The Official Pack-St. Louis Rams of LA Discussion Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Pack fans, it is time to buy your tickets, book your hotel rooms and get your fire ready, cos, Atlanta here comes the Pack!

Packers are gonna upset the damn Rams, and with the victory, the Pack’s confidence will soar higher than that of a burger-flipping loser who had just “mated” with a hot chick of African ancestry. Sometimes a boost of confidence is all it takes to motivate a downtrodden lad to take up arms and seek glory. In the Packers’ case, a boost of confidence could propel the Packers all the way to Atlanta.

The march to the lost city of Atlanta begins this week. Power to the Packers!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Expect Jimmy G to light up the Colosseum. Rams suck at covering TEs, especially with their ‘backers. If the Son of Bum plays nickel and dime all day, I fucking hope Pack DONT try that smash mouth shit. Pack just ain’t built to grind through black holes and brick walls.

Air it out all day. Great Arm of Butte will be awesomely sharpe, as he refuses to be overshadowed by that other Cal QB.

Gurley is that white dwarf in the sky that gives life to the Rams’ potent offense. He’s damn good.

[texaspackerbacker]

Now THAT'S fandom hahahahaha - and to think some people call you ....... whatever it is they call you, Tank.

You're on target tactics-wise also. Unleash Rodgers and outscore 'em.

[wist43]

Well, let me bring you dreamers back to earth...

Rams 38 Packers 20

The line is 8.5... I'll be shocked if Packers cover.

[mraynrand]

Well, let me bring you dreamers back to earth...

Rams 38 Packers 20

The line is 8.5... I'll be shocked if Packers cover.

Hahahahaha. You think they'll score 20? You homers are pathetic.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Well, let me bring you dreamers back to earth...

Rams 38 Packers 20

The line is 8.5... I'll be shocked if Packers cover.

The Dreamers, starring the beauteous Eva Green, is an awesome flick. It’s about 3 college aged youths who, while fighting the good far left fight, becomes distracted by coitus. Check it out.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Any Tedophille (staunch Todd fan) who thinks free agency and trades only work in New England needs to take a hard look at the damn Rams’ roster.

Btw, the goddamn Eagles also subscribe to Belichickism - they’re the defending champ.

Belichickism > Polar Bearism

[ThunderDan]

Any Tedophille (staunch Todd fan) who thinks free agency and trades only work in New England needs to take a hard look at the damn Rams’ roster.

Btw, the goddamn Eagles also subscribe to Belichickism - they’re the defending champ.

Belichickism > Polar Bearism


Of course the Eagles have already lost more games in 2018 then 2017.

Free agency is fine but you aren't going to be able to build your team long-term that way. You can't afford having 3 contracts like ARods or Macks or Brady on a team. There will not be enough room to sign anyone else or sign your own that is good to a decent 2nd contract.

You need to hit your draft and fill in a few spots with FA. You aren't going to find a Mack in FA except in extremely rare instances (like a new coach who thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the world trading away his stud outside pass rusher).

[ThunderDan]

Just typing the above makes me realize Oakland should have fired Gruden before the season for not making sure Mack was extended.

[mraynrand]

Just typing the above makes me realize Oakland should have fired Gruden before the season for not making sure Mack was extended.

that would have been awesome.

[mraynrand]

Any Tedophille (staunch Todd fan) who thinks free agency and trades only work in New England needs to take a hard look at the damn Rams’ roster.

Btw, the goddamn Eagles also subscribe to Belichickism - they’re the defending champ.

Belichickism > Polar Bearism

We could use a Woodson, Pickett, and Green right about now.

[mraynrand]

Of course the Eagles have already lost more games in 2018 then 2017.

Free agency is fine but you aren't going to be able to build your team long-term that way. You can't afford having 3 contracts like ARods or Macks or Brady on a team. There will not be enough room to sign anyone else or sign your own that is good to a decent 2nd contract.

You need to hit your draft and fill in a few spots with FA. You aren't going to find a Mack in FA except in extremely rare instances (like a new coach who thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the world trading away his stud outside pass rusher).

Good points. You're never gonna rake in enough cash off that sledding hill to pay several huge contracts. Kids have money these days, but not that much.

[Joemailman]

Almost a national game. Thom Brennaman and Troy Aikman with the call.

http://506sports.com/2018/08-FOX-L-V3.png

[ThunderDan]

Almost a national game. Thom Brennaman and Troy Aikman with the call.

http://506sports.com/2018/08-FOX-L-V3.png

There are only 3 3:00+ pm starts this week and 2 NFC games. When your choice is LAR/GBP or ARI/SF you are going to get 95% LAR/GBP coverage.

[Tony Oday]

We could use a Woodson, Pickett, and Green right about now.

I think they are retired.

[Rutnstrut]

Packers lose and look bad doing it. Stubby will be outcoached yet again.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Of course the Eagles have already lost more games in 2018 then 2017.

Free agency is fine but you aren't going to be able to build your team long-term that way. You can't afford having 3 contracts like ARods or Macks or Brady on a team. There will not be enough room to sign anyone else or sign your own that is good to a decent 2nd contract.

You need to hit your draft and fill in a few spots with FA. You aren't going to find a Mack in FA except in extremely rare instances (like a new coach who thinks he is smarter than everyone else in the world trading away his stud outside pass rusher).

It’s a “not for long” league. Win now or get fired. There’s no such thing as a long term plan in the Not For Long league.

Gotta utilize ALL aspects of the game - draft, free agency and trade - competently and frequently. Belichick is living proof that Belichickism works.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Good points. You're never gonna rake in enough cash off that sledding hill to pay several huge contracts. Kids have money these days, but not that much.

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

[Tony Oday]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

You are literally too dumb to insult.

[mraynrand]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

IOW, you're in favor of de-regulation. :)

[3irty1]

Wrong. Money is not an issue. The capitalist pig owners have plenty of frogskins, especially with titanic TV contracts and sumptuous licensing revenues. The question is, are the pig owners willing to share more “wealth” with the players?

With Marxist revenue sharing and 300 million frogskins sitting in a bank earning interest faster than the speed of light, it was feasible for the Packers to sign both A-Rod and Mack to titanic contacts. German Shepherd obviously fucked up the Mack ordeal. (Don’t give me the shit about needing to save “rainy day” cash for stadium upgrades. Next time the Pack “want” a new stadium, they’re gonna do what all the other teams with their greed-fucked pigs do: ask the public to pay for it, again.)

The salary cap is irrelevant. Cap can always be cooked. Besides, the pig owners are all for a cap - it provides them with an excuse to trim labor expenses.

White hot take.

[ThunderDan]

Good points. You're never gonna rake in enough cash off that sledding hill to pay several huge contracts. Kids have money these days, but not that much.

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

[beveaux1]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

There's a reason teams fill up rosters with young players on their first contract or those who were undrafted free agents. They just can't afford 5 to 8 year veterans who are not difference-makers.

Filler players on the roster are raw kids and that is the main reason depth is crappy. Lose a top starter and the season could be over.

[Fosco33]

A game we should lose quite easily.

So maybe we’ll actually win one. If we do - I’ll book a flight to NE and watch Brady/Rodgers

[mraynrand]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap....etc

ya I'm in agreement. (The sledding hill was just a wise-crack)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I'm not even talking about cash flow. I am talking about the cap.
The Packers cap in 2018 is $177,000,000 plus $3.9M rolled from 2017. Total cap space a little over $181M.

ARod counts $20M, Mack costs $13.8M, Julio Jones costs $13M. For 3 super stars you are taking up 25.9% of your cap. Between IR, dead money from contacts (Nelson and Bennett) and practice squad that is another $19.4M.
In this hypothetical you would have $115M left to sign 50 players.

Look at what the Packers have left getting rid of Cobb and Clay's contracts for Mack and Jones:
Bacteria - $11M, Perry - $10.7M, Adams - $10.5M, Daniels - $9.8M, Bulaga - $7.9M, Clinton-Dix - $6M, Graham - $5.9M, Crosby $5.2M

Those 8 players eat up another $67M. That leaves $48M to sign 42 players and we aren't even paying a CB on our roster over $4M.

That means you have on average $1.1M to spend on every other player for your bottom 42.

You can only sign so many mid-level free agents and not have street FAs all over your roster. It just isn't possible.

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

[ThunderDan]

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

Tired, overused and bland. Your schtick is boring and lame.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tired, overused and bland. Your schtick is boring and lame.

Yet, you can't debunk it. Just admit it: Polar Bearism (draft and develop) is the reason Rodgers (and Favre) is only wearing a fluky ring.

[mraynrand]

Yet, you can't debunk it. Just admit it: Polar Bearism (draft and develop) is the reason Rodgers (and Favre) is only wearing a fluky ring.

Hard to support that, because Cheat is the only guy really to properly employ Belichickism. No other team since the Cowboys has been able to get three championships; of the five (I think it's five - Denver, Tampa, Pitt, Balt, Giants) teams that have 2, 3, had pretty different team compositions each time. It's just really hard to repeat, even with, and maybe in part because of exceptional QBs, in this era of extreme NFL socialism.

[3irty1]

It definitely doesn't hurt to be in the AFC.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Hard to support that, because Cheat is the only guy really to properly employ Belichickism. No other team since the Cowboys has been able to get three championships; of the five (I think it's five - Denver, Tampa, Pitt, Balt, Giants) teams that have 2, 3, had pretty different team compositions each time. It's just really hard to repeat, even with, and maybe in part because of exceptional QBs, in this era of extreme NFL socialism.

Belichickism does allow Cinderallas to have their days (see balding eagles last season with foles), but mostly, it is favorable to the team with a “12” on its roster. Just to be clear, I ain’t talking about any wanker wearing #12. Talking about the team with a Brady-elite QB.

Packers have a 12. Todd was mother of incompetence with that draft and development bullshit.

[mraynrand]

Todd was mother of incompetence with that draft and development bullshit.

If Ted was the worst, then where do you rank Michael Lombardi

[Cheesehead Craig]

Cook. The. Cap.

Rodgers’ contract could’ve been structured to count only, say, $10 M against the cap this year. Mack, $5 M.

Yes, you’re “backloading” the contracts, and who knows, in a couple of the years, hopefully, the capitalist economy could completely tank into the abyss of oblivion due to a full-scale world-wide rebellion. But alas, the math says that in the next decade or so, the fat pigs will only get fatter.

Cap hell? The shit doesn’t exists anymore. In the near future, the math says, teams will still be bailed out by the networks...in addition to the internet.

As a wise man once said, the cap serves no purpose nowadays, but as an excuse for the pigs to cut labor expenses. Think Jerry Jones gives a fuck that Dez is counting $10 M or whatever in dead money against the Cowboys’ cap? Nada. Jones is totally aroused in that he’s not paying Dez $15 M this season.

Rodgers and Mack is easily debunkable.

Mack wanted to be the highest paid defensive player. His current contract counted $13M on the cap and you think he's going to take a pay cut on the richest deal for a defensive player? Laughable.

Same with Rodgers. His SB is $11M, add in the massive roster bonuses and there's no way to have him only count $10M towards the cap. Heck, the roster bonuses are protecting the team in the short term from him having a career threatening injury.

You think a player is going to sign a back-loaded deal anymore? Hell no, they know they can be cut at any time or their career is over on the next snap due to injury. They want their money upfront and as quickly as possible. It's disregarding reality to think otherwise.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Rodgers and Mack is easily debunkable.

Mack wanted to be the highest paid defensive player. His current contract counted $13M on the cap and you think he's going to take a pay cut on the richest deal for a defensive player? Laughable.

Same with Rodgers. His SB is $11M, add in the massive roster bonuses and there's no way to have him only count $10M towards the cap. Heck, the roster bonuses are protecting the team in the short term from him having a career threatening injury.

You think a player is going to sign a back-loaded deal anymore? Hell no, they know they can be cut at any time or their career is over on the next snap due to injury. They want their money upfront and as quickly as possible. It's disregarding reality to think otherwise.

The salary cap is just an accounting item, and all accounting items can be cooked. There are at least a dozen ways to cook Rodgers’ recent contract.

Backloading a contract with respect to the cap is just diverting titanic cap hits to the back end of the contract, which the networks and internet will bail out. It doesn’t matter to Rodgers if his cap hit this year is $10 m or $100 m, he’s still getting every penny of the guaranteed frogskins on his contract.

The Packers certainly have the frogskins to make Rodgers the highest paid O-player AND Mack the highest paid D-player. The cap is irrelevant.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If Ted was the worst, then where do you rank Michael Lombardi

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

[mraynrand]

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

strong GM moves!

[pbmax]

The cap is irrelevant.

Yes that is why Belichick kept convincing Brady to sign below market deals.

That is why teams with low cost quality QB staters suddenly get good.

That is why the Cowboys blew up their very good defense of a few years ago AND let go of Romo.

All cap dollars come to term in five years max. You can miss one major deal and live with it for two years. You miss two and it’s lights out.

[mraynrand]

If Lombardi had a 12, he would never hibernate in a closet season after season like Todd did. Lombardi woulda acquired Beast Mode, Tony Gonzalez, Kap and a lotta other hotshot vets of NFL wars.

You should blame extreme NFL socialism. Why should competent franchises be burdened with drafting at the bottom of every round?

[Vincenzo]

It’s gonna be like a Donkey vs a Racehorse!

[mraynrand]

It’s gonna be like a Donkey vs a Racehorse!

Don't be an ass!

[Tony Oday]

Anti is literally too dumb to argue against.

[ThunderDan]

Anti is literally too dumb to argue against.

But I am sure he has won the Super Bowl 5 years in a row playing Madden in his mother’s basement.