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pbmax
09-01-2018, 10:33 AM
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
The #Packers have been shopping WR/KR/PR Trevor Davis to teams around the league, according to a league source. No word if they've come close to dealing him.

It, of course, doesn't mean Davis will be traded or cut, but there might be enough value there that think they can get a decent draft pick and then keep all three rookie WRs.

red
09-01-2018, 10:37 AM
he adds almost nothing as a wr and he's not that great at returning to keep him over the younger wr's

i think former second round pick rollins gets cut today

ThunderDan
09-01-2018, 10:40 AM
he adds almost nothing as a wr and he's not that great at returning to keep him over the younger wr's

i think former second round pick rollins gets cut today

Not sure what Rollins adds to this team any more. Plenty of young promising CBs. He might stick as a hybrid S/CB.

red
09-01-2018, 10:41 AM
Not sure what Rollins adds to this team any more. Plenty of young promising CBs. He might stick as a hybrid S/CB.

he's bad at both those roles

ThunderDan
09-01-2018, 10:42 AM
he's bad at both those roles

Yup, but if he can play ST he becomes our next Bush.

red
09-01-2018, 10:43 AM
Yup, but if he can play ST he becomes our next Bush.

you just made me throw up in my mouth

pbmax
09-01-2018, 10:53 AM
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
TE Kevin Rader has been released. Could be a prospect for practice squad. He was an undrafted free agent.

Tom Silverstein@TomSilverstein
New from JSOnline and PackersNews: Packers roster cutdown: Chris Odom, Donatello Brown among early cuts https://ift.tt/2NCJzYa #Packers

Silverstein says Rader will not be on PS, but doesn't explain how he knows.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 10:54 AM
Jim Owczarski @JimOwczarski
The #Packers are trimming their roster - RB Bronson Hill and LB Marcus Porter have been released.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:01 AM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Packers have released Naashon Hughes. Former Texas player signed as an OLB but quickly was moved inside.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers have released CB Josh Hawkins, a source told The Athletic. Hawkins played a lot of snaps the last two seasons when injuries hit the cornerback position.

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
The Packers have waived WR DeAngelo Yancey, a source said. It was a crowded spot for the 2017 fifth-round pick. Got a lot of work in practice but the ball didn't go his way much in preseason games.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:08 AM
Quinten Rollins has a hamstring injury that might mean he cannot just be waived today. Might need to be stashed somewhere or given an injury settlement per Demovsky. Hammy versus KC.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:09 AM
Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky

Kyle Murphy, who came into camp as perhaps the top backup tackle, will not be ready for Week 1 because of his ankle injury, coach Mike McCarthy said. If it's longer term than that, his spot on the 53 might be in jeopardy.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:19 AM
Their special team returns will suffer if the Davis trade means they will cut him to keep the young WRs. No one on the roster has shown his ability back there.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:35 AM
Michael Cohen
#Packers have released CB Demetri Goodson and OL Adam Pankey, sources told The Athletic.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:40 AM
Zachary Jacobson @ZachAJacobson
#Packers have released RB Devante Mays.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:48 AM
Names in blue are Practice Squad eligible.

http://content.packersnews.com/packersnews/roster/builder.php

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:57 AM
Packer Report: https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Cutdown-Saturday-Road-to-53-begins-Raiders-not-Pack-land-Mack-121260717/

Outside linebacker: Kendall Donnerson, Chris Odom, James Hearns

Inside linebacker: Marcus Porter, Naashon Hughes, Greer Martini

pbmax
09-01-2018, 11:59 AM
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers have released FB Aaron Ripkowski, a source told The Athletic. Have to think that's a good sign for TE Robert Tonyan.

RIP to the Ripper, who is not PS eligible. Has to mean four TEs.

Appreciate the congrats on predicting four TEs. Credit should also go to posters who wanted Tonyan retained.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:02 PM
However, might just be temporary:

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
It's possible this is only a temporary departure for Ripkowski. There's a chance the #Packers bring him back after handling some injury situations in the coming days. In other words, putting players on IR after final cuts.

red
09-01-2018, 12:09 PM
Quinten Rollins has a hamstring injury that might mean he cannot just be waived today. Might need to be stashed somewhere or given an injury settlement per Demovsky. Hammy versus KC.

well thats convenient. he got "hurt" last year right before he should have been cut too

guy may not know how to play football, but he sure does know how to play the system

red
09-01-2018, 12:12 PM
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers have released FB Aaron Ripkowski, a source told The Athletic. Have to think that's a good sign for TE Robert Tonyan.

RIP to the Ripper, who is not PS eligible. Has to mean four TEs.

Appreciate the congrats on predicting four TEs. Credit should also go to posters who wanted Tonyan retained.

so no FB?

Anti-Polar Bear
09-01-2018, 12:25 PM
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers have released FB Aaron Ripkowski, a source told The Athletic. Have to think that's a good sign for TE Robert Tonyan.

RIP to the Ripper, who is not PS eligible. Has to mean four TEs.

Appreciate the congrats on predicting four TEs. Credit should also go to posters who wanted Tonyan retained.

Rip had been in McCarthy’s doghouse since the fumble in the lost city of Atlanta. I don’t think McCarthy called Rip’s number once last season for one of his infamous fullback dives.

Lewis can block so no big loss.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-01-2018, 12:28 PM
Their special team returns will suffer if the Davis trade means they will cut him to keep the young WRs. No one on the roster has shown his ability back there.

Bring “black” Janis, and make MVS the returner on both punts and kickoffs.. Problem solved.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:41 PM
Bring “black” Janis, and make MVS the returner on both punts and kickoffs.. Problem solved.

You just took ANOTHER roster spot with a guy who cannot play WR in the NFL.

And MVS is no Davis on returns. Makes the team worse in both respects. Only punt coverage is aided.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:44 PM
Packer Report from link above:

Defensive line: James Looney, a seventh-round pick with athletic upside, and undrafted Tyler Lancaster

Patler
09-01-2018, 12:44 PM
so no FB?


Joe Kerridge. Has he been cut? Rumor even last year was that he had surpassed Ripkowski in consistency as a blocker

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:45 PM
Packer Report from link above:

Defensive line: James Looney, a seventh-round pick with athletic upside, and undrafted Tyler Lancaster

plus

Ahmad Thomas. Thomas, the converted safety with the fantastic personal story, was a surprise release. Thomas has the speed and coverage skills necessary for today's game, but his release perhaps signals Oren Burks' shoulder injury shouldn't keep him out for long.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:46 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Zach Triner is out at long snapper. There's a bit of a surprise, too.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
#Packers are releasing ILB Ahmad Thomas. Made a nice run for a roster spot. Probably means Antonio Morrison is sticking.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 12:48 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Another surprise - right on par with Ripkowski - Biegel has been released. @JCTSports, I believe, was the first on that.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-01-2018, 12:49 PM
You just took ANOTHER roster spot with a guy who cannot play WR in the NFL.

And MVS is no Davis on returns. Makes the team worse in both respects. Only punt coverage is aided.

You must’ve missed the ‘Zona playoff game in the desert, you know the one that saw Randall fuck up in the clutch. Janis proved in that game that he ain’t a wanker- that he’s a legitimate NFL WR.

And Janis’ damn good gunner. Too fast and to strong.

Give MVS a chance. Speed is awesome.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-01-2018, 12:51 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Another surprise - right on par with Ripkowski - Biegel has been released. @JCTSports, I believe, was the first on that.

Bretsky wants to remind y’all again that Todd shoulda drafted Watt.

red
09-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Another surprise - right on par with Ripkowski - Biegel has been released. @JCTSports, I believe, was the first on that.

someone pull the gun out of bretskys mouth

4th round pick released after 1 season

don't worry vince, i'll keep the red raider name alive

Fritz
09-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Bretsky wants to remind y’all again that Todd shoulda drafted Watt.

Instead of Kevin King, you mean.

Pugger
09-01-2018, 01:42 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Another surprise - right on par with Ripkowski - Biegel has been released. @JCTSports, I believe, was the first on that.

When I noticed him playing late in the game Thursday night I knew that wasn't a good omen.

Fritz
09-01-2018, 01:44 PM
When I noticed him playing late in the game Thursday night I knew that wasn't a good omen.

Maybe practice squad fodder?

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 01:57 PM
So we cut biegel... how’s that pick King/Biegel over TJ watt working out...

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 01:58 PM
Michael Cohen
#Packers have released CB Demetri Goodson and OL Adam Pankey, sources told The Athletic.

I thought Pankey earned a spot.

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 02:02 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
Another surprise - right on par with Ripkowski - Biegel has been released. @JCTSports, I believe, was the first on that.

I didn't think either is a surprise. Rip has a narrow skill set, need more if you bother to keep a FB. Biegel was complete washout.

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 02:02 PM
So we cut biegel... how’s that pick King/Biegel over TJ watt working out...

Wasn't TJ a first rounder or somethin?

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 02:04 PM
4th round pick released after 1 season

4th rounder isn't THAT high of a draft pick. You only commit suicide over first or second rounders.

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 02:06 PM
Yup. We could’ve taken him. Dropped down and got king. I have no prob cutting Vince. Just pissed we had a shot at a watt

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 02:10 PM
Yup. We could’ve taken him. Dropped down and got king. I have no prob cutting Vince. Just pissed we had a shot at a watt

Wish I didn't learn this. So they figured Biegel was almost as good. Ouch. King looks decent, but that was a real miss.

gbgary
09-01-2018, 02:12 PM
a few mini-surprises so far...

red
09-01-2018, 02:16 PM
Wish I didn't learn this. So they figured Biegel was almost as good. Ouch. King looks decent, but that was a real miss.

yup, we had the 29th pick and watt was available

TT desided to trade down 4 spots, and the steelers took him at 30

and yes, OLB was a high priority for us at the time because we had no depth behind 2 often injured guys

king might be a nice player, but after this draft, we now have a surplus of decent CBs and really no decent OLBs

pbmax
09-01-2018, 02:24 PM
I still like the King pick after seeing him play. But, he has to remain healthy, which is a big question at this point.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 02:25 PM
Andy Herman @SconnieSports
23:

Odom
B. Hill
K. Rader
R. Smith
J. Hearns
D. Yancey
M. Porter
D. Brown
N. Hughes
J. Hawkins
D. Goodson
A. Pankey
G. Martini
K. Donnerson
D. Mays
Ripper
Looney
Lancaster
Triner
A. Thomas
Bouagnon
Biegel
M. Evans


Bold is PS eligible.

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 02:26 PM
Take a gander at our 2015 draft class..

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 02:26 PM
I count Thomas as the biggest surprise. But what do I know?

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 02:27 PM
Randall, Rollins, Ryan, Hundley, Ripkowski... and Ty (if he plays half a season I’ll be shocked).

pbmax
09-01-2018, 02:34 PM
Here is your late pass rush pickup:

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
The #Colts have informed DE John Simon that he’s been released, per @PerrettM. They shopped him for a few days.

red
09-01-2018, 02:34 PM
Randall, Rollins, Ryan, Hundley, Ripkowski... and Ty (if he plays half a season I’ll be shocked).

theres a real reason why TT was demoted

pbmax
09-01-2018, 02:36 PM
theres a real reason why TT was demoted

Randall yielded your backup QB. Ryan tore an ACL otherwise is a starter. Ripkowski played fine and was replaced by younger player.

Rutnstrut
09-01-2018, 02:59 PM
Randall yielded your backup QB. Ryan tore an ACL otherwise is a starter. Ripkowski played fine and was replaced by younger player.

Kizer is the back up on paper. But he hasn't proved shit. Red or I could be the back ups if all we had to do was be named backup, collect pay checks. AR is no Favre when it comes to durability, so there is a decent chance the backup will need to play.

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 03:02 PM
Randall yielded your backup QB. Ryan tore an ACL otherwise is a starter. Ripkowski played fine and was replaced by younger player.

So out of a draft that was intended to get a backup qb and a running back - we got that? Jake is a jag as is most of our class. No mid round hits and no consistent starters - much less a pro bowl caliber player. Jeez

Rutnstrut
09-01-2018, 03:05 PM
Crap I don't see the 2018 flop of flops J'Mon Moore on the cut list.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 03:15 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
And ditto for Kumerow.

Packer Report @PackerReport
James Crawford has made the team. Tim Boyle and Raven Greene, too.

Zool
09-01-2018, 03:48 PM
Yup. We could’ve taken him. Dropped down and got king. I have no prob cutting Vince. Just pissed we had a shot at a watt

Watt had a great first game last season, then was very average after. If King sucks and Watt is average, it was the wrong pick. If King and Watt are both average it’s a wash. Kinda hope King turns out better. Bigger need position for sure.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 04:06 PM
Crap I don't see the 2018 flop of flops J'Mon Moore on the cut list.

They have 8 WR on the roster based on what is known. Something will happen before Week 1 kicks off.

Also have 3 QBs and 4 TEs.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 04:08 PM
So no FB right now.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Cuts are in from #Packers and FB Joe Kerridge and DT Joey Mbu are among them. Means they're keeping just two RBs. I think they're going to target someone from the cuts.

https://www.packers.com/news/packers-keep-eight-receivers-here-s-the-53-man-roster

pbmax
09-01-2018, 04:11 PM
Mays, Murphy, Rollins on injured reserve.

QB (3): 12 Aaron Rodgers, 9 DeShone Kizer, 8 Tim Boyle

RB (2): 30 Jamaal Williams, 88 Ty Montgomery
Released: 22 Aaron Ripkowski, 40 Joe Kerridge, 46 LeShun Daniels, 34 Joel Bouagnon, 36 Bronson Hill
Reserve/suspended: 33 Aaron Jones
Injured reserve: 32 Devante Mays

WR (8): 17 Davante Adams, 18 Randall Cobb, 81 Geronimo Allison, 11 Trevor Davis, 82 J’Mon Moore, 83 Marquez Valdes-Scantling, 19 Equanimeous St. Brown, 16 Jake Kumerow
Released: 10 DeAngelo Yancey, 13 Adonis Jennings, 1 Kyle Lewis

TE (4): 80 Jimmy Graham, 84 Lance Kendricks, 89 Marcedes Lewis, 85 Robert Tonyan
Released: 86 Emanuel Byrd, 49 Kevin Rader, 48 Ryan Smith

OL (9): 69 David Bakhtiari, 75 Bryan Bulaga, 65 Lane Taylor, 63 Corey Linsley, 64 Justin McCray, 74 Byron Bell, 78 Jason Spriggs, 62 Lucas Patrick, 70 Alex Light
Released: 55 Dillon Day, 77 Adam Pankey, 79 Kofi Amichia, 60 Austin Davis
Injured reserve: 68 Kyle Murphy

DL (5): 76 Mike Daniels, 96 Muhammad Wilkerson, 97 Kenny Clark, 94 Dean Lowry, 90 Montravius Adams
Released: 99 James Looney, 73 Joey Mbu, 95 Tyler Lancaster, 67 Conor Sheehy

LB (8): 52 Clay Matthews, 53 Nick Perry, 50 Blake Martinez, 42 Oren Burks, 93 Reggie Gilbert, 51 Kyler Fackrell, 48 Antonio Morrison, 54 James Crawford
Released: 45 Vince Biegel, 91 Kendall Donnerson, 98 Chris Odom, 58 Greer Martini, 56 Ahmad Thomas, 49 James Hearns, 46 Naashon Hughes, 59 Marcus Porter

CB (6): 38 Tramon Williams, 20 Kevin King, 31 Davon House, 23 Jaire Alexander, 37 Josh Jackson, 26 Herb Waters
Released: 39 Demetri Goodson, 28 Josh Hawkins, 44 Donatello Brown
Injured reserve: 24 Quinten Rollins

S (5): 21 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, 29 Kentrell Brice, 27 Josh Jones, 35 Jermaine Whitehead, 36 Raven Greene
Released: 25 Marwin Evans

Spec (3): 2 Mason Crosby, 6 JK Scott, 43 Hunter Bradley
Released: 57 Zach Triner

smuggler
09-01-2018, 04:12 PM
No fullback. Hmm...

red
09-01-2018, 04:13 PM
Well fat mike does have more power now

Makes since that we kept 12 receiving targets and just 2 rbs

He never has liked to run the ball

red
09-01-2018, 04:14 PM
So Rollins does manage to stay in the nfl by getting injured for the second year in a row

Joemailman
09-01-2018, 04:20 PM
They have 8 WR on the roster based on what is known. Something will happen before Week 1 kicks off.

Also have 3 QBs and 4 TEs.

Word is Packers are trying to shop Trevor Davis.

red
09-01-2018, 04:31 PM
Word is Packers are trading to shop Trevor Davis.

And Randall cobb

Fritz
09-01-2018, 04:41 PM
Packer Report @PackerReport
And ditto for Kumerow.

Packer Report @PackerReport
James Crawford has made the team. Tim Boyle and Raven Greene, too.


Raven Greene? Raven Greene?? Who the hell is Raven Greene? Sounds like a woman I watched on Pornhub last week.

Fosco33
09-01-2018, 04:58 PM
I see Kendrick’s getting cut. Why 4 TEs? And Davis and or Cobb traded.

Still have jones in 3 weeks. But need 2 more OLBs.

Joemailman
09-01-2018, 06:12 PM
I see Kendrick’s getting cut. Why 4 TEs? And Davis and or Cobb traded.

Still have jones in 3 weeks. But need 2 more OLBs.

4 TE's could happen because there's no FB. But 8 WR's ain't happening.

Teamcheez1
09-01-2018, 06:29 PM
I think Gute made a real statement today by releasing some of the TT picks. if you ain't good enough to play, you won't make this roster.

pbmax
09-01-2018, 06:40 PM
Raven Greene? Raven Greene?? Who the hell is Raven Greene? Sounds like a woman I watched on Pornhub last week.

He played a pretty solid safety and is probably why Evans is gone. We'll see. More problematic is that Clinton Dix seemed as uninvolved as last year.

Fritz
09-01-2018, 06:54 PM
He played a pretty solid safety and is probably why Evans is gone. We'll see. More problematic is that Clinton Dix seemed as uninvolved as last year.

Come to think of it, I believe I watched a woman named Ha Ha on Pornhub last week, too.

smuggler
09-01-2018, 07:18 PM
I really hope we end up bringing Rip back. He's a good player.

Teamcheez1
09-01-2018, 07:23 PM
Who the hell is James Crawford?

wthigoot
09-01-2018, 07:37 PM
Raven Greene? Raven Greene?? Who the hell is Raven Greene? Sounds like a woman I watched on Pornhub last week.

He's required to change his name to Packer Greene now.

call_me_ishmael
09-01-2018, 08:26 PM
Woof, my detailed draft analysis showing why TT is gone look even more accurate now that 2015 has had three years to cook. Truly horrific drafting. This is an odd roster, expect to see some moves tomorrow. I still think Kumerow stays.

bobblehead
09-01-2018, 08:37 PM
Told u bitches Herb Waters was the real deal. I expect he starts by week 3

yetisnowman
09-01-2018, 09:00 PM
Randall yielded your backup QB. Ryan tore an ACL otherwise is a starter. Ripkowski played fine and was replaced by younger player.

Wish you were joking, but I fear you aren't. The 2015 draft was an unmitigated disaster. Just accept it.

George Cumby
09-01-2018, 09:30 PM
I really hope we end up bringing Rip back. He's a good player.

No

Joemailman
09-01-2018, 09:30 PM
Packers GM Brian Gutekunst cut five former Ted Thompson draft picks (Aaron Ripkowski, DeAngelo Yancey, Demetri Goodson, Kofi Amichia and Vince Biegel) and placed three others (Quinten Rollins, Kyle Murphy and Devante Mays) on IR, putting their futures in Green Bay in serious jeopardy. Trevor Davis, who was reportedly shopped around, might not stick after waiver claims are finalized. Gutekunst already traded away Damarious Randall and Brett Hundley, two other Thompson draft picks. The Packers’ new GM trimmed the fat he felt unnecessary from Thompson’s old roster.

Gutey not interesred in maintaining the status quo.

George Cumby
09-01-2018, 09:32 PM
So was it the players themselves or is it more of a message sending thing?

Or worse: is it a Gutey Ego thing?

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 09:37 PM
In the animal world, when a male takes a new mate he often kills any offspring from the old daddy. Gute is just sensibly clearly the way for his own genes to flourish.

George Cumby
09-01-2018, 09:57 PM
Lol. Who the fuck are you? Marlin fucking Perkins?

pbmax
09-01-2018, 10:07 PM
Silverstein
According to NFL transactions, #Packers DB Quinten Rollins, T Kyle Murphy and RB Devante Mays were waived injured, which means they’ll be released with an injury settlement.

Really surprised to see Murphy waived. Wonder if his injury will take a couple of months?

red
09-01-2018, 10:11 PM
i thought murphy was our one decent backup tackle?

red
09-01-2018, 10:13 PM
So was it the players themselves or is it more of a message sending thing?

Or worse: is it a Gutey Ego thing?

or TT hadn'd been all there for the last 2 or 3 drafts, and only now is someone willing to do something about it

Harlan Huckleby
09-01-2018, 10:55 PM
Lol. Who the fuck are you? Marlin fucking Perkins?

I loved Marlin's calm, faux-British narration as Jim waded into crocodile-infested waters, or wrestled a charging boar to the ground. "Good show, Jim . That was a close call."

Joemailman
09-01-2018, 10:57 PM
or TT hadn'd been all there for the last 2 or 3 drafts, and only now is someone willing to do something about it

Yep. TT was slipping. Gutey is doing the right thing in not compounding the mistakes.

Since 2014 the Packers have used 3 1st round picks and 4 2nd round picks on defensive secondary players. It's no wonder the Packers have depth issues at several positions.

smuggler
09-01-2018, 11:21 PM
2015 draft was pretty terrible league-wide

George Cumby
09-02-2018, 12:48 AM
I loved Marlin's calm, faux-British narration as Jim waded into crocodile-infested waters, or wrestled a charging boar to the ground. "Good show, Jim . That was a close call."

Or Jim being swallowed by an anaconda and old Marlin says “While Jim wrestles with 30’ of man eating snake, I’m going to observe a weaver bird colony with our natives hosts.” Meanwhile Jim: “Urgh-aaaaa-glib-glib-ffffffjgjgllll!”

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 03:14 AM
Wasn't TJ a first rounder or somethin?


TJ WATT fell right into the Packer's F'ckin Lap

THANKSTED then traded down four spots, and Pittsburg grabbed him right away. Ted picked up a dam 4th rounder. That was Biegel.

Some Tedians noted they'd take King and Biegel over Watt. I called Bullshit.

For what it's worth Watt has not torn it up yet but he had a good season last year.

I'd take him over King

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 03:16 AM
Randall yielded your backup QB. Ryan tore an ACL otherwise is a starter. Ripkowski played fine and was replaced by younger player.


The fact that Randall could only yield a backup QB says a ton about the Randall pick.

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 03:19 AM
And Randall cobb



ANY TRUTH TO THIS ? I can see Davis but we're maybe getting a 7th there.

We might net a 5th for Cobb

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 03:22 AM
So...……..SPRIGGS DIDN'T GET CUT ???

Anti-Polar Bear
09-02-2018, 03:49 AM
Told u bitches Herb Waters was the real deal. I expect he starts by week 3

Yo, Waters played like a wanker in the recently concluded meaningless games. Made Mr Hyde look like Chuck Woodson.

I’m baffled that Waters made the team. Wanker is not even a ST demon. Musta be having relations with a decision maker.

Yes, Harlan and I are allowed to use the W-word, as we’re both British-Americans of French ancestry.

Teamcheez1
09-02-2018, 08:26 AM
I'm rather impressed with how Gute has handled the team in his first year. He seems to have a plan and is not afraid to make the hard decisions. Although TT dd some good things, his time had passed, and that can be seen with the results of the last few drafts. Who knows about the results, but Gute wants to move this team in the right direction.

Joemailman
09-02-2018, 08:29 AM
TJ WATT fell right into the Packer's F'ckin Lap

THANKSTED then traded down four spots, and Pittsburg grabbed him right away. Ted picked up a dam 4th rounder. That was Biegel.

Some Tedians noted they'd take King and Biegel over Watt. I called Bullshit.

For what it's worth Watt has not torn it up yet but he had a good season last year.

I'd take him over King

Time will tell on King vs. Watt. Both have looked really good when not injured. The Biegel pick was a bad pick obviously. Still, it's hard to argue with TT trading down and getting a 4th round pick. TT has had some great success in the 4th round. Just didn't work this time.

gbgary
09-02-2018, 09:51 AM
He's required to change his name to Packer Greene now.

Forest Green

red
09-02-2018, 10:01 AM
ANY TRUTH TO THIS ? I can see Davis but we're maybe getting a 7th there.

We might net a 5th for Cobb

sounds like the whole nfl is aware that they just want to get rid of him, but no one is willing to offer anything for a guy whos getting paid like an elite #1 but has never produced at that level

whats odd is that the report came out over a week ago, but there was no mention of it on here until yesterday

smuggler
09-02-2018, 11:00 AM
So...……..SPRIGGS DIDN'T GET CUT ???

Guy's probably starting week 1. Unless you'd prefer to roll with 10 on the field on offense.

Joemailman
09-02-2018, 11:10 AM
Guy's probably starting week 1. Unless you'd prefer to roll with 10 on the field on offense.

Bakhtiari and Bulaga are ready.

Pugger
09-02-2018, 11:25 AM
TJ WATT fell right into the Packer's F'ckin Lap

THANKSTED then traded down four spots, and Pittsburg grabbed him right away. Ted picked up a dam 4th rounder. That was Biegel.

Some Tedians noted they'd take King and Biegel over Watt. I called Bullshit.

For what it's worth Watt has not torn it up yet but he had a good season last year.

I'd take him over King

I too was disappointed Ted passed on TJ Watt.

Pugger
09-02-2018, 11:27 AM
Time will tell on King vs. Watt. Both have looked really good when not injured. The Biegel pick was a bad pick obviously. Still, it's hard to argue with TT trading down and getting a 4th round pick. TT has had some great success in the 4th round. Just didn't work this time.

And it isn't like we picked Biegel all that high either. It is unfortunate it didn't work out and this position is still in need of talent. Perhaps Gute will address it next spring.

pbmax
09-02-2018, 01:06 PM
The fact that Randall could only yield a backup QB says a ton about the Randall pick.

If the backup can play, then it worked out all around. If he can't, then trash away. I am not convinced Randall is a dud. After his in game snit, he played well.

We'll see. I still think this was McCarthy getting rid of an attitude.

pbmax
09-02-2018, 01:08 PM
sounds like the whole nfl is aware that they just want to get rid of him, but no one is willing to offer anything for a guy whos getting paid like an elite #1 but has never produced at that level

whats odd is that the report came out over a week ago, but there was no mention of it on here until yesterday

He is not being paid like an elite #1. He's being paid like a starter, which he is.

George Cumby
09-02-2018, 01:46 PM
I wanted Watt, too. But we need to wait a couple seasons to see who was the better pick, Watt or King.

I’m not solid either way

run pMc
09-02-2018, 03:57 PM
If the backup can play, then it worked out all around. If he can't, then trash away. I am not convinced Randall is a dud. After his in game snit, he played well.

We'll see. I still think this was McCarthy getting rid of an attitude.

Randall probably should have been a safety. That was a terrible draft, the prime of Ted (and probably Mike) thinking they could take any athletic type and have them play a new position. Hubris draft perhaps? Randall played baseball, then hybrid safety-corner in college; Rollins basically played a year of college ball. Hindsight being 20/20 and all, both were akin to projects, and spending that kind of draft capital on projects is risky. (And yes, 2015 was a pretty miserable draft.)

Randall was also not good in the locker, and some wanted him cut after the Bears game. Hard not to see his days being numbered.

There's a pretty good chance Alexander and/or Jackson pan out -- both at least have football backgrounds. Even if Jackson needs a fair amount of seasoning as a man-corner he seems to be taking to it.

run pMc
09-02-2018, 03:59 PM
He is not being paid like an elite #1. He's being paid like a starter, which he is.

I don't see how anyone wants to trade for Cobb, not in the last year of a contract like he has. Plus without Cobb, the WR 'depth' might make Rodgers want to renegotiate that new contract. A lot of greenhorn WRs on the 53.

Teamcheez1
09-02-2018, 04:23 PM
I don't see how anyone wants to trade for Cobb, not in the last year of a contract like he has. Plus without Cobb, the WR 'depth' might make Rodgers want to renegotiate that new contract. A lot of greenhorn WRs on the 53.

Cobb will be a nice fill-in until the new kids get some experience. Yes, the contract is on the high side, but we get the bonus of a veteran receiver familiar with our system, someone Rodgers trusts, and $13M in cap room next year when we get rid of him.

Rutnstrut
09-02-2018, 05:37 PM
Cobb will be a nice fill-in until the new kids get some experience. Yes, the contract is on the high side, but we get the bonus of a veteran receiver familiar with our system, someone Rodgers trusts, and $13M in cap room next year when we get rid of him.



Until he gets hurt early in the season.

pbmax
09-02-2018, 05:49 PM
Lenny Pipkins is again available. Colts let him go.

pbmax
09-02-2018, 05:54 PM
Well, here is the source of the confusion over Ahmad Thomas:

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
#Packers will not be having ILB Ahmad Thomas back on their practice squad. Thomas is joining the Indianapolis Colts practice squad, a league source said.

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
Some more context on Ahmad Thomas' situation. He was in #Packers facility to sign to practice squad, but source says they turned him away. Thomas fortunate he was able to latch on with Colts. Highly unusual to be asked to come in on practice-squad Sunday only to be turned away.

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
So, to be clear, Ahmad Thomas was fully intent on staying with the #Packers. It was the team that turned him away, per source, after going through trouble of calling him into their facility. We'll see if that comes back to hurt them. Certainly doesn't help build relationships.

pbmax
09-02-2018, 05:59 PM
Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
#Packers GM Brian Gutekunst says the process "was really lively" this weekend. Never an easy time, he said, but thought process was good.

Gutekunst asked if two first-round picks were too much to give up for Khalil Mack: "I would never talk about the discussions I have with another team." Says there have been a lot of trade discussions in recent past.

Gutekunst said "quality" of WR depth chart was why #Packers kept 8 at that position, and hints that RB depth chart remains work in progress: "That's the thing about our roster right now. Nothing is set in stone. It's fluid."

Gutekunst: "That running back spot is a little bit of an evolving position right now."

Gutekunst says analytics play into how #Packers value fullback position, the fact they aren't on the field for that many snaps, and that TE can handle many of those job responsibilities.

Gutekunst on how James Crawford, a late arrival at camp, earned a spot on 53 at ILB. Says "special teams is really where he made his mark," especially in Kansas City: "He had one of the better special teams games that we've seen around here in a while in that last game."

Gutekunst on how he gauges whether to invest heavily into a star player or pull back: "I think my thought process is always winning. Does this help us win?"

Adds: "We're here to win now."

Gutekunst says his trust in how Mike McCarthy develops QBs was part of the reason he decided to keep Tim Boyle on the #Packers' 53, ensuring he has a chance to develop in McCarthy's system.

Gutekunst asked if it's easier to release a drafted player that Ted Thompson selected rather than his own, says he doesn't see any difference: "All the guys that were here, I've been invested in. I've been here. I've been a part of those drafts."

Gutekunst asked if he prefers 2 or 3 QBs on the 53, says it comes down to quality. Just like WR, he said. It's apparent #Packers new GM wanted to keep the 53 best players regardless of position. Something GMs always say, but this roster allocation seems to bear out that way.

Gutekunst asked if there are any players currently on the 53 headed to IR: "I would like to think all the guys we have right now would play for us at some point this season, but we're working through some things right now."

run pMc
09-02-2018, 06:27 PM
Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
So, to be clear, Ahmad Thomas was fully intent on staying with the #Packers. It was the team that turned him away, per source, after going through trouble of calling him into their facility. We'll see if that comes back to hurt them. Certainly doesn't help build relationships.

Surprised and disappointed by this. I thought he was going to make it over Martini and this Crawford guy (who's he?) since Morrison is basically in the Blake/Jake mold and Thomas would be more like Burks. I assume they will bring Josh Jones in if they need to. And yeah -- calling Thomas in to turn him away is a hell of a thing for a team to do (or one very nasty prank by someone pretending to be on staff).

red
09-02-2018, 06:46 PM
He is not being paid like an elite #1. He's being paid like a starter, which he is.

so top 10 money at a position is just "starter money"

because thats what he got when he signed

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 06:49 PM
If the backup can play, then it worked out all around. If he can't, then trash away. I am not convinced Randall is a dud. After his in game snit, he played well.

We'll see. I still think this was McCarthy getting rid of an attitude.


MY TAKE

Randall had a ton of talent that the GB coaching staff was unable to maximize

Sounded like he was a douchebag in GB; sounded like the GB coaches wanted to dump him

We got screwed in that deal.

You don't spend a 1st round draft pick on a backup QB, who really looks like the same guy we just traded away for a 6th round pick.

Bretsky
09-02-2018, 06:54 PM
so top 10 money at a position is just "starter money"

because thats what he got when he signed


Is Cobb really getting top 10 money ? He might...but it seems like 8-9/yr would not be top money anymore

Is Cobb really a starter ? Apparently on GB; but how many other teams want him as a starter with that wage ? Interesting to debate

Joemailman
09-02-2018, 07:24 PM
Is Cobb really getting top 10 money ? He might...but it seems like 8-9/yr would not be top money anymore

Is Cobb really a starter ? Apparently on GB; but how many other teams want him as a starter with that wage ? Interesting to debate

Cobb is #22 in average salary among WR's. So while he's overpaid, he's not getting elite money. I'm for keeping him this year. He can help the team win now, and hopefully one of the young guys will develop as the year goes on.

red
09-02-2018, 07:34 PM
Is Cobb really getting top 10 money ? He might...but it seems like 8-9/yr would not be top money anymore

Is Cobb really a starter ? Apparently on GB; but how many other teams want him as a starter with that wage ? Interesting to debate

the contract he signed 3 years ago still ranks as the 21st highest in the nfl

when he got it, in 2015, it was the 11th highest per year for WR's, one spot ahead of our clear cut #1 and a guy who actually produced (jordy), who signed his new contract just the season before

going off just this season, his cap number of 12.1 million is the 8th highest in the nfl among WRs

pbmax
09-02-2018, 07:37 PM
so top 10 money at a position is just "starter money"

because thats what he got when he signed

What year are we debating about here? 2015 or 2018?

Was Matt Stanford the best QB in football when he signed his deal or a FA at the right time?

The list of top paid isn’t perfect. But for this year Cobb is in the teens for his contract deal.

red
09-02-2018, 07:41 PM
also to keep in mind, back then, we didn't want to pay our clear cut "elite" #1 that kind of money. jennings left for minny and got 9 million a year.

i think a year later, jordy got 9.75 a year (and performed like a #1, and a year after that cobb got 10 million a year ( and imo, never came close to earning that kind of money)

Fritz
09-02-2018, 08:26 PM
Well, here is the source of the confusion over Ahmad Thomas:

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
#Packers will not be having ILB Ahmad Thomas back on their practice squad. Thomas is joining the Indianapolis Colts practice squad, a league source said.

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
Some more context on Ahmad Thomas' situation. He was in #Packers facility to sign to practice squad, but source says they turned him away. Thomas fortunate he was able to latch on with Colts. Highly unusual to be asked to come in on practice-squad Sunday only to be turned away.

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood
So, to be clear, Ahmad Thomas was fully intent on staying with the #Packers. It was the team that turned him away, per source, after going through trouble of calling him into their facility. We'll see if that comes back to hurt them. Certainly doesn't help build relationships.


Sounds like poor Ahmad Thomas was in a scene from a goddamn Charles Dickens novel - the hungry fledgling innocent turned away at the door by the foul-smelling rum-breathing oily-skinned Russ Ball. Or was it the sweaty, rutty Mike McCarthy?

pbmax
09-02-2018, 09:46 PM
Sounds like poor Ahmad Thomas was in a scene from a goddamn Charles Dickens novel - the hungry fledgling innocent turned away at the door by the foul-smelling rum-breathing oily-skinned Russ Ball. Or was it the sweaty, rutty Mike McCarthy?

Given the makeup of their practice squad (two open spots) its looks like they really didn't want him or are waiting on someone to make a decision.

I think its the first, they could have signed him and then let him go with two spots open.

Joemailman
09-02-2018, 11:21 PM
This is pretty incredible:

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/02/packers-reshape-roster-in-a-drastic-way-to-start-2018/


Of the 53 players on the roster to end last season, 27 weren’t on the Packers’ first roster of 2018.


Over half the roster was turned over by new GM Brian Gutekunst.

Here’s the list of the 27 players no longer on the Packers’ roster, listed alphabetically:

LB Vince Biegel (cut)
LB Ahmad Brooks (not re-signed)
CB Donatello Brown (cut)
S Morgan Burnett (not re-signed)
TE Emanuel Byrd (cut)
QB Joe Callahan (cut)
WR Michael Clark (retired)
C Dillon Day (cut)
DL Quinton Dial (not re-signed)
G Jahri Evans (not re-signed)
S Marwin Evans (cut)
LS Brett Goode (not re-signed)
CB Josh Hawkins (cut)
QB Brett Hundley (traded)
WR Jeff Janis (not re-signed)
OT Ulrick John (cut)
FB Joe Kerridge (cut)
RB Devante Mays (cut)
WR Jordy Nelson (cut)
OLB Chris Odom (cut)
OL Adam Pankey (cut, practice squad)
CB Lenzy Pipkins (traded)
CB Damarious Randall (traded)
FB Aaron Ripkowski (cut)
TE Richard Rodgers (not re-signed)
LB Joe Thomas (not re-signed)
P Justin Vogel (cut)

Hopefully the adage "Change is good" proves to be true.

Joemailman
09-03-2018, 08:21 AM
Packers waive Herb Waters.

and...



Rob Demovsky

@RobDemovsky
The Packers have placed WR Jake Kumerow I'm injured reserve, a source said. He would be eligible to return in Week 8 if the Packers wanted to use one of their return moves on him. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41030310-4 …

8:02 AM - Sep 3, 2018

Packers down to 51.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 08:47 AM
OK, so who are they dying to sign that they need 2 spots? Plus the 2 open on the PS?

And its an open question whether JK sees the field this year. You never know who is going to need to return from an injury.

Maybe they DO sign Dez :lol:

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:04 AM
Why do you keep 8 WR on your roster? Because they are waiting:

Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ
Here's the Patriots 52-man roster. They have an open spot now and will have another when Izzo is IRd

Arif Hasan @ArifHasanNFL
Cordarrelle Patterson is one of three receivers. Also, one of those receivers is Phillip Dorsett

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:06 AM
Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky

The Packers are signing veteran LB Korey Toomer, a source confirmed. @RapSheet had it first this morning.

Toomer has played for the Chargers, Raiders, Rams, Cowboys.

So there's one more spot to fill on the Packers' 53 with Kumerow going to IR and Herb Waters getting released.

ThunderDan
09-03-2018, 09:09 AM
Why do you keep 8 WR on your roster? Because they are waiting:

Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ
Here's the Patriots 52-man roster. They have an open spot now and will have another when Izzo is IRd

Arif Hasan @ArifHasanNFL
Cordarrelle Patterson is one of three receivers. Also, one of those receivers is Phillip Dorsett

You can only play chicken so long. At some point before Sunday, we aren’t going to have 7 WRs and 4 TEs. The roster is way out of balance in my opinion.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:25 AM
You can only play chicken so long. At some point before Sunday, we aren’t going to have 7 WRs and 4 TEs. The roster is way out of balance in my opinion.

They've also been down the 2 RBs active road before.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-03-2018, 09:40 AM
OK, so who are they dying to sign that they need 2 spots? Plus the 2 open on the PS?

And its an open question whether JK sees the field this year. You never know who is going to need to return from an injury.

Maybe they DO sign Dez :lol:

What the fuck's wrong with the punter? Jon Ryan is, finally, available again.

And yes to Dez.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:53 AM
What the fuck's wrong with the punter? Jon Ryan is, finally, available again.

And yes to Dez.

Jake Kumerow. Not JK Scott. Or JK Simmons. Or JK Rowling.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:54 AM
Packers have lost so many members of the All Name Team. Let's pause to remember one from Peter King now writing at Pro Football Talk because this is the darkest timeline.


4. I think the Name of the Weekend on the cut wire was Washington axing safety Fish Smithson. Fish suffered the same cruel fate as his brother, who was in Green Bay camp in 2011 but didn’t make the team. The brother: Shaky Smithson.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-03-2018, 09:54 AM
Jake Kumerow. Not JK Scott. Or JK Simmons. Or JK Rowling.

Oic.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-03-2018, 10:00 AM
Herb Waters getting released.

That news is gonna burst Bobble's bubble.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 11:21 AM
Packers at 52 now.

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
As @clarencehilljr said: The Packers are signing RB Darius Jackson to their roster, a source confirmed. Jackson was on the Cowboys practice squad after getting released on Saturday.

red
09-03-2018, 11:29 AM
didnt we have 3 really good looking rookie RB's last season

why are we only left with one of them plus monty? and this new guy

oh nvm, the other is just suspended for a bit

Fritz
09-03-2018, 11:37 AM
didnt we have 3 really good looking rookie RB's last season

why are we only left with one of them plus monty? and this new guy

One hurt and fumbly, the second suspended for doping it up, I believe. You know that, Redrick. Are you waxing metaphorical regarding Ted's drafting prowess in his late tenure?

red
09-03-2018, 11:46 AM
This is pretty incredible:

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/09/02/packers-reshape-roster-in-a-drastic-way-to-start-2018/



Hopefully the adage "Change is good" proves to be true.

i think in the TT days, all or most of the players from last years draft would still be on the team, whether they deserve to be there or not

i bitched about this for years. people would say TT is great because all his draft picks always make the team. my argument was that he kept them on the team, not because they were any good, but because he drafted them

now we already have 5 out of 10 draft picks from last year gone. 2015 draft class is almost completely gone

what we need to see, is if gutey is willing to cut his own draft picks, or is he just willing to cut someone elses. we do know, that he has no problem building through all means available to him

Fritz
09-03-2018, 11:47 AM
Korey Toomer? Like that? He's played for half-a-dozen teams.

Wait, what's that sound?

Oh, it's the sound of the scraping of the bottom of the barrel.

But I take your point. The 2015 draft class was awful.

gbgary
09-03-2018, 11:47 AM
monty, williams, jones, jackson. probably need one more just to be safe. i guess bougnon is the emergency guy.

hoosier
09-03-2018, 01:01 PM
This is feeling like a reload year in which Packers will be fortunate to finish 10-6 and get a WC berth.

Joemailman
09-03-2018, 01:31 PM
This is feeling like a reload year in which Packers will be fortunate to finish 10-6 and get a WC berth.

I'm not so sure. Most of the change is at the bottom end of the roster. Only 3 departures from last year were starters. Nelson, Burnett and Randall. I don't see any of those leaving gaping holes to fill.

esoxx
09-03-2018, 02:15 PM
Korey Toomer? Like that?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTO8_KNcuo

Joemailman
09-03-2018, 02:20 PM
Packers at 52 now.

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
As @clarencehilljr said: The Packers are signing RB Darius Jackson to their roster, a source confirmed. Jackson was on the Cowboys practice squad after getting released on Saturday.

Size/speed prospect. Questionable instincts. Might be able to return punts.


RB DARIUS JACKSON EASTERN MICHIGAN MID-AMERICAN

DRAFTED BY: COWBOYS ROUND6 PICK41 OVERALL216
GRADE 4.9

DRAFT ANALYSIS:

Jackson is an exceptional athlete with marginal football instincts. He likely won't get many chances to run behind Dallas' offensive line in camp so his special teams play will need to impress early. --Mark Dulgerian

6'0" HEIGHT
221LBS. WEIGHT

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Showed off a rare combination of size, speed and explosiveness at his pro day. Posted a sub-4.4 40-yard dash with a vertical leap of 41 inches and a broad jump of 11-foot-1. Long-strider with ability to cut strides when needed for short area change of balance and cuts. Has build*up speed to turn the corner and go when play flows wide. Has size to slip through arm tackles. Productive pass catcher. Can make variety of adjustments to secure poor throws. Has punt coverage background.

WEAKNESSES Upright runner with high pad level through the holes. Slows himself and braces for contact rather than finishing carries with authority. Not as competitive a runner as he needs to be. Too many short runs or losses against soft boxes. Will duck head into hole and short-*circuit vision for necessary cuts. Cuts lack suddenness and post-*cut burst. Dancer with a lack of decisiveness as a runner. Vision is well below average.

DRAFT PROJECTION Undrafted free agent

BOTTOM LINE The tape doesn't come close to matching the astounding pro day numbers that Jackson posted, but his combination of size and athletic traits could very well get him drafted. Jackson doesn’t have the vision or decisiveness to be a zone runner and appears to lack the physicality needed as downhill gap-*scheme back. While Jackson has the traits to compete on special teams, his tape looks like a practice squad player for now.
-Lance Zierlein

hoosier
09-03-2018, 08:02 PM
I'm not so sure. Most of the change is at the bottom end of the roster. Only 3 departures from last year were starters. Nelson, Burnett and Randall. I don't see any of those leaving gaping holes to fill.

Depth issues at OL and loss of Jordy will hurt the passing game at least early in the season. Not clear if the replacement talent is enough, or the right kind of talent, to handle defenses that can get pressure with front four alone (Minn x2, Chi x2, LA). Lack of depth and injury histories at LB are scary. I'm expecting some bumps in the road.

Teamcheez1
09-03-2018, 08:09 PM
I don't think losing Jordy will have much effect at all. The OL may be an issue if we see injuries at multiple positions. We have almost no depth at LB.

Guiness
09-03-2018, 08:15 PM
Why do you keep 8 WR on your roster? Because they are waiting:

Mark Daniels @MarkDanielsPJ
Here's the Patriots 52-man roster. They have an open spot now and will have another when Izzo is IRd

Arif Hasan @ArifHasanNFL
Cordarrelle Patterson is one of three receivers. Also, one of those receivers is Phillip Dorsett

You think they're fishing for a 7th or something from the Pats for one of those WRs?

pbmax
09-03-2018, 08:35 PM
You think they're fishing for a 7th or something from the Pats for one of those WRs?

Nah. Maybe, but that is just speculation.

If I were to suspect Belichick of coveting a Packer WR, it'd be Cobb. Which would explain the Mike Lombardi stupidity.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 08:48 PM
Rewatched the first couple of drives of the Chefs game. SPRIGGS™ looks marginally better. M3 did not protect with a TE the whole game, just twice, which looked like normal alignment calls. No chipping. He looks serviceable, and I don't mean that in a dismissive way. I think the tools are there. He has decent feet and a good kick step and he fights.

But he needs reps. His guy blew up a stretch play when he was the backside cutoff. The DT he was cutting off was over the guard and he never got close. He needs to launch out of that stance to get an elbow into his legs. He didn't get there then just jogged after the guy.

He still needs to work on his anchor and needs to get his arms lower when he locks on. But the only two pressures I would give him were each survivable if another O lineman hadn't got beat. On one, Bulaga got beat inside and so Kizer couldn't move up and had to run away from SPRIGGS™ guy.

But as a 2nd round pick (and a trade up) its still slightly disappointing. He needs work and another offseason. If healthy he should get plenty of work as the #3 tackle with two beat up older guys in front of him. But I think I can see him doing it.

pbmax
09-03-2018, 09:13 PM
More Spriggs. Two bad run blocks on Boyle's first drive. Was pretty solid in pass pro and had two pancakes, one from a straight one on one win and another from a chip done right on a DT. Had one bad read on TD play where they were in a Bear front and Spriggs looked outside at a back who did not rush. Guard and center slid right. Left the DT all alone who was too slow to get to Boyle before the pass to Tonyan.

As I said, he needs work, but I think he can do it.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-04-2018, 03:27 AM
Come to think of it, I believe I watched a woman named Ha Ha on Pornhub last week, too.

I’m telling ya, Fritz, I was once a racist, a la Tony ODay. Then I started watching mixed-race porn. At one point in that endeavor, it became clear to me that relations between humans are pretty much just that...between humans. Thus, I ain’t a racist no more.

However, I still can’t stand interspecial relations. Homo sapiens banging Neanderthals? Erectus? Shaking my head. No wonder us humans remain an inferior species compared to what’s out there in the vast, lonely universe. We, to paraphrase Zool, allowed the dumb gene into our genes by fucking dumb species.

pbmax
09-04-2018, 08:14 AM
Did anyone like Bo Scarborough in the draft? Because the Cowboys not only released new Packer Darius Jackson, but also Scarborough Fair. And a few writers are perplexed by his status as he was a dangerous runner in college.

Zool
09-04-2018, 10:24 AM
Did anyone like Bo Scarborough in the draft? Because the Cowboys not only released new Packer Darius Jackson, but also Scarborough Fair. And a few writers are perplexed by his status as he was a dangerous runner in college.

So was Fat Eddy. Maybe they have the same chef?

Tony Oday
09-04-2018, 06:23 PM
I’m telling ya, Fritz, I was once a racist, a la Tony ODay. Then I started watching mixed-race porn. At one point in that endeavor, it became clear to me that relations between humans are pretty much just that...between humans. Thus, I ain’t a racist no more.

However, I still can’t stand interspecial relations. Homo sapiens banging Neanderthals? Erectus? Shaking my head. No wonder us humans remain an inferior species compared to what’s out there in the vast, lonely universe. We, to paraphrase Zool, allowed the dumb gene into our genes by fucking dumb species.

I'm a racist now?

Joemailman
09-04-2018, 06:34 PM
I'm a racist now?

Consider the source.

Joemailman
09-04-2018, 06:36 PM
Did anyone like Bo Scarborough in the draft? Because the Cowboys not only released new Packer Darius Jackson, but also Scarborough Fair. And a few writers are perplexed by his status as he was a dangerous runner in college.

Doesn't he have that television show? Morning Bo?

Teamcheez1
09-04-2018, 06:37 PM
Did anyone like Bo Scarborough in the draft? Because the Cowboys not only released new Packer Darius Jackson, but also Scarborough Fair. And a few writers are perplexed by his status as he was a dangerous runner in college.

Ron Dayne 2.0

Anti-Polar Bear
09-05-2018, 02:05 PM
I'm a racist now?

Is there a black QB you don’t hate? Nuff said.

Zool
09-05-2018, 03:24 PM
Is there a black QB you don’t hate? Nuff said.

https://dorimedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/logo_dumb_brush.png

Tony Oday
09-07-2018, 06:37 AM
Not many I dont like except for the race baiting, noodle armed, voided his own contract whiner you jack off too nightly in Hope's your minimum wage job friends like you better.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-08-2018, 12:41 AM
Not many I dont like except for the race baiting, noodle armed, voided his own contract whiner you jack off too nightly in Hope's your minimum wage job friends like you better.

ODay, based on your posts, you’re as racist as the South. Ever wonder what an extreme, low IQ Tex looks like? Go look in a mirror! And go root for the NHL or something. Leave the NFL for open-minded folks such as myself and my bro Harlan.

Now, I’m a-telling ya, I like my food spicy, my beer cold, my women hot, my corners dark and my QBs pale. But still, I’m as open-minded as the North.

Btw: Kap ain’t a black QB. Dude’s a mutant QB. When you combine the smart gene of the Aryan race with the athletic gene of the African race, you get Kap. And Kap ain’t a noodle-arm, yo!

Btw2: This post was inspired by Harlan and his funny posts.

wist43
09-08-2018, 06:05 AM
More Spriggs. Two bad run blocks on Boyle's first drive. Was pretty solid in pass pro and had two pancakes, one from a straight one on one win and another from a chip done right on a DT. Had one bad read on TD play where they were in a Bear front and Spriggs looked outside at a back who did not rush. Guard and center slid right. Left the DT all alone who was too slow to get to Boyle before the pass to Tonyan.

As I said, he needs work, but I think he can do it.


ODay, based on your posts, you’re as racist as the South. Ever wonder what an extreme, low IQ Tex looks like? Go look in a mirror! And go root for the NHL or something. Leave the NFL for open-minded folks such as myself and my bro Harlan.

Now, I’m a-telling ya, I like my food spicy, my beer cold, my women hot, my corners dark and my QBs pale. But still, I’m as open-minded as the North.

Btw: Kap ain’t a black QB. Dude’s a mutant QB. When you combine the smart gene of the Aryan race with the athletic gene of the African race, you get Kap. And Kap ain’t a noodle-arm, yo!

Btw2: This post was inspired by Harlan and his funny posts.

Congratulations, you broke Partial's record for stupid :roll:

Fritz
09-08-2018, 08:57 AM
Wow. Wist, we agree on something!

pbmax
09-08-2018, 12:32 PM
Congratulations, you broke Partial's record for stupid :roll:

Are you saying Tank and I combined to beat the overall record or that individually we each set a new mark. I need to know how to enter this in the PackerRats record book.

Anti-Polar Bear
09-08-2018, 01:19 PM
Are you saying Tank and I combined to beat the overall record or that individually we each set a new mark. I need to know how to enter this in the PackerRats record book.

Nobody knows what the fuck is the Bear defense, just like nobody knows what the hell is the pistol force defense. Lol

wist43
09-08-2018, 08:24 PM
Are you saying Tank and I combined to beat the overall record or that individually we each set a new mark. I need to know how to enter this in the PackerRats record book.

Humble apologies good sir... the record belongs to APB alone.

No one, not any other single person in the world, can compete with APB in a match of dimwits.

KYPack
09-08-2018, 09:43 PM
Humble apologies good sir... the record belongs to APB alone.

No one, not any other single person in the world, can compete with APB in a match of dimwits.

You got it, Wist.

In a battle of wits, the APB is an unarmed man.

Tony Oday
09-09-2018, 11:03 AM
APB is just a product of spy, no testosterone and limited intelligence.