The Official Pack-Queens GameDay Thread

[pbmax]

burned no time off the clock

But you gained two shots at end zone plus game can't end on one possession. Net positive.

[Harlan Huckleby]

best vikings can do is take it to overtime.

PAckers still in good shape

[RashanGary]

Why run it before the 2 point warning. Stupid af.

[Rastak]

Saints eek pst the Browns.

[MadScientist]

premature dagger

Happens to a lot of guys. Call in Big Jim Slade

[Packers4Glory]

Too bad Dix didn’t attempt to really take it to the house

[Cheesehead Craig]

What?

[MadScientist]

Fuck Clay again.

[beveaux1]

Too stupid for words.

[pbmax]

Browns on one game losing streak.

Great stunt to free up Clay. He got shot on Cousins PLUS the INT.

Well done defense.

[Rastak]

wow, you guys fucked up....Lame call but so was Kendrick’s penalty.

[RashanGary]

That was not a penalty. Bad game

[red]

don't be roughing


FUCKING CLAY AGAIN

THATS NOT ROUGHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

no, that is not roughing

[Packers4Glory]

Wtf last week was a penalty. Tbis week fuckn no way

[Bretsky]

Browns on one game losing streak.

Great stunt to free up Clay. He got shot on Cousins PLUS the INT.

Well done defense.



HOW IN THE FUCK IS THAT A PENALTY ?

JUST GIVE THE VIKINGS A FUCKING TD

[pbmax]

That was a legit hit.

[Guiness]

I called that penalty while the ball was in the air...

[Harlan Huckleby]

wilkerson, wilkerson

[Rastak]

no, that is not roughing


It is now and I don’t like it.

[pbmax]

He put on hand on ground and two knees. Did not land full weight on QB.

[RashanGary]

Officials really fucking bad todag

[Bretsky]

HAND DELIVER A TIE TO THE VIKINGS


THANKS REFS

HORRIBLE

[Rutnstrut]

They might as well just play flag football. That is what the NFL wants.

[Cheesehead Craig]

It is now and I don’t like it.

No it wasn't

[red]

refs and nfl have done everything in their power to give this game to the queens

this is insane

[RashanGary]

It is now and I don’t like it.

No, that one wasn’t. At all.

[Bretsky]

even the official sitting back to analyze calls would not have made that call

[RashanGary]

refs and nfl have done everything in their power to give this game to the queens

this is insane

This is the weirdest called game I’ve seen. Just bizarre.

[Rastak]

HAND DELIVER A TIE TO THE VIKINGS


THANKS REFS

HORRIBLE

You forgot to use the giant font when Kendrick’s got the exact same call.

[Bretsky]

No, that one wasn’t. At all.

horrible to make that call there

Last week was a penalty

This week the refs give the Vikings early Xmas presents

[Rastak]

No, that one wasn’t. At all.
It was the Exact same call as Kendrick’s.

[pbmax]

You forgot to use the giant font when Kendrick’s got the exact same call.

Eddie never broke his weight with hand or knee in ground.

[RashanGary]

This game was called horribly. Packers played better than this score and there is no doubt about it.

[Cheesehead Craig]

It was the Exact same call as Kendrick’s.

Again, no it wasn't

[Bretsky]

You forgot to use the giant font when Kendrick’s got the exact same call.


The Kendricks call was questionable

This call was not.....and to make it there......even worse.

[RashanGary]

It was the Exact same call as Kendrick’s.

Yeah, maybe.

[Rastak]

Wow, unreal.

[red]

You forgot to use the giant font when Kendrick’s got the exact same call.

what about the other 5 or 6 insane calls that have gone your way

you guys had one bad call go against you, we've had 5, 6 or 7

[MadScientist]

Fuck!!!!

[Bretsky]

Again, no it wasn't

agree

[Rastak]

This is it.

[RashanGary]

Holy shit!!!

[pbmax]

What was Brice trying to hit?

[Rastak]

Fuck yaaaaaaaaa!

[RashanGary]

Oh fuck!!! Hahahahah

[MadScientist]

Double FUCK!!!

[Rastak]

What a game no matter how it ends.

[red]

Wow, unreal.

congrats, the nfl wanted you to win today

absolutely no question about it

[pbmax]

Tramontana has lost some spring in his step.

[Packers4Glory]

Football is pretty much unwatchable with these roughing the passer judgement calls

[Bretsky]

congrats, the nfl wanted you to win today

absolutely no question about it



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-OF7KGyDis

[Rutnstrut]

You guys can't think the calls for GB are great and the ones against are terrible. The truth is that this game has been called horribly BOTH ways. But even worse is these pathetic pussy rules the NFL has now.

[Packers4Glory]

Brice could have made a play on the ball. Wtf was he doing

[pbmax]

What was that?

[red]

hail mary?

or kick

[pbmax]

I like that rollout. Unplanned.

[Rastak]

This is in his range....

[red]

come on mase

[RashanGary]

Omg!!!!!

[pbmax]

51 yards to win

[Rastak]

Lol.....

[red]

Brice could have made a play on the ball. Wtf was he doing

he held back for some reason

[RashanGary]

Money mase.

[pbmax]

SWEET!!!!

DAMMIT

[Guiness]

No pressure Crosby!

[Rastak]

Lol, wow.....OT.....this is great....

[MadScientist]

Fucking icing.

[red]

fuck

[RashanGary]

Oh no!!!!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just like the Badgers yesterday

[pbmax]

C'MON!!

[Bretsky]

JUST got a call from my friend in New York

Telling me the Packers got ABSOLUTELY SCREWED

[red]

Lol, wow.....OT.....this is great....

yup, you and the nfl should be really happy

[RashanGary]

Really bad officiating. Just wow!

[RashanGary]

Holy shit!!!

[Bretsky]

Lol, wow.....OT.....this is great....


I disagree; nothing great about this

[RashanGary]

Definitely rigged though. Not the whole nfl, just the two officials.

[Bretsky]

GB probably loses this game

When you get bent over this bad teams hardly ever overcome that

[RashanGary]

Every bad call was made by two officials too. Clearly shady.

[Rastak]

I disagree; nothing great about this


They call roughing on damn near every play.i am telling you same exact call as Kendricks. It’s the shitty way of the NFL now.

[pbmax]

I look forward to a week of refs having money on the game jokes.

[Rastak]

Ithat was an insane play on that last TD.

[Rutnstrut]

They call roughing on damn near every play.i am telling you same exact call as Kendricks. It’s the shitty way of the NFL now.

Ras, like I have said before. Most of the guys here can't see anything without a green and gold tint to it.

[pbmax]

Perry is just a wall.

[beveaux1]

Defense is gassed.

[Bretsky]

They call roughing on damn near every play.i am telling you same exact call as Kendricks. It’s the shitty way of the NFL now.


Even the ref in the studio didn't support his buddy; that was horrible. Absolutely atrocious. Might as well just give them the game.

That call hardly ever gets made on that play .

But it did today

[pbmax]

Fackrell with nice hit.

[Rastak]

Even the ref in the studio didn't support his buddy; that was horrible. Absolutely atrocious. Might as well just give them the game.

That call hardly ever gets made on that play .

But it did today

They showed it again, it the SAME FUCKING PLAY AS KENDRICKS

[Harlan Huckleby]

both teams are gassed

[pbmax]

Nice hands up!

[Rastak]

Rookie kicker...

[pbmax]

Playing for a FG?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I wouldn't waste a timeout here, they might need it

[Rastak]

Nice job....

[pbmax]

They showed it again, it the SAME FUCKING PLAY AS KENDRICKS

I disagree. Matthews took his weight off the hit when the QB hit the ground by putting a hand and knees into the ground. Kendrick's did not.

[MadScientist]

choke!

[red]

missed it

FUCK YOU NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mraynrand]

They showed it again, it the SAME FUCKING PLAY AS KENDRICKS

Rodgers’ was a game ending play?

[RashanGary]

Omg!

[Bretsky]

I disagree. Matthews took his weight off the hit when the QB hit the ground by putting a hand and knees into the ground. Kendrick's did not.



agree

[Rastak]

I gotta say Rodgers is the guy I’d want in this situation.

[pbmax]

Disagree with playing for a FG there.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rookie kicker...

CArlson. Do Vikings look for nordic players?

[Rastak]

Rodgers’ was a game ending play?
‘What does that have to do with anything? It’s either a foul or it isn’t. They called both and I didn’t like either.

[RashanGary]

Awwwe shit!!!!!

[pbmax]

Lane Taylor nearly tackled Williams.

[red]

holy crap that was clise

[Rastak]

It’s either turnover or GB wins....

[pbmax]

G-MO!!

[RashanGary]

Oh god!!!! Minnesota sweating now

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lane Taylor nearly tackled Williams.

he failed to wrap up

[Harlan Huckleby]

Oh god!!!! Minnesota sweating now

both Ds are exhausted. sweating indeed. cramp city.

[pbmax]

Tough play for gimpy QB.

[Rastak]

Zimmer dials it up..

[Harlan Huckleby]

Rodgers is a bum

[RashanGary]

Omg!!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

nice protection

[Rastak]

Man, what a crazy game.

[pbmax]

Bad read by O line. Left bach with 2 guys.

[RashanGary]

Rodgers is a bum

Lol!

[Bretsky]

Tough play for gimpy QB.

OMG

Did MM really call that for Rodgers to run ?

[mraynrand]

Can’t go empty on that 3rd down

[Guiness]

WHAT'S GOING ON? MY STREAM JUST ENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pbmax]

Poor time for that punt.

[RashanGary]

Bring on Lowry and fackrell

[pbmax]

WHAT'S GOING ON? MY STREAM JUST ENDED!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vikingsball on the 25 3:48 left.

On the 20 sorry. Digg with 15 catch now at 35

[Cheesehead Craig]

Holding

[Rastak]

Hooked on a Thielen....high on believing.

[pbmax]

1st and 10

on 32

crossing route to Thielen for 20 at Packer 36

[Harlan Huckleby]

fucking cousins is good

[MadScientist]

Did Capers come back?

[RashanGary]

Lowry Gilbert fackrell. We’re so tired

[Packers4Glory]

I’m about done w the NFL. What a joke. Stole thos game from GB

[Rutnstrut]

This D sucks when they aren't gassed. Now they are total shit.

[pbmax]

Sorry to 46

Catch left to Rudolph to Packer 38 2nd down

[Harlan Huckleby]

surgical

[esoxx]

I hate pro football now. I really do. Way too over regulated. Game is too influenced now by referee calls. Just stupid.

Put a red jersey on the QB now and get it over with. Do not touch.

Whatever, game is a shell of it's prior self and trash.

[RashanGary]

Omg! Come the fuck on!

[pbmax]

completed pass behind LOS loss of 1, 3rd down and short

[Rastak]

This D sucks when they aren't gassed. Now they are total shit.

They played well today actually. Sure, some mistakes but not a bad effort.

[Rutnstrut]

I’m about done w the NFL. What a joke. Stole thos game from GB

With the pussified rules yes. Defense can't play like a defense should.

[Fosco33]

Stlll can’t believe the call in Cm3! Robbed

[mraynrand]

‘What does that have to do with anything? It’s either a foul or it isn’t. They called both and I didn’t like either.

Refs typically don’t like to decide games on ‘close’ calls

[Harlan Huckleby]

I hate pro football now. I really do. Way too over regulated. Game is too influenced now by referee calls. Just stupid.

today the refereeing ruined a good game. This was worse than usual.

[red]

I’m about done w the NFL. What a joke. Stole thos game from GB

i'm at that point too

[RashanGary]

Game. Fuck

[pbmax]

Bubble screen to WR, first down gain of 4 approx

[Cheesehead Craig]

Game over

[pbmax]

On 30

Had RB in backfield but broke through for 10

[Bretsky]

what a horrible defensive alignment on 3rd and 2

One DB up....2 five yards back...…

[Rastak]

Refs typically don’t like to decide games on ‘close’ calls

I’m one of the guys who thinks the rules should be applied the same in all 4 quarters. Same in the playoffs.

[Harlan Huckleby]

candy from a baby

[RashanGary]

Omg. Sick.

[Rastak]

Oh man, don’t fuck it up.

[pbmax]

Gain of 4 for first down at 25

Sorry inside 20

FG time

[Bretsky]

GB probably loses this game

When you get bent over this bad teams hardly ever overcome that




BUMP

[Guiness]

They showed it again, it the SAME FUCKING PLAY AS KENDRICKS

Tough crowd Rastak.

I do think Mathews made a concerted effort to not land on the QB, but it didn't matter. I'd have to watch it again in slo-mo, but I got the impression initial contact was made before he released the ball...I got that impression with Kendricks as well though.

Treadwell! Was that him I saw eating buttered popcorn on the sideline before coming in?

[Fosco33]

Won this game twice

[Harlan Huckleby]

turn on sprinklers mid kick

[mraynrand]

I’m one of the guys who thinks the rules should be applied the same in all 4 quarters. Same in the playoffs.

Good for you. So am I. I’m just letting you know that your claim the the plays are ‘the same’ is incorrect and also what I think most refs believe and how they mostly behave at ends of games.

[Rastak]

Fucking tie.

[RashanGary]

Omg!

[MadScientist]

HE CHOKED AGAIN.

Fucking tie, but beats losing.

[mraynrand]

What a stupid game

[pbmax]

the game that won't end

[Cheesehead Craig]

Wow

[red]

good grief

career over

[RashanGary]

That look in his eyes. Omg, lol!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Carlson looking for job

[pbmax]

Sweet! 12-3-1 prediction is happening!

[Bretsky]

Tying this game absolutely sucked.

[Rastak]

Good for you. So am I. I’m just letting you know that your claim the the plays are ‘the same’ is incorrect and also what I think most refs believe and how they mostly behave at ends of games.


I think that is complete bullshit but I know many people think that way. Just because there is 2 minutes left you can’t tackle a rusher or hold a receiver. The rules should be applied evenly.

[esoxx]

today the refereeing ruined a good game. This was worse than usual.

I don't blame the referees. It's the POS off season rules committee tampering with the game way, way too much. The refs are then put in a no-win situation trying to figure out what is "roughing."

As are the fans as they get a washed down version of pure garbage.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Fucking tie.

It's a fitting ending.

Other than we was robbed.

[RashanGary]

Carlson looking for job

And that receiver of theirs. Omg.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

So do I get to start the game day thread next week? technically, the packers didn’t lose.

[George Cumby]

Lol

[Rastak]

Tough crowd Rastak.

I do think Mathews made a concerted effort to not land on the QB, but it didn't matter. I'd have to watch it again in slo-mo, but I got the impression initial contact was made before he released the ball...I got that impression with Kendricks as well though.

Treadwell! Was that him I saw eating buttered popcorn on the sideline before coming in?

He’s terrible.

[Harlan Huckleby]

We should be happy. The Packers lost this game.

[esoxx]

What a stupid game

Completely dumb game.

[Rastak]

I don't blame the referees. It's the POS off season rules committee tampering with the game way, way too much. The refs are then put in a no-win situation trying to figure out what is "roughing."

As are the fans as they get a washed down version of pure garbage.

Yea, what Essox said....

[George Cumby]

So do I get to start the game day thread next week? technically, the packers didn’t lose.

Yes. Roll with your bad self.

[Rastak]

Carlson looking for job

He has to be right? That was pathetic.

[mraynrand]

King going out really changed the game

[Rastak]

That was a crazy assed game though.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you take away the refereeing, just look at which team dominated or made big plays, I say the game was even. A tie kinda reflects what happened on the field.

Still, we was robbed.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

King going out really changed the game

INJURY-PRONE!!!

[Rastak]

I was praising the GB defense, man, didn’t realize Cousins threw for over 400.

[pbmax]

So do I get to start the game day thread next week? technically, the packers didn’t lose.

Nope. You have to win. Not losing not enough Mike Junior :lol:

[pbmax]

I was praising the GB defense, man, didn’t realize Cousins threw for over 400.

Lot of that late on drives when Packers were trying to bleed clock.

[mraynrand]

I think that is complete bullshit but I know many people think that way. Just because there is 2 minutes left you can’t tackle a rusher or hold a receiver. The rules should be applied evenly.

I don’t think that way. But that’s been my experience in a lifetime of watching sports. Refs typically swallow the whistle/ hide the flag late in games. Some refs have been honest enough to admit it.

[smuggler]

Don't like the call on Matthews. He didn't spear, he wasn't late, he didn't hit head, he didn't hit below the knee, he didn't land all of his weight on Cousins. If that's a penalty, any hit is a penalty.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lot of that late on drives when Packers were trying to bleed clock.

Uh, come on, Cousins played a solid 4 quarters. credit where due

[Fosco33]

Robbed

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Don't like the call on Matthews. He didn't spear, he wasn't late, he didn't hit head, he didn't hit below the knee, he didn't land all of his weight on Cousins. If that's a penalty, any hit is a penalty.

Agree with u, for once.

[mraynrand]

Don't like the call on Matthews. He didn't spear, he wasn't late, he didn't hit head, he didn't hit below the knee, he didn't land all of his weight on Cousins. If that's a penalty, any hit is a penalty.

I pretty much agree. But if you look back to the Daniels play (letting up) you’re gonna see a lot more of that or a lot more roughing calls. Maybe a lot more of both.

I agree with Esoxx that the result of the ‘new rules’ will be more confusion.

[Packers4Glory]

With the pussified rules yes. Defense can't play like a defense should.

Spend an afternoon watching & have a win taken away on such a bullshit call is so infuriating. Coupled with the idiotic anthem protests & ive about had it. If we didn’t have Rodgers I’d be out. He’s so incredibly talented it’s hard to turn him off.

[Rastak]

I don’t think that way. But that’s been my experience in a lifetime of watching sports. Refs typically swallow the whistle/ hide the flag late in games. Some refs have been honest enough to admit it.

I agree with that Rand....it’s my experience too and it always drives me nuts.

[beveaux1]

Our defense was the same ole, same ole. Can't get off the field on 3rd down. Can't get a stop at the end of the game. Can't stop a 2 point conversion. I think opposing offenses are at 75 or 80% on 2 point conversions against us.

We have to completely rely on Rodgers and when he's at 3/4 strength against a good team, it isn't enough. We can blame the refs, but we had plenty of chances to walk off the field with a win and we didn't do it.

[pbmax]

Uh, come on, Cousins played a solid 4 quarters. credit where due

I am not maintaining he wasn't good. He was. Forget the weird end and missed FGs and calls, he has a 300 yard game.

But the Packers sloughed off coverage at the end to encourage short throws and bleed clock. That gave him an easier path to 400.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Nope. You have to win. Not losing not enough Mike Junior :lol:

What happened the last time the pack tied, game-day starter wise? I think tolizen started that game. Flynn finished. Queens were the opponent.

I don’t want thunderdan starting a thread. He thinks he’s so much better than us cos he has season tickets.

[texaspackerbacker]

Don't like the call on Matthews. He didn't spear, he wasn't late, he didn't hit head, he didn't hit below the knee, he didn't land all of his weight on Cousins. If that's a penalty, any hit is a penalty.

EXACTLY!!!! Robbed there, Robbed on the no pass interference on the Graham pass, Robbed on the Davante Adams T.D. catch, Robbed on the Lane Taylor holding penalty, did I miss any?

I will stop short of accusing the damn refs of anything intentional, but the mistakes sure were fucking onesided.

[pbmax]

What happened the last time the pack tied, game-day starter wise? I think tolizen started that game. Flynn finished. Queens were the opponent.

I don’t want thunderdan starting a thread. He thinks he’s so much better than us cos he has season tickets.

We have no idea who it will be. Someone has to be willing to step into Thunderdome and risk it against MasterBlaster.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Our defense was the same ole, same ole. Can't get off the field on 3rd down. Can't get a stop at the end of the game. Can't stop a 2 point conversion. I think opposing offenses are at 75 or 80% on 2 point conversions against us.

We have to completely rely on Rodgers and when he's at 3/4 strength against a good team, it isn't enough. We can blame the refs, but we had plenty of chances to walk off the field with a win and we didn't do it.

Yeah, lots of chances to win, but the mathews call was pure bullshit. I mean, if that is really a foul, there will be 0 sacks in the NFL for the rest of the year. Crosby making the 1st FG and missing the 2nd was just bad luck/timing. Maybe some good will come of this and the NFL will clarify the new rule so the refs get some help.

[Rutnstrut]

I don't blame the referees. It's the POS off season rules committee tampering with the game way, way too much. The refs are then put in a no-win situation trying to figure out what is "roughing."

As are the fans as they get a washed down version of pure garbage.



At least someone else on here gets it.

[gbgary]

the officials had a very rough game. the non pi call followed by a bogus one, the bogus holding on graham's td, clay's call. geesh.

[Rutnstrut]

I was praising the GB defense, man, didn’t realize Cousins threw for over 400.

Diggs and Theilen had over 200 yards receiving alone. That is not indicative of a defense that played even close to good.

[yetisnowman]

I am not maintaining he wasn't good. He was. Forget the weird end and missed FGs and calls, he has a 300 yard game.

But the Packers sloughed off coverage at the end to encourage short throws and bleed clock. That gave him an easier path to 400.

Sloughed off at the end? Of regulation or overtime? Vikings had timeouts and plenty of time so how were we trying to bleed clock exactly, preventing them scoring was the number one objective. Cousins had his way with the defense. Period. We still got robbed though.

[gbgary]

I was praising the GB defense, man, didn’t realize Cousins threw for over 400.

that's what happens when you play soft and give a big cushion.

[esoxx]

Yeah, lots of chances to win, but the mathews call was pure bullshit. I mean, if that is really a foul, there will be 0 sacks in the NFL for the rest of the year. Crosby making the 1st FG and missing the 2nd was just bad luck/timing. Maybe some good will come of this and the NFL will clarify the new rule so the refs get some help.

I think you're almost going to have to go to replay on some sacks (and we all want more replay right? GAG). I think the ref that threw the flag thought Clay drove him based on the angle he had looking at it. But clearly he was trying to cushion blow with other hand in ground. Clearly no intent there to drive QB in to ground and you can't decide a game with a call like that. You just can't.

NFL wants to over regulate? Then let's go ahead and really do it. Every QB sack is an automatic review before next snap can occur.

Whee!!!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

We have no idea who it will be. Someone has to be willing to step into Thunderdome and risk it against MasterBlaster.

Damn, I have a flawless argument in favor of the annihilation of “Redskins” waiting to be posted.

[pbmax]

Sloughed off at the end? Of regulation or overtime? Vikings had timeouts and plenty of time so how were we trying to bleed clock exactly, preventing them scoring was the number one objective. Cousins had his way with the defense. Period. We still got robbed though.

They were playing a lot of off coverage in the 4th. I doubt they do the same against the Vikes again because Thielen and Rudolph and Cousins were too adept at running and completing 7 yard outs on the backside.

I think it started on the Vikings drive, before the INT, when the lead was 5.

Again, I am not saying they didn't earn it, but the Packers changed the coverage.

[KYPack]

So do I get to start the game day thread next week? technically, the packers didn’t lose.

Hell NO

[ThunderDan]

Listened to the game driving home from MN. Got to watch the 2nd quarter ina bar having lunch.

Hard to beat a good team like the Vikings when you have to beat the refs also.

[Rastak]

Listened to the game driving home from MN. Got to watch the 2nd quarter ina bar having lunch.

Hard to beat a good team like the Vikings when you have to beat the refs also.

Although it's also easier when the opponent kicker misses three FGs in a tie game....

[ThunderDan]

Although it's also easier when the opponent kicker misses three FGs in a tie game....

Well... the last 2 should not have even been taken if the refs don’t fuck up. And the first one if he made it makes it a 5 point win instead of 8 points.

[Rastak]

Well... the last 2 should not have even been taken if the refs don’t fuck up.


Only takes one to win.

Not sure if this guy survives on the roster next week.

[QBME]

Hell NO

Seconded.

[pbmax]

Only takes one to win.

Not sure if this guy survives on the roster next week.

Seriously, what are the odds he's there by the bye week?

Zimmer specifically mentioned the Packers and Crosby when Walsh messed up, but when his struggles continued the next year, he was gone.

[Rastak]

Seriously, what are the odds he's there by the bye week?

Zimmer specifically mentioned the Packers and Crosby when Walsh messed up, but when his struggles continued the next year, he was gone.


You don't want to make emotional decisions but this guy fucked it up big time. Not sure what they will do.

[The Shadow]

EXACTLY!!!! Robbed there, Robbed on the no pass interference on the Graham pass, Robbed on the Davante Adams T.D. catch, Robbed on the Lane Taylor holding penalty, did I miss any?

I will stop short of accusing the damn refs of anything intentional, but the mistakes sure were fucking onesided.

There was something awfully fishy about the favoritism penalty calling today.....

[Bretsky]

Diggs and Theilen had over 200 yards receiving alone. That is not indicative of a defense that played even close to good.


Silly Rustnut; there is a simple explanation for the packers lack of defense.


BLAME DOM CAPERS !!!!!!!!!

[Bretsky]

Nope. You have to win. Not losing not enough Mike Junior :lol:


You are Fired !

Karma is evil

Your thread brought on this pathetic performance by the referees !! haha

[Bretsky]

Refs typically don’t like to decide games on ‘close’ calls

SO TRUE

As somebody whos ref'd and umpired, the idealistic view would be call the game the same regardless

But in sports that is simply NOT the case nor would anybody really want it that way

When a team is going for a last shot in Hoops on a tie game, you let the player's decide unless it's an obvious infraction

When it's fourth down, and the ball is up for grabs, you rarely see a pass interference call at end of game..even when there are obvious ones

On fourth down at end of game, you let the players play and don't call something unless it's obvious.

Which is why anybody watching that without bias will say the Packer royally got screwed today

After it happened I got a call from my buddy in New York, who loves busting my chops back from when GB was upset by Denver in the Super Bowl as I was confident. When things go arry he's the first one to throw a dart at me with some ribbing.

Today he called, right after it occurred, and his opening line was...YOU WERE ROYALLY SCREWED

Get the Vaseline out Packer Fans and lube yourself up
and
Merry Xmas to the Vikings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rastak]

SO TRUE

As somebody whos ref'd and umpired, the idealistic view would be call the game the same regardless

But in sports that is simply NOT the case nor would anybody really want it that way

When a team is going for a last shot in Hoops on a tie game, you let the player's decide unless it's an obvious infraction

When it's fourth down, and the ball is up for grabs, you rarely see a pass interference call at end of game..even when there are obvious ones

On fourth down at end of game, you let the players play and don't call something unless it's obvious.

Which is why anybody watching that without bias will say the Packer royally got screwed today

After it happened I got a call from my buddy in New York, who loves busting my chops back from when GB was upset by Denver in the Super Bowl as I was confident. When things go arry he's the first one to throw a dart at me with some ribbing.

Today he called, right after it occurred, and his opening line was...YOU WERE ROYALLY SCREWED

Get the Vaseline out Packer Fans and lube yourself up
and
Merry Xmas to the Vikings !!!!!!!!!!!!!!




"On fourth down at end of game, you let the players play and don't call something unless it's obvious. "


Do you realize how fucking insane this is? That's exactly the time you have to call it. Jesus Christ, isn't that the most critical part of the game? It's forth down, it's ok to grab the guy who has you beat, it won't be called. That's utter bullshit.

[Bretsky]

"On fourth down at end of game, you let the players play and don't call something unless it's obvious. "


Do you realize how fucking insane this is? That's exactly the time you have to call it. Jesus Christ, isn't that the most critical part of the game? It's forth down, it's ok to grab the guy who has you beat, it won't be called. That's utter bullshit.



IF you grab the guy when you are beat, that's a captain obvious call. But that's what it has to be to throw the flag....an obvious call You see a TON of borderline PI's not called at game's end because the better officials let the players win the game.
How many solid push offs have you witnessed in Hail Mary plays and the flag never gets thrown. End of game ticky tack holds ? They get called during the game..perhaps randomly....but only the clear holds are called at the end

Basketball....if you watch NBA and College......you have ton's of examples. That is how sports is and has always worked.

It's why that call is nothing short of insanity.

If you read the new rule I'm not even sure it's borderline. Maybe the ref had a bad angle and thought Matthews drove him into the ground. The call lacked explanation even when the ex official, who nearly always backs his ex guys, was asked to give an explanation. Everybody who saw the call has the same WTF reaction I have

[Rastak]

I get what you are saying Bretsky, but they've been making this goofy call consistently since preseason. Why would it change at the end of the game?

It should get tossed during ALL parts of the game, not just the end.

[mraynrand]

I get what you are saying Bretsky, but they've been making this goofy call consistently since preseason. Why would it change at the end of the game?

It should get tossed during ALL parts of the game, not just the end.

Ras, you're kinda missing the point. You're right on the money that stuff should be called consistently, and I know you also think this new 'rule' or emphasis is absurd all-around, but what Bresky and I are talking about is something different. I reffed basketball as well and I definitely let more stuff go late in very close games. No calls on ticky tack stuff. Swallow your whistle on close calls (don't call it either way). You really do want players to decide it. I'm telling you it's a real phenomenon, even if you ref as fairly as possible.

[Bretsky]

Ras, you're kinda missing the point. You're right on the money that stuff should be called consistently, and I know you also think this new 'rule' or emphasis is absurd all-around, but what Bresky and I are talking about is something different. I reffed basketball as well and I definitely let more stuff go late in very close games. No calls on ticky tack stuff. Swallow your whistle on close calls (don't call it either way). You really do want players to decide it. I'm telling you it's a real phenomenon, even if you ref as fairly as possible.


BINGO BINGO BINGO


Rastak, I think you should just EMBRACE THE SCREW AND ENJOY IT

You keep blaming the rule; the rule was not broken. If this was turned around the other way, most in here would be laughing about it and enjoying stealing the call.

Think of things with this simple comparison

Think of your most hated person in your 20's who had an incredibly hot girlfriend. You have your way with her and enjoy it. But instead of laughing/enjoying/flaunting your conquest, instead you deny it even occurred.

I say....EMBRACE THE SCREW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[KYPack]

Bills cornerback Vontae Davis retired from the NFL during halftime of the Bills loss to the Chargers.

Never heard of that happening before.

[Guiness]

Bills cornerback Vontae Davis retired from the NFL during halftime of the Bills loss to the Chargers.

Never heard of that happening before.

I guess it's kinda like deciding your job sucks, going for lunch and not going back? :huh:

[pbmax]

Bills cornerback Vontae Davis retired from the NFL during halftime of the Bills loss to the Chargers.

Never heard of that happening before.

Has to have happened to the Jets I'd bet.

[Smidgeon]

Just finished watching the game. In the back of my mind, I usually run a tally of bad calls by the refs that change a drive. My tally today was 4-1 against GB. Three PIs (not called on Graham's attempt, called against Adams, not called on Adams' TD) and the roughing the passer call (which wasn't consistent with the one against the Vikings as Matthews wasn't two steps away when the ball was released)--I read after it was because he picked up the QB. Lame call anyway as there was no "driving into the ground" in my opinion. The bad call in favor of the Packers was Allison's catch and run when he was touched with a knee on the ground.

Usually, the game ends up working out in favor of the team who loses the "bad call" tally, but not today. At least it was a tie because a loss would have been ridiculous with so many questionable, impactful calls that ended or continued drives.

[Zool]

The Sheldon Richardson roughing the QB was stupid too.

[Fritz]

"On fourth down at end of game, you let the players play and don't call something unless it's obvious. "


Do you realize how fucking insane this is? That's exactly the time you have to call it. Jesus Christ, isn't that the most critical part of the game? It's forth down, it's ok to grab the guy who has you beat, it won't be called. That's utter bullshit.

Totally agree with you, Ras. Why have rules if they don't apply somehow at the end of a game?

[pbmax]

Totally agree with you, Ras. Why have rules if they don't apply somehow at the end of a game?

Rand and Bretsky used to referee HS football games in Ohio and Texas. They just wanted to escape with their hides intact.

[mraynrand]

Rand and Bretsky used to referee HS football games in Ohio and Texas. They just wanted to escape with their hides intact.

I reffed mostly basketball in Minnesota. And some chick fights in Chicago.

[ZachMN]

Is it me or did the D start playing softer as the game went on and especially letting them dink and dunk down the field?

[Joemailman]

Is it me or did the D start playing softer as the game went on and especially letting them dink and dunk down the field?

Might have played softer after King left with an injury. Much of the defense looked gassed in the 4th quarter and OT. Daniels, Clark and Wilkerson all played a lot of snaps on a warm day. Maybe Mont Adams should have played more.

[pbmax]

I reffed mostly basketball in Minnesota. And some chick fights in Chicago.

Someone should have reminded you never to take your dates to the same bar on the same night.

[mraynrand]

Someone should have reminded you never to take your dates to the same bar on the same night.

No kidding. Even when you win, you lose.

[Bretsky]

Totally agree with you, Ras. Why have rules if they don't apply somehow at the end of a game?

no offense is meant at all here to anybody

but it's idealistic and silly to think games are ref'd and officiated the same throughout every second of the game regardless of situation.

[texaspackerbacker]

They say Minnesota may sign Dan Bailey.

[Bretsky]

Might have played softer after King left with an injury. Much of the defense looked gassed in the 4th quarter and OT. Daniels, Clark and Wilkerson all played a lot of snaps on a warm day. Maybe Mont Adams should have played more.


Do you ever notice him when he's in the game ? Serious question; maybe I'm missing something. He never seems to make plays; last year he was in street clothes earning a good paycheck. He looks the part; doesn't seem to play it

[Joemailman]

Do you ever notice him when he's in the game ? Serious question; maybe I'm missing something. He never seems to make plays; last year he was in street clothes earning a good paycheck. He looks the part; doesn't seem to play it

Maybe he's not noticed because teams aren't throwing at him. I think he's very good. But he has to find a way to stay healthy.

[wist43]

I missed the game, but watched the tape... horrible call on Matthews.

Were it called on the Vikings in the same situation I would have said the same thing.

They're ruining the game. The spineless owners will continue to bow to feminists and fags until they turn the game into a bunch of dykes running around in bloomers and army boots.

[Bretsky]

Maybe he's not noticed because teams aren't throwing at him. I think he's very good. But he has to find a way to stay healthy.


SORRY....I was referring to the DL Adams

King is OK; in a redo I still think it would be an easy call to take Watt but he's alright when not hurt