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pbmax
12-10-2018, 01:38 PM
Reggie was fired for having the unmitigated gall to take Gruden seriously and trade Mack and Cooper.

Seriously, he was fired because he was already on the way out the day Gruden was hired and blaming him for the trades will make Raiders fans in Las Vegas forget about the dope actually in charge of their team for an offseason.

Pugger
12-10-2018, 01:46 PM
Do you guys think he'd come back to GB or will he go to Cleveland?

pbmax
12-10-2018, 01:49 PM
Do you guys think he'd come back to GB or will he go to Cleveland?

Good question. Reggie worked the Pro side for a long time and I think he mentored Wolf the Younger.

Will be interesting to see what he does. He might hold out for a GM gig. The roster before Gruden was pretty good.

mraynrand
12-10-2018, 02:53 PM
The only reason he didn't resign has to be the $$$. Still, he probably should have resigned instead of being fired. Even though I don't think all that much of his talents (as GM) , he deserved better.

mraynrand
12-10-2018, 02:57 PM
Do you guys think he'd come back to GB or will he go to Cleveland?

He was a pretty good pro-personnel guy. Go somewhere his talents will be used. Cleveland is pretty stocked in pro-personnel (Wolf is head with three assistants), and he might be perceived as a threat to Wolf and Highsmith if he's hired.

Guiness
12-10-2018, 05:05 PM
What's Oakland gave for this? From this vantage it sure looked like he was doing a good job - Mack, Cooper, Carr are a good core. I honestly don't understand why that was blown up, except that Gruden wants to be able to say it's all him if they are successful?

gbgary
12-10-2018, 05:43 PM
oak was on such a good road but mark davis has driven it off a bridge this year. what a shame.

pbmax
12-10-2018, 09:38 PM
oak was on such a good road but mark davis has driven it off a bridge this year. what a shame.

Gruden will sell more season tickets in Las Vegas than Reggie McKenzie will.

Mark Davis is slowly learning how to play the game. He took Adelson and LV for a ride. Now he is riding Gruden. If he can get his butt out of his share of debt for the Stadium, he will really have realized a return on the team his old man hadn't done since LA.

The football will be subpar though.

ThunderDan
12-10-2018, 09:53 PM
Gruden will sell more season tickets in Las Vegas than Reggie McKenzie will.

Mark Davis is slowly learning how to play the game. He took Adelson and LV for a ride. Now he is riding Gruden. If he can get his butt out of his share of debt for the Stadium, he will really have realized a return on the team his old man hadn't done since LA.

The football will be subpar though.
Gruden didn’t sell a ticket In Vegas. MGM and Caesar’s bought all the tickets. There will be more visitors than home fans each week. Want to go to the game in Vegas? It is going to cost you a 2 night stay on the strip or top of the tickets unless you are gambling big.

pbmax
12-10-2018, 10:05 PM
Gruden didn’t sell a ticket In Vegas. MGM and Caesar’s bought all the tickets. There will be more visitors than home fans each week. Want to go to the game in Vegas? It is going to cost you a 2 night stay on the strip or top of the tickets unless you are gambling big.

You sure they bought them all?

http://lasvegasstadium.raiders.com

ThunderDan
12-10-2018, 10:10 PM
You sure they bought them all?

http://lasvegasstadium.raiders.com

40 -50 thousand I heard when I was in Vegas in May. The hotel groups were drooling over getting the tickets.

gbgary
12-10-2018, 11:06 PM
people will be going to see the teams coming in...not the raiders. if i were in vegas for the weekend i wouldn't go to a game there unless GB were playing them. the black hole guys might make that trip every week though lol.

Tony Oday
12-11-2018, 07:35 AM
It's like the Golden Knights. Going there for a Wild game in March.

pbmax
12-11-2018, 08:40 AM
40 -50 thousand I heard when I was in Vegas in May. The hotel groups were drooling over getting the tickets.

OK, but at 65,000 capacity, still not a sell out. Gruden is doing marketing work. Local interest will only help the bottom line.

pbmax
12-11-2018, 08:46 AM
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ThunderDan
12-11-2018, 10:37 AM
OK, but at 65,000 capacity, still not a sell out. Gruden is doing marketing work. Local interest will only help the bottom line.

They casinos will grab whatever tickets are left. I think they capped what the casinos could grab on the first run around. The Belagio exec that I talked to said the 40-50k tickets were sold in 15 minutes to the casinos after tickets were available.

pbmax
12-11-2018, 12:33 PM
They casinos will grab whatever tickets are left. I think they capped what the casinos could grab on the first run around. The Belagio exec that I talked to said the 40-50k tickets were sold in 15 minutes to the casinos after tickets were available.

The Redskins used to claim that the waiting list had grown to 200,000 while they were putrid and still sending out marketing emails to people to ask them to buy season tickets. I find the idea that they are selling season ticket packages online, and taking deposits, to be strong evidence the casino's haven't snapped up all the tickets.

Could Davis be running a scam and planning to collect for a few hundred thou in non-refundable deposits? Sure, I'd buy that is he is that dumb, reckless and greedy. But not without more info.

ThunderDan
12-11-2018, 12:43 PM
The Redskins used to claim that the waiting list had grown to 200,000 while they were putrid and still sending out marketing emails to people to ask them to buy season tickets. I find the idea that they are selling season ticket packages online, and taking deposits, to be strong evidence the casino's haven't snapped up all the tickets.

Could Davis be running a scam and planning to collect for a few hundred thou in non-refundable deposits? Sure, I'd buy that is he is that dumb, reckless and greedy. But not without more info.
I believe the casino exec over anyone else. We were talking ticket packages and hotel stays. The Belagio was already putting together packages that while the "men" were at the game the "women" would having a spa day. The exec said they wanted to snap up every ticket available. They know they can draw more than 70,000 to Las Vegas from the away team every week.

pbmax
12-11-2018, 12:48 PM
I believe the casino exec over anyone else. We were talking ticket packages and hotel stays. The Belagio was already putting together packages that while the "men" were at the game the "women" would having a spa day. The exec said they wanted to snap up every ticket available. They know they can draw more than 70,000 to Las Vegas from the away team every week.

I believe that is their desire. I just don't think that having an entire stadium of tourists will play well locally. So the casinos will get their share, but not all of them.

I also believe a lot of people buying season tickets will sell on secondary market to help finance the purchase.

QBME
12-11-2018, 03:51 PM
I believe that is their desire. I just don't think that having an entire stadium of tourists will play well locally. So the casinos will get their share, but not all of them.



I dunno. I think there will be all sorts of packages offered to the spectrum of incomes. Shoot, darn near every bar, restaurant, gas station is a casino in Clark County. As long as the economy isn't in full tank mode Vegas will be an affordable weekend destination for all. Plenty of Red Roof Inn level hotels and similar level taverns. I think the locals will embrace the influx.

I wonder if the Raiders will have an actual fan base. One that will travel to away games.

My biggest dread of going to a Packers game in Vegas would be the security lines for the outbound flight from McCarran International, no matter what my airline status would be. I imagine March Madness x 5, and they are ugly.

gbgary
12-11-2018, 03:57 PM
they should go full XFL and change their name to the Vegas Tumbling Dice.

ThunderDan
12-11-2018, 04:42 PM
My biggest dread of going to a Packers game in Vegas would be the security lines for the outbound flight from McCarran International, no matter what my airline status would be. I imagine March Madness x 5, and they are ugly.

Stay until Tuesday and miss the crowd at the airport.

QBME
12-11-2018, 04:58 PM
they should go full XFL and change their name to the Vegas Tumbling Dice.

Nice - an homage to the Stones?

Bretsky
12-11-2018, 06:45 PM
Gruden pushes to clean the talent and Reggie gets fired. Off the Cleveland soon prolly