Hypothetical Next Coach of the Green Bay Packers

[pbmax]

There are connections between Stoops and Ohio State. The family is from Youngstown I think. McCarthy's connection to the Browns front office are obvious.

Not sure if Meyer knows anyone in the Packers org.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd rather force myself to change my opinion of Meyers hahahahaha or Harbaugh or Saban or several others mentioned I don't much care for if the Packers hired them.

[mraynrand]

I may have to find a new team if they hire Meyer

I'd be OK with Lane Meyer, the Kid from Green Bay:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuFZE8lxZ5g

[esoxx]

https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/1056957424844857344



LOL, god I hope not. The latter two are probably happening though. Urban is probably headed to USC next year.

They already named Ryan Day to replace Meyer.

This is typical Internet gibberish and rumormongering.

[mraynrand]

This is typical Internet gibberish and rumormongering.

That's why we're here!

[pbmax]

I'd be OK with Lane Meyer, the Kid from Green Bay:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuFZE8lxZ5g


I want the kids doing the racing commentary/driving to broadcast Packer games and just troll one player each game.

[call_me_ishmael]

They already named Ryan Day to replace Meyer.

This is typical Internet gibberish and rumormongering.

You really think Ryan freaking Day is going to be the coach of a top 5 football program? What has he done to earn it? I would be shocked if within 400 days from now they do not have Stoops as the coach.

The post from Barstool Big Cat is a said jokingly. THere's a zero percent chance Urban ends up here. Just look at his rapsheet. Nope.

[esoxx]

You really think Ryan freaking Day is going to be the coach of a top 5 football program? What has he done to earn it? I would be shocked if within 400 days from now they do not have Stoops as the coach.



Yes I do, open your mind a bit. Not sure why Ohio State signed him to a $22.5 million five year deal if they didn't believe he was their guy. I don't doubt he will succeed.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/12/5/18125491/ryan-day-ohio-state-head-coach-offense

[call_me_ishmael]

Yes I do, open your mind a bit. Not sure why Ohio State signed him to a $22.5 million five year deal if they didn't believe he was their guy. I don't doubt he will succeed.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/12/5/18125491/ryan-day-ohio-state-head-coach-offense

Okay, fair enough, I stand corrected. You're right.

[mraynrand]

Okay, fair enough, I stand corrected. You're right.

That's good. You've taken your first step into a larger world.

[Joemailman]

A name I hadn't heard before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/a3e6pt/todd_monken_for_hc/


Todd Monken for HC
No one ever talks about Todd Monken, the Tampa bay OC, but i would give him a look for HC. He was the OC at Oklahoma State when they would put up 60 a game, he turned southern miss around as HC from 0-12 to bowl eligible in his final season with them, and although the Bucs suck...that offense always hums. It doesn’t matter if it’s Jameis or Fitzpatrick in there. I think he is a dark horse that could help Green Bay. I’d love to see him run the offense as HC, and have Pettine stay on with the Defense. Thoughts?

The sexy names of mcdaniels and Deflippo just aren’t exciting me very much.

[Smidgeon]

A name I hadn't heard before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/a3e6pt/todd_monken_for_hc/

And I've got my clubhouse leader for the next HC.

[Pugger]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/packers-search-for-their-next-head-coach-should-start-with-northwesterns-pat-fitzgerald/amp/

[pbmax]

We've got Todd Monken somewhere else on this site. He's been mentioned before.

Would approve.

[pbmax]

Rut and I agree. Must be fate: http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?30571-Are-the-Bucs-for-real&p=986994&viewfull=1#post986994

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?30572-Packers-vs-Redskins-Discussion-Thread&p=986213&highlight=monken#post986213

[call_me_ishmael]

I get more and more convinced every day that Harbaugh will be our next coach. If that happens, I would view it as an absolute home run. Top tier success consistently every where he has been.

What coordinator wouldn't want to coach with him? I bet they end up with some great coordinators.

Hard to argue with this, too. Cris Carter had great sources on the Kawhi thing so I don't doubt him here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaRVYUhXSU

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Hire Harbaugh only if he can convince Gutekunst and Murphy to sign Kap.

[ThunderDan]

If Harbaugh, the jackass not the Balt coach, is hired by the Packers I will start selling my tickets on StubHub. Can't stand the guy and don't want him anywhere near the Green Bay franchise.

[bobblehead]

Do you really trust McDaniels after Denver and blowing off the Colts last year? I'd almost rather have anyone but Meyer than him.

I do. He has evolved his offense over the years and continued to put good product on the field. The Denver thing was bad cuz he was GM and bought into himself a bit much (was 32 years old). I would like the whole story on Indy...we aren't getting it.

[bobblehead]

Okay, fair enough, I stand corrected. You're right.

I point out that 52 million have died due to gun control and you can't see the logic, but this convinces you? WTF!!

[call_me_ishmael]

I point out that 52 million have died due to gun control and you can't see the logic, but this convinces you? WTF!!

1. You don't provide citations or evidence.
2. You don't live in a world of facts
3. You're radicalized
4. You prefer the dopamine rush from validating your opinions with biased opinions instead of challenging your opinions with unbiased facts.
5. You express your opinion poorly. It's overly complicated filled with half-truths and incomplete thoughts. If you want someone to take your opinion seriously, make it easy for someone to understand and empathize. The counterpoint to this is no one has the time to read a 3irty1 style novel. Ain't nobody got time for that. Being concise is an art.

A 5 year contract is a 5 year contract. It's pretty cut and dry. There's no grey area. OSU gave the dude a 5 year contract.

[call_me_ishmael]

If Harbaugh, the jackass not the Balt coach, is hired by the Packers I will start selling my tickets on StubHub. Can't stand the guy and don't want him anywhere near the Green Bay franchise.

Why? I would understand this take if it was a legitimately bad person like Urb, but to my knowledge Jimmy seems like an alright dude.

[Fritz]

I get more and more convinced every day that Harbaugh will be our next coach. If that happens, I would view it as an absolute home run. Top tier success consistently every where he has been.

What coordinator wouldn't want to coach with him? I bet they end up with some great coordinators.

Hard to argue with this, too. Cris Carter had great sources on the Kawhi thing so I don't doubt him here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaRVYUhXSU

Top tier success? Dude's been at Michigan for four years now, has all his own recruits, consistently gets top marks for having some of the best recruiting classes in the country - yet the previous joke of a coach, Brady Hoke, has a better record against Ohio State than Harbaugh does. And Harbaugh makes about eight million more a year than Hoke did.

Jim Harbaugh has beaten Michigan State as many times as Brady Hoke has.

Harbaugh is way, way, way overrated.

Remember what Nancy Reagan says: Just say no to Jim Harbaugh.

Or John Harbaugh, for that matter.

Let's got with this Monken guy. What the hell? I'd like to see Rodgers run the Statue of Liberty play a few times.

[call_me_ishmael]

Top tier success? Dude's been at Michigan for four years now, has all his own recruits, consistently gets top marks for having some of the best recruiting classes in the country - yet the previous joke of a coach, Brady Hoke, has a better record against Ohio State than Harbaugh does. And Harbaugh makes about eight million more a year than Hoke did.

He puts a top 10 team on the field every year in college at both Stanford and Michigan. Consistently was elite in the NFL too.


Jim Harbaugh has beaten Michigan State as many times as Brady Hoke has.

Harbaugh is way, way, way overrated.

Remember what Nancy Reagan says: Just say no to Jim Harbaugh.

Or John Harbaugh, for that matter.

Let's got with this Monken guy. What the hell? I'd like to see Rodgers run the Statue of Liberty play a few times.

Not saying he beats the great teams consistently, but his aggregated record over time is impressive. I wish he'd beat OSU as I hate Urb.

[denverYooper]

Count me in for Monken mania.

[The Shadow]

Vic Fangio & a young, up & coming coach to handle OC (or someone like Carmicheal from NO - if you make him asst. head coach).

[denverYooper]

Vic Fangio & a young, up & coming coach to handle OC (or someone like Carmicheal from NO - if you make him asst. head coach).

Only worry I'd have with the Saints OC is that it would be like hiring Joe Philbin or Ben McAdoo, though it helps to have Rodgers at QB.

[ThunderDan]

He puts a top 10 team on the field every year in college at both Stanford and Michigan.

So 8-5 last year with a loss to South Carolina in the Outback Bowl is top 10 now. :whaa:

[call_me_ishmael]

So 8-5 last year with a loss to South Carolina in the Outback Bowl is top 10 now. :whaa:

Disappointing season for sure. I can’t think of another under achieving season like that. The last year in SF was just chaos so I don’t count it.

[Fosco33]

Please God, nobody named Harbaugh. No college coaches. Pluck some assistant from another team, some Lombardi-ish Holmgren-ish McCarthy-ish guy, and let's roll. Gute seems capable of providing the talent.

Bieniemy or Zac Taylor and keep Pettine.

[pbmax]

I get more and more convinced every day that Harbaugh will be our next coach. If that happens, I would view it as an absolute home run. Top tier success consistently every where he has been.

What coordinator wouldn't want to coach with him? I bet they end up with some great coordinators.

Hard to argue with this, too. Cris Carter had great sources on the Kawhi thing so I don't doubt him here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CaRVYUhXSU

He has yet to win his Division or beat Ohio State. his biggest accomplishment is maybe winning the state battle for recruits versus Michigan St.

[call_me_ishmael]

He has yet to win his Division or beat Ohio State. his biggest accomplishment is maybe winning the state battle for recruits versus Michigan St.

Well, to be fair, he's playing in the conference with Ohio State. Ohio State is like Alabama or Clemson, just a different level from everybody else. Until he can out recruit OSU, he probably won't beat 'em.

That said, I like him. Feel free to disagree.

[pbmax]

Vic Fangio & a young, up & coming coach to handle OC (or someone like Carmicheal from NO - if you make him asst. head coach).

I'd take Fangio with Monken. Koetter is an offensive side coach and maybe he would want to run his own offense under a former DC?

The only problem with Monken is that his big credo is creating big plays. I hope he doesn't do that on 3rd and 1.

[Bretsky]

I'd take Fangio with Monken. Koetter is an offensive side coach and maybe he would want to run his own offense under a former DC?

The only problem with Monken is that his big credo is creating big plays. I hope he doesn't do that on 3rd and 1.


YOU GUYS ARE PIPE DREAMING NOW. You can't choose two

We need a strong willed OC who has the ability to be creative and design an offense tailored to the players needs. And then review and modify the offense based on personnel or as needed.

While it would be fun to steal Fango from the Bears (AFTER he basically turned the GB DC job down to go back to the Bears), you can't choose your OC to make a case for a coach that doesn't really fit what we are looking for.


HG2 is our answer if he wants the job and that is a big if cause he's going to be the next Head Coach at NE after Hoody Genius leaves.

We don't know what went on with Indy and there may be way more to the story than we know.

And IMO we could do a lot worse than Harbaugh as well.

[Bretsky]

Bieniemy or Zac Taylor and keep Pettine.


If they interview well I think I'd also be ok with either of these.

[call_me_ishmael]

I don't know anything about this dude, but tell me he doesn't look the part. This dude looks like a Packer's coach for sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Daboll

[pbmax]

Bucky Brooks @BuckyBrooks
At a time when everyone is looking for a young offensive guru to be a head coach, I would encourage owners and execs to look at Kris Richard as an option. Smart, detailed, creative and adaptable. Plus, he’s a strong leader, teacher & communicator. KR is legit. Ask @dallascowboys

Here is your available DC as Head Coach guy. Then let the OC run the offense.

[pbmax]

This is damn depressing.

MyBookie Sportsbook @betmybookie
http://MyBookie.ag odds for the next Green Bay Packers head coach (Not Interim)

Pat Fitzgerald +600
Josh McDaniel +600
Zac Taylor +1000
Brian Daboll +1000
John Harbaugh +1200
Jim Harbaugh +1400
David Shaw +1600
Field -300

[Bretsky]

This is damn depressing.

MyBookie Sportsbook @betmybookie
http://MyBookie.ag odds for the next Green Bay Packers head coach (Not Interim)

Pat Fitzgerald +600
Josh McDaniel +600
Zac Taylor +1000
Brian Daboll +1000
John Harbaugh +1200
Jim Harbaugh +1400
David Shaw +1600
Field -300


Pat Fitzgerald would be laughable

[mraynrand]

Pat Fitzgerald would be laughable

QFT

[Fosco33]

This is damn depressing.

MyBookie Sportsbook @betmybookie
http://MyBookie.ag odds for the next Green Bay Packers head coach (Not Interim)

Pat Fitzgerald +600
Josh McDaniel +600
Zac Taylor +1000
Brian Daboll +1000
John Harbaugh +1200
Jim Harbaugh +1400
David Shaw +1600
Field -300

Can I grab zackspackattack.com - or the ‘we’ll be fine with Devine’ style bumper sticker?

[Pugger]

This is damn depressing.

MyBookie Sportsbook @betmybookie
http://MyBookie.ag odds for the next Green Bay Packers head coach (Not Interim)

Pat Fitzgerald +600
Josh McDaniel +600
Zac Taylor +1000
Brian Daboll +1000
John Harbaugh +1200
Jim Harbaugh +1400
David Shaw +1600
Field -300

It wouldn't surprise me if none of these guys end up as our next HC.

[Bretsky]

It wouldn't surprise me if none of these guys end up as our next HC.

There are a whole bunch of OC's not on that list that I think we'd be kicking the tired on...aka....Chiefs/Titans/Queens/Saints

[Fritz]

Pat Fitzgerald would be laughable


I don't know anything about the guy except he seems to put a good product on the field. Can you tell me about him?

And why would he be a favorite? Did Murphy hire him somewhere?

[mraynrand]

Pat Fitzgerald would be laughable

They might bring him in just because of his familiarity with Lowry, Ibraheim Campbell, and Dan Vitale. Probably coach those guys into the pro bowl...

[pbmax]

I don't know anything about the guy except he seems to put a good product on the field. Can you tell me about him?

And why would he be a favorite? Did Murphy hire him somewhere?

The national press has talked themselves into believing that Murphy's time at Colgate and Northwestern mean he would favor a college coach. He was there when they hired Fitzgerald I believe.

And Gutekunst was a college scout. So college, college, college, college, college.

[Joemailman]

Mike P reiterates he doesn't want to be MM's replacement.

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/mike-pettine-doesn-t-want-to-be-a-head-coach/article_9d89a105-5671-54d9-8af9-b9fadab3f2c7.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share


“Despite the struggles we’ve had this year, this is probably the most fun I’ve had coaching in a long time,” Pettine said as the Packers (4-7-1) prepared to face the equally disappointing Atlanta Falcons (4-8) at Lambeau Field on Sunday. “And it just validated for me what I truly missed was the interaction in the staff room on a day-to-day basis, building a plan and then just the day-to-day with the players, (which) you really kind of miss out on that as the head coach.”

[Fritz]

Could they manage a Fangio situation in which they keep Pettine and hire a young hotshot O coordinator who would appreciate Pettine's experience?

Please no college coaches, though. Please. Especially Jim Harbaugh.

Harbaugh makes 9 mill a year - and they're not paying him to produce outstanding scholar-athletes. They're paying him to beat Ohio State and Michigan State. He has a .500 record against MSU, and he can't beat OSU. Guy has not even won a single Big Ten title, and his offense is mostly three-yards-and-a-clud-of-dust, and you think he's some offensive mastermind who will get the Packers to the SB, Ishmael? I don't get it at all.

Let's find some young Mike Holmgren type, some young Vince Lombardi type. Where's the new Sean Payton? Or did they all get taken last year and the year before?

[pbmax]

Mike P reiterates he doesn't want to be MM's replacement.

https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/mike-pettine-doesn-t-want-to-be-a-head-coach/article_9d89a105-5671-54d9-8af9-b9fadab3f2c7.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

The whole article is good plus bonus Mike Sherman content from Wilde here just for Tank: https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/what-s-it-like-be-fired-as-the-packers-coach/article_44baf5ea-670e-538c-bc86-54b6366f03cd.html

Very nice story from Sherman about why you might leave the area quickly, as its even more awkward for your family than for you. McCarthy has two kids in high school and two in elementary.

[Pugger]

I don't know anything about the guy except he seems to put a good product on the field. Can you tell me about him?

And why would he be a favorite? Did Murphy hire him somewhere?

He is the HC at Northwestern and I believe Murphy hired him. He has his team playing well. They won the B1G West. Northwestern is a small school in that conference and they have high admission standards so they have a hard time competing against the other schools in that conference. If he can get those kids to play that well you have to think he can get our guys to play better too. This is his alma mater so he might want to stay where he is.

[Joemailman]

Fitz just signed a 10 year contract extension in 2017. Northwestern is due to open a brand new football stadium next year. He's a lifelong Bears fan. I don't think he's going anywhere.

[texaspackerbacker]

Until now, I haven't had a clear top choice - just several mentioned that I absolutely did not want. That may have changed today, though.

What I want more than anything else is a coach who will pass pass pass - run only as a change of pace or when the game is in hand and you're running out the clock. What I also want is a coach who will not stupidly try to change or rein in Aaron Rodgers - let's play the whole game the way the Packers have done so well in 4th quarters when things got desperate, and they just put things in Rodgers' hands.

Who fits those things better than anybody else I've seen so far? Joe Philbin.

[pbmax]

Harbaugh says he ain't leaving.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1071803657593765893

[Bretsky]

Harbaugh says he ain't leaving.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1071803657593765893


What else would he say ?

[mraynrand]

What else would he say ?

What do he supposed to say?

[Fritz]

Harbaugh says he ain't leaving.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1071803657593765893


If he leaves Michigan, I won't care, as long as he doesn't come to Green Bay.

I've lost my taste for the college game, as it's just about who can cheat the best (ie, the most without getting caught), so I don't care that much about Harbaugh staying or leaving Michigan. In my book, everybody and his brother knows why Harbaugh's getting nine million a year, and it ain't to produce fine young scholar-athletes. Yet he hasn't beaten OSU, period. Hasn't played for the Big Ten title yet, much less for a national championship. But again, if he stays at Michigan and they're dumb enough to pay him that much for beating up on the Indianas and Rutgerses of the world, fine. No problem.

But please god not to Green Bay.

As for Tex's preference, I suppose I could see the appeal - the system's already in place, no new big learning curve for the offense, maybe they could compete sooner. But that argument assumes that the falling apart of the offense was a personality problem - as in Mike McCarthy's personality. And I don't think that's quite the whole issue.

[texaspackerbacker]

Fritz, I don't see Philbin as just a continuation of McCarthy's system, strategically anyway - if Sunday's game is any indication at least. McCarthy seemed to be drifting in the wind with regard to all the noise about running the ball more and/or reining in Aaron Rodgers. Philbin clearly didn't do either of those stupid things in his first game. THAT is what I like about him - assuming he would not deviate and succumb to the stupidity being spewed by some people.

[Teamcheez1]

Fritz, I don't see Philbin as just a continuation of McCarthy's system, strategically anyway - if Sunday's game is any indication at least. McCarthy seemed to be drifting in the wind with regard to all the noise about running the ball more and/or reining in Aaron Rodgers. Philbin clearly didn't do either of those stupid things in his first game. THAT is what I like about him - assuming he would not deviate and succumb to the stupidity being spewed by some people.

The unknown with Philbin is what would his playbook look like if under his control. All I see him doing the rest of this season is choosing plays on MM's sheet. I can't get much of a read from that. I really don't want Philbin as the next coach anyway.

[pbmax]

Fritz, I don't see Philbin as just a continuation of McCarthy's system, strategically anyway - if Sunday's game is any indication at least. McCarthy seemed to be drifting in the wind with regard to all the noise about running the ball more and/or reining in Aaron Rodgers. Philbin clearly didn't do either of those stupid things in his first game. THAT is what I like about him - assuming he would not deviate and succumb to the stupidity being spewed by some people.

Packers versus Falcons

Passes 33
Runs 20 (ignoring Kizer's kneel and Rodgers scramble)
Ratio: 1.65:1

McCarthy Rest of Season
Passes 469
Runs 226
Ratio: 2.07:1

CONCLUSION: PHILBIN LOVES THE RUN MORE THAN McCARTHY

[mraynrand]

Packers versus Falcons

Passes 33
Runs 20 (ignoring Kizer's kneel and Rodgers scramble)
Ratio: 1.65:1

McCarthy Rest of Season
Passes 469
Runs 226
Ratio: 2.07:1

CONCLUSION: PHILBIN LOVES THE RUN MORE THAN McCARTHY

looks like he succumbed to spewed stupidity!

[pbmax]

To be fair, the game script for the Packers included a lead starting in the 2nd quarter. So perhaps we'll see if they are tempted to abandon it when behind.

[The Shadow]

I do not want the Vikings OC. No,no,no.

[Fritz]

I do not want the Vikings OC. No,no,no.

As Amy Winehouse would say, the Packers wanna hire DeFillipo, but Shadow say no, no, no.

[Rastak]

As Amy Winehouse would say, the Packers wanna hire DeFillipo, but Shadow say no, no, no.


Lol, I love that tune.

Was it Bretsky that wanted DeFilipo? Hell, you can hire him this afternoon now if you want....

[mraynrand]

Was it Bretsky that wanted DeFilipo? Hell, you can hire him this afternoon now if you want....

A lot of people say this after playing in Seattle.

[run pMc]

Vikings OC relieved of duty an hour ago. Do NOT want.

[mraynrand]

Vikings OC relieved of duty an hour ago. Do NOT want.

ouch. How are those book sales? PBmax, is your book signed by the author?

[call_me_ishmael]

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/11/mike-mccarthy-green-bay-packers-hired-fired-andrew-brandt


Packers president Mark Murphy talked about giving Mike an opportunity to get an early jump on the market, as well as the embarrassing loss to the Cardinals at home. While all of those were certainly factors, and I know Murphy well and like him, I’m not buying it.

My sense is that the Packers have their eye on a candidate that they wanted to contact now, someone not currently working for an NFL team, rather than having to wait until January. Absent a candidate outside the league, why make this move now to simply interview NFL candidates under contract until after the season? I believe they did not want to reach out to a candidate while Mike had the position. I do not know who that candidate might be, but it’s likely a college coach who has time to interview before heavy bowl game/college playoff preparation begins in a week or so.

I tend to agree. I sincerely hope it is the Michigan man, and not Pat Fitzgerald.

Can't embed times, but go to 1:51.

https://youtu.be/e-tud34Njzg?t=111

[pbmax]

ouch. How are those book sales? PBmax, is your book signed by the author?

I think I have to take that off a christmas list.

[pbmax]

That is one of Brandt's better columns. I hope anecdote about adjusting the player roster bonus to include the offseason workouts is true. Its a nice angle and I bet McCarthy found it helpful.

Just not sure he has a strong bead on this. It might be a college coach they want, but having first shot at interviewing them doesn't mean its locked in.

If the Packers win out (no guarantee) its a 500 team. I bet Gute sees the roster as at least that good and not at all on the same level as the Cardinals. I think that is a pretty direct cause here.

[Fritz]

[QUOTE=call_me_ishmael;998060]https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/11/mike-mccarthy-green-bay-packers-hired-fired-andrew-brandt



I tend to agree. I sincerely hope it is the Michigan man, and not Pat Fitzgerald.



"Packers president Mark Murphy talked about giving Mike an opportunity to get an early jump on the market, as well as the embarrassing loss to the Cardinals at home. While all of those were certainly factors, and I know Murphy well and like him, I’m not buying it.

My sense is that the Packers have their eye on a candidate that they wanted to contact now, someone not currently working for an NFL team, rather than having to wait until January. Absent a candidate outside the league, why make this move now to simply interview NFL candidates under contract until after the season? I believe they did not want to reach out to a candidate while Mike had the position. I do not know who that candidate might be, but it’s likely a college coach who has time to interview before heavy bowl game/college playoff preparation begins in a week or so."

Because everyone in the league bends the rules and through intermediaries contact the assistant coach or coaches they're interested in. Those coaches respond, and often "agreements" are reached, long before that assistant's season is over.

Everybody and his brother knew Mike Holmgren was leaving Green Bay for Seattle, long before that last game of the season was played. And that's just one instance.

[mraynrand]

I'm confused. Is Murphy interviewing Mike Tyson?

[Pugger]

DeFilippo just got fired in MN so I don't know if I'd want him as HC but perhaps QB coach?

[texaspackerbacker]

Packers versus Falcons

Passes 33
Runs 20 (ignoring Kizer's kneel and Rodgers scramble)
Ratio: 1.65:1

McCarthy Rest of Season
Passes 469
Runs 226
Ratio: 2.07:1

CONCLUSION: PHILBIN LOVES THE RUN MORE THAN McCARTHY

I'm pretty sure most of the runs were after the game was well in hand score-wise.

[texaspackerbacker]

DeFilippo just got fired in MN so I don't know if I'd want him as HC but perhaps QB coach?

Is that true? Or are you trying some Aynrand-style sarcasm?

[texaspackerbacker]

[QUOTE=call_me_ishmael;998060]https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/11/mike-mccarthy-green-bay-packers-hired-fired-andrew-brandt



I tend to agree. I sincerely hope it is the Michigan man, and not Pat Fitzgerald.


What's the matter with Fitzgerald? He is far from my first choice and I really doubt he would leave Northwestern, but he seems to be a good competent and creative coach. If the choice was purely him or Harbaugh, absolutely he gets my vote.

[call_me_ishmael]

[QUOTE=Fritz;998068]

What's the matter with Fitzgerald? He is far from my first choice and I really doubt he would leave Northwestern, but he seems to be a good competent and creative coach. If the choice was purely him or Harbaugh, absolutely he gets my vote.

You want a coach from a Big 10 school that hasn't won anything? What, exactly, has Pat Fitzgerald done to prove he can win at the highest level? He surely hasn't done that. Spare me the Northwestern challenges, etc. I fully understand the challenges. I won't deny he's had a nice degree of success there but I wouldn't say it has been at the highest level. They play in the cupcake Big 10 west.

I, too, doubt he'd leave Northwestern. Why would he? He's a made-man there. There's something to be said for having tenure at a few million per year and being loved. That's not a bad life at all.

There is no debate between Harbaugh or Fitzgerald lol. I'm sorry but I just cannot take this seriously.

[gbgary]

i don't really care who they get. there isn't another SB in GB's future until they get another good starting QB, on a rookie contract, and have the time and money to put a team around him, anyway. if they can get a college hot-shot, who can outlast Rodgers, that would be cool.

[denverYooper]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

[QBME]

I'm confused. Is Murphy interviewing Mike Tyson?

Tyson would be a tremendous Special Teams Assistant Coach. Or maybe even player.

[texaspackerbacker]

Are you guys talking about that guy who used to be the Vikings head coach? (Tice)

[QBME]

Are you guys talking about that guy who used to be the Vikings head coach? (Tice)

Nope. The ear biter.

[Bretsky]

Lol, I love that tune.

Was it Bretsky that wanted DeFilipo? Hell, you can hire him this afternoon now if you want....



HG2 is the chosen one

I also liked DeFillipo; partly because I wanted to hurt the Vikings. Now that he is gone I find him less attractive

[mraynrand]

Are you guys talking about that guy who used to be the Vikings head coach? (Tice)

Jiminy Christmas

[Pugger]

Is that true? Or are you trying some Aynrand-style sarcasm?

Yes, he was fired. I just wondered if he was a better QB coach than OC. If he flamed out in MN as OC I don't want him in GB as a HC.

[Pugger]

i don't really care who they get. there isn't another SB in GB's future until they get another good starting QB, on a rookie contract, and have the time and money to put a team around him, anyway. if they can get a college hot-shot, who can outlast Rodgers, that would be cool.

Do you believe Rodgers is washed up?

[pbmax]

Packers will not use a search firm to hunt for a head coach. So maybe Gute is running this show?

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Report-Packers-will-handle-coaching-search-on-their-own-126180581

From PFT: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/09/packers-embark-on-wide-ranging-search-with-no-outside-help/


A league source tells PFT that the Packers will handle the search on their own, with no outside search firm. But they nevertheless will cast a very wide net, looking at a broad variety of candidates to succeed Mike McCarthy.

December will entail reaching out to college coaches, along with pro coaches who currently aren’t attached to a team. After the regular season ends, the Packers will begin talking to assistant coaches currently with other teams.

The Packers also aren’t ruling out the possibility of trying to hire a current head coach from another team. John Harbaugh could be a possibility, if that’s the approach the Packers take.

[gbgary]

Do you believe Rodgers is washed up?

no. he's not worth what he's being paid anymore but he's got a few left. it's just his prima donna factor (10/10), age, and his cap hit.

[Bretsky]

Listened to an extended interview today about a beat guy who covers the Vikings. Had good things to say about the Vikings OC and it was his opinion he has a brilliant offensive mind.

Noted him and Zimmer did not get along at all and its been known for a while. Zimmer wants to run a Bill Parcells like run and Grind it out offense.

When asked about that some feel that the Vikings OC is one of the most qualified candidates to be a head coach next year and if he thought the OC was doing much of what he did to promote himself to the NFL instead of what his head coach wanted.....he simply stated.....yup...that is what many feel.

So Zimmer, who could get canned himself if the Queenies don't make the playoffs, fired a guy he could not co exist with.

Does that alter my view of him ? Not at all.


With all that being said, I'd like to give the house to either Mr Lincoln or HG2

But would I eliminate his credentials because he didn't get along with Zimmer ? Not at all

[Cheesehead Craig]

Listened to an extended interview today about a beat guy who covers the Vikings. Had good things to say about the Vikings OC and it was his opinion he has a brilliant offensive mind.

Noted him and Zimmer did not get along at all and its been known for a while. Zimmer wants to run a Bill Parcells like run and Grind it out offense.

When asked about that some feel that the Vikings OC is one of the most qualified candidates to be a head coach next year and if he thought the OC was doing much of what he did to promote himself to the NFL instead of what his head coach wanted.....he simply stated.....yup...that is what many feel.

So Zimmer, who could get canned himself if the Queenies don't make the playoffs, fired a guy he could not co exist with.

Does that alter my view of him ? Not at all.


With all that being said, I'd like to give the house to either Mr Lincoln or HG2

But would I eliminate his credentials because he didn't get along with Zimmer ? Not at all

Frankly, I thought Flip did not do a good job as OC in Minnesota. I don't believe he tailored his offense to the personnel that they had. His boss essentially told him what he wanted and he did not do what his boss asked for. Zimmer knew best what worked with this team as last year the blueprint was set on how to succeed there. Flip decided he wanted to do something else and that got him canned. It's kind of simple, do what your boss tells you to do and make the best of it, even if you may not agree with it. I think that Flip just wanted to prove he was smarter than Zim, and it turns out he wasn't.

[Pugger]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-pat-fitzgerald-packers-northwestern-20181212-story.html

[Bretsky]

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-pat-fitzgerald-packers-northwestern-20181212-story.html


:shtf:

[Vincenzo]

Who the frick is it going to be?
Riley, McDaniels???

[run pMc]

Chris Peterson? No idea. I am highly skeptical of college coaches who jump to the NFL. Retreads don't thrill me either.
Which pretty much leaves an assistant on someone's staff...and the names floating there are meh to me. Then again, I think I went "who?" to all of GB's HC hires over the years.

[pbmax]

Would love Peterson as OC.

[call_me_ishmael]

Chris Petersen makes 5M per year at Washington. He's not leaving to be an OC :-)

[Pugger]

Have there been any reports by Wisconsin sports reporters about any interviews yet?

[pbmax]

Chris Petersen makes 5M per year at Washington. He's not leaving to be an OC :-)

Maybe not. But no more recruiters, no more parents, possibly Greg Jennings sister. Ya never know. :huh:

Other times you forget that Chris Peterson is not Chris Ault and you like the idea of Peterson as HC better after reading wikipedia. :D

[pbmax]

Have there been any reports by Wisconsin sports reporters about any interviews yet?

Nothing scooptastic. I am not aware of anything leaking yet about who they are looking at or talking to.

Silverstein on Fangio: https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/12/11/silverstein-packers-nemesis-vic-fangio-must-interview-coaching-job/2278811002/

Silverstein on Fitzgerald and some others you have heard of: https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/12/02/green-bay-packers-coaching-search/2188085002/

Silvertstein on how Wolf conducted his searches (no name except fun read): https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/12/04/packers-coaching-search-silverstein-how-ron-wolf-found-his-coaches/2207350002/

Bonus tip for Wolf telling a story where Marty Schottenheimer is caught flat footed.

[Joemailman]

Do you think the Vikings would let their OC leave after 1 year to go coach the Packers?

On second thought, I guess they would.

[Joemailman]

If Packers beat the Bears tomorrow (big if), they could very well go 4-0 under Philbin. Does he then become the favorite?

[Bretsky]

If Packers beat the Bears tomorrow (big if), they could very well go 4-0 under Philbin. Does he then become the favorite?

HELL NO

[mraynrand]

If Packers beat the Bears tomorrow (big if), they could very well go 4-0 under Philbin. Does he then become the favorite?

He could become a spokesperson for famine relief

[texaspackerbacker]

If Packers beat the Bears tomorrow (big if), they could very well go 4-0 under Philbin. Does he then become the favorite?

That works for me.

[ZachMN]

This guy with a kindred spirit as his OC- Gregg Williams and this is why:
'If not, defensively we’re going to come back and do it, pretty similar to how we finished the game on defense going all-out blitz. That’s the aggressive nature of this team. They accepted it very well.”
None of this 'Prevent' defense teams play all the time...go for someone's throat and tap dance on that thing...

[Pugger]

If Packers beat the Bears tomorrow (big if), they could very well go 4-0 under Philbin. Does he then become the favorite?

I know this won't go over very well with many of you but even if Philbin goes 3-1 he is a legit candidate because he could get this rag-tag bunch to perform.

[pbmax]

I know this won't go over very well with many of you but even if Philbin goes 3-1 he is a legit candidate because he could get this rag-tag bunch to perform.

I think he has to be viewed as legit because Murphy and Gute said he was. And they refused to say the same about Pettine or anyone else.

The question is do they have the stones to say no if there is a groundswell among players and fans. Since this is their first/second big hire, I think they will be able to withstand even 4-0. You would need a playoff run to ensure the job I suspect.

[Joemailman]

I think he has to be viewed as legit because Murphy and Gute said he was. And they refused to say the same about Pettine or anyone else.

The question is do they have the stones to say no if there is a groundswell among players and fans. Since this is their first/second big hire, I think they will be able to withstand even 4-0. You would need a playoff run to ensure the job I suspect.

Well, Pettine has already said he doesn't want a HC job. Don't really think there is anyone else on the staff who would be considered a candidate.

[pbmax]

Well, Pettine has already said he doesn't want a HC job. Don't really think there is anyone else on the staff who would be considered a candidate.

If you go watch his interview in the media room from the week M3 was fired, he hedges an awful lot about never head coaching again.

Now, he could just have been trying to tamp down rampaging speculation, but he spent much more time being in love with his coordinator position then saying I'll never a head coach again. I think, in fact, he said circumstances could always change things. He did say he wanted a second year with this defense and these players though.

[denverYooper]

I think he has to be viewed as legit because Murphy and Gute said he was. And they refused to say the same about Pettine or anyone else.

The question is do they have the stones to say no if there is a groundswell among players and fans. Since this is their first/second big hire, I think they will be able to withstand even 4-0. You would need a playoff run to ensure the job I suspect.

That plus probably a new look to the offense to make that run happen. They could get a few bounces (or some Trubisky INTs) and win some coinflip games to go 4-0 but if no one can definitively say that Philbin re-stamped the offense to make it happen then I don't see him staying.

[Joemailman]

If you go watch his interview in the media room from the week M3 was fired, he hedges an awful lot about never head coaching again.

Now, he could just have been trying to tamp down rampaging speculation, but he spent much more time being in love with his coordinator position then saying I'll never a head coach again. I think, in fact, he said circumstances could always change things. He did say he wanted a second year with this defense and these players though.

Right. I kind of expect him to be a HC again some day. But I see no sign that he's ready to jump back into that now.

[George Cumby]

Right. I kind of expect him to be a HC again some day. But I see no sign that he's ready to jump back into that now.

Man, I hope he takes some time off, takes up Yoga and jogging. Works on his golf game or ice-fishing skills or what the fuck ever.

Coach deserves a break and some quality time with his wife and kids.

Any one hating on the guy now needs to go examine their priorities.

[call_me_ishmael]

John Harbaugh (smartly) getting extended by Baltimore. Let's hope we can still attract the other one. With Urban stepping down, you gotta wonder if he doesn't think his window just flew open. I bet Michigan can/will pay him more, too. Rumor has it MM was only making 6-7M.

[KYPack]

Really have heard some positive things about the Colts DC, Matt Erberflus. He has the Colts turned around this season into one of the top D's in the league. Most NFL observers see Matt as a sure fire HC candidate in the off season. Most of 'em think he will have a big job this season or next at the latest. He has some unique defensive concepts and gets his teams ready to go each week. Matt is the guy that McDaniels tapped as his D Coordinator when he "accepted" the Colts job.

I know Pettine has done a decent job, but you have to get good guys where you find them.

[Rutnstrut]

I don't hate stubby as a person. But watching football today reminds me as it does every time I watch other teams. Just how worthless stubby was as a coach.

[Pugger]

I don't hate stubby as a person. But watching football today reminds me as it does every time I watch other teams. Just how worthless stubby was as a coach.

I don't think he was worthless but his coaching style lost its luster after a while. Hopefully a new coach with a new approach will breathe some life into this team big time next season.

[ThunderDan]

I don't hate stubby as a person. But watching football today reminds me as it does every time I watch other teams. Just how worthless stubby was as a coach.

You would loved the Saints game last week. Bubble screen, bubble screen, Tasum Hill run, punt.

Sean Payton did it so he is a genius. If MM had run that series people here would have screamed for MM’s head on a pole.

[beveaux1]

You would loved the Saints game last week. Bubble screen, bubble screen, Tasum Hill run, punt.

Sean Payton did it so he is a genius. If MM had run that series people here would have screamed for MM’s head on a pole.

It’s all about success. If one of the screens had popped for a big gain, or the run picked up a first down, nobody’s griping. MM’s time was done here because the success was not there. Had we won 10 or 11 games, the griping would be minimal. Sure, there would be some that would talk about the lack of superb owls, but he would still be coach. They wouldn’t fire him after another playoff run.

It was time for a change, but I keep thinking about the saying” be careful what you wish for”.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Really have heard some positive things about the Colts DC, Matt Erberflus. He has the Colts turned around this season into one of the top D's in the league. Most NFL observers see Matt as a sure fire HC candidate in the off season. Most of 'em think he will have a big job this season or next at the latest. He has some unique defensive concepts and gets his teams ready to go each week. Matt is the guy that McDaniels tapped as his D Coordinator when he "accepted" the Colts job.

I know Pettine has done a decent job, but you have to get good guys where you find them.

Bring black the Pistol Force! :)

[mraynrand]

You would loved the Saints game last week. Bubble screen, bubble screen, Tasum Hill run, punt.

Sean Payton did it so he is a genius. If MM had run that series people here would have screamed for MM’s head on a pole.

Hahahahaha. It's funny because it's true. One of the greatest posts in a while...

[pbmax]

You would loved the Saints game last week. Bubble screen, bubble screen, Tasum Hill run, punt.

Sean Payton did it so he is a genius. If MM had run that series people here would have screamed for MM’s head on a pole.

The Saints offense has hit bottom for about 3 weeks now. I think since that Cowboys game.

Again, possibly worst year ever for the Packers to be completely mediocre.

[mraynrand]

The Saints offense has hit bottom for about 3 weeks now. I think since that Cowboys game.

Again, possibly worst year ever for the Packers to be completely mediocre.

Don't sweat it, PB. I have confidence that the entire NFL will be sufficiently mediocre next year too.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1077036483570208769

I don't think I'd hate this. Tomlin is a great coach. Steelers have great personnel too, I think it's just time for them to make a change (much like GB).

[texaspackerbacker]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1077036483570208769

I don't think I'd hate this. Tomlin is a great coach. Steelers have great personnel too, I think it's just time for them to make a change (much like GB).

I'd be ok with this.

[Pugger]

On another forum a name being kicked around is Adam Gase in Miami. What do you guys think of him as a possible candidate?

[Bretsky]

On another forum a name being kicked around is Adam Gase in Miami. What do you guys think of him as a possible candidate?

I would embrace this
Great offensive mind stuck with crappy talent.
He made Cutler look competent

[Joemailman]

I would embrace this
Great offensive mind stuck with crappy talent.
He made Cutler look competent
But is he a good head coach? 'Lindy Infante was a great offensive mind. Many great OC's have made poor head coaches. Gase might be a better choice for OC.

[red]

On another forum a name being kicked around is Adam Gase in Miami. What do you guys think of him as a possible candidate?

It’s not just another forum

Lots of sites and experts are linking him to is, along with a lot of other guys right now

I think everyone out there is just trying to throw every name out there against the wall right now, cause no one has a clue who we’re gonna get

But yes, game seems to be a candidate right now

[Cheesehead Craig]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1077036483570208769

I don't think I'd hate this. Tomlin is a great coach. Steelers have great personnel too, I think it's just time for them to make a change (much like GB).

Pass. Tomlin lets Ben do what he wants and throw players under the bus. He's lost Pittsburgh, I don't see him coming to GB and doing anything special.

[Teamcheez1]

I was laughing after reading a story on ESPN that Zook may be on shaky ground after the game. He looks to be up to his neck in quicksand.

[wist43]

Pass. Tomlin lets Ben do what he wants and throw players under the bus. He's lost Pittsburgh, I don't see him coming to GB and doing anything special.

No matter what, the next coach needs to get Aaron's attention... ARod definitely needs to reined in.

[call_me_ishmael]

I would embrace this
Great offensive mind stuck with crappy talent.
He made Cutler look competent

I'd be fine with this too. Is there any indication he's out in Miami?s

Edit: Googled, yes, he's probably going to get canned.

[texaspackerbacker]

No matter what, the next coach needs to get Aaron's attention... ARod definitely needs to reined in.

Fuck that idea! If what somebody said about Tomlin's handling of the Steelers and Roethlisberger is true, THAT is what we need - a coach without a big ego who will maximize the things our superstar does best.

[bobblehead]

Fuck that idea! If what somebody said about Tomlin's handling of the Steelers and Roethlisberger is true, THAT is what we need - a coach without a big ego who will maximize the things our superstar does best.

Sort of like Mike Sherman letting Burt get out of control...

[texaspackerbacker]

I liked Mike Sherman. 52-28 in five seasons ........ that's pretty damn good. Favre didn't need to be reined in either.

[Teamcheez1]

Apparently, Rodgers is pleased with Philbin as the next coach of the Packers. Oy vey!

[texaspackerbacker]

If he's pleased, I'm pleased.

[pbmax]

https://twitter.com/AaronNagler/status/1077036483570208769

I don't think I'd hate this. Tomlin is a great coach. Steelers have great personnel too, I think it's just time for them to make a change (much like GB).

No. He is a dumber game day coach that M3. His offense is better but its not his offense. His defenses have been terrible.

[pbmax]

Gase was a good OC for Manning and has made it work in bad situations with Cutler and Tannehill.

But I am not convinced he is a good head coach. Would need to know a lot more about why the Dolphins keep falling apart.

[Pugger]

Apparently, Rodgers is pleased with Philbin as the next coach of the Packers. Oy vey!

I seriously doubt Rodgers will have any say on who our next HC is.

[call_me_ishmael]

Gase was a good OC for Manning and has made it work in bad situations with Cutler and Tannehill.

But I am not convinced he is a good head coach. Would need to know a lot more about why the Dolphins keep falling apart.

Because they've been terrible my entire 33 years of life and they're the fricking Dolphins? They don't have any good players.

[pbmax]

I seriously doubt Rodgers will have any say on who our next HC is.

He won't be interviewing them, but if he doesn't meet and speak to them before the deal is signed, its a bad sign. Management has to have some hook to hold a belief that Rodgers will buy in.

I don't think the Packers paid him north of $100 mil so they could tick him off from the start.

Rodgers being here will also influence the interview process. Knowing what offense and who the OC will be will be even more important than usual. Sherman got hired partially because he kept the WCO and had a plan to reduce its dependence on the QB and WR. Some similar plan will need to be presented by the eventual HC.

[pbmax]

Because they've been terrible my entire 33 years of life and they're the fricking Dolphins? They don't have any good players.

They had a very good defense and some talent at the skill positions on offense. But it keeps going sideways. They've drafted pretty high relative to the Packers and spent money on FA.

They tore apart a talented defense and ending up with an expensive wreck. Need to know why that happened.

[bobblehead]

I liked Mike Sherman. 52-28 in five seasons ........ that's pretty damn good. Favre didn't need to be reined in either.

Said every viking fan until the NFCC

[Carolina_Packer]

He won't be interviewing them, but if he doesn't meet and speak to them before the deal is signed, its a bad sign. Management has to have some hook to hold a belief that Rodgers will buy in.

I don't think the Packers paid him north of $100 mil so they could tick him off from the start.

Rodgers being here will also influence the interview process. Knowing what offense and who the OC will be will be even more important than usual. Sherman got hired partially because he kept the WCO and had a plan to reduce its dependence on the QB and WR. Some similar plan will need to be presented by the eventual HC.

Even though Murphy and Gutekunst kept their cards close to their vest when asked about Aaron's involvement in the hiring process, no doubt in my mind his input will factor in, but not be the deciding factor. What would surprise me is if an organization openly talked about what or who was going to factor into the final decision. I think they were just being coy.

[mraynrand]

What potential coach wouldn't insist on talking to Rodgers? And maybe even a few more key personnel and starters? Am I being naive? I thought that always happened one way or another.

[pbmax]

What potential coach wouldn't insist on talking to Rodgers? And maybe even a few more key personnel and starters? Am I being naive? I thought that always happened one way or another.

Smart ones would. That's not the case for every NFL coach.

[The Shadow]

I think the Packer brass should simply talk to ME first.

[mraynrand]

I think the Packer brass should simply talk to ME first.

I'm on board with this. Shadow's recommendation/approval first or nothing!

[Pugger]

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/packers-head-coach-search-mike-mccarthy-fired/2018/12/26/18156468/joe-philbin-head-coach-packers-zac-taylor

[pbmax]

https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/packers-head-coach-search-mike-mccarthy-fired/2018/12/26/18156468/joe-philbin-head-coach-packers-zac-taylor

That whole scenario seems like a fairy tale. And one where only one of the three key hires has proven himself.

No guarantees about Taylor succeeding. Philbin stepping up to a role he has failed before. Only Pettine as proven commodity.

[Joemailman]

Rob DemovskyESPN Staff Writer Strongest statement yet in favor of interim coach Joe Philbin comes from Davante Adams: "I'd love to see the search stop there."

[Teamcheez1]

Lord have mercy. Strong endorsements for Philbin, and we interviewed Jim Caldwell. We are headed back to the 70’s/80’s.

[The Shadow]

I think the Caldwell interview was to address the Rooney Rule. At least I hope so.

[denverYooper]

Tom Silverstein
‏Verified account @TomSilverstein
22m22 minutes ago

The #Packers have interviewed another former #Colts head coach, Chuck Pagano, two sources said. He coached the Colts from 2012-'17. He also worked with Mike Pettine in Baltimore and hired Joe Philbin in Indianapolis.

[pbmax]

Demovsky:

The Packers have indeed interviewed Jim Caldwell, as Pro Football Talk first reported. But he may not have been the first or only coaching candidate interviewed at this point. Packers president Mark Murphy and GM Brian Gutekunst have been working on this since the day after Mike McCarthy was fired more than three weeks ago.

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-41050632-4

[ZachMN]

Gregg Williams- the right attitude and wants to win and will have a Kick Ass Defense that can use this as their theme song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5CJzm6lEc8

Ain't no job too big or small,
Just one sweep of the wreckin' ball.
Put 'em up, we'll knock 'em down,
Or knock 'em up, then leave town.
Demolition of the mind.
Desolation, left behind.
Light the fuse, dynamite.
Light the sky! In the night!!!

[texaspackerbacker]

Let the record show, I endorsed Philbin even before Rodgers and Adams came out for him.

I also would be ok with Pagano. Also with Gregg Williams (wasn't he the "bounty" guy in New Orleans?). Caldwell - no way.

[mraynrand]

I'm going to be highly skeptical of anyone Rodgers endorses. Just as likely may be due to sense of his ability to push the guy around. If you're going that route just make Rodgers player-coach. Maybe we have a repeat 1929. lol

[gbgary]

I seriously doubt Rodgers will have any say on who our next HC is.

getting his vote in now IS him having a say. it's saying he wants the offence the way it is (street-ball go-deep whenever possible), his personality in the qb room is stronger than philbin's so he likes that dynamic (he won't be coached).

[Pugger]

getting his vote in now IS him having a say.

He might have endorsed Philbin but I seriously doubt his opinion is going to have any pull.

[gbgary]

He might have endorsed Philbin but I seriously doubt his opinion is going to have any pull.

why would they start ignoring him now? he gripped about his pay so they re-upped him two years early, he didn't like MM anymore so he was removed.

[ThunderDan]

why would they start ignoring him now? he gripped about his pay so they re-upped him two years early, he didn't like MM anymore so he was removed.

When did he gripe about his pay? Seriously. I don't remember Arod coming out and saying I don't get paid enough. ARod knew when he signed his last deal he was the highest paid player and that would last until the next wave of contracts. That is the way the NFL is right now with QB contracts.

[hoosier]

I had the misfortune of having to watch Pagano's teams in Indy for five years. Despite having Andrew Luck, the Colts steadily regressed during that period until they hit rock bottom. Pagano didn't get much help from his GM and owner, but he didn't exactly distinguish himself either. I can see several reasons why GB might want to interview Caldwell. I see absolutely no reason why Chuck Pagano should be considered for an NFL coaching job, especially one that should be among the most attractive openings in the league. Hopefully this is just complying with somebody's insistence on interviewing a defensive mind for the HC position.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm going to be highly skeptical of anyone Rodgers endorses. Just as likely may be due to sense of his ability to push the guy around. If you're going that route just make Rodgers player-coach. Maybe we have a repeat 1929. lol

Do you think he'll end up owning the team? And about 2050 or so, they can name the next stadium after him. Aaron Rodgers State Farm Field

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I wouldn't mind ole Joe. He was initially hired by Sherman. But unless JMAC comes to Title Town, I think it's time the Packers hire a minority coach again. As someone who supports NFL oddity, I'd prefer an Asian coach, for there has never been an Asian head coach in the NFL. But Wisconsin's own Jim Caldwell would be awesome.

The only thing that pissed me off about ole Ray Rhodes is, he didn't bring hip hop to Green Bay.

[gbgary]

When did he gripe about his pay? Seriously. I don't remember Arod coming out and saying I don't get paid enough. ARod knew when he signed his last deal he was the highest paid player and that would last until the next wave of contracts. That is the way the NFL is right now with QB contracts.

there'd be no other reason to do it two years early, and coming off a throwing arm injury, had he not. he definitely mentioned it when other teams signed free agent qb's or extended their own.

[Bretsky]

Philbin...pass

If the Ram guy is an offensive Genius I'll take him as the HC and Philbin can be the OC

[call_me_ishmael]

That whole scenario seems like a fairy tale. And one where only one of the three key hires has proven himself.

No guarantees about Taylor succeeding. Philbin stepping up to a role he has failed before. Only Pettine as proven commodity.

I mean Miami is trivially less dysfunctional than Miami. Of course Philbin was going to fail there. Who wouldn't?

The Packers are going to get someone who projects to be top notch. That's not to say they'll end up being top notch, but they'll be the best coaching prospect available. They have by far the most attractive opening in the NFL despite Aaron maybe being a coach killer. My prediction is the Packers job is the first domino to fall since nobody is going to want to take a different job until they're out of the Packers job hunt. Cleveland looks good on paper but it's still the Browns, still Cleveland, and still dysfuntional Jimmy Haslem.

[mraynrand]

Do you think he'll end up owning the team?

The Packers? Think McFly, Think.

In 2050, he might be able to pick up the Bills at a garage sale.

[mraynrand]

I mean Miami is trivially less dysfunctional than Miami. Of course Philbin was going to fail there. Who wouldn't?

The Packers are going to get someone who projects to be top notch. That's not to say they'll end up being top notch, but they'll be the best coaching prospect available. They have by far the most attractive opening in the NFL despite Aaron maybe being a coach killer. My prediction is the Packers job is the first domino to fall since nobody is going to want to take a different job until they're out of the Packers job hunt. Cleveland looks good on paper but it's still the Browns, still Cleveland, and still dysfuntional Jimmy Haslem.

Not actually

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Philbin...pass

If the Ram guy is an offensive Genius I'll take him as the HC and Philbin can be the OC

More likely, the notorious Mike Sherman will be his OC.

[ThunderDan]

there'd be no other reason to do it two years early, and coming off a throwing arm injury, had he not. he definitely mentioned it when other teams signed free agent qb's or extended their own.

So why did the Packers extend ARod the first time? It happened in 2008, he still under his rookie contract through 2009 and was considered possibly injury prone. We had just drafted Brohm and Flynn also because Packer brass was so unsure of ARod going forward.

He mentioned other QBs were paid more. When did he gripe about it? Please give me details. If I remember it was never ARod, it was always reporters who opined about ARod's state of mind.

[gbgary]

So why did the Packers extend ARod the first time? It happened in 2008, he still under his rookie contract through 2009 and was considered possibly injury prone. We had just drafted Brohm and Flynn also because Packer brass was so unsure of ARod going forward.

He mentioned other QBs were paid more. When did he gripe about it? Please give me details. If I remember it was never ARod, it was always reporters who opined about ARod's state of mind.

that was one year early. that's what they should have done in this case...perhaps could have saved themselves a couple of mill a year in cap room and a year or two in length.

[wist43]

Philbin? Jim Caldwell?? Some other retreads??

WTF?? I'm seriously underwhelmed with this coaching search so far 😡

[Teamcheez1]

Let the record show, I endorsed Philbin even before Rodgers and Adams came out for him.

I also would be ok with Pagano. Also with Gregg Williams (wasn't he the "bounty" guy in New Orleans?). Caldwell - no way.

Let the record show I will never endorse Philbin for head coach of the Packers. Caldwell is a double no. Pagano seems an unlikely fit.

[esoxx]

Let the record show I will never endorse Philbin for head coach of the Packers. Caldwell is a double no. Pagano seems an unlikely fit.

Couldn't agree more. Except Pagano would be a triple no for me.

Real candidates will come as soon as more teams are eliminated from post-season.

[Joemailman]

I mean Miami is trivially less dysfunctional than Miami. Of course Philbin was going to fail there. Who wouldn't?

The Packers are going to get someone who projects to be top notch. That's not to say they'll end up being top notch, but they'll be the best coaching prospect available. They have by far the most attractive opening in the NFL despite Aaron maybe being a coach killer. My prediction is the Packers job is the first domino to fall since nobody is going to want to take a different job until they're out of the Packers job hunt. Cleveland looks good on paper but it's still the Browns, still Cleveland, and still dysfuntional Jimmy Haslem.

The idea of Rodgers being a coach killer seems kind of ludicrous to me seeing as how McCarthy survived here for 13 years, which is very rare in the NFL.

[Bretsky]

The idea of Rodgers being a coach killer seems kind of ludicrous to me seeing as how McCarthy survived here for 13 years, which is very rare in the NFL.

I agree with you that Rodgers is not a coach killer.

Would you agree with this statement.

But it sure seems that currently Rodgers has Joe's back and he definitely didn't have MM's back

[Joemailman]

I agree with you that Rodgers is not a coach killer.

Would you agree with this statement.

But it sure seems that currently Rodgers has Joe's back and he definitely didn't have MM's back

I agree. Adams made some comments along these lines also.

[call_me_ishmael]

The idea of Rodgers being a coach killer seems kind of ludicrous to me seeing as how McCarthy survived here for 13 years, which is very rare in the NFL.

Right that’s why I said Maybe. It’s sort of up for debate. If he continues to freelance and not be a system player, the offense will stall and he’ll kill the next coach. Hopefully he begins playing within a fast paced get-the-ball-our-quick system.

[Bretsky]

I agree. Adams made some comments along these lines also.



Really makes one wonder

The couple weeks before MM was fired Rodgers fundamentals were crap, his body language was crap, and he just seemed to be not content.

MM leaves and to me it seems like his effort is better, his footwork is better, his body language is better, and all of a sudden he loves his coach

[mraynrand]

This is pretty interesting. Think like a coach: In critical situations, don't think plays, think players. Also: 15 year old calling the plays....


https://twitter.com/E60/status/1068967069507612674

[Pugger]

Philbin? Jim Caldwell?? Some other retreads??

WTF?? I'm seriously underwhelmed with this coaching search so far ��

We can't interview any of the good ones until their teams are done playing or are on a week off in the playoffs. I suspect they interviewed Caldwell = Rooney rule.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

We can't interview any of the good ones until their teams are done playing or are on a week off in the playoffs. I suspect they interviewed Caldwell = Rooney rule.

How come it’s always a token Rooney Rule interview every time a mongoloid or a negroid gets interviewed? That’s racist, man. Caldwell is a legitimate candidate - led Colts to the Super Bowl.

To paraphrase my pal Harlan, this is ‘Rica, haters. We don’t tolerate institutional and scientific racisms here. Anyone preaching that shit can go back to Italy, and take your bigotry with you. :)

[denverYooper]

Really makes one wonder

The couple weeks before MM was fired Rodgers fundamentals were crap, his body language was crap, and he just seemed to be not content.

MM leaves and to me it seems like his effort is better, his footwork is better, his body language is better, and all of a sudden he loves his coach

Most of their recent schedule is weaker. He had a rough day against the Bears.

[denverYooper]

Real candidates will come as soon as more teams are eliminated from post-season.

Agree. They're laying groundwork now so they can move fast without being rash on a candidate they like after the season.

[denverYooper]

When are they going to interview John Fox?

[Pugger]

How come it’s always a token Rooney Rule interview every time a mongoloid or a negroid gets interviewed? That’s racist, man. Caldwell is a legitimate candidate - led Colts to the Super Bowl.

To paraphrase my pal Harlan, this is ‘Rica, haters. We don’t tolerate institutional and scientific racisms here. Anyone preaching that shit can go back to Italy, and take your bigotry with you. :)

Every time?

So you consider Caldwell a legit candidate? To each his own I guess...I sure as hell hope we hire somebody better than that impassive guy.

[mraynrand]

When are they going to interview John Fox?

Would he satisfy the Davis Rule whereby they have to interview an embalmed candidate?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pagano and Caldwell are legit candidates. Caldwell took the Lions, the freaking Lions to 2 playoffs. Stafford was his best under him. Caldwell does a solid job with offenses. Plus, he's a Cheesehead (from Beloit).

Pagano guided the post-Manning Colts to 3 straight 11 win seasons, but then got snakebit by Lucks 2 year injury woes and got fired. He gave that team toughness. He's a defensive minded coach (spent 4 seasons with the Ravens on the defensive side) and I think would pair pretty nicely with Pettine.

I'm not going to dismiss these guys.

[Bretsky]

Pagano and Caldwell are legit candidates. Caldwell took the Lions, the freaking Lions to 2 playoffs. Stafford was his best under him. Caldwell does a solid job with offenses. Plus, he's a Cheesehead (from Beloit).

Pagano guided the post-Manning Colts to 3 straight 11 win seasons, but then got snakebit by Lucks 2 year injury woes and got fired. He gave that team toughness. He's a defensive minded coach (spent 4 seasons with the Ravens on the defensive side) and I think would pair pretty nicely with Pettine.

I'm not going to dismiss these guys.


On a national level both are considered good candidates; on paper most consider Caldwell the better of the two.

But if you talk to the fans that cover both teams their fans did not like them

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Every time?

So you consider Caldwell a legit candidate? To each his own I guess...I sure as hell hope we hire somebody better than that impassive guy.

Caldwell led the Colts to a Super Bowl. “Average” Joe Flacco looked like a star with Caldwell at OC, as the Baltimore Shemales won a Super Bowl. Stafford was a fantasy football star under Caldwell.

Jimmy C’s resume says he’s a highly successful nfl coach.

Alas, Caldwell could have 10 Super Bowl rings to his name, and Caucasiods like Tony O’Day, Rut, Shadow and perhaps even Prof Rand would still willingly disavow their Packers fandom if Murphy picked Caldwell.

[Bretsky]

Caldwell led the Colts to a Super Bowl. “Average” Joe Flacco looked like a star with Caldwell at OC, as the Baltimore Shemales won a Super Bowl. Stafford was a fantasy football star under Caldwell.

Jimmy C’s resume says he’s a highly successful nfl coach.

Alas, Caldwell could have 10 Super Bowl rings to his name, and Caucasiods like Tony O’Day, Rut, Shadow and perhaps even Prof Rand would still willingly disavow their Packers fandom if Murphy picked Caldwell.


Still lots of whispers about the Northwestern Coach, Who Marcia Marcia Marcia has ties to and hired to coach at Northwestern.

I'd certainly take Caldwell over Northwestern Pat

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Still lots of whispers about the Northwestern Coach, Who Marcia Marcia Marcia has ties to and hired to coach at Northwestern.

I'd certainly take Caldwell over Northwestern Pat

Affirmative.

When’s the last time someone with little or no NFL coaching experience came in and light up the League? Jimmy Johnson?

[pbmax]

getting his vote in now IS him having a say. it's saying he wants the offence the way it is (street-ball go-deep whenever possible), his personality in the qb room is stronger than philbin's so he likes that dynamic (he won't be coached).

Except the offense did not look that way versus the Jets. Seemed more balanced between deep and short. And I would bet the 3rd downs were shorter yard to go situations.

[pbmax]

Gregg Williams will look like a genius if you give him a decade of top 10 picks on D. I don't understand the love for the guy when its always the same, if he has the talent, he looks like a genius.

I think Schwartz, his protege, is a better coordinator with lesser talent.

[mraynrand]

Affirmative.

When’s the last time someone with little or no NFL coaching experience came in and light up the League? Jimmy Johnson?

Barry Switzer!

[gbgary]

Except the offense did not look that way versus the Jets. Seemed more balanced between deep and short. And I would bet the 3rd downs were shorter yard to go situations.

it's the Philbin offense though. this time they just executed better...and got a bunch of first downs on jets defensive penalties.

[bobblehead]

Caldwell led the Colts to a Super Bowl. “Average” Joe Flacco looked like a star with Caldwell at OC, as the Baltimore Shemales won a Super Bowl. Stafford was a fantasy football star under Caldwell.

Jimmy C’s resume says he’s a highly successful nfl coach.

Alas, Caldwell could have 10 Super Bowl rings to his name, and Caucasiods like Tony O’Day, Rut, Shadow and perhaps even Prof Rand would still willingly disavow their Packers fandom if Murphy picked Caldwell.

If he is a cheesehead I'll take him. Don't care if his skin is green!

[bobblehead]

Gregg Williams will look like a genius if you give him a decade of top 10 picks on D. I don't understand the love for the guy when its always the same, if he has the talent, he looks like a genius.

I think Schwartz, his protege, is a better coordinator with lesser talent.

But he might be the biggest AHole in all of football.

[The Shadow]

Does not wildly favoring a poor coach (4 victories over teams with at over .500 records) make one a 'Caucasiod'?
I'm a Caucusiod!

[pbmax]

it's the Philbin offense though. this time they just executed better...and got a bunch of first downs on jets defensive penalties.

This is true. The offense wasn't at peak efficiency. Rodgers still waiting and pass pro problems still there.

[Rutnstrut]

Caldwell led the Colts to a Super Bowl. “Average” Joe Flacco looked like a star with Caldwell at OC, as the Baltimore Shemales won a Super Bowl. Stafford was a fantasy football star under Caldwell.

Jimmy C’s resume says he’s a highly successful nfl coach.

Alas, Caldwell could have 10 Super Bowl rings to his name, and Caucasiods like Tony O’Day, Rut, Shadow and perhaps even Prof Rand would still willingly disavow their Packers fandom if Murphy picked Caldwell.



Way to stereotype dumbass, I identify as mexican japanese hermaphadyte.

[call_me_ishmael]

Adam Gase has gotta be an interviewee if/when gets let go. A few years of HC experience I think will really have helped him out, and I don't view him not being successful in Miami with Tannenbaum as boss as a red flag at all. It's Miami, they're perpetually awful.

He checks all the boxes:
1. Offensive guru
2. Not Hoodie Jr
3. Proved it with multiple teams
4. Led Peyton and whats-his-face to have two of the best years of their careers
5. Wasn't as awful as could have been in Miami, better record than Philbin for example.

I'm excited to see how this ramps up over the next week or two. When we do we think we'll have an idea of who the next coach will be and when do we think we'll have it finalized?

[Bretsky]

Hoodie Jr on paper remains more qualified than just about every candidate we throw on the list. I don't know about character though

[texaspackerbacker]

Do we care all that much about good character? Or do we care more about winning? Just sayin' ........

[denverYooper]

mike freeman
‏Verified account @mikefreemanNFL

Glazer on coaches who will be fired: Bowles, Gregg (Two G) Williams, Marvin Lewis, Vance Joseph, Joe Philbin, Dirk Koetter, Steve Wilks.

[SavedByGrace]

No surprise here...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25645369/green-bay-packers-expected-request-head-coaching-interview-northwestern-pat-fitzgerald

[Bretsky]

No surprise here...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25645369/green-bay-packers-expected-request-head-coaching-interview-northwestern-pat-fitzgerald


Pit Fitzgerald is NOT widely regarded as one of the top coaches in college football

[Teamcheez1]

Not Philbin.

[mraynrand]

Not Philbin.

+1

[texaspackerbacker]

Philbin took a step backward with me today also. However, none of the names I've seen mentioned so far seem all that great either - certainly not Fitzgerald, Caldwell, or Pagano. I thought it was a joke when people mentioned Brett Favre as a possibility, but I'd take him over pretty much anybody else mentioned.

I'm really looking forward to getting a new O Line coach - other teams with allegedly worse O Line personnel perform a helluva lot better in run blocking and pass protecting than ours does. I'm also looking forward to getting a new Special Teams coordinator - Zook's special teams have been an all out clusterfuck. And as I said in the other thread, seeing Pettine go wouldn't bother me one bit either.

[red]

the whole staff can go

time to pour 10 gallons of gas on the fat mike coaching twig and burn it

[red]

Philbin took a step backward with me today also. However, none of the names I've seen mentioned so far seem all that great either - certainly not Fitzgerald, Caldwell, or Pagano. I thought it was a joke when people mentioned Brett Favre as a possibility, but I'd take him over pretty much anybody else mentioned.

.

makes complete sense to me. guy has zero coaching experience and never listened to a coach when he was playing.

but he is a packer legend, so i'm sure more then a few rubes will think its a good idea

[HowardRoark]

Fresh Start With Bert

[pbmax]

Aaron Nagler, who gets some stuff right occasionally, is really on the Adam Gase bandwagon now.

I kinda hope he gets canned and the Packers get to interview him. He could have Pettine, GGWilliams or Bowles as his D coordinator.

[pbmax]

+1

+2

[pbmax]

Fresh Start With Bert

Can you imagine how long those press conferences will last? They'll only get one question in and its monologue city for 45 minutes.

[pbmax]

If they hire Pat Fitzgerald, I will register and help setup FireMarkMurphy.com

[call_me_ishmael]

Aaron Nagler, who gets some stuff right occasionally, is really on the Adam Gase bandwagon now.

I kinda hope he gets canned and the Packers get to interview him. He could have Pettine, GGWilliams or Bowles as his D coordinator.

Yep I sorta love it as well.

[Badgerinmaine]

mike freeman
‏Verified account @mikefreemanNFL

Glazer on coaches who will be fired: Bowles, Gregg (Two G) Williams, Marvin Lewis, Vance Joseph, Joe Philbin, Dirk Koetter, Steve Wilks.
I can buy almost all of them being gone. But it seems like Marvin Lewis would have to kill someone in broad daylight to lose his job in Cincinnati, even though I think it's time for him to go. Also, the Browns have responded well under Williams. I've never been a personal fan of his since BountyGate, but I think they ought to give him a long look.

[Badgerinmaine]

We're not even to midnight Sunday and two coaches have already been fired:
Todd Bowles with the Jets...http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001006237/article/new-york-jets-fire-head-coach-todd-bowles
...and Dirk Koetter with the Bucs. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/12/30/18162199/dirk-koetter-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers
(https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/12/30/18162199/dirk-koetter-fired-tampa-bay-buccaneers)

[ThunderDan]

I don’t want Bowles as head coach but I would love him as the DC.

[The Shadow]

I really, really, really want Whitt gone.

[Bretsky]

If they hire Pat Fitzgerald, I will register and help setup FireMarkMurphy.com


Can I be the co president of this ?

I like Gase and Hoody Jr; both offensive Guru's

On the Sunday Night Football Halftime show they reported GB will ask for permission to interview Hoody Jr

[ThunderDan]

Good for the Packers if they interview Hoody Jr. I don’t want him as HC but interview a wide range of candidates to give us the best shot.

[Bretsky]

Good for the Packers if they interview Hoody Jr. I don’t want him as HC but interview a wide range of candidates to give us the best shot.

Agree
I'd be fine with him but in reality I want them to overdue their due diligence and get the best guy and then lock up a stellar DC with proven success

[call_me_ishmael]

Chatter for Jim Harbaugh seems to have died down a bit, but the Jets apparently are still interesting in offering him big bucks.

Tonight there is chatter that John Harbaugh may not re-up with the Ravens and instead could be traded to the Dolphins or the Browns. Lol wat? He's an amazing coach but why would he want to leave the Steady Eddie Ravens and furthermore why would they let him leave? Show him the money.

Is there a fantasy tag for coaches? If not, there should be :-D

[call_me_ishmael]

Tell me this portly fella doesn't look exactly like the next coach of the Packers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Daboll

[call_me_ishmael]

Done deal with Hoody Jr already if he wants it?

https://twitter.com/ZachAJacobson/status/1079600970420518913
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/ab3ytl/worthy_tidbit_the_only_way_mcdaniels_doesnt_get/

[texaspackerbacker]

Done deal with Hoody Jr already if he wants it?

https://twitter.com/ZachAJacobson/status/1079600970420518913
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/ab3ytl/worthy_tidbit_the_only_way_mcdaniels_doesnt_get/

I could live with this choice.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I could live with this choice.

I would be jolly.

[Joemailman]

Report Packers have asked for permission to talk to MsDaniels and Patriots LB coach Brian Flores.https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/30/report-packers-to-request-interviews-with-josh-mcdaniels-brian-flores/ Flores was the defacto DC for Partriots this year, although he didn't have the title.

Edit: Patriots have a 1st round bye, so could it happen quickly?

[Pugger]

Chatter for Jim Harbaugh seems to have died down a bit, but the Jets apparently are still interesting in offering him big bucks.

Tonight there is chatter that John Harbaugh may not re-up with the Ravens and instead could be traded to the Dolphins or the Browns. Lol wat? He's an amazing coach but why would he want to leave the Steady Eddie Ravens and furthermore why would they let him leave? Show him the money.

Is there a fantasy tag for coaches? If not, there should be :-D

If the Jets want him I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole.

[denverYooper]

I could live with this choice.

I would have to choke it down, given his history and the general history of Pats coordinators as HCs.

Winning would help.

[denverYooper]

FWIW, this information is making the rounds

Chris Kouffman
‏ @ckparrot
2h2 hours ago

So what do I hear? I heard a surprising number of veterans, including SURPRISING ones like Frank Gore, Kenny Stills, and especially Cameron Wake, all rose up and disavowed Gase privately. Wake and Stills directly to Steve Ross. Kenyan Drake wanted a trade if Gase remained.

[denverYooper]

Another name in the hopper:

Ian Rapoport
‏Verified account @RapSheet

Sources: #Saints assistant head coach and TEs coach Dan Campbell has been requested by the #Packers and #Browns for HC interviews. He impressed as an interim in Miami.



... still waiting to hear about Kitchens and Monken.

[denverYooper]

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

And now the Packers have requested an HC interview with Steelers’ OL coach Mike Munchak, per league source.

[pbmax]

I really, really, really want Whitt gone.

?? The secondary play was better than at anytime of the last three years? Making him oversee the entire unit solved a lot of communication issues I thought.

[pbmax]

Another name in the hopper:

Ian Rapoport
‏Verified account @RapSheet

Sources: #Saints assistant head coach and TEs coach Dan Campbell has been requested by the #Packers and #Browns for HC interviews. He impressed as an interim in Miami.


... still waiting to hear about Kitchens and Monken.


This guy seems like Sherm Lewis to me.

[Joemailman]

Another name in the hopper:

Ian Rapoport
‏Verified account @RapSheet

Sources: #Saints assistant head coach and TEs coach Dan Campbell has been requested by the #Packers and #Browns for HC interviews. He impressed as an interim in Miami.



... still waiting to hear about Kitchens and Monken.

I wonder if Monken is the front-runner for the Tampa Bay job.

[ThunderDan]

?? The secondary play was better than at anytime of the last three years? Making him oversee the entire unit solved a lot of communication issues I thought.

In another thread I commented on roster turnover. We literally have only one DB still on the team from 2016 and that includes CB and S. The lone survivor is Kentrell Brice. Gone include Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Evans, Gunter, Hawkins, Hyde, Randall, Rollins, Waters, Dorleant, Goodson.

[denverYooper]

rotoworld is keeping a running list of coaching hires and fires, along with snippets about each...

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football-player-news?rw=1

[SavedByGrace]

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/03/report-josh-mcdaniels-showing-interest-in-packers-opening/

Hoodie Jr. looking more and more like the option here. Didn't Brady say that if Rodgers were running the Patriots' offense, he'd throw for 7,000 yards a year? I would definitely be up for giving a shot to McDaniels. Rodgers only has abou 3-4 more years, so why not see if he can light it up in an offense that has been proven to work?

[Bretsky]

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/03/report-josh-mcdaniels-showing-interest-in-packers-opening/

Hoodie Jr. looking more and more like the option here. Didn't Brady say that if Rodgers were running the Patriots' offense, he'd throw for 7,000 yards a year? I would definitely be up for giving a shot to McDaniels. Rodgers only has abou 3-4 more years, so why not see if he can light it up in an offense that has been proven to work?


BRING ME HOODY GENIUS JR !!!

A couple other tidbits form listening to Sports Radio.

Three teams have asked Chicago permission already to interview Fangio (GB not one yet)

Gase has inquiries by nearly every spot with an opening within 3 hours of his firing.

[texaspackerbacker]

Adam Schefter
‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

And now the Packers have requested an HC interview with Steelers’ OL coach Mike Munchak, per league source.

I like the idea of Munchak. Getting a former head coach is a positive thing rather than somebody with no h.c. experience. Munchak might be able to do something to improve our O Line. Also, he comes from a pass-first team with a star QB. I like the idea of McDaniels better, though.

[Bretsky]

I like the idea of Munchak. Getting a former head coach is a positive thing rather than somebody with no h.c. experience. Munchak might be able to do something to improve our O Line. Also, he comes from a pass-first team with a star QB. I like the idea of McDaniels better, though.


Bit torn on Munchak; he was a hard ass OL and as a head coach he's IMO the type of leader you want. And I thought he was the best OL coach in the NFL

But if we're wanting an offensive guru as many hint at he is not it.

There are many I think I'd prefer over him

[pbmax]

https://patriotswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/03/report-josh-mcdaniels-showing-interest-in-packers-opening/

Hoodie Jr. looking more and more like the option here. Didn't Brady say that if Rodgers were running the Patriots' offense, he'd throw for 7,000 yards a year? I would definitely be up for giving a shot to McDaniels. Rodgers only has abou 3-4 more years, so why not see if he can light it up in an offense that has been proven to work?

Not the offense.

If he has the Patriots history of film and institutional knowledge of defenses that he benefitted from, Rodgers throws for 7K.

Junior is not bringing the library or Belichick with him.

[pbmax]

So far I like Kitchen, Monken and maybe Gase if his history check out and the rumored player bad mouthing is just sour grapes. I would be OK with Munchak IF he gets Kitchen or similar to coach the offense and can be expected to resist the urge to make the Packers the Coughlin Jags.

Every other assistant or retread leaves me cold.