Official 2018 Packers at Vikings Game Day II Thread: End the Madness

[pbmax]

Time to end the madness, one way or the other.

[pbmax]

The year long run of play is that the Packers will make enough mistakes and miss enough opportunities and have enough injuries to botch this game.

I am having none of it. I think they are tired of being counted out. Rodgers cannot have liked the Seattle film that has beat guys calling him out. I say he lights it up. There will be the same kinda mistakes. But Davis gets us a big return, Fackrell gets a sack and the Packers play almost a whole game to take it.

[CaptainKickass]

Obligatory game day post.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Fack attack!

[Fritz]

The year long run of play is that the Packers will make enough mistakes and miss enough opportunities and have enough injuries to botch this game.

I am having none of it. I think they are tired of being counted out. Rodgers cannot have liked the Seattle film that has beat guys calling him out. I say he lights it up. There will be the same kinda mistakes. But Davis gets us a big return, Fackrell gets a sack and the Packers play almost a whole game to take it.


I have been predicting a "tease" win since LA.

This is their last chance to fire our hopes before breaking our hearts.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Obligatory game day post steal.

[red]

i'd like to say that this is a must win game, but 8-7-1 could still grab the last wildcard spot

and we could still run the table after tonight to get there

almost seems harder to miss the playoffs then it does to make them this year

[ThunderDan]

Packers have to win tonight. MM has had 10 days to come up with a game plan. I just have a hunch we win big tonight.

Packers 38 - Vikes 17

[red]

The year long run of play is that the Packers will make enough mistakes and miss enough opportunities and have enough injuries to botch this game.

I am having none of it. I think they are tired of being counted out. Rodgers cannot have liked the Seattle film that has beat guys calling him out. I say he lights it up. There will be the same kinda mistakes. But Davis gets us a big return, Fackrell gets a sack and the Packers play almost a whole game to take it.

i can easily see a-rod lighting it up tonight, to make a point

but i have been waiting for him to have a special game all year

[Bretsky]

i'd like to say that this is a must win game, but 8-7-1 could still grab the last wildcard spot

and we could still run the table after tonight to get there

almost seems harder to miss the playoffs then it does to make them this year



I PREDICT A WIN

I just watched Denver upset Pittsburg and they have an ez schedule from here on in

It will be the same for Green Bay

Upset tonight

Then we win all but one (lose to the Bears), sneak in, and MM keeps his job

[KYPack]

i can easily see a-rod lighting it up tonight, to make a point

but i have been waiting for him to have a special game all year

Got bad vibes, but I hope we pull one out.

This could be the start of a radical turnaround for the Pack.

A downturn that is.

[red]

Packers have to win tonight. MM has had 10 days to come up with a game plan. I just have a hunch we win big tonight.

Packers 38 - Vikes 17

what happens if the queens come up with an answer to that gameplan though?

m3 can't adjust

i like what they just said on NBC. teams like the saint and pats are running fancy algebra offenses, we're running a first grade math offense. the same offense we've been running since favre was our QB

kinda weird that it takes rookies so long to learn an offense that is so simple and outdated

[pbmax]

Score prediction:

Pack 31 - Vikes 22

But closer than it looks.

[red]

why are they doing a favre pre game bit?

ohhhh, because he's a traitor that went to the queens

got it

[pbmax]

why are they doing a favre pre game bit?

ohhhh, because he's a traitor that went to the queens

got it

I wonder if Don Horn ever thought Bart should just stay away.

[pbmax]

Jeebus

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds4ufDEVYAEwlQd.jpg

[pbmax]

Hold on, is Allison (My Aim Is True) available to play?

G-Mo? G-Mo and Scantron might make for an interesting night on offense.

Defensive backfield is Jaire Alexander, Josh Jackson, Tony Brown and Will Redmond at CB.

Tramontana at safety with, I dunno, MD Jennings I am guessing.

EDIT: Doc Jennings can return to patient care. Kentrell Brice and his rolling ankles are back tonight.

[red]

another favre bit

[pbmax]

Green Bay Packers
8 QB Tim Boyle
18 WR Randall Cobb
20 CB Kevin King
26 CB Bashaud Breeland
36 S Raven Greene
70 T/G Alex Light
76 DL Mike Daniels

Minnesota Vikings
1 QB Kyle Sloter
12 WR Chad Beebe
34 S Andrew Sendejo
42 LB Ben Gedeon
44 RB Mike Boone
89 TE David Morgan
92 DT Jalyn Holmes

[beveaux1]

G-Mo is on IR.

[esoxx]

Pb losing it

[pbmax]

Hold on, is Allison (My Aim Is True) available to play?

G-Mo? G-Mo and Scantron might make for an interesting night on offense.

Defensive backfield is Jaire Alexander, Josh Jackson, Tony Brown and Will Redmond at CB.

Tramontana at safety with, I dunno, MD Jennings I am guessing.

EDIT: Doc Jennings can return to patient care. Kentrell Brice and his rolling ankles are back tonight.


OK, yes, I am an idiot. Forgot he is on IR now.

[pbmax]

Pb losing it

My poster rating is still high but my catch rate of actual facts has fallen to a career low of 47%. Or Finley in a contract year status.

[esoxx]

My poster rating is still high but my catch rate of actual facts has fallen to a career low of 47%. Or Finley in a contract year status.

Past your prime;-)

[Rastak]

Good evening guys..game on!

[pbmax]

Past your prime;-)

And I never got paid. Can’t wait for my sad 30 for 30.

[denverYooper]

I have been predicting a "tease" win since LA.

This is their last chance to fire our hopes before breaking our hearts.

Tease win or turnaround win, life's just a little bit brighter when the Packers beat the Vikings.

[pbmax]

Good evening guys..game on!

Have the Vikings been overcome with the flu this week?

Just asking, not hoping.

[Rastak]

Have the Vikings been overcome with the flu this week?

Just asking, not hoping.

Not that I am aware of...

[ThunderDan]

The nfl should make the queens get rid of that horn.

[Gotarace]

And here we go

[esoxx]

Time to break a collar bone.

It's only fair.

[Rastak]

The nfl should make the queens get rid of that horn.


Only if the idiotic leap shit gets banned.

[esoxx]

The nfl should make the queens get rid of that horn.

+1

[ThunderDan]

I like tha Alexander is agressive on the tackles and coverage. He doesn’t wait for the ball to get to him. He attacks.

[esoxx]

Only if the idiotic leap shit gets banned.

+1

[Rastak]

+1Essox is a balanced and thoughtful fellow.

[ThunderDan]

Only if the idiotic leap shit gets banned.


So idiotic that teams all over the nfl are copying it, ha ha ha.

[Gotarace]

vike desperation

[Rastak]

Genius move there , bring in 12 guys to go for it....

[Gotarace]

lol stole the 12 men from the Packers Playbook after a timeout

[Rastak]

So idiotic that teams all over the nfl are copying it, ha ha ha.

The world is chock full of morons.

[ThunderDan]

Block in the back.

[denverYooper]

Packers-like sequence for Minnesota right there.

[esoxx]

Essox is a balanced and thoughtful fellow.

I liked the Lambeau Leap at first but after a while it felt contrived and forced.

No thank you.

[ThunderDan]

The world is chock full of morons.

That is true.

[Gotarace]

WTF 2 runs in a row?

[pbmax]

Sometimes I hate watching football. Nothing exciting about 12 men on the field after a timeout.

[Teamcheez1]

Different day, same offense.

[Rastak]

You catch the hold Thunder....?


Isn’t that a penalty for being the first to touch it after going out of bounds..? I sense weird game...

[pbmax]

Bell and Bulaga don’t work well together.

[beveaux1]

Two series...nothing.

[Rastak]

I went all in on the pickem league for the Vikes but in reality I am far from supremely confident.

[beveaux1]

WTF 2 runs in a row?

We're asking for more runs.

[ThunderDan]

You catch the hold Thunder....?


Isn’t that a penalty for being the first to touch it after going out of bounds..? I sense weird game...

Surprised it wasn’t illegal touching. Adams was reset on the field which should have drawn the flag and the pass should have been a completion. Vikings would accept and Packers rerun 3 and very long.

[denverYooper]

9-6 game, here we come.

[pbmax]

Anyone believe Packers are generally tackling better this year?

[ThunderDan]

Alexander attacking again.

[Rastak]

Lol.....that was dumb as shit...

[Gotarace]

Wow what a play Alexander

[Teamcheez1]

The Vikings are making the Packers look good.

[pbmax]

I’ve been to the Mall of America. It’s a mall.

[pbmax]

Good hit rook.

[ThunderDan]

Alexander is going to be a Superstar if he stays healthy.

[Gotarace]

Cousins looks like Shit...Thank You

[Rastak]

Cousins looks like Shit...Thank You


He does....it’s early though...

[pbmax]

Alexander is in their heads!?

[beveaux1]

Another series. same result.

[denverYooper]

The race to .500 is neck-and-neck.

[ThunderDan]

Bad fair catch there. Davis left 7-15 yards on the table there.

[denverYooper]

Alexander is going to be a Superstar if he stays healthy.

That is a big ask for a member of Green Bay's secondary.

[Gotarace]

Were playing for the second Tie of the season

[beveaux1]

Let's see if we abandon the run.

[pbmax]

Bad fair catch there. Davis left 7-15 yards on the table there.

Yeah. That was weird. I’m glad he is back but he’s not finished learning the position yet.

[pbmax]

Let's see if we abandon the run.

Get out of the shotgun OR get into pistol.

[esoxx]

Aaron Jones is good.

[Rastak]

Bad fair catch there. Davis left 7-15 yards on the table there.

Ye, he could have got a few yards there.

[pbmax]

Nice job leaping for the first.

[Rastak]

Not sure he would caught that but he grabbed his arm.

[pbmax]

Alright. Jet sweep with actual speed.

Let’s see them build something off it.

[ThunderDan]

Did he say Sam Bradford on that run.

[denverYooper]

Let's see if we abandon the run.

Gotta wait until Jones scores a TD and picks up about 75 yards. Then it'll be time to phase it out.

[ThunderDan]

Other than stop his momentum Chris.

[denverYooper]

Pain point #1 - Red Zone inefficiencies.

Let's see if we have it fixed yet.

[Rastak]

Cool his parents are there...

[pbmax]

Liking them being under center.

[ThunderDan]

TD Adams.

[Rastak]

Good start for the Packers...

[pbmax]

Pain point #1 - Red Zone inefficiencies.

Let's see if we have it fixed yet.

Good anti jinx

[beveaux1]

Didn't abandon the run. TD Adams.

[Rastak]

Modern music certainly is irritating. Bring back Motown.

Prompted by a commercial...

[denverYooper]

Pain point #1 - Red Zone inefficiencies.

Let's see if we have it fixed yet.

Good start.

[ThunderDan]

Run, run, pass - people bitch. People bitch we will then adondon the run.

I think pregame we all need to state our desired run/pass ratio and then can only bitch when we fall out of a specific range.

[pbmax]

10 offensive plays. Let’s see how we do after script.

[ThunderDan]

Come on Jones make that tackle.

[denverYooper]

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‏Verified account @RobDemovsky
3m3 minutes ago

Another red-zone touchdown for Davante Adams, who caught a back-shoulder fade against Xavier Rhodes. That's an NFL-leading nine red-zone touchdowns for Adams this season

So the solution is to keep throwing to Davante.

[pbmax]

No depth in LB drop. That was zone.

[beveaux1]

Easy Peasy

[pbmax]

No one was out there.

[Rastak]

NFL was stupid the allow these dumb fucking celebrations. I’d ban ALL of it.

[pbmax]

NFL was stupid the allow these dumb fucking celebrations. I’d ban ALL of it.

Are you crazy? They can be the best part of the game.

You are getting old dear Ras.

[ThunderDan]

Martinez needs to not let the OL block him to the inside. He needed to force that back to the middle and limit that to a 15 yard game.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

NFL was stupid the allow these dumb fucking celebrations. I’d ban ALL of it.

I thought it was funny, though I hate the TD.

[Rastak]

*sigh* hand the ball to the ref like Jim Brown. have some dignity....

[Guiness]

Wheels fell off the defense on that TD.

[beveaux1]

I really kind of like our defense, but we're limited. Two top notch receivers stress us. Add in a tight end that can catch and a RB that can catch. That's a recipe for disaster.

[Guiness]

*sigh* hand the ball to the ref like Jim Brown. have some dignity....

I think CC agrees with you - he was like 'heh heh heh'

[ThunderDan]

Good throw and catch to St. Brown.

[pbmax]

11 plays. Two TE offense.

[pbmax]

12 plays actual Kendrick’s grab.

[ThunderDan]

Good scramble and rocket from ARod.

[Guiness]

Martinez needs to not let the OL block him to the inside. He needed to force that back to the middle and limit that to a 15 yard game.

Good description of what went wrong there.

[pbmax]

13 plays deep route. Nice movement in pocket.

[Rastak]

No fucking defense...

[ThunderDan]

Great 9 yard run up the middle.

[pbmax]

Jones is so short he is always low man. 14 plays inside zone.

[denverYooper]

One of the Packers failed 3rd down attempts last week was a play where he looked to be expecting ESB to come back to the ball. So far, it looks like they sorted that out.

[Guiness]

Apparently my feed is a couple of minutes behind, I read about the Kendricks catch before I saw the St-Brown one!

[pbmax]

Rodgers extended offense. Try to draw offside WR screen. One man screen the only one that works.

15 th play. Looked like Rodgers killed a call.

[beveaux1]

Vikings have to have at least 7 in the box. That really helps Adams.

[pbmax]

Vikings have to have at least 7 in the box. That really helps Adams.

Vikes watched first half packer film.

[denverYooper]

Red Zone series #2. Do they go to 50% or 100%?

[esoxx]

Bikes watched first half packer film.

losing it

[pbmax]

16th play screen on end around and fake jet sweep.

[Rastak]

That was too easy...

[ThunderDan]

Almost a walk in TD.

[pbmax]

17th play right out of reg playbook. Toss sweep TD.

[beveaux1]

Easy Peasy..

[pbmax]

losing it

This is same iPad that gave us SPRIGGS!

[pbmax]

Tipped ball still completed.

[ThunderDan]

Man, Jones tipped and was still caught.

[pbmax]

Fackrell cannot shed and tackle. ~wist

[ThunderDan]

Alexander all over Thelin.

[pbmax]

I don’t understand that zone.

[denverYooper]

Nice jam by Alexander

[ThunderDan]

Darn it. Would have loved to get a punt there.

[mraynrand]

Alexander all over Thelin.

learn the rules and then learn how to break them without getting a penalty

[pbmax]

Man on one side zone on other. But why be behind the sticks/?

[Rastak]

learn the rules and then learn how to break them without getting a penalty


Exactly...

[Rastak]

All by his lonesome...

[ThunderDan]

Tramonta waits for the player instead of attacking like Alexander, first Dow n Minn.

[mraynrand]

Man on one side zone on other. But why be behind the sticks/?

you saw who it was, no?

[pbmax]

Fackrell was no help on Diggs catch and run.

[beveaux1]

Too easy.

[esoxx]

Shootout brewing

[Teamcheez1]

How the hell do you not cover Diggs two plays in a row?

[pbmax]

you saw who it was, no?

Jackson behind stick I think.

[mraynrand]

Tramonta waits for the player instead of attacking like Alexander, first Dow n Minn.

he can't. way too slow to risk it.

[Rastak]

Great defense on display here on both sides.

[mraynrand]

good pick

[beveaux1]

Too many weapons and we can't pressure without exotic blitzes.

[mraynrand]

beginning of season: Tramonta = stop gap
now: Tramonta = stop virtually nothing

[pbmax]

Jackson behind stick I think.

Was josh Jackson and Morrison.

[ThunderDan]

he can't. way too slow to risk it.

Rather die in one quick shot then a for sure 100 cuts.

[pbmax]

beginning of season: Tramonta = stop gap
now: Tramonta = stop virtually nothing

Him as safety was really over hyped.

[beveaux1]

beginning of season: Tramonta = stop gap
now: Tramonta = stop virtually nothing

Tramontana was playing deep safety. Corner who had him blitzed.

[denverYooper]

It's heartwarming to read text conversations between players and coaches. NBC is so modern!

[pbmax]

Williams in on 18th play.

[mraynrand]

Tramontana was playing deep safety. Corner who had him blitzed.

on the pick play?

[ThunderDan]

Jumped to early.

[pbmax]

19th play dive to HB.

[ThunderDan]

Jumped to early.

Not sure where early is but he went there.

[Rastak]

Tom Johnson is good...

[yetisnowman]

Jimmy Graham straight stealing money

[Teamcheez1]

Graham was wide open and Rodgers missed him for the first down.

[pbmax]

Ok so is that pressure or should he have stood in and check down?

20th play unknow due to pressure.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Shit graham was open...quit playing like brooks fucking bollinger butte!

[denverYooper]

Trevor Davis seems to be a 1 man ST improvement so far.

[pbmax]

Graham was wide open and Rodgers missed him for the first down.

If you mean hit him in hands overhead of coverage then I agree.

[ThunderDan]

Janis who? Good punt coverage by Davis.

[mraynrand]

Graham was wide open and Rodgers missed him for the first down.

ugly

[pbmax]

Shit graham was open...quit playing like brooks fucking bollinger butte!

He missed a ball in his HANDS!

[Rastak]

Shit graham was open...quit playing like brooks fucking bollinger butte!

Don’t remind me of that dude Tank....

[mraynrand]

If you mean hit him in hands overhead of coverage then I agree.

no, missed him on third down. He was wide open 5 yards away

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Recall how bollinger we used to run whenever 1sr read ain’t open. I was like you ain’t Vick, throw the ball!!!!

[ThunderDan]

Graham was wide open and Rodgers missed him for the first down.

I thought the same thing until I saw the replay. ARod had two hands on ball to stop strip sack and got taken down before he could get back into throwing position.

[mraynrand]

I thought the same thing until I saw the replay. ARod had two hands on ball to stop strip sack and got taken down before he could get back into throwing position.

Favre woulda thrown a one hand toss. ;)

[pbmax]

no, missed him on third down. He was wide open 5 yards away

Oh thought that was Williams. So I ask again pressure or failure to checkdown?

[Teamcheez1]

If you mean hit him in hands overhead of coverage then I agree.

On the sack, Graham was running wide open at the first down sticks. For whatever reason, Rodgers did not make the read and dump the ball off prior to being sacked.

[ThunderDan]

Good run stop by Clay.

[mraynrand]

Oh thought that was Williams. So I ask again pressure or failure to checkdown?

Seems like he's waiting too long to look for the checkdown. He looks for it right away, the balls out in a second.

[Rastak]

Nice fucking grab....

[ThunderDan]

Drill him in the ribs Jones.

[denverYooper]

Alexander will grab one of those. Keep trying it.

[pbmax]

Answer own question: Rodgers saw Johnson get edge on Bulaga and wanted to move right away. Little skittish

[Teamcheez1]

Josh Jones was a moron for not making that play. It was plain easy to break the pass up.

[pbmax]

I don’t think josh jones can play safety.

[mraynrand]

Cousins is a guy you have to shake up. You have to hit the guy or he gets too comfortable.

[Rastak]

3rd and short...

[denverYooper]

Seems like he's waiting too long to look for the checkdown. He looks for it right away, the balls out in a second.

What's that saying about an old dog?

[pbmax]

Jones stayed high to catch the int. But was in no position to hit the receiver legally because of it.

[Teamcheez1]

Playing like the old Capers defense tonight.

[ThunderDan]

So Minn has used up 2 time outs. Rastak not calling for Zimmers head.

[pbmax]

Playing like the old Capers defense tonight.

No pressure.

[mraynrand]

What's that saying about an old dog?

Yeah, but there he was looking to pick up the first with a run. Not a bad play, but the Vikings D line was pretty wily on that one.

[Rastak]

So Minn has used up 2 time outs. Rastak not calling for Zimmers head. nope....;-)

That didn’t come close to working...

[pbmax]

Bad play call on that defensive front.

[ThunderDan]

Adams with a good shed of the G to help on the TFL.

[mraynrand]

Mt. Adams!

[mraynrand]

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[mraynrand]

"Packers D holds" :)

[beveaux1]

Adams going to get a little playing time on D for the rest of the season.

[pbmax]

Kickers in the NFC North used to be as reliable as rain. Not so much now.

Where have you gone
Robbie Gould
The north turns its lonely eyes to you

[mraynrand]

Viking offense has really nice pace so far. Ball is generally coming out really fast. Packers should apply extra pressure until Vikings show they are willing to run the ball.

[Rastak]

Kickers in the NFC North used to be as reliable as rain. Not so much now.

Where have you gone
Robbie Gould
The north turns its lonely eyes to you

Or even Ryan Longwell...

[denverYooper]

Cousins is a guy you have to shake up. You have to hit the guy or he gets too comfortable.

Can we hire Fangio and trade for Mack? It's too bad we didn't draft TJ Watt. King is injured again.

Pettine usually seems to adjust and bring more in the back half of the game. Vs Cousins he might have done well to bring some of that early and get him off kilter.

[pbmax]

Play 21. Empty backfield deep to ESB

[ThunderDan]

That should not be a foul. Uncaring halve.

[pbmax]

Or even Ryan Longwell...

Yep

[Rastak]

Viking offense has really nice pace so far. Ball is generally coming out really fast. Packers should apply extra pressure until Vikings show they are willing to run the ball.

True dat....

[pbmax]

Play 22 backyard ball no agreement on routes.

[mraynrand]

I don't like uncatchable on interference. How do they know the QB didn't adjust throw, etc. because of the interference?

[denverYooper]

Pain point #2 - 3rd down offensive struggles.

Can they fix it?

[pbmax]

Play 23 jones in game. Stretch run to nowhere

[ThunderDan]

That should not be a foul. Uncaring halve.

I love autocorrect.

[pbmax]

Play 24 penalty on D

[Rastak]

I don't like uncatchable on interference. How do they know the QB didn't adjust throw, etc. because of the interference?

I might agree but it was wayyyyy out of bounds....

[mraynrand]

Receivers have to get better fighting back to the ball. Get more interference calls that way.

[denverYooper]

GO FOR IT.

[Teamcheez1]

The offense is useless on 3rd and short.

[Rastak]

I hate that shit.....makes for wonderful viewing...

[pbmax]

Play 24a. Too much pass rush and coverage

[Teamcheez1]

MM with no balls to go for it on 4th down.

[ThunderDan]

Glad we didn’t go for it. Tight game and we get the ball first in the 2nd half.

[pbmax]

I hate that. Go for it.

[mraynrand]

MN declined? Fake

[Rastak]

Glad we didn’t go for it. Tight game and we get the ball first in the 2nd half.

I’m mostly conservative in football so I would agree.

[Guiness]

Ras, I feel for ya on that missed fg!

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm here. How many calls to fire Stubby have I missed?

[Teamcheez1]

2nd game in a row where MM would rather punt and have a depleted defense take the field.

[Fosco33]

What a joke. Season on the line and you punt. Can’t wait to fire him b

[pbmax]

Play 24a. Too much pass rush and coverage

Naked RB screen. Pick play.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I’m mostly conservative in football so I would agree.

Conservatism achieves little in politics and in football.

There you go. NBC just showed the math. Gotta go for it!!!

[denverYooper]

Campbell can hit, there's that.

[ThunderDan]

Don’t call time out. That kills us every week before half.

[pbmax]

Fackrell did not make the tackle but excellent at staying in gap and forcing runner into tackle.

[mraynrand]

Nice fill by Campbell

[pbmax]

Horrible tackling.

[ThunderDan]

2nd game in a row where MM would rather punt and have a depleted defense take the field.

Different situations completely.

[mraynrand]

Naked RB screen. Pick play.

a TE running straight through that will go big

[Teamcheez1]

Terrible tackling.

[beveaux1]

Josh Jones looked so bad on that pass to Cook.

[mraynrand]

Arm tackle by Lowry

[denverYooper]

2nd game in a row where MM would rather punt and have a depleted defense take the field.

A little different scenario but I would rather see them be aggressive.

[Teamcheez1]

Different situations completely.

Playing to win or playing to let an injured defense make the stop?

[pbmax]

a TE running straight through that will go big

Through the pick or on the screen?

[Bretsky]

Fackrell cannot shed and tackle. ~wist

What is your view on Fackrell ?

Is he a legitimate starting long term OLB ?

[mraynrand]

Josh Jones looked so bad on that pass to Cook.

Cook can play some football too

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The mule starring client Eastwood. I thought it was no country for old men 2.

[ThunderDan]

Playing to win or playing to let an injured defense make the stop?

Still 30+ minutes to go. Different than 4 minutes with 1 time out left.