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call_me_ishmael
12-16-2018, 12:48 AM
Man, Fit Eddie Lacy was something else. Some damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veznku2_x70

Other thoughts: Dang, that offense was good then even with Flynn-sanity. What happened??

Losing Shields to go with Randall being a dingleberry and Rollins not being a player really hurt this team. Shields, Hayward and Hyde all left the team and the guys to take their spot couldn't hack it. Dang.

Whatever happened to Andy Quarless? I always thought he was alright as a back-up.

I think everybody in the league knew the shit with Matthews, Peppers and Neal was legit. Neal never played again after that.

mraynrand
12-16-2018, 12:58 AM
Glory is fleeting, isn’t it?

Bretsky
12-16-2018, 07:19 AM
Losing Shields really hurt at that time; and to boot shortly after TT turned to junk.

I think Quarless was a character risk and I think they moved on from him

Joemailman
12-16-2018, 07:56 AM
Man, Fit Eddie Lacy was something else. Some damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veznku2_x70

Other thoughts: Dang, that offense was good then even with Flynn-sanity. What happened??

Losing Shields to go with Randall being a dingleberry and Rollins not being a player really hurt this team. Shields, Hayward and Hyde all left the team and the guys to take their spot couldn't hack it. Dang.

Whatever happened to Andy Quarless? I always thought he was alright as a back-up.

I think everybody in the league knew the shit with Matthews, Peppers and Neal was legit. Neal never played again after that.

That team had Lang and Sitton at Guard. Big difference. That pocket didn't collapse often. This team has guys at Guard who wouldn't start for a lot of teams. Gutey needs to change that.

Teamcheez1
12-16-2018, 09:48 AM
I thought it was big news that Milt Hedrickson was hired into the scouting department this week. I think Gute is moving further away from the TT model putting his own stamp on the organization now.

Joemailman
12-16-2018, 09:59 AM
I thought it was big news that Milt Hedrickson was hired into the scouting department this week. I think Gute is moving further away from the TT model putting his own stamp on the organization now.

Yes he is. Hendrickson has Wisconsin ties, but not Packer ties. Gutey wanted to hire him last year, but Ozzie Newsome blocked it. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/14/packers-expected-to-hire-ravens-national-scout-milt-hendrickson/ If this happens, unlikely Reggie McKenzie will be coming here.

Pugger
12-16-2018, 10:05 AM
Losing Shields really hurt at that time; and to boot shortly after TT turned to junk.

I think Quarless was a character risk and I think they moved on from him

I'm really surprised Shields is playing tbh.

pbmax
12-16-2018, 10:25 AM
This might be the best game of Jones, Quarless and Neal's career. Highlights, anyway.

pbmax
12-16-2018, 10:27 AM
Yes he is. Hendrickson has Wisconsin ties, but not Packer ties. Gutey wanted to hire him last year, but Ozzie Newsome blocked it. https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/14/packers-expected-to-hire-ravens-national-scout-milt-hendrickson/ If this happens, unlikely Reggie McKenzie will be coming here.

His focus is offensive lineman, apparently. Only the Packers could get a good scout hire from the Ravens and not have it be for Defense.

Joemailman
12-16-2018, 11:19 AM
His focus is offensive lineman, apparently. Only the Packers could get a good scout hire from the Ravens and not have it be for Defense.

I'm okay with it. Packers haven't drafted a good offensive lineman since Linsley in 2014. They need to get back to that.

red
12-16-2018, 12:09 PM
That hit a packer

Should be bears ball inside the 5

Edit, how the fuck did this reply end up here?

SavedByGrace
12-16-2018, 07:47 PM
I think everybody in the league knew the shit with Matthews, Peppers and Neal was legit. Neal never played again after that.

To what exactly are you referring?

esoxx
12-16-2018, 07:52 PM
To what exactly are you referring?

Juicing

mraynrand
12-16-2018, 10:05 PM
I think everybody in the league knew the shit with Matthews, Peppers and Neal was legit. Neal never played again after that.

You can see Clay's aggresiveness has waned, but on the good side, his head has stopped shrinking.

George Cumby
12-16-2018, 10:31 PM
You can see Clay's aggresiveness has waned, but on the good side, his head has stopped shrinking.

His man-boobs too.

gbgary
12-17-2018, 10:10 AM
Glory is fleeting, isn’t it?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V6ZauAzZlqs/UaQNukGqQFI/AAAAAAAADCo/pygN-S2-sCI/s1600/Patton-01.jpg

run pMc
12-17-2018, 01:05 PM
One thing that's interesting is it seems there were more slants or middle of the field throws. Have teams figured out how to defend back-shoulder throws? I'm thinking MVS hasn't figured them out how to run them for Rodgers yet, otherwise most CB's would be terrified of his speed and allow those all day. Jarrett freakin Boykin was making plays.

Also, I noticed M3 didn't abandon the run with the team down 23 at the half, or down 12 with 7 minutes left in the game. Sometimes, the football gods reward when you don't panic.

Iron Mike
12-17-2018, 04:00 PM
Man it seemed like the Queens really had difficulties with #27....I notice Harrison Smith routinely showing up a second or two AFTER someone else gets Lacy down:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpJpv_KBdQg

gbgary
12-18-2018, 07:04 PM
Clark is on IR now.

pbmax
12-18-2018, 07:40 PM
So is Jones.

denverYooper
12-19-2018, 08:51 AM
I'm a bit surprised Rodgers is not.

Maybe they're just going to let him play to work through his funk.

pbmax
12-19-2018, 09:23 AM
If they had a plausible pretext they would. But I think its going to be first half, second half kind of deal. Kizer in late under whatever excuse the game allows.

run pMc
12-19-2018, 09:24 AM
Man it seemed like the Queens really had difficulties with #27....I notice Harrison Smith routinely showing up a second or two AFTER someone else gets Lacy down

LOLOL at Smith. One of my favorite plays of Eddie was where bowled over Robert Blanton and knocked his helmet off. He intimidated the Vikings secondary.

call_me_ishmael
01-14-2019, 02:03 PM
The real off-season question. Is this the real inflate gate?

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/1084519715530334208

mraynrand
01-14-2019, 02:21 PM
The real off-season question. Is this the real inflate gate?

https://twitter.com/SBNation/status/1084519715530334208


I heard he was wearing the medical tent. Doctors are at work inside.

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pbmax
01-14-2019, 04:34 PM
I heard he was wearing the medical tent. Doctors are at work inside.

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2017 %2F01%2F23%2F11%2F3C6B6F8000000578-0-image-a-22_1485169629459.jpg&f=1

Stem cell injections to problematic organs and joints.

Probably too early to adopt nanites. Would be painful if those boys froze in your hip.

call_me_ishmael
01-17-2019, 12:42 PM
TJ Watt is a pro bowler and a player with an extremely bright future, and Kevin King is a player with a trajectory towards consistently being injured :'(

QBME
01-17-2019, 07:56 PM
TJ Watt is a pro bowler and a player with an extremely bright future, and Kevin King is a player with a trajectory towards consistently being injured :'(

I have hope for KK. 23 years old, still filling in physically. Understands the game. Fast and smart. Hope he begins to understand the CB role, as he's been trying to cover for weak LB and Safety responsibilities.

call_me_ishmael
01-23-2019, 11:02 AM
https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/status/1088118759909478400

Interesting thought. Packers OL pretty darn good at pass blocking I guess. LT, RT, and C are, at least.

pbmax
01-23-2019, 01:31 PM
https://twitter.com/zachkruse2/status/1088118759909478400

Interesting thought. Packers OL pretty darn good at pass blocking I guess. LT, RT, and C are, at least.

Its almost as if there are two sides to the pass protection equation.

Fritz
01-23-2019, 01:42 PM
Since this is the looking back thread, I was actually pondering what, for me, were the most painful Packer losses I ever experienced. One, of course, was the Seattle game. The other was the 4th-and-26 game.

While I think Mike Sherman was in over his head trying to both coach and GM, I loved his offense while he was here. Ron Wolf had pretty much stolen Ahman Green from Seattle for a corner named Fred Vinson (a move Seattle paid back later by giving Green Bay the opportunity to move up in the draft to take the inestimable Jamaal Reynolds while Seattle picked up some extra picks and took All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson with the 16th or 17th pick or whatever it was). Favre was Favre, but Green took a lot of pressure off him. I don't recall how well Ahman Green could pass block (though I think it was seen as slightly less important than MM thought it was), but after he started wearing sleeves, he could catch a pass, and the man was an incredible mix of speed, burst, and strength. To me, he's one of the best Packer running backs ever. Ever. Including Hornung and Taylor (though I did not get to see Taylor play as he was traded before I was old enough to understand why my dad was screaming at the television on Sundays), including Lacy at his best, or Brockington at his best, or Eddie Lee Ivery before he got hurt. Green was a monster, an absolute monster. He averaged 5.3 yards per carry in 2003 and he had 50 catches. Yup. 50. Now, he couldn't poop in a laundry basket like Najeh Davenport, but he could do about anything else (including, apparently, abuse his wife, but we'll keep to football here). The dude had, I think, over 1800 yards rushing that year.

And Sherman used him. Sherman had that U-71 thing, with Kevin Barry as an extra tackle, and man, did that work. While Green Bay's defense was not the greatest, it did feature Al Harris and Mike Mckenzie at the corners, KGB, Gilbert Brown, Aaron Kampman, Darren Sharper, Na'il Diggs, and Nick Barnett. But I liked the way Sherman was willing to pound the ball, which freed up Favre. That year, the Packers won their last four in a row to get into the playoffs, while Philly was 12-4 and had the best record in the NFC.

And I was okay with Sherman going for it on fourth-and-goal from the Philly one or two yard line. I was fine with the call - I believe what happened was that one of the right-side offensive linemen got pushed back, and Green actually tripped over his own player's calf, trying to get outside to the wide-open spaces.

But I can't forgive Sherman for punting it back to the Eagles at the end of the game. The Packers had driven from their own sixteen to the Eagles' 38 and used up over five minutes of clock. Ahman Green, who ended the game with - get this - 25 carries for 156 yards, was just ripping through Philly's tired defense. It was fourth and two, maybe. About 2:26 left in the game. One more first down and the game would be about over. (I don't recall how many, if any, timeouts the Eagles had). All Sherman had to do was call one more running play to Green, get that first down, and the Packers would be going to Carolina for the NFC Championship, having taken down the top-ranked team in the NFC.

And Shermy punted. Of course, it went into the end zone, so the Eagles started with just under two-and-a-half minutes left from their own 20. The Packers netted 18 yards of field position. Then came the infamous 4th-and-26. I think the Packers may have had a timeout left - I'm not sure, but I remember screaming at the television (just like my old man) for the Packers to call a timeout before the play to make sure they had their defense set. The Packers did not. A linebacker chipped Mitchell near the line of scrimmage, but other than that the middle of the field was totally free, and McNabb put the ball where he needed to, and that was that.

pbmax
01-23-2019, 01:47 PM
I had forgotten about that decision to punt. Thanks for reminding me.

run pMc
01-23-2019, 02:25 PM
But I can't forgive Sherman for punting it back to the Eagles at the end of the game.

I was apoplectic when he sent out the punter. That was the moment I knew GB was in trouble. I remain convinced to this day they should have gone for it.

Fritz
01-23-2019, 02:31 PM
I had forgotten about that decision to punt. Thanks for reminding me.

I just re-watched the fourth down fail at the end of the first half. About a foot to go to get into the end zone. Eagles' defensive line got great push - on the left middle, actually, and pushed the left guard, I think, back into Green, who tripped for a moment. Then he went right, but by then he didn't have the momentum and there were two Eagles waiting - yet he still nearly made it in.

Makes you think that this might've been the one moment for Sherman to call for play action, then have Favre roll left and look for Bubba Franks crossing from right to left.

pbmax
01-23-2019, 02:36 PM
I just re-watched the fourth down fail at the end of the first half. About a foot to go to get into the end zone. Eagles' defensive line got great push - on the left middle, actually, and pushed the left guard, I think, back into Green, who tripped for a moment. Then he went right, but by then he didn't have the momentum and there were two Eagles waiting - yet he still nearly made it in.

Makes you think that this might've been the one moment for Sherman to call for play action, then have Favre roll left and look for Bubba Franks crossing from right to left.

Bubba blocks, falls down, gets up, catches TD. Surest scoring play in football for an entire year.

I think Tauscher let a guy get a gap on him and in corralling that guy to prevent more penetration, he had to step back. And I think it was his leg that Ahman tripped on.

Just going off memory, could be wrong.