

Perry is not a million moves kinda pass rusher. He powers then plays off it almost every time. Occasionally tries to get an edge. This is the basic Capers formula for his OLBs and Perry did not vary it as much as Matthews did.

In the hybrid scheme, I can see him getting different matchups and angles. I think he will benefit and actually grow from it. If he stays healthy.

[woodbuck27]

I voted for better and DC Mike Pettine's system from Ha Ha Clinton Dix and the 2018 Season.

:pack: GO PACK GO ! :pack:

[pbmax]

I voted for better and DC Mike Pettine's system from Ha Ha Clinton Dix and the 2018 Season.

:pack: GO PACK GO ! :pack:

OK woody, but why? Does better talent make Dix job easier and closer to the LOS?

If yes, does Pettine being here alter his play or is it the talent available to the defense in 2018 that raises his play?

[Maxie the Taxi]

A couple of articles on Pettine's style of defense for those into X's and O's:

http://www.packtothefuture.com/articles/featured-stories/xs-os-mike-pettine-defense-front-7/

http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/01/19/coachs-look-green-bay-packers-new-defensive-coordinator-mike-pettine/

[texaspackerbacker]

It takes a village. All of the pass rushers that make the team and all of the Corners except for a couple or three who won't make the cut will benefit.

I was a big fan of Capers, but I'm thinking that Pettine will fine tune things without straying too far from what Capers did. Capers' weakness IMO was in adjusting when teams figured out his schemes. Hopefully Pettine will be a big improvement in that area.

[mission]

Assuming Clay stays healthy, he'll have his best statistical season. Easy.

[Zool]

Ha Ha will be the winner. Simplify the D, have Ha Ha roam deep, and put Jones strong. Press man coverage to eliminate the “who had that zone?”plays.

[Pugger]

A couple of articles on Pettine's style of defense for those into X's and O's:

http://www.packtothefuture.com/articles/featured-stories/xs-os-mike-pettine-defense-front-7/

http://lastwordonprofootball.com/2018/01/19/coachs-look-green-bay-packers-new-defensive-coordinator-mike-pettine/

Maxie, is that Donna Reed in your avatar?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Maxie, is that Donna Reed in your avatar?

No. It's French actress Madeleine LeBeau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Lebeau). You might remember her from Casablanca. She played the barfly, Yvonne, that Rick threw out of his café early in the movie. Very beautiful and classy lady. (I'm a huge fan of movies of that era.)

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/05/17/arts/17lebeau-obit/17lebeau-obit-master768.jpg

[hoosier]

No. It's French actress Madeleine LeBeau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Lebeau). You might remember her from Casablanca. She played the barfly, Yvonne, that Rick threw out of his café early in the movie. Very beautiful and classy lady. (I'm a huge fan of movies of that era.)

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/05/17/arts/17lebeau-obit/17lebeau-obit-master768.jpg

Any relation to Dick?

[Deputy Nutz]

Assuming Clay stays healthy, he'll have his best statistical season. Easy.


Isn't that what Packer fans says every year?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Any relation to Dick?

Don't know...but a piece of interesting trivia. LeBeau actually lived the life of the Ingrid Bergman character in the film. She and her husband barely escaped Paris ahead of the Nazi invaders by means of obtaining a transit visa and traveling to the US via Lisbon. So, when she shouted "Vive la France" as the French loyalists sang their anthem, her tears and emotion were heartfelt.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Ha Ha will be the winner. Simplify the D, have Ha Ha roam deep, and put Jones strong. Press man coverage to eliminate the “who had that zone?”plays.

Capers tried that with Dix. Problem was, Dix is a sloth and he lacks cat quickness. Due to his lack of quickness and speed, Dix is often seen gambling on where to attack, which plenty of QBs have exploited.

Dix should be playing the strong instead of the free.

[gbgary]

Any relation to Dick?

or....https://i.pinimg.com/originals/14/63/2e/14632ee00e174293aad1445064d5792d.jpg


Don't know...but a piece of interesting trivia. LeBeau actually lived the life of the Ingrid Bergman character in the film. She and her husband barely escaped Paris ahead of the Nazi invaders by means of obtaining a transit visa and traveling to the US via Lisbon. So, when she shouted "Vive la France" as the French loyalists sang their anthem, her tears and emotion were heartfelt.

cool story.

[Pugger]

No. It's French actress Madeleine LeBeau (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Lebeau). You might remember her from Casablanca. She played the barfly, Yvonne, that Rick threw out of his café early in the movie. Very beautiful and classy lady. (I'm a huge fan of movies of that era.)

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/05/17/arts/17lebeau-obit/17lebeau-obit-master768.jpg

Ah yes, Casablanca is one of my favorites too. I am a big fan of movies from that era too! :-)

[The Shadow]

Maxie, is that Donna Reed in your avatar?

No, he's just happy to see you.