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pbmax
10-01-2018, 01:01 PM
Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
All three of Kyler Fackrell's sacks came in the fourth quarter, when the Bills were in a must-pass mode. Fackrell's playing time has increased from four snaps in the opener to 13 in Week 2 to 23 in Week 3 to a season-high 26 in...

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Joemailman
10-01-2018, 01:09 PM
4 snaps in Week 1? What the Fack were they thinking?

Harlan Huckleby
10-01-2018, 01:59 PM
Unleash Fackrell!

mraynrand
10-01-2018, 03:01 PM
At the rate he's going, he'll have 3 sacks next week.

Tony Oday
10-01-2018, 03:14 PM
At this rate we will have his name on the stadium by the end of the year.

Joemailman
10-01-2018, 03:17 PM
Unleash Fackrell!

He's the Aaron Jones of OLB's.

Cheesehead Craig
10-01-2018, 03:24 PM
Khalil who?

Joemailman
10-01-2018, 03:26 PM
Khalil who?

Fack>Mack.

Willard
10-01-2018, 03:30 PM
Fack>Mack.
The Pack’s Fack Sack Attack is Whack!

gbgary
10-01-2018, 03:45 PM
The Pack’s Fack Sack Attack is Whack!

nice.

gbgary
10-01-2018, 03:47 PM
had some good tackles and drew a penalty or two on buf.

mraynrand
10-01-2018, 04:26 PM
The Pack Lack Mack but Fack Sack Attack is Whack!

ATIFY

mraynrand
10-01-2018, 04:29 PM
That's a Fack Sack!*


https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.HUJUcNb6FiQEup-c7VyH5QHaE2&w=296&h=192&c=7&o=5&dpr=2&pid=1.7

*Wait, that doesn't sound right.... :oops:

wist43
10-01-2018, 04:37 PM
Fackrell has no business on an NFL roster... terrible player.

For next year Fackrell, Ryan, Morrison, and the other recent addition (name escaped me) all need to be replaced. Matthews and Perry are both borderline players.

Green Bay has the worst set of LB'ers in the league.

texaspackerbacker
10-01-2018, 05:38 PM
It's always hard to tell where the sarcasm ends and the bitterness begins in here. Fackrell has never been quite as bad as detractors claim. He needs to play at least a couple more games like he did against the Bills to prove he's for real. It could be that we just went up against an O Line that was even worse than our own. Fackrell has always been fast. He should be smart - being a little older than most 2nd year players. He maybe needs some added muscle. I still think he could be at least a decent rotational player.

Harlan Huckleby
10-01-2018, 06:30 PM
Fackrell has always been fast. He should be smart - being a little older than most 2nd year players. He maybe needs some added muscle. I still think he could be at least a decent rotational player.

I agree that he was and is a bit on skinny side. But he has plenty of upside.

Tony Oday
10-01-2018, 09:14 PM
When the announcers call his name it sounds like Fat Girl

pbmax
10-01-2018, 09:29 PM
Damn. Forgot to include the word Official in the title.

pbmax
10-01-2018, 09:33 PM
At the rate he's going, he'll have 3 sacks next week.

:lol: Help me out on what to expect next.

Sequential? Will he get 3 or be back to 0 for two weeks?

Linear growth trend line? Pro Bowl alternate

Quadratic? All Pro snub

Exponential? Hall of Fame in six years like Terrell Davis

Harlan Huckleby
10-01-2018, 10:25 PM
Watching Vaughn Miller tonight, that guy's got nothing on the Fackrell.

Fackrell is younger, hungrier, leaner and meaner.

pbmax
10-02-2018, 08:46 AM
Andy Herman @SconnieSports
Only Kyler Fackrell could manage a negative grade on a play he was credited for a sack on.
(For the record Fackrell never touched him, Allen tripped over his own lineman and it should have been a play on).
This is why you can’t always trust a box score ; )


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It still counts. Doesn't have to be pretty. Or planned. Or well executed. Taking out a teammate is completely expected.

Honestly, any pressure is good. He forced an O lineman into the QBs path and Fack cut off the QBs escape route. Wasn't pretty at all but he completely screwed up the offensive play. All we are asking really.

Fritz
10-02-2018, 08:58 AM
For the life of me I do not understand, after he clearly beat his man inside, why he kept crossing in front of the quarterback instead of turning upfield. Was the offensive lineman's seemingly slight hand push enough to keep Fackrell going past the QB? It's almost as if Fackrell thinks the Bills' left guard is the quarterback, cuz that's who he seems to be rushing.

And that's a Fack.

pbmax
10-02-2018, 10:37 AM
What was Kyler aiming at? It was an inside stunt to allow Clark to loop around inside.

But what was his target?

EDIT: sorry, mostly repeat of Fritz, but hey, speculation follows...

Did he get bumped or trip or was he trying to chip Matthews blocker off him?

Upnorth
10-02-2018, 11:02 AM
The more I watch that gif, the more i laugh. Its like he is participating in a three stooges skit.

Fritz
10-02-2018, 11:13 AM
Man, once he gets inside, if he changes direction and gets upfield Allen is right there.

run pMc
10-02-2018, 03:47 PM
and if Clark stayed on his feet he would've had the sack. I couldn't believe Fackrell got credited for 3 sacks...thought that was about double what he should've gotten.

I did appreciate him blowing kisses to the haters/crowd.

If he could show that he can consistently cover, or speed rush then he might have more value. As it is he's a good ST player but he really shouldn't be more than OLB #5. Yes, I know they only have 4 OLBs on the depth chart.

I don't think he's horrible, but if ST ace is his ceiling they could have found comparable production from a lower round pick or UDFA.

Who's the bigger R3 flop - Fackrell or Montravious? I guess we should give them both the whole season to decide.

Smidgeon
10-02-2018, 04:20 PM
I think Fackrell just figured out that RT at the end of the game. It's like finding a glitch in Madden. You exploit it often to get the sack (don't know about the new one, but back in Madden '04, if you called a certain play and shifted the D-line, the O-line wouldn't even try to block you; it was a sack up the gut on every play).

pbmax
10-02-2018, 05:44 PM
The best part of that play in Ponch running up to Allen at the end like something exciting was going to happen.

Second Fack speculation, maybe he was concussed? Or dizzy from earlier sack?

denverYooper
10-02-2018, 07:03 PM
Fackrell has created a new category: the trip-sack

denverYooper
10-02-2018, 07:05 PM
You guys just wait. Fackrell is going to make a critical sack in the superbowl when Bortles runs right into him and falls over.

It will be his Jarrett Bush moment.

Fritz
10-03-2018, 01:26 PM
I wish I hadn't seen that clip. Now I don't feel so great about Fackrell any more. That o-lineman tossed him around like a pizza dough.

hoosier
10-03-2018, 01:39 PM
What was Kyler aiming at? It was an inside stunt to allow Clark to loop around inside.

But what was his target?

EDIT: sorry, mostly repeat of Fritz, but hey, speculation follows...

Did he get bumped or trip or was he trying to chip Matthews blocker off him?

He looks like a fullback trying to open a lane for the halfback (Martinez). Only the halfback got swallowed up by the turf monster and didn't come blasting through the hole until five seconds later.

pbmax
10-03-2018, 01:46 PM
I have it!

Left foot injury, he couldn't plant and turn. Next step he got caught by OT and shoved.

run pMc
10-04-2018, 09:14 AM
Watching that clip, it looks like he was trying to bull rush the RG instead of squeezing between LG and LT. He took out both Clay and the RG.

pbmax
10-04-2018, 09:38 AM
^ Can't see Clay at the start of the play, but it looks like a double T-E twist stunt. End goes inside to tie-up Guard and OT, D Tackle loops outside hoping to find a vacated lane.

But I wonder if this pretty standard stunt has a twist. Are Clay and Kyler supposed to knock the Guards together? Literally meet in the middle and hope someone falls down?

It would serve two or three functions: confuse the pocket, making escape up the middle harder. Without a step up, you might put the QB in reach of a looping DT. And if a Guard falls down, then an End is free to the QB.

Fackrell should have recognized that the OT followed him and not the Guard, making the possible collision in the middle half as effective. But he had more than a step on the tackle and should have headed right for the QB.

Fritz
10-04-2018, 01:49 PM
^ Can't see Clay at the start of the play, but it looks like a double T-E twist stunt. End goes inside to tie-up Guard and OT, D Tackle loops outside hoping to find a vacated lane.

But I wonder if this pretty standard stunt has a twist. Are Clay and Kyler supposed to knock the Guards together? Literally meet in the middle and hope someone falls down?

It would serve two or three functions: confuse the pocket, making escape up the middle harder. Without a step up, you might put the QB in reach of a looping DT. And if a Guard falls down, then an End is free to the QB.

Fackrell should have recognized that the OT followed him and not the Guard, making the possible collision in the middle half as effective. But he had more than a step on the tackle and should have headed right for the QB.

How true that is.

If your thesis is correct - that Fack was supposed to meet in the middle, then he may have revealed one of his faults - he's so wedded to the plan that he can't see or can't take advantage of the very real opportunity to make a play that presents itself to him.

That big day of his don't seem so big no more.

wthigoot
10-05-2018, 12:58 AM
Andy Herman @SconnieSports
Only Kyler Fackrell could manage a negative grade on a play he was credited for a sack on.
(For the record Fackrell never touched him, Allen tripped over his own lineman and it should have been a play on).
This is why you can’t always trust a box score ; )


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It still counts. Doesn't have to be pretty. Or planned. Or well executed. Taking out a teammate is completely expected.

Honestly, any pressure is good. He forced an O lineman into the QBs path and Fack cut off the QBs escape route. Wasn't pretty at all but he completely screwed up the offensive play. All we are asking really.

Watched it while listening to Yakety Sax. Works great.

Hope Fack the Knife can keep getting some pressure on 3rd down and get the ball back to Rodgers.

pbmax
10-10-2018, 01:10 PM
Reports trickling in that Fackrell, instead of ruling the world, is this week cleaning out lint traps.

run pMc
10-10-2018, 04:38 PM
Is anyone shocked he disappeared against the Lions? Does anyone think he'll get 3 more sacks the rest of the year?

pbmax
11-02-2018, 03:01 PM
Another sack. At this rate, he'll be a Pro Bowler by his retirement year.

mraynrand
11-14-2018, 04:14 PM
If my research is correct, of the OLBs selected before Fackrell in 2016, only Leonard Floyd (12.5) and Jordan Jenkins (10.5) have more sacks than Fackrell (10.0).

gbgary
11-14-2018, 05:21 PM
late bloomer. hopefully it continues.

pbmax
11-14-2018, 07:00 PM
Maybe he is still inside his own head too much?

That spin move for the sack was the most deliberate looking spin move I have seen in a while.

Like he's learning how to dance.

George Cumby
11-14-2018, 07:58 PM
EXCLUSIVE!

A brain scan of Fackrell: “You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out.....”

Bretsky
11-14-2018, 08:41 PM
J.A.G.

Pugger
11-15-2018, 07:32 AM
J.A.G.

If Fackrell is JAG what does that tell us about the rest of these misfits?

pbmax
11-15-2018, 09:24 AM
Prediction: Fackrell will at some point surpass Watt in sacks this season now that he is basically starting.

bobblehead
11-15-2018, 12:04 PM
Prediction: Fackrell will at some point surpass Watt in sacks this season now that he is basically starting.

Prediction: Fackrell will break our heart at some point this season.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 12:29 PM
Prediction: Fackrell will break our heart at some point this season.

My heart will go on.

pbmax
11-15-2018, 02:07 PM
Prediction: Fackrell will break our heart at some point this season.

Probably that too. Unfortunately for the Fackrell Faithful, Solari has apparently corrected most of the damage that Tom Cable inflicted while decimating the O line in Seattle.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 10:59 PM
My heart will go on.

:hrt: :hrt:

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pbmax
11-15-2018, 11:01 PM
I have to remain somewhat restrained as the Seahawks O line has recovered from being terrible this year, but they still aren't a tremendous unit.

call_me_ishmael
11-15-2018, 11:02 PM
I am just so bedazzled and perplexed by this. Is this guy actually a suitable player now? Surely he isn't good, but is he at least okay? What a weird turn of events.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 11:03 PM
What the hell, I am going to be unrestrained

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Joemailman
11-15-2018, 11:09 PM
I am just so bedazzled and perplexed by this. Is this guy actually a suitable player now? Surely he isn't good, but is he at least okay? What a weird turn of events.

He's always had speed. Maybe Pettine has done a better job than Capers of putting him in situations where he can utilize that speed.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 11:18 PM
He's always had speed. Maybe Pettine has done a better job than Capers of putting him in situations where he can utilize that speed.

yeah, like on the field

pbmax
11-15-2018, 11:19 PM
He's always had speed. Maybe Pettine has done a better job than Capers of putting him in situations where he can utilize that speed.

A big difference tonight was that he seemed to know where he was going. That closing play on Wilson as he escaped the pocket to his left was fantastic. He was in coverage, had no one to cover so he could close with abandon. And he got to the right spot very quickly.

bobblehead
11-15-2018, 11:20 PM
Contract year. This is where we sign him to a perry contract right before he regresses to the mean.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 11:21 PM
Contract year. This is where we sign him to a perry contract right before he regresses to the mean.

You're mean! Don't assume the worst about my bestest new buddy!

call_me_ishmael
11-15-2018, 11:30 PM
Contract year. This is where we sign him to a perry contract right before he regresses to the mean.

It's not a contract year for Fackrell.

mraynrand
11-15-2018, 11:31 PM
It's not a contract year for Fackrell.

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bobblehead
11-15-2018, 11:48 PM
It's not a contract year for Fackrell.

For real? It sure seems like he has been failing for 3 years already.

ThunderDan
11-16-2018, 07:24 AM
For real? It sure seems like he has been failing for 3 years already.

He has. He signed a 4 year deal through 2019.

Smidgeon
11-16-2018, 07:50 AM
Is anyone shocked he disappeared against the Lions? Does anyone think he'll get 3 more sacks the rest of the year?

Clearly, yes.

red
11-16-2018, 08:13 AM
So the guy is clearly our best OLB and best pass rusher

Tony Oday
11-16-2018, 08:19 AM
He has. He signed a 4 year deal through 2019.

Extend him for $50 million!!!!

Rutnstrut
11-16-2018, 08:36 AM
Extend him for $50 million!!!!

He's white and not a QB so he will take much less.

Bretsky
11-16-2018, 08:46 AM
I"m waiting for Wist to join this thread; he is silent. I've never been a Fackrell fan; but I'm happy to be wrong and hope I am.

With that being said, I'd staked out my house/yard with all kinds of traps and grenades in case PB shows up on his Anti TJ Watt Agenda :)

run pMc
11-16-2018, 09:03 AM
Clearly, yes.

LOL got me. Consider me pleasantly surprised and eating a bit of crow.

Cheesehead Craig
11-16-2018, 09:06 AM
Who was it in the Seahawks game thread who said that the two best players they have seen in their life were Walter Peyton and Fackrell? That was awesome.

StPaulPackFan
11-16-2018, 09:08 AM
yeah, like on the field

Getting injured is the best thing Perry has done all year. It finally got Fackrell more playing time.

Actually, Perry getting injured is the only thing he's been good at his whole career :-)

beveaux1
11-16-2018, 10:45 AM
I’m trying to think of how many former Packer players had 3 sacks in a game twice in one year. I think the number is very low.

mraynrand
11-16-2018, 11:00 AM
I’m trying to think of how many former Packer players had 3 sacks in a game twice in one year. I think the number is very low.

Reggie! Reggie! Reg!

White had a 2.5 and 3.0 sack performances in 1998

Smidgeon
11-16-2018, 12:40 PM
Reggie! Reggie! Reg!

White had a 2.5 and 3.0 sack performances in 1998

Didn't Clay do it the first two games of his second year? Memory may be sketchy.

gbgary
11-16-2018, 12:45 PM
khalil fackrell

Anti-Polar Bear
11-16-2018, 01:10 PM
He's white and not a QB so he will take much less.

Yes, like Adam Thielen. Diggs received way more frogskins for less productivity.

#=payinthenfl.

pbmax
11-16-2018, 01:30 PM
I"m waiting for Wist to join this thread; he is silent. I've never been a Fackrell fan; but I'm happy to be wrong and hope I am.

With that being said, I'd staked out my house/yard with all kinds of traps and grenades in case PB shows up on his Anti TJ Watt Agenda :)

We are marching in the beautiful autumn weather. Be there in March.

And a reminder to all, this is the Fackrell Rules the World thread, not the Fackrell Still Has Things to Prove thread.

Genuflect!

pbmax
11-16-2018, 01:31 PM
Who was it in the Seahawks game thread who said that the two best players they have seen in their life were Walter Peyton and Fackrell? That was awesome.

Best line of the night.

pbmax
11-16-2018, 01:31 PM
Getting injured is the best thing Perry has done all year. It finally got Fackrell more playing time.

Actually, Perry getting injured is the only thing he's been good at his whole career :-)

I think he and Matthews and Gilbert can man the one OLB spot.

pbmax
11-16-2018, 01:35 PM
Didn't Clay do it the first two games of his second year? Memory may be sketchy.

This only goes back so far, so no Reggie era. But I was giddy none-the-less until #9.



Tack Tack Tack Tack Tack Tack
Rk Player Date Tm Opp Result Week Day Sk Solo Ast Comb TFL QBHits
1 Kyler Fackrell 2018-09-30 GNB BUF W 22-0 4 Sun 3.0 4 0 4 3 3
2 Kyler Fackrell 2018-11-15 GNB SEA L 24-27 11 Thu 3.0 5 1 6 4 4
3 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2001-09-09 GNB DET W 28-6 1 Sun 3.0 3 1 4 2 2
4 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2007-09-30 GNB MIN W 23-16 4 Sun 3.0 3 0 3 1 2
5 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2001-10-07 GNB TAM L 10-14 4 Sun 3.0 3 1 4 2 2
6 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2002-11-04 GNB MIA W 24-10 9 Mon 3.0 5 1 6 3 3
7 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2003-12-22 GNB OAK W 41-7 16 Mon 3.0 4 0 4 3 0
8 Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila 2005-01-02 GNB CHI W 31-14 17 Sun 4.0 6 1 7 3 0
9 A.J. Hawk 2013-10-13 GNB BAL W 19-17 6 Sun 3.0 8 2 10 5 3
10 Vonnie Holliday 2002-12-22 GNB BUF W 10-0 16 Sun 5.0 5 2 7 2 2
11 Cullen Jenkins 2006-12-17 GNB DET W 17-9 15 Sun 3.0 4 1 5 3 5
12 Aaron Kampman 2007-10-29 GNB DEN W 19-13 8 Mon 3.0 3 3 6 3 4
13 Aaron Kampman 2005-11-21 GNB MIN L 17-20 11 Mon 3.0 5 3 8 1 0
14 Aaron Kampman 2006-09-17 GNB NOR L 27-34 2 Sun 3.0 4 0 4 1 1
15 Aaron Kampman 2006-12-21 GNB MIN W 9-7 16 Thu 3.0 6 1 7 3 4
16 Clay Matthews 2010-09-12 GNB PHI W 27-20 1 Sun 3.0 7 0 7 2 3
17 Clay Matthews 2010-09-19 GNB BUF W 34-7 2 Sun 3.0 5 0 5 4 5
18 Clay Matthews 2012-09-13 GNB CHI W 23-10 2 Thu 3.5 4 3 7 3 4
19 Clay Matthews 2017-12-03 GNB TAM W 26-20 13 Sun 3.0 5 2 7 1 4
20 Nick Perry 2017-11-12 GNB CHI W 23-16 10 Sun 3.0 6 0 6 3 3
21 Corey Williams 2006-11-05 GNB BUF L 10-24 9 Sun 3.0 3 1 4 3 3


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Generated 11/16/2018.

texaspackerbacker
11-16-2018, 01:35 PM
I've said all along, Fackrell isn't as bad as the detractors claim. He has the potential to be a quality NFL OLB - but he still has to prove it a few more times.

mraynrand
11-19-2018, 08:46 PM
Hope Fackrell is watching A.D. tonight. Needs to add that strip move to his vast repertoire of pass rush moves.

pbmax
11-19-2018, 08:49 PM
Hope Fackrell is watching A.D. tonight. Needs to add that strip move to his vast repertoire of pass rush moves.

Let's not be greedy. I'll take 3 good games in a row. Maybe a great play like catching Russell Wilson scooting out of the pocket.

mraynrand
11-19-2018, 09:24 PM
Let's not be greedy. I'll take 3 good games in a row. Maybe a great play like catching Russell Wilson scooting out of the pocket.

If Fackrell is gonna rule the world, his learning curve needs to be steeper.