Official Packers vs. Bears II Game Day Thread

[beveaux1]

All the routes looked 20+ yards down the field on 3rd down. Same old, same old.

That's our offense. I don't think we can score a TD against this team by dinking and dunking. It's going to take a big play.

[red]

I hope Philbin told Rodgers last week to just run the offense that he wants to run

And the last 2 weeks are the shot show that have resulted

Maybe Philbin can make arid see the error of his way

[ThunderDan]

Don’t stop 26. Pushing him out.

[red]

Charlie peprah gave up on that play

[beveaux1]

We needed that ball.

[beveaux1]

Who is 98? Good play.

[ThunderDan]

Watch for fake punt.

[beveaux1]

Packers got the turnover. We need points.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

nice awareness.

[denverYooper]

Maybe just me but it looked to me like Rodgers started taking more chances with his throws that drive instead of throwing it away.

[ThunderDan]

98 with the stop on the fake punt.

[Joemailman]

Watch for fake punt.That surprised nobody.

[pittstang5]

Watch for fake punt.

Good call

[Guiness]

Who the fuck is 99 of the Pack?

they resigned Eddie Lacy

[beveaux1]

Bears might coach us to a win. That was stupid. We'll take it.

[denverYooper]

They needed some help, there it is.

Now's the time to punch it in.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Who is 98? Good play.

i know. We bitch about Todd not signing anyone. Gute signs a new player every week, and we don't know their name. Maybe 5-70-1 is making us ignorant.

[pittstang5]

cobb wide open

[ThunderDan]

Sack and a punt.

[red]

Cobb and arid nowhere near on the same page

But Rodgers not bitching at him like he would if it was a rookie

[beveaux1]

That's a good WR.

[ThunderDan]

Sack and a punt.

Wrong on that one. What a catch by Adams.

[red]

Great catch

[red]

And Adams hurt

[beveaux1]

Williams. TD!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

go for 2

[red]

Nice run

Go for 2

[ThunderDan]

The Bears are so dumb it is amazing. Why run a fake punt and give the Packers a short field?

[Guiness]

Adams to IR? smh

[beveaux1]

Tie game.

[red]

Adams back in and ties the game

[pittstang5]

impressive drive, thought they would piss it away

[beveaux1]

One more turnover and we can win.

[Guiness]

late hit on Adams, that should be a flag

[Teamcheez1]

We have a chance, let's see how this plays out.

[ThunderDan]

We have a chance, let's see how this plays out.

What happened to 28-6 and the game is over at halftime?

[red]

Their righ tackle moved about a full second before the ball was snapped

[denverYooper]

Adams to IR? smh

Only if they lose.

[ThunderDan]

3 and out would be huge.

[pbmax]

Went to get lunch. Dumb punt call by Bears. 8 point swing.

Should I go get second lunch or tank?

[Teamcheez1]

Pathetic.

[ThunderDan]

Crap, breeland missed the sack.

[beveaux1]

We needed that ball.

[red]

Who the hell is tyler Adams?

[beveaux1]

Who the hell is tyler Adams?

Tyler Lancaster.

[pbmax]

Went to get lunch. Dumb punt call by Bears. 8 point swing.

Should I go get second lunch or tank?

11 point swing. Forgot FG.

[red]

Our pass rush is dependent on the other an holding the ball forever

[Rutnstrut]

Clay is so sloooow.

[red]

Tyler Lancaster.


Still have no clue

[pbmax]

Bears have talent on O but not many brains.

[beveaux1]

Clay is so sloooow.

Actually, Trubisky runs like a young Rodgers.

[red]

The play clock was at one and the ref was still holding up the play

I’d be pissed if I was the bears

[denverYooper]

Went to get lunch. Dumb punt call by Bears. 8 point swing.

Should I go get second lunch or tank?

You could probably eat.

[beveaux1]

Good play by Gilbert.

[ThunderDan]

Great play by Gilbert. Probably saved a big run by Cohen.

[pbmax]

Has anyone commented on the BE YOU sticker on Nagy’s play sheet?

[beveaux1]

Been a good game. We've played over our capabilities.

[pbmax]

Strange time to see Bearman’s avatar.

[beveaux1]

Turnover!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

finally!!!

[red]

There’s the turnover!!

[pbmax]

Love the Bears new coach.

[ThunderDan]

The play clock was at one and the ref was still holding up the play

I’d be pissed if I was the bears

Bears subbed with 9 on the play clock. Refs have to give Pack time to respond.

Fumble recovery by Lowry.

[pittstang5]

YES!!! Finally we get one

[denverYooper]

Has anyone commented on the BE YOU sticker on Nagy’s play sheet?

No, and I've noticed it but it sure is backfiring today.

[pbmax]

Army with the Fumble recovery. Brown passes it to him through his legs.

[pbmax]

I have come to hate the extended offense

[Rutnstrut]

Rodgers is unsharp.

[red]

All day, horrible throw

[Teamcheez1]

Just a stupid set of plays.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

wht the fuck!

[beveaux1]

Cobb was open, then Scantling was open. Not good throws.

[red]

2 home run tries in a row

[pittstang5]

and pissed away

[ThunderDan]

Ugh 3 and out after th3 turnover. MVS had his guy beat and ARod just over threw him.

[pbmax]

That turnover did not even flip position.

[Guiness]

what the fuck was that

[denverYooper]

2 home run tries in a row

Bummer is they were both there. MVS especially.

[Teamcheez1]

2 home run tries in a row

Apparently that's how we think you should get back into a game. Throw the ball 40-60 yards and hope for the best.

[Rutnstrut]

and pissed away



Pissed away by Rodgers.

[beveaux1]

what the fuck was that

The sack killed us. Rodgers had happy feet and then just threw it as far as he could.

[pbmax]

Bummer is they were both there. MVS especially.

Yeah. I get it. Buts it’s just not working with this group. Hasn’t been reliable since 15? 16?

[beveaux1]

Yeah. I get it. Buts it’s just not working with this group. Hasn’t been reliable since 15? 16?

He doesn't have timing with the rookies. Looks a little rattled.

[pbmax]

He doesn't have timing with the rookies. Looks a little rattled.

His long ball has been off for some time. Rookies aren’t helping.

[Rutnstrut]

Yeah. I get it. Buts it’s just not working with this group. Hasn’t been reliable since 15? 16?



Even without stubby. Keep throwing the same shit at the wall hoping it'll stick. At some point you have to really wonder how much of the problem Rodgers is.

[yetisnowman]

Remember when Aaron was a really accurate passer? Those were good times.

[George Cumby]

Remember when Aaron was a really accurate passer? Those were good times.

Third and long was no big deal in those days.

[pbmax]

Hands on shoulder. If it’s waist they don’t call.

[pbmax]

Coverage idea. Troy Brown box and 1 on Cohen.

[beveaux1]

Hold them to a FG now.

[pittstang5]

now the defense is falling apart.

[George Cumby]

I only just started listening. Are the refs as bad as it sounds?

[Teamcheez1]

Piss poor coverage that whole series.

[beveaux1]

Wide open with a 3 man rush. Jones with no coverage.

[Rastak]

My problem with this game is I don't who to root for......my brain says the Green and Gold......but.....old habits die hard.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

fire pettine! cover 8 and still a td

[ThunderDan]

Ouch, wide open.

[pbmax]

That wasn’t jones that was Browns man.

[Rutnstrut]

I only just started listening. Are the refs as bad as it sounds?



Hard to tell. Fox doesn't like to show replays of penalties.

[pittstang5]

that was weak, wide open in the end.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

again, i dont get the hardons for pettine.

[pbmax]

My problem with this game is I don't who to root for......my brain says the Green and Gold......but.....old habits die hard.

We have same problem. Losing stinks but possibly carries side benefit.

See, moral hazard.

[Teamcheez1]

Let's run a disciplined offense on this possession. I don't want to see scrambling around and throwing low percentage passes 50 yards down the field.

[pbmax]

I only just started listening. Are the refs as bad as it sounds?

Agree with Jaire call. Never saw Breeland call.

[beveaux1]

I'm beginning to think we need to cut bait with Jones. He's not a safety. He hasn't shown he can cover anyone. He's not even particularly special on special teams.

He hasn't played cover LB well. He's blitzed a little, but seems like a waste of a roster spot.

[Rastak]

We have same problem. Losing stinks but possibly carries side benefit.

See, moral hazard.


I get that way with the Vikings too....when they are eliminated I just can't hope for a loss no matter how much it makes sense.

[Teamcheez1]

I'm beginning to think we need to cut bait with Jones. He's not a safety. He hasn't shown he can cover anyone. He's not even particularly special on special teams.

He hasn't played cover LB well. He's blitzed a little, but seems like a waste of a roster spot.

I don't think we have anybody left at this point.

[Rutnstrut]

I'm beginning to think we need to cut bait with Jones. He's not a safety. He hasn't shown he can cover anyone. He's not even particularly special on special teams.

He hasn't played cover LB well. He's blitzed a little, but seems like a waste of a roster spot.




I concur.

[pbmax]

Jmon Moore on ko?

Protecting Williams?

[Teamcheez1]

Throw the damn ball!!!!

[pbmax]

Spriggs got worked there by Mack.

[Rutnstrut]

Sure is a good thing the Pack didn't do what it takes to get Mack.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

jesus, fucking gutekunst sure fucked up not sending the fucking titanic to Gruden for mack.

[pittstang5]

Why Why why!!!!!

[Teamcheez1]

There goes our 4th qtr offense. Predictably bad all year.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

quit echoing me, rut.

[ThunderDan]

Horrible series for the O.

[pittstang5]

bet rogers takes another sack

[Teamcheez1]

Horrible series for the O.

Two three and outs in a row.

Ron Zook strikes again.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

shouldve just gone for it on 4th and 15.

[beveaux1]

Sack killed that series. They needed to run the ball on first down just to make 3rd down more manageable.

[pittstang5]

and there's you're dagger

[pbmax]

Unbelievable.

[pbmax]

Sack killed that series. They needed to run the ball on first down just to make 3rd down more manageable.

Drop was worse.

[ThunderDan]

Sack killed that series. They needed to run the ball on first down just to make 3rd down more manageable.

Agree with this. Bears are bringing the pass rush and ignoring the rush now.

[Rutnstrut]

So does the new coach get to bring in an all new staff? They need a new special teams coach. New everyone other than D-coord. Not that i'd shed a tear if he went.

[George Cumby]

I'm gonna' go back to clearing brush.

[Teamcheez1]

I don't like to lose any game, especially to the Bears, but I'm glad this season is essentially over.

Time to put Rodgers on IR and start Kizer.

[ThunderDan]

4th down.

[pbmax]

Fackrell is having a game.

[ThunderDan]

Was anyone on the Bears set for that FG?

[Joemailman]

Sure is a good thing the Pack didn't do what it takes to get Mack.

Yeah. Them and 29 other teams.

[Teamcheez1]

Trubisky 120.4 QB rating.
Rodgers 73.2.

[beveaux1]

So does the new coach get to bring in an all new staff? They need a new special teams coach. New everyone other than D-coord. Not that i'd shed a tear if he went.

Might see some of the coaches kept, but, by and large, it'll be all new.

[Rastak]

Might see some of the coaches kept, but, by and large, it'll be all new.


It's a big problem when a new coach can't decide his own staff.

[Joemailman]

Let's not have a stampede heading for the Draft Thread.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I don't want Pettine back. With Pettine, it's like Capers' still coordinating the D.

[Teamcheez1]

I'd be willing to keep Pettine, not sure about anyone else.

[Rutnstrut]

It's a big problem when a new coach can't decide his own staff.



Or a new GM his coach.

[beveaux1]

Trubisky 120.4 QB rating.
Rodgers 73.2.

Their defense, home field, and Rodgers being older.

[George Cumby]

Trubisky 120.4 QB rating.
Rodgers 73.2.

Rodgers may be closer to the end than we'd like to think......

[Rutnstrut]

Their defense, home field, and Rodgers being older.

Rodgers pretty much sucking all season.

[ThunderDan]

Trubisky 120.4 QB rating.
Rodgers 73.2.

That doesn’t seem right. Both should be in the 70s.

[Joemailman]

I don't want Pettine back. With Pettine, it's like Capers' still coordinating the D.

You're blind. He's managed to keep the Pack in this game with a preseason game defensive line.

[denverYooper]

I get that way with the Vikings too....when they are eliminated I just can't hope for a loss no matter how much it makes sense.

This me.

[Rutnstrut]

Rodgers may be closer to the end than we'd like to think......


Well that makes it even worse that TT screwed the pooch.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

White Power!

[pbmax]

Why the extended offense after two good slants?

[pbmax]

Nice catch!

[Teamcheez1]

Baloney on that call. He still hit him near the head.

[pbmax]

REPLAY!

Shows shoulder to helmet.

[ThunderDan]

Punch it in.

Also, fuck that horn. Don’t need to have it between every Packer play.

[Rutnstrut]

The 400 passes without a pick are great. But I think that stat Means more to Rodgers than it should.

[pbmax]

Called audible to Kumerow who didn’t get open.

[red]

THROW TJE FUCKING BALL

[ThunderDan]

That should be the end.

[MadScientist]

End of the streak, end of the game, end of the season. Possibly the end of an era as well.

[beveaux1]

You know, if you can't catch, you shouldn't play.

[pittstang5]

well that fuckin sucked

[red]

Jimmy graham, biggest guy on the field shows zero fight to ever catch a ball

[George Cumby]

welp

Figured they'd lose. Glad it was a good game. Win would have been nice, though.

[pbmax]

Throw was behind him.

[beveaux1]

I understand toughing it out, but that ball was right there.

[Teamcheez1]

Jimmy graham, biggest guy on the field shows zero fight to ever catch a ball

It will be interesting to see if they keep him around next season.

[red]

No point even trying to win another game

We need the higher draft pick

[Guiness]

Rodgers may be closer to the end than we'd like to think......

it feels that way, doesn't it?

[ThunderDan]

Jimmy graham, biggest guy on the field shows zero fight to ever catch a ball

Yup, acted like he didn’t care. Go get the ball and at least earn the money you are being paid.

[red]

It will be interesting to see if they keep him around next season.

He isn’t worth anything close to what he’s making

[Teamcheez1]

No point even trying to win another game

We need the higher draft pick

Put Rodgers on IR, play Kizer and Boyle the last two games.

[Rutnstrut]

I understand toughing it out, but that ball was right there.



I also thought the throw looked behind him. Definitely catchable, but not right on.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Queens are winning their game anyway. Might as well throw up the white flag for better picks.

[beveaux1]

it feels that way, doesn't it?

He doesn't look sharp. Hasn't looked sharp all year.

I used to think we could win 8 games with nobody on the roster as long as we have Rodgers. I don't feel that way anymore.

[Rastak]

Queens are winning their game anyway. Might as well throw up the white flag for better picks.


They are mauling the Fins.....

[Joemailman]

It will be interesting to see if they keep him around next season.

I don't think they will. I think Graham has a bad knee. If it's not going to get better, no reason to bring him back. They would save over 5 million by cutting him. Jared Cook will be a free agent. :D

[Teamcheez1]

I didn't even drink any beer during today's game. I felt like it would be wasted while watching the Packers. That's how far we've sunk.

[George Cumby]

it feels that way, doesn't it?

When was he last healthy through the season? I can't even remember.

[pbmax]

Last road win was close too. #Browns

[Rastak]

I didn't even drink any beer during today's game. I felt like it would be wasted while watching the Packers. That's how far we've sunk.


I'm drinking enough for the two of us.

[beveaux1]

St. Brown was wide open. Rodgers missed him badly.

[George Cumby]

That air raid siren is annoying bull shit.

[pbmax]

Third and 18, open, catch, two steps, fall down short of sticks.

2018.

[beveaux1]

Third and 18, open, catch, two steps, fall down short of stocks.

2018.

This.

[ThunderDan]

That air raid siren is annoying bull shit.

Exactly, pumped in noise.

[Teamcheez1]

Cobb out with a concussion. I guess he never got hit in the head like the refs said.

[beveaux1]

How can Cobb be out with a concussion if it was shoulder to shoulder?

[ThunderDan]

Cobb our with a concussion on a shoulder to shoulder hit. Right refs. I mean you had it right the first time when you threw the flag.

[Rastak]

Cobb our with a concussion on a shoulder to shoulder hit. Right refs. I mean you had it right the first time when you threw the flag.


They miss stuff all the time on these types of calls....might make sense to make it reviewable.

[George Cumby]

time management. sigh

[Teamcheez1]

You have to throw that ball no matter what. Running around like a chicken and getting sacked should have the coach chewing you out.

[pittstang5]

rogers thrown down and no flag. hmmm

[ThunderDan]

They miss stuff all the time on these types of calls....might make sense to make it reviewable.

Except they threw the flag for a helmet hit. Then picked it up and said no helmet hit and somehow Cobb has a concussion.

[Rutnstrut]

How can Cobb be out with a concussion if it was shoulder to shoulder?




Well because it's Cobb and he is made of glass. But I agree that it was a head shot.

[Rastak]

Except they threw the flag for a helmet hit. Then picked it up and said no helmet hit and somehow Cobb has a concussion.


Refs suck, Vikings got fucked on a blocked kick last week the NFL later admitted should have been called. The rub? They called it and picked up the flag.

[Teamcheez1]

Refs suck, Vikings got fucked on a blocked kick last week the NFL later admitted should have been called. The rub? They called it and picked up the flag.

Pete Carroll paid off the refs for that call.

[pbmax]

I wonder if they have a Ted disciple down there saying

"Hey, he looks like he has a concussion, protocol him. PROTOCOL!"

Trying to collect injuries to safeguard draft position and players.

[beveaux1]

I'm choking saying this, but Bears deserved this win. We're just not very good.

[Teamcheez1]

Can we put the Philbin for head coach next season to bed now?

[beveaux1]

Can we put the Philbin for head coach next season to bed now?

I will.

[ThunderDan]

I'm choking saying this, but Bears deserved this win. We're just not very good.

Bears aren’t that good either. D can be dominant. O is below average and Nagy showed he makes terrible decisions in game management.

[Joemailman]

Bears aren’t that good either. D can be dominant. O is below average and Nagy showed he makes terrible decisions in game management.

Agreed. With the guys the Packers had out today, the Bears would have trounced the Packers if they were really good.

[Joemailman]

My heart says Packers can win this one.

My head says:

Bears 24
Packers 17

:sad:

[ThunderDan]

NFC hasn’t looked great. New Orleans looked great until they laid an egg. LA looked good until the Bears D laid the wood on them. Still think it is Saints/Rams for the shot at the Superb Owl.

[beveaux1]

:sad:

Your head was right.

[Teamcheez1]

With our DL completely out and the OL in shambles, not to mention all the subs we had playing, the Bears didn't look great. Still good enough to beat us. Now we need to tank the last two games.

[ThunderDan]

With our DL completely out and the OL in shambles, not to mention all the subs we had playing, the Bears didn't look great. Still good enough to beat us. Now we need to tank the last two games.

With all the injuries we don’t need to tank. We are in the tank. We have 1 of our top 4 DL left. We have a bunch of guys I have never heard of playing dL right now.

[pbmax]

Bears and Rams are frauds. But they will both be in playoffs and you never know.

[TravisWilliams23]

They could very well IR Arod after that slide and limp. Bach has an excuse, Graham has an excuse. Arods interception streak is over, the season is over so just play it safe and hope for a better draft pick.

[Rastak]

NFC hasn’t looked great. New Orleans looked great until they laid an egg. LA looked good until the Bears D laid the wood on them. Still think it is Saints/Rams for the shot at the Superb Owl.


Nothing is better than being the superb owl.

[denverYooper]

LOL @ the discussion for Nagy as COY. The story there is clearly that defense.

[Rastak]

LOL @ the discussion for Nagy as COY. The story there is clearly that defense.


True, but they are not talking about coordinator of the year. He's got the team playing pretty well.

[yetisnowman]

LOL @ the discussion for Nagy as COY. The story there is clearly that defense.

Of course the defense is great, yet with the game on the line tied up, the Bears executed on offense and the Packers didn't. Nagy has a 2nd year QB and a bunch of new players playing more effective offense than Green Bay is right now. Nagy's done a great job.

[Teamcheez1]

Give credit where credit is due. The Bears are 9-4. We are 5-8-1 with the future very uncertain.

[Iron Mike]

That air raid siren is annoying bull shit.

The Blues Brothers must have escaped the Joliet Prison again.

[mraynrand]

I'm choking saying this, but Bears deserved this win. We're just not very good.

Did you just now look at the roster?

[beveaux1]

Did you just now look at the roster?

I sometimes wear green and gold glasses.

[mraynrand]

I sometimes wear green and gold glasses.

I know, I have the same problem. Much like Beer Goggles, it gets me into trouble sometimes...

[Bretsky]

New for SPRIGGS doubters. Bach can’t block Mack either.

We call ourselves Spriggs Realists

NEWSFLASH; Spriggs cannot block many

Bach can

[call_me_ishmael]

Didn't see the game, but Kahlil Mack is easily worth what the Bears paid. Dude changes everything.

[Bretsky]

Didn't see the game, but Kahlil Mack is easily worth what the Bears paid. Dude changes everything.

Mack is also worth our two 1st round draft picks

[pbmax]

We call ourselves Spriggs Realists

NEWSFLASH; Spriggs cannot block many

Bach can

He blocked 94 a lot and got the job done. It was probably his best run blocking game and they scored off a run play with Williams over his side.

SPRIGGS™ got overrun twice by Mack.. I'll admit he still doesn't show one defining trait you can say is starter material, so the odds are against him. But he has improved. Its just not been fast or enough.

I would not trust him to do it for next season, but I would not be stunned if he turned the corner.

[mraynrand]

He blocked 94 a lot and got the job done. It was probably his best run blocking game and they scored off a run play with Williams over his side.

SPRIGGS™ got overrun twice by Mack.. I'll admit he still doesn't show one defining trait you can say is starter material, so the odds are against him. But he has improved. Its just not been fast or enough.

I would not trust him to do it for next season, but I would not be stunned if he turned the corner.

He actually played fairly well today - to the point where I could see him being the swing backup at Tackle. But against the elite rushers, he needs some scheme help, regardless of how much anyone wants him to be able to protect on an island.

[mraynrand]

Didn't see the game, but Kahlil Mack is easily worth what the Bears paid. Dude changes everything.

It makes a huge difference that he came to a team with an already strong defense. With the Raiders, it was easier to scheme him out of games because they had weaknesses elsewhere. He'd make any team better, but his impact in Chicago was greater because of what they already had.

[Freak Out]

On the plays Mack needed to be doubled he wasn't. lol

[Pugger]

He blocked 94 a lot and got the job done. It was probably his best run blocking game and they scored off a run play with Williams over his side.

SPRIGGS™ got overrun twice by Mack.. I'll admit he still doesn't show one defining trait you can say is starter material, so the odds are against him. But he has improved. Its just not been fast or enough.

I would not trust him to do it for next season, but I would not be stunned if he turned the corner.

We forget it took Bak 3 seasons playing tackle full time to become the elite guy we see today. If Bulaga doesn't/can't come back next year and we don't draft or sign a FA tackle perhaps Spriggs will be good enough at RT going forward? Mack can make excellent tackles look foolish.

[gbgary]

spriggs will be back next year. he's gotten better, he's too cheap to cut, and they need depth.

[texaspackerbacker]

It makes a huge difference that he came to a team with an already strong defense. With the Raiders, it was easier to scheme him out of games because they had weaknesses elsewhere. He'd make any team better, but his impact in Chicago was greater because of what they already had.

If that is true, how much of a difference-maker would he have been for the Packers? Allegedly, we have a few weaknesses too.

Regarding the price to get Mack, I would say whether he is worth two draft picks or not kinda depended on how long he had on his old contract. If he could have just been signed after this season anyway, that was a lot to give up. The other factor, of course, is how long Mack stays at the top of his game - with $90 million guaranteed. Personally, I hope he busts a knee, and the Bears are left on the hook for it.

I tend to think the Packers would have regretted paying what the Bears paid and will be paying to Mack.

[Joemailman]

We forget it took Bak 3 seasons playing tackle full time to become the elite guy we see today. If Bulaga doesn't/can't come back next year and we don't draft or sign a FA tackle perhaps Spriggs will be good enough at RT going forward? Mack can make excellent tackles look foolish.

Bakhtiari was better as a rookie after a week of training camp than Spriggs is now. Bulaga blew out his knee on Family Night, they put Bak in there, and he's been there ever since. Spriggs will be what he is now. A below average starter, or a barely serviceable backup.

[pbmax]

I think there is a chance for one more "jump" for Spriggs. He has now gotten a ton of reps and film. He'll have an offseason to improve on that. We'll see what he can make of it next year.