Official Fire Matt LaFleur Thread

[Joemailman]

He's never been a Head Coach. 'Nuff said. Fire his ass.

[pbmax]

Jinx him why don't you?

[Joemailman]

Jinx him why don't you?

I'm not superstitious. It's bad luck to be superstitious.

[QBME]

He's never been a Head Coach. 'Nuff said. Fire his ass.

You guy's crack me up.

[red]

bout time

[pbmax]

I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little stitious.

Clearly he wasn't ready and could not bring in top flight assistants. Now, on his second contract, he can beef up the staff.

#Greatest Hits

[Tony Oday]

Oh fire him right away and send that red headed fuck Murphy with him.

[George Cumby]

Still no Superb Owl.

Off with his head.

[Fritz]

Oh fire him right away and send that red headed fuck Murphy with him.

If Josh McDaniel can back out of the Indy job before ever conducting a single meeting with the Colts, Murphy can simply un-hire this guy.

He seems to have a lot of potential, just like his fellows Sag-nasty alum, Jeff Janis. Special teams will be great!

Is his grandaddy Guy LaFleur?

[KYPack]

If Josh McDaniel can back out of the Indy job before ever conducting a single meeting with the Colts, Murphy can simply un-hire this guy.

He seems to have a lot of potential, just like his fellows Sag-nasty alum, Jeff Janis. Special teams will be great!

Is his grandaddy Guy LaFleur?

Posted my joke before I could post the sumbitch.

Well, the HC box got checked.

Now let's second guess the piss out of him.

[bobblehead]

I'm more patient than you guys. If he wins a Owl this year he can stay...otherwise, Ned Stark his dumbass!!

[NewsBruin]

Does he like the blond boys with flowing locks?

[pbmax]

Does he like the blond boys with flowing locks?

Aaron, do you like gladiator movies?

[denverYooper]

Aaron, do you like gladiator movies?

Have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

[Joemailman]

I might let LaFleur stay if he does a commercial with Bob and Doug McKenzie.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVthmetNH8

[mraynrand]

Have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

Have you ever felt about Matt LaFleur?

[denverYooper]

Have you ever felt about Matt LaFleur?

I'll run any play he calls.

[QBME]

I'll run any play he calls.

Touchy or touche?

[Harlan Huckleby]

this shit is not funny

[pbmax]

this shit is not funny

Kareem/Roger Murdock agrees:

The hell I don't. LISTEN KID. I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/33700000/-Lebeau-hogans-heroes-33779340-200-200.jpg

It just occurs to me who LeFleur reminds me of - LeBeau, a.k.a. "Frenchie". Always with the scarf. I'm going to call him LeBeau. (LeLambeau? no)

[Harlan Huckleby]

The best part of that show was when they would disguise themselves as German soldiers and bring along a black guy.



https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/episode-the-witness-from-left-ivan-dixon-as-sgt-james-kinch-kinchloe-picture-id150687195?s=2048x2048

[Fritz]

It's funny how, fifteen or so years after the end of WWII, Hogan's Heroes was so ripe to make fun of our (former) enemies.

[ThunderDan]

The best part of that show was when they would disguise themselves as German soldiers and bring along a black guy.



https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/episode-the-witness-from-left-ivan-dixon-as-sgt-james-kinch-kinchloe-picture-id150687195?s=2048x2048


You never know when you are going to have to have someone to run the short-wave coffee pot.

[pbmax]

First, everyone should follow this guy, one of KYPack's favorite O line coaches.

https://twitter.com/CoachPaulAlex/status/1119921931892002816

Second, why not hire him to help the youngster out?

[pbmax]

Healthier Rodgers, worse offense. I think you know what we need to do.


The Packers are averaging 19.3 points and 286.7 yards. Last season, Mike McCarthy’s much-maligned offense averaged 23.5 points and 369.1 yards. Those are differences of 4.2 points and 82.4 yards. With the Monday night game to be played, the Packers are 28th in total offense, 24th in rushing offense, 27th in passing offense, 28th in first downs and 29th on third down. The two saving graces: a turnover-producing defense that hand-delivered 14 points against Denver and an exceptional red-zone attack that has six touchdowns in seven opportunities.

https://mavensports.io/packers/news/when-if-ever-will-offense-catch-greatness--z1rjn3leUa5awPO0-aTng/

[texaspackerbacker]

You don't talk about firing the coach when the team is 3-0 and against the expectations of a lot of people. Just the same, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever, the Packers are winning IN SPITE OF, not because of LaFleur's damn "new offense". One of these weeks, maybe not until the Chiefs game, the Packers are gonna need to play a whole game the way they played in the 15 or whatever scripted plays. And the fact they have gotten way worse later in the game is entirely on LaFleur and his play calling. I have said since long before the season, I think/hope he is smart enough to put his ego about his damn "system" aside and just let Aaron Rodgers be Aaron Rodgers. Three games into the season, I'm not so sure he is doing that, and he has three wins to back him up. Hopefully the guy is smart enough to know where his bread is buttered - that the Defense is what is giving the Packers those wins - that and Rodgers not throwing picks.

[RashanGary]

How many coaches do we burn through before we call into question the QB?

[pbmax]

How many coaches do we burn through before we call into question the QB?

Depends on when he retires.

[George Cumby]

You don't talk about firing the coach when the team is 3-0 and against the expectations of a lot of people. Just the same, there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever, the Packers are winning IN SPITE OF, not because of LaFleur's damn "new offense". One of these weeks, maybe not until the Chiefs game, the Packers are gonna need to play a whole game the way they played in the 15 or whatever scripted plays. And the fact they have gotten way worse later in the game is entirely on LaFleur and his play calling. I have said since long before the season, I think/hope he is smart enough to put his ego about his damn "system" aside and just let Aaron Rodgers be Aaron Rodgers. Three games into the season, I'm not so sure he is doing that, and he has three wins to back him up. Hopefully the guy is smart enough to know where his bread is buttered - that the Defense is what is giving the Packers those wins - that and Rodgers not throwing picks.

No irony ever gave up the opportunity to be lost on you.

[pbmax]

Salvatore Ioppolo @saliopp
46.6% of #Packers offensive snaps are run out of 11 personnel, and results are sub-optimal when it comes to passing. No run/pass balance, 6 sacks, 75.2 rating. 11 is where transition between old habits (freelancing) and new LaFleur's offense is more challenging.
@BenFennell_NFL


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFKopkJXkAEWewS?format=png&name=large

[mraynrand]

^^^^ How often is that Graham. I bet most of the time. And if he's in to 'block'.... pfffft!

[Zool]

Depends on when he retires.

Which time? I always liked the second time best.

[pbmax]

Fire M4!


So Rodgers might be influencing 10% of snaps. :D

[Joemailman]

Still time to save the season if they do it now.

[mraynrand]

Like I said before, they already have a player coach, so they can save money by firing Flower Power.

[RashanGary]

Like I said before, they already have a player coach, so they can save money by firing Flower Power.

:lol:

[pbmax]

Joe, where is the Fire Murphy thread!

This is all his fault. And Gute not taking 2nd round WR.

[Joemailman]

Joe, where is the Fire Murphy thread!

This is all his fault. And Gute not taking 2nd round WR.

I stored it in a silo somewhere. Not sure which one.

[call_me_ishmael]

https://1057fmthefan.radio.com/media/audio-channel/mike-clemens-eaglespackers-tnf-preview

Clemens is on the radio and around the team every day. He has some very flattering comments about the coaching staff and how prepared they all are. The content about the coaching staff starts at about 4:30 for a few minutes.

[texaspackerbacker]

Three weeks of winning, and this thread is all just a joke. The fact is, though, we won those games DESPITE LaFleur's damn "new offense" and his rotten play calling after the first scripted plays. Now, it ought to be serious. And we lost this game tonight primarily BECAUSE of his horrible play calling.

Now there's whining about our wide receivers? Sheeeeesh! If the whiners need something to complain about and talk about past and future drafts, the talk should be about O Line and D Line. If that wasn't dead obvious in tonight's game to anybody, they must not have been watching the same game.

[Bretsky]

I agree our WR's are not good enough

But the coaching is not good enough also

[pbmax]

Three weeks of winning, and this thread is all just a joke. The fact is, though, we won those games DESPITE LaFleur's damn "new offense" and his rotten play calling after the first scripted plays. Now, it ought to be serious. And we lost this game tonight primarily BECAUSE of his horrible play calling.

Now there's whining about our wide receivers? Sheeeeesh! If the whiners need something to complain about and talk about past and future drafts, the talk should be about O Line and D Line. If that wasn't dead obvious in tonight's game to anybody, they must not have been watching the same game.

Tex, you should have recognized the Rodgers offense in most of the second half.

[mraynrand]

Tex, you should have recognized the Rodgers offense in most of the second half.

solid seven points

[pbmax]

solid seven points

~whispers~ We have secretly switched the play caller from Matt LaFleur to Aaron Rodgers at this 5 star Michelin stadium. Let's see if the old folks notice. ~whispers~

[pbmax]

solid seven points

If they had a better red zone plan, this terrible game would have been in the bag. But the team is still playing with one hand or the other tied behind its back.

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, you should have recognized the Rodgers offense in most of the second half.

It was more like Rodgers offense the scripted 15 plays - again. Most of the time after that, they would run it into the line on first down - wasting a down, sometimes the same on second down, then pass when the D knew it was coming on third down. The few times LaFleur departed from his "new offense" shit, things looked good - except on the goal line, of course - the only time when they should have run on first and second down, and they didn't.

I say again, LaFleur's play calling is generally bonehead stupid.

[mraynrand]

The Packers never ran on both first and second down, except when Rodgers scrambled for 4 on second down after a Jones first down run.

[texaspackerbacker]

The Packers never ran on both first and second down, except when Rodgers scrambled for 4 on second down after a Jones first down run.

Wrong x 2

1st & 10 at PHI 21
(9:56 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Jones right guard to PHI 17 for 4 yards (D.Barnett).

2nd & 6 at PHI 17
(9:17 - 2nd) A.Jones up the middle to PHI 13 for 4 yards (N.Gerry).

3rd & 2 at PHI 13
(8:33 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to D.Adams.

4th & 2 at PHI 13
(8:24 - 2nd) Mason Crosby 31 Yd Field Goal

and

1st & 10 at GB 42
(14:13 - 3rd) A.Jones up the middle to GB 45 for 3 yards (Z.Brown).

2nd & 7 at GB 45
(13:51 - 3rd) (No Huddle) A.Jones right end to GB 45 for no gain (B.Graham; F.Cox).

3rd & 7 at GB 45
(13:08 - 3rd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to M.Valdes-Scantling. Green Bay challenged the play for possible defensive pass interference, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands. (Timeout #1.)

4th & 7 at GB 45
(13:03 - 3rd) J.Scott punts 31 yards to PHI 24, Center-H.Bradley, out of bound

[Fritz]

Three weeks of winning, and this thread is all just a joke. The fact is, though, we won those games DESPITE LaFleur's damn "new offense" and his rotten play calling after the first scripted plays. Now, it ought to be serious. And we lost this game tonight primarily BECAUSE of his horrible play calling.

Now there's whining about our wide receivers? Sheeeeesh! If the whiners need something to complain about and talk about past and future drafts, the talk should be about O Line and D Line. If that wasn't dead obvious in tonight's game to anybody, they must not have been watching the same game.


I thought you'd be getting a boner last night once GB just abandoned the run altogether.

[mraynrand]

Wrong x 2

1st & 10 at PHI 21
(9:56 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Jones right guard to PHI 17 for 4 yards (D.Barnett).

2nd & 6 at PHI 17
(9:17 - 2nd) A.Jones up the middle to PHI 13 for 4 yards (N.Gerry).

3rd & 2 at PHI 13
(8:33 - 2nd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short left to D.Adams.

4th & 2 at PHI 13
(8:24 - 2nd) Mason Crosby 31 Yd Field Goal

and

1st & 10 at GB 42
(14:13 - 3rd) A.Jones up the middle to GB 45 for 3 yards (Z.Brown).

2nd & 7 at GB 45
(13:51 - 3rd) (No Huddle) A.Jones right end to GB 45 for no gain (B.Graham; F.Cox).

3rd & 7 at GB 45
(13:08 - 3rd) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete deep right to M.Valdes-Scantling. Green Bay challenged the play for possible defensive pass interference, and the play was Upheld. The ruling on the field stands. (Timeout #1.)

4th & 7 at GB 45
(13:03 - 3rd) J.Scott punts 31 yards to PHI 24, Center-H.Bradley, out of bound

You said running into the line, wasting a down. Jones got 4 and 3 yards on both of those first downs. I should have been more clear in my post. Sorry about that.

[Radagast]

this shit is not funny


If your referring to the negative Nancys posting in this thread, then I agree. Try to imagine them as 2nd graders out on the playground at recess time. Running in all directions as fast as they can and yelling at the tops of their lungs. Picture that and it's easier to dismiss most of the clueless chatter.

So join me as I ROFL at their current wandering rhetoric.

[texaspackerbacker]

I thought you'd be getting a boner last night once GB just abandoned the run altogether.

If they had won the game, believe me, I wood (pun intended).

[texaspackerbacker]

You said running into the line, wasting a down. Jones got 4 and 3 yards on both of those first downs. I should have been more clear in my post. Sorry about that.

I'd still call them wasted downs, and that would be the case even if the series didn't end with a punt and a short field goal. And there were a ton of times when just first down was similarly wasted.

Besides, shame on your hypocrisy hahahaha; You who place such great store on doing the research, well, I actually took the time and did the research for once and proved you wrong - and then you grasp at this straw (I say good naturedly hahahaha).

[mraynrand]

I'd still call them wasted downs, and that would be the case even if the series didn't end with a punt and a short field goal. And there were a ton of times when just first down was similarly wasted.

Besides, shame on your hypocrisy hahahaha; You who place such great store on doing the research, well, I actually took the time and did the research for once and proved you wrong - and then you grasp at this straw (I say good naturedly hahahaha).

Good for you, really. I went through the same playlist as you. In the other thread, I broke down all the runs. There were only 20, 10 in each half. Again, it helps to have the threat to run, otherwise the defense just tees it up and goes after Rodgers, which is one reason the pass pro wasn't as good. Not to mention Light being in there.

[Radagast]

As the "old" joke says;

Q: How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

A: Practice, Practice, Practice


To get better at most things, practice is required. As GB's running game moves from week to week, it's the blocking and not the runners that need to get better. HC LaFleur does not require years of experience as a HC to know that Offensive Line blocking is the key a successful running game. It depends upon a team effort as the linemen's jobs are to clear a path for the runner. So when you see a team succeed / fail with their running game, take a closer look at their O-line.

Here's a good example.

Dallas' RB Ezekiel Elliott is a better runner because of his offensive line play. In turn, their QB Dak Prescott is not as vulnerable on plays where he wants to pass the football. It all works to balance the run / pass part of their offense.

GB too is working toward this same goal, however with his new offensive system and new or 2nd team players stepping up to play in place of those injured, it's not just a matter of getting the original 5 O-linemen to work as a well oiled machine, but every o-linemen on the roster. In addition, should a player need to go on IR and a player is promoted from the practice squad or acquired from FA or by trade, they too must become a perfect fit in a blocking machine.

Some say that the pass is everything and the running play is outdated, but look carefully back at the successful playoff teams over the last 40 or more years and you'll find that the most successful teams possess both a passing and running game. I hear the same arguments each year, but when December and January are played in the cold or cold rain or the snow, it's the team that worked all season to field a strong running game that has the advantage. Be glad that LaFleur's offense system places the proper strong value on having a strong running game. They may not be as we all wish they were at this time. but be sure it will pay benefits worth the sweat and sore muscles when the season / playoffs end in success due in part to a strong running game. Yes it takes time and effort to field a good running game, but good things come to those who patiently work toward a higher goal.



:duel:

[MadtownPacker]

If they had won the game, believe me, I wood (pun intended).I get it. Instead of V for Victory it’s Viagra.

[pbmax]

If you watch Aaron Jones run outside zone, you might see a RB who needs practice at reading the outside zone blocking. He takes everything too wide.

[Joemailman]

If you watch Aaron Jones run outside zone, you might see a RB who needs practice at reading the outside zone blocking. He takes everything too wide.

Perhaps that's why against Denver J Williams was much more effective than Jones. I have to wonder if Denver did some things against Jones that Philly also had success with. It's a copycat league.

[bobblehead]

I agree our WR's are not good enough

But the coaching is not good enough also

How are all the other first year coaches doing? How did they do last 5 years? Asking for a friend.

[bobblehead]

I'd still call them wasted downs, and that would be the case even if the series didn't end with a punt and a short field goal. And there were a ton of times when just first down was similarly wasted.

Besides, shame on your hypocrisy hahahaha; You who place such great store on doing the research, well, I actually took the time and did the research for once and proved you wrong - and then you grasp at this straw (I say good naturedly hahahaha).

So Rodgers can't convert 3rd and 2 and its M4's fault....got it.

[Fritz]

If you watch Aaron Jones run outside zone, you might see a RB who needs practice at reading the outside zone blocking. He takes everything too wide.

I wondered about this too. Which is interesting in that I thought one of his strengths was his vision - seeing the space, planting, and cutting.

[pbmax]

I wondered about this too. Which is interesting in that I thought one of his strengths was his vision - seeing the space, planting, and cutting.

There are two basic approaches to running the ball. And one additional terrible approach to running the ball.

One is all feet; stalls and stops or change of direction, looking to create a gap where one might not be or trying to get someone to miss. Or to weave through multiple bodies.

The other is moving with blockers and wait for a crease to appear as you slide across. Then you need to choose a gap and get through it fast, because the backside is closing even as they are being blocked.

The third, terrible way to run, is to point your head at the play call hole and run there, without regard to the blocking events. And then plow the top of your helmet into the O lineman's back.

[Joemailman]

How are all the other first year coaches doing? How did they do last 5 years? Asking for a friend.

Matt Lafleur - Green Bay 3-1
Freddie Kitchens - Cleveland 1-2
Bruce Arians - Tampa Bay 1-2
Kliff Kingsbury - Arizona - 0-2-1
Zac Taylor - Cincinnati 0-3
Vic Fangio - Denver 0-3
Brian Fores - Miami 0-3
Adam Gase - New York Jets 0-3

[texaspackerbacker]

That says nothing about the talent level of the team they took over.

[pbmax]

That says nothing about the talent level of the team they took over.

I am pretty sure it does.

[mraynrand]

I am pretty sure it does.

lol

[bobblehead]

Matt Lafleur - Green Bay 3-1
Freddie Kitchens - Cleveland 1-2
Bruce Arians - Tampa Bay 1-2
Kliff Kingsbury - Arizona - 0-2-1
Zac Taylor - Cincinnati 0-3
Vic Fangio - Denver 0-3
Brian Fores - Miami 0-3
Adam Gase - New York Jets 0-3

I'm convinced...fire LaFleur!!

[bobblehead]

That says nothing about the talent level of the team they took over.

Brain teaser for you Tex...did the packers make the playoffs the last 2 years?

[Joemailman]

I'm convinced...fire LaFleur!!

What took you so long?

[gbgary]

don't know if it was on this board or not but i have said that rodgers personality overpowers MLF's. he's not alpha enough. i don't think he has a chance.

[George Cumby]

don't know if it was on this board or not but i have said that rodgers personality overpowers MLF's. he's not alpha enough. i don't think he has a chance.

He looks like the kid of the guy who owns the construction company. Dad is a tough, bare knuckles guy who worked his way up the ladder, starting as a grunt laborer at age 15. Dad is hard, like 16 penny hard, takes no shit, everyone is more than a little scared of him but they all respect his knowledge and ability. Sonny takes after his mom, he's kind of soft, the sensitive type, he secretly listens to Ed Sheehan, hasn't really been tested, he's always been a disappointment to his father (who says to his friends "Can you believe HE'S my SON?!") and is now being groomed to take over the family business because Dad had triple bypass last week. Everyone knows Junior isn't up to the job. Including Junior.

That's what LaFleur reminds me of.

[pbmax]

Well, whoever won the debate or decided on the particular merger of offenses last week should get the first say about this week's offensive plan.

[mraynrand]

He looks like the kid of the guy who owns the construction company. Dad is a tough, bare knuckles guy who worked his way up the ladder, starting as a grunt laborer at age 15. Dad is hard, like 16 penny hard, takes no shit, everyone is more than a little scared of him but they all respect his knowledge and ability. Sonny takes after his mom, he's kind of soft, the sensitive type, he secretly listens to Ed Sheehan, hasn't really been tested, he's always been a disappointment to his father (who says to his friends "Can you believe HE'S my SON?!") and is now being groomed to take over the family business because Dad had triple bypass last week. Everyone knows Junior isn't up to the job. Including Junior.

That's what LaFleur reminds me of.

lol

[pbmax]

We still need a fire Mark Murphy thread.

[Joemailman]

We still need a fire Mark Murphy thread.

I think that's Bretsky's job.

[Bretsky]

I think that's Bretsky's job.

I am SO ON this one !!!!!

[bobblehead]

What took you so long?

I needed to see he was the most successful first year coach in the league this season to date...that did it.

[bobblehead]

He looks like the kid of the guy who owns the construction company. Dad is a tough, bare knuckles guy who worked his way up the ladder, starting as a grunt laborer at age 15. Dad is hard, like 16 penny hard, takes no shit, everyone is more than a little scared of him but they all respect his knowledge and ability. Sonny takes after his mom, he's kind of soft, the sensitive type, he secretly listens to Ed Sheehan, hasn't really been tested, he's always been a disappointment to his father (who says to his friends "Can you believe HE'S my SON?!") and is now being groomed to take over the family business because Dad had triple bypass last week. Everyone knows Junior isn't up to the job. Including Junior.

That's what LaFleur reminds me of.

He reminds me of a 3-1 coach.

[Fritz]

He looks like the kid of the guy who owns the construction company. Dad is a tough, bare knuckles guy who worked his way up the ladder, starting as a grunt laborer at age 15. Dad is hard, like 16 penny hard, takes no shit, everyone is more than a little scared of him but they all respect his knowledge and ability. Sonny takes after his mom, he's kind of soft, the sensitive type, he secretly listens to Ed Sheehan, hasn't really been tested, he's always been a disappointment to his father (who says to his friends "Can you believe HE'S my SON?!") and is now being groomed to take over the family business because Dad had triple bypass last week. Everyone knows Junior isn't up to the job. Including Junior.

That's what LaFleur reminds me of.

After a couple of months on the job, Junior faces a big test when one of Dad's long-time employees calls out Junior, and Junior backs down. Everyone's down on Junior now; he's a wuss for sure - but then everyone comes to work the next day to find out that the employee's not only been fired but has been found at home, hanging from a rope in his garage.

Time passes, and we learn that Junior is ruthless and mean and much, much smarter than Dad about business. The construction company does lousier and lousier work, using cheaper and cheaper materials, and long-time, faithful employees are chopped off at the knees without a thought by Junior. But profits skyrocket, and Junior sends some henchmen out to intimidate the rival construction company. They blow up some buildings, kill a few dogs, and next thing you know Junior has bought them out at pennies on the dollar.

Junior starts doing coke and drinking and partying with prostitutes. The newspapers call him "The King of Construction" and talk is that he's on the short list to be the next governor of his state. Dad is sick and addled at this point, and Junior cuts off his father's medical care, leaving Dad homeless and bitter. Mom gets a Penthouse apartment with three fuzzy white little dogs.

You've got to watch more TV, George.

[George Cumby]

^ Apparently.

[bobblehead]

After a couple of months on the job, Junior faces a big test when one of Dad's long-time employees calls out Junior, and Junior backs down. Everyone's down on Junior now; he's a wuss for sure - but then everyone comes to work the next day to find out that the employee's not only been fired but has been found at home, hanging from a rope in his garage.

Time passes, and we learn that Junior is ruthless and mean and much, much smarter than Dad about business. The construction company does lousier and lousier work, using cheaper and cheaper materials, and long-time, faithful employees are chopped off at the knees without a thought by Junior. But profits skyrocket, and Junior sends some henchmen out to intimidate the rival construction company. They blow up some buildings, kill a few dogs, and next thing you know Junior has bought them out at pennies on the dollar.

Junior starts doing coke and drinking and partying with prostitutes. The newspapers call him "The King of Construction" and talk is that he's on the short list to be the next governor of his state. Dad is sick and addled at this point, and Junior cuts off his father's medical care, leaving Dad homeless and bitter. Mom gets a Penthouse apartment with three fuzzy white little dogs.

You've got to watch more TV, George.

“Politics removed by admin”

[mraynrand]

After a couple of months on the job, Junior faces a big test when one of Dad's long-time employees calls out Junior, and Junior backs down. Everyone's down on Junior now; he's a wuss for sure - but then everyone comes to work the next day to find out that the employee's not only been fired but has been found at home, hanging from a rope in his garage.

Time passes, and we learn that Junior is ruthless and mean and much, much smarter than Dad about business. The construction company does lousier and lousier work, using cheaper and cheaper materials, and long-time, faithful employees are chopped off at the knees without a thought by Junior. But profits skyrocket, and Junior sends some henchmen out to intimidate the rival construction company. They blow up some buildings, kill a few dogs, and next thing you know Junior has bought them out at pennies on the dollar.

Junior starts doing coke and drinking and partying with prostitutes. The newspapers call him "The King of Construction" and talk is that he's on the short list to be the next governor of his state. Dad is sick and addled at this point, and Junior cuts off his father's medical care, leaving Dad homeless and bitter. Mom gets a Penthouse apartment with three fuzzy white little dogs.

You've got to watch more TV, George.

I missed season 5 of the Flintstones. Bam Bam!

[pbmax]

After a couple of months on the job, Junior faces a big test when one of Dad's long-time employees calls out Junior, and Junior backs down. Everyone's down on Junior now; he's a wuss for sure - but then everyone comes to work the next day to find out that the employee's not only been fired but has been found at home, hanging from a rope in his garage.

Time passes, and we learn that Junior is ruthless and mean and much, much smarter than Dad about business. The construction company does lousier and lousier work, using cheaper and cheaper materials, and long-time, faithful employees are chopped off at the knees without a thought by Junior. But profits skyrocket, and Junior sends some henchmen out to intimidate the rival construction company. They blow up some buildings, kill a few dogs, and next thing you know Junior has bought them out at pennies on the dollar.

Junior starts doing coke and drinking and partying with prostitutes. The newspapers call him "The King of Construction" and talk is that he's on the short list to be the next governor of his state. Dad is sick and addled at this point, and Junior cuts off his father's medical care, leaving Dad homeless and bitter. Mom gets a Penthouse apartment with three fuzzy white little dogs.

You've got to watch more TV, George.

This is just the plot to the RoboCop prequel.

[mraynrand]

This is just the plot to the RoboCop prequel.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[Joemailman]

He looks like the kid of the guy who owns the construction company. Dad is a tough, bare knuckles guy who worked his way up the ladder, starting as a grunt laborer at age 15. Dad is hard, like 16 penny hard, takes no shit, everyone is more than a little scared of him but they all respect his knowledge and ability. Sonny takes after his mom, he's kind of soft, the sensitive type, he secretly listens to Ed Sheehan, hasn't really been tested, he's always been a disappointment to his father (who says to his friends "Can you believe HE'S my SON?!") and is now being groomed to take over the family business because Dad had triple bypass last week. Everyone knows Junior isn't up to the job. Including Junior.

That's what LaFleur reminds me of.

So because he doesn't look like a bartender he can't coach.

He reminds me a little of Mike Shanahan. He was run out of Oakland after 20 games because he didn't do things the Raider Way. He then won 2 Super Bowls for their division rival.

[Fritz]

Is this about Trump? I thought no politics allowed here.

It's about every third television series on the networks and cable.

[George Cumby]

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Guns! Guns!! GUNS!!!

[MadtownPacker]

Would blowing this game earn the boot?

[Radagast]

Denver -- 20

LAC ----- 13

final

[pbmax]

No. But it wouldn't look good at his year end review.

[mraynrand]

No. But it wouldn't look good at his year end review.

Stay in your silo

[pbmax]

I am giving him a pass for that last win. One week. We'lll see how it goes. :lol:

[Freak Out]

It's time.

[Joemailman]

It's time.

Nah. He's undefeated against the Bears and Vikings.

[Freak Out]

lol

[MadtownPacker]

It's time.What happen with you man? But yes off with his head.

[pbmax]

Holmgren had a couple of bugbears as a new coach. Was it the Vikings and road games he couldn't seem to win for a while, right?

Californication is less important than that. But I sure hope he can get Rodgers out of the extended offense funk.

[woodbuck27]

”politics removed by admin”

[woodbuck27]

I see something I don't approve of in our new Head Coach ... FEAR.

[Freak Out]

What happen with you man? But yes off with his head.

I was not able to get one of my friends season tickets...as another family member wanted to see the slaughter. After researching the cost of tickets and lodging I bagged it.

[call_me_ishmael]

Despite a few eggs laid, I really like Matty so far. The early returns are promising and I think they went in the right general direction with the young Shanahan tree. This dude is well connected with the next set of great coaches/coordinators. Whether he is a special coach or not remains to be seen but at least they went with the general direction I believe to be correct.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'm starting to think Pettine maybe is the one who should be in danger of getting fired. We have basically the same personnel who were dominating teams early in the season, and now we can't stop anybody. Offenses adjusted to us, and Pettine doesn't seem capable of responding with adjustments to counter what they do. Our D Line is bad because of crappy personnel, but the secondary seems like a matter of coaching deficiency. Other teams with seemingly a lot worse players than we have manage to put together at least marginally decent pass defense. We haven't even been close to that recently against some teams with way less than super pass offense.

[call_me_ishmael]

I do have to wonder how The Missle went from DROY candidate to somebody I hear nothing about lately.

[Joemailman]

If Packers get a 1st round bye, LaFleur's firing could be delayed by a week.

[MadtownPacker]

If Packers get a 1st round bye, LaFleur's firing could be delayed by a week.
And if he doesn’t win the two playoff games convincingly enough let him go during media week before the SB.

[texaspackerbacker]

Four posts back and a month ago, I posted that maybe Pettine should get fired. What a turnaround! I guess the guy read my post and shaped up real quick hahahahaha.

[George Cumby]

Was listening to Scott Pioli on NFL Radio the other day. One has to take these things with a grain of salt, but he did nothing but sing LaFleur's praises.

His main points were:

M4 is a football guy through and through, dad and grandpa were coaches.

He's never seen M4 in a bad interaction with others, M4 solves conflict without drama and therefore he disbelieves the Rodger vs. M4 rift storyline.

As other posters have pointed out, he's part of the Shanny coaching tree and is a solid, innovative mind.

[Joemailman]

He better not blow this.

[mraynrand]

I see something I don't approve of in our new Head Coach ... FEAR.

fear is the mindkiller

I shall bend like the reed in the wind.

[pbmax]

It’s been OK so far.

[Fritz]

Fire him if he doesn't win at SF.

If they don't win, it will be because he couldn't control Aaron Rodgers. And he had another bad game plan. And he looks too young to be a head coach.

[texaspackerbacker]

Seriously? More of that "control Aaron Rodgers" shit? The good thing about LaFleur and probably the good reason why the Packers have done as well as they have is that LaFleur subordinated his own ego and did not do too much to control Rodgers.

[Joemailman]

No. Not seriously. Right Fritz?

Fritz?

[texaspackerbacker]

I know he ain't serious about firing LaFleur, but I think he really meant it about the control Rodgers shit.

[MadScientist]

I know he ain't serious about firing LaFleur, but I think he really meant it about the control Rodgers shit.

The key isn't controlling AR, it's convincing him. The Seattle game basically ditched the extended play and the result was the ball coming out on time and the offense looking good. The secondary key is listening to Rodgers who had MLF put in a couple of plays that went for TD's. After this game, I expect that Rodgers has a pretty high buy-in for MLF's offense.

[texaspackerbacker]

That presumes that LaFleur's way is better than Rodgers' way - if in fact, there is even a substantial difference. From what I observe, that buy-in is in the opposite direction from what you think.

[RashanGary]

The three silos structure seems to be working well.

[pbmax]

The three silos structure seems to be working well.

Bretsky and I are not amused.

[RashanGary]

Bretsky and I are not amused.

Bretsky can kiss my ass :lol:

[Bretsky]

Bretsky can kiss my ass :lol:

I only kiss carmelized hot chix there :))

[Freak Out]

lol

[Freak Out]

God damn B...we need to reenact that night soon.

[mraynrand]

God damn B...we need to reenact that night soon.

Get a room

[Zool]

If The Flower gets this team to a win this week, I'm willing to ignore this thread until next November. Well maybe October.

[RashanGary]

I only kiss carmelized hot chix there :))

My heart weeps sad sorrow as I realize how alone and unworthy i am. Nobody wants to eat my ass like groceries.

Why must I always be the ass eater in this torturous life!

[Fritz]

If The Flower gets this team to a win this week, I'm willing to ignore this thread until next November. Well maybe late August.

FIFY

[pbmax]

FIFY

Preseason is important.

[Joemailman]

According to experts, Packers are a terrible 14-3 team. I blame LaFleur. I'm bitter. I'm real bitter. Fire his ass.

[MadtownPacker]

It would only be fair to wait until halftime of the game. Big lead he stays, anything else we try to save the season while still possible.

[Bretsky]

According to experts, Packers are a terrible 14-3 team. I blame LaFleur. I'm bitter. I'm real bitter. Fire his ass.



Experts aside, we got a lot of breaks this year and the awesome thing about the NFL is parity for the most part. It seems like in past years we always got screwed a game or two. The stars have aligned this year.

Are you an overrated 14 and 3 team ?

Let's check back on this after Sunday

[pbmax]

It would only be fair to wait until halftime of the game. Big lead he stays, anything else we try to save the season while still possible.

Lotta merit to this suggestion. Brings focus.

[pbmax]

Experts aside, we got a lot of breaks this year and the awesome thing about the NFL is parity for the most part. It seems like in past years we always got screwed a game or two. The stars have aligned this year.

Are you an overrated 14 and 3 team ?

Let's check back on this after Sunday

Losing to another 13-3 reg season team is not proof of being overrated. Otherwise, Seattle would have proven to be better.

Packers beat Seattle

Seattle beat the 49 whiners (were 1-1)

49 whiners beat the Vikings

Vikings beat the Saints

Packers beat the Vikings (were 2-0)

We'll see what happens for Game 2 against these bozos Sunday.

[pbmax]

Joemailman, we need one of your patented, public, game prediction polls/thread.

[mraynrand]

It would only be fair to wait until halftime of the game. Big lead he stays, anything else we try to save the season while still possible.

Stubby fired himself a lot of halftimes.

[Bretsky]

Losing to another 13-3 reg season team is not proof of being overrated. Otherwise, Seattle would have proven to be better.

Packers beat Seattle

Seattle beat the 49 whiners (were 1-1)

49 whiners beat the Vikings

Vikings beat the Saints

Packers beat the Vikings (were 2-0)

We'll see what happens for Game 2 against these bozos Sunday.


we did catch a nice break here not playing the Saints.....we played a 13-3 team decimated by injuries

[Joemailman]

Experts aside, we got a lot of breaks this year and the awesome thing about the NFL is parity for the most part. It seems like in past years we always got screwed a game or two. The stars have aligned this year.

Are you an overrated 14 and 3 team ?

Let's check back on this after Sunday

If the Packers win Sunday, I'm sure you'll say they got the breaks. Seems to be a theme with you.

[Bretsky]

If the Packers win Sunday, I'm sure you'll say they got the breaks. Seems to be a theme with you.


How did you vote ? And I'd say there is a pretty strong contingency in both WI and nationally who feel the same as I do. We've all enjoyed the ride.

If GB wins I'll give the coaching staff a ton of credit and AROD a ton of credit for having a great game. Because both will deserve it

[pbmax]

we did catch a nice break here not playing the Saints.....we played a 13-3 team decimated by injuries

They lost to the freaking Vikings. In a home game. With the Vikings D backend decimated by injuries.

Translation: not better than the Packers.

[Rutnstrut]

Experts aside, we got a lot of breaks this year and the awesome thing about the NFL is parity for the most part. It seems like in past years we always got screwed a game or two. The stars have aligned this year.

Are you an overrated 14 and 3 team ?

Let's check back on this after Sunday




Are you saying you think they would have been just as good with stubby? They wouldn't even have made the playoffs with stubby as he would have refused to utilize Jones.

[mraynrand]

Are you saying you think they would have been just as good with stubby? They wouldn't even have made the playoffs with stubby as he would have refused to utilize Jones.

This construction is old and tired. We know that the football org was dysfunctional. Maybe Stubby would have called plays for Jones and Rogers would have checked out of them. We know the front office was stockpiling for FA and draft in 2019, we know they wanted Stubby out, so who hell knows how Stubby would have done with the smith brothers and Amos and LEEEEROY mmmJENKINS? It’s over. Forget Stubbers. As ‘Ol ‘scoops’ McGinn would say, at the end of the season you are what your record says you are. Packers are at least the fourth best team in football. It’s a good roster. Lot of good players, with a few obvious holes, and wafer-thin depth at a lot of critical positions. Even though SF is probably better overall, Packers still have a legit shot at beating them. Same for Chefs and Tit ans.

[pbmax]

Are you saying you think they would have been just as good with stubby? They wouldn't even have made the playoffs with stubby as he would have refused to utilize Jones.

Its a great question.

Its a league where players matter first, and I'd bet they would be in the playoffs if the D still got their FAs.

[mraynrand]

Its a great question..

:roll:

[pbmax]

:roll:

I get it, its mostly complaining about the past and banging on about how the poster was right years ago.

But I still find the question interesting. McCarthy had a top 10 offense last year in what was easily the worst year of his offense. 3rd in rushing and 12th in passing.

[Bretsky]

I get it, its mostly complaining about the past and banging on about how the poster was right years ago.

But I still find the question interesting. McCarthy had a top 10 offense last year in what was easily the worst year of his offense. 3rd in rushing and 12th in passing.



I recall you stating that there is around a 33% chance we end up with a better coach then MM
First year hints that we did.

Guter killed it in Free Agency this year; you can go up in smoke or kill it. He killed it.

MM's job was challenging with Ted

[pbmax]

I recall you stating that there is around a 33% chance we end up with a better coach then MM
First year hints that we did.

Guter killed it in Free Agency this year; you can go up in smoke or kill it. He killed it.

MM's job was challenging with Ted

Yeah, Ted recovered some with his last drafts, but he had 3 or 4 this decade that were among his worst. Several of his second contract guys were done (Matthews, Perry, Daniels) and the guys up for second contracts weren't helping enough (Monty, HaHa).

I think The Flower is a modest step up from McCarthy. Mostly about sticking with the run to protect Rodgers while figuring out the offense. His hiring also defused whatever battler Rodgers and McCarthy were having

But the defense and somehow ST are where they made a jump.

He has proven more resilient than I first expected to pressure from Rodgers. He's also more flexible than he first came off.

One of the weird developments is that McCarthy, not exactly a 19th century orator, spent some significant time polishing his go to remarks to defuse public situations at all times. He ran into a problem in Dallas a few days ago when he trotted out his favorite "you don't play the game in air conditioned offices" then chuckled when he remembered he played indoors at JerryWorld now. His comment was "I'll have to change my words".

La Fleur got caught up in defending his system (no audibles, two play calls, etc) publicly. He's learned quite a bit since then. He's also given over quite a bit to Rodgers preferences on offense, I expect partially due to Rodgers and partially due to receiver limitations.

Which has gotten him buy-in from his QB. They are clearly running effectively and the leads they have concocted in first halves help them tremendously. He has Rodgers on his side now and that helps both of them.

Its been impressive, but perhaps not as impressive as Gute finding Smith, Smith, Amos, Turner, Sullivan, Campbell, Greene and Swervin' Ervin.

[mraynrand]

I get it, its mostly complaining about the past and banging on about how the poster was right years ago.

But I still find the question interesting. McCarthy had a top 10 offense last year in what was easily the worst year of his offense. 3rd in rushing and 12th in passing.

I'm only saying that the theoretical has to assume people are generally getting along and not behaving in the ways that blew the thing up in the first place. And then it becomes a chicken/egg question (Coach/personnel) with people breaking along predictable lines based on coaching tendencies that led them to like/dislike Stubby. Kinda boring.

Oh, and they were good in running and passing last year because Rodgers was calling all the right plays at the LOS, including the AZ game.

[mraynrand]

Its been impressive, but perhaps not as impressive as Gute finding Smith, Smith, Amos, Turner, Sullivan, Campbell, Greene and Swervin' Ervin.

And Vandeerinheadlights. Don't forget about the Bruce Wilkerson Award winner.

[pbmax]

And Vandeerinheadlights. Don't forget about the Bruce Wilkerson Award winner.

Him too.

[beveaux1]

I'm wondering what happens when the team faces adversity, be it injury, a losing streak, even an off-season scandal. For whatever problems the previous regime had, they were very good until the end days of recovering from those types of problems.
On the field, they haven't even lost two games in a row. MLF is still untried whereas M3 was a pretty steady hand.

Although I'm extremely pleased with this season, the jury is still out on this coaching staff until we have more time to evaluate.

PS: A Super Bowl win extends the honeymoon period by quite a bit.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'm wondering what happens when the team faces adversity, be it injury, a losing streak, even an off-season scandal. For whatever problems the previous regime had, they were very good until the end days of recovering from those types of problems.
On the field, they haven't even lost two games in a row. MLF is still untried whereas M3 was a pretty steady hand.

Although I'm extremely pleased with this season, the jury is still out on this coaching staff until we have more time to evaluate.

PS: A Super Bowl win extends the honeymoon period by quite a bit.

If MiLF never loses 2 games in a row, I'll consider him a successful coach.

[run pMc]

If MiLF never loses 2 games in a row, I'll consider him a successful coach.

Well, counting his 14-4 start, he'd be over .500. :) He compares well to the other coaches hired last year. I thought Kingsbury would flop but might have something in AZ in a few years. Flores has done wonderpass s with the mess he inherited in MIA. Adam Gase is a horrible HC IMO. Zac Taylor? Pass. Gruden's been ok, but they have Waller and Jacobs on offense and no defense.

He's done enough to get to Year 3. Can the offense take a step forward and drastically improve next year? (Defense needs some help too.)

[texaspackerbacker]

The one in that bunch I would have bet on to be a success was Kingsbury - not from knowing anything about his coaching style, but from his radical pass first way of doing things.

LaFleur - as I've said so many times - did so well by subordinating his ego and his run-first preference to doing things based on the talent or lack of it he had - namely the GOAT QB and a very mediocre O Line. Luck in the form of lack of injuries among other things also helped.

Most of those other guys floundering is just evidence of the general idiocy of media pukes who built them up.

[Joemailman]

If MiLF never loses 2 games in a row, I'll consider him a successful coach.

Pressure is on.

[Teamcheez1]

Interesting that LaFleur is not immediately committing to having Pettine remain as the defensive coordinator....

[Cheesehead Craig]

Interesting that LaFleur is not immediately committing to having Pettine remain as the defensive coordinator....

That's what happens when your team gets run over for almost 300 yds and it's your ass on the line if that continues.

[call_me_ishmael]

Matty really had a good press conference. He has gotten SO much better with the press in the first year. Still not M3 good, but good enough. It surely doesn't sound like Pettine is coming back. It surely sounds like Matty wants more roster turnover as well.

[call_me_ishmael]

One thing I've noticed this off-season is that more and more teams are making coach and GM peers, or having the GM report-ish or subordinate to the coach. Maybe for all of our second guessing, we were wrong and Mark Murphy got it right. I know I, for one, was skeptical.

[MadScientist]

Interesting that LaFleur is not immediately committing to having Pettine remain as the defensive coordinator....


That's what happens when your team gets run over for almost 300 yds and it's your ass on the line if that continues.

He was definitely pissed about the play of the defense. Also Pettine wasn't a MFL hire, he was a holdover from M3. One thing that sticks in the back of my mind is that Pettine said his scheme was a stop the pass first scheme. It looks like he failed to adjust properly to the opponent. IMO they should keep Pettine. The defense has made big strides over where they were a few years ago. Scoring defense cracked the top 10 for the first time since 2010. They have work to do, but I am not sure a new DC would make a marked improvement.

[pbmax]

He was definitely pissed about the play of the defense. Also Pettine wasn't a MFL hire, he was a holdover from M3. One thing that sticks in the back of my mind is that Pettine said his scheme was a stop the pass first scheme. It looks like he failed to adjust properly to the opponent. IMO they should keep Pettine. The defense has made big strides over where they were a few years ago. Scoring defense cracked the top 10 for the first time since 2010. They have work to do, but I am not sure a new DC would make a marked improvement.

Even the scoring improvement had its downsides. They allowed a large number of big plays. And they struggled versus the run for a good portion of the year.

They were also 18th in yardage against, though its hard to say which rank will hold more true in the future.

Football Outsiders had them at 15th overall. Very average, which was a definite step up.

The Flower is going to Murphy with his recommendations. Which is one potential problem with Captain Silo; he really needs to hear what Gut thinks about the talent on the defense and whether he thinks it should be better.

[RashanGary]

Taylor Lewan (see his twitter feed)

Was talking about lafleur. Said he's the smartest guy in any room. Said he gets football on a whole other level. His nickname was hammer cock lefleur cuz he was so unsuspecting but they had to come up with a beast name that fits his unsuspecting frame.

[RashanGary]

I'm sure his wife appreciates the huge cock.

But the other important relationship in his work life, AR, its starting to make sense that they get along so well. Both cerebral guys. Good fit.

[Upnorth]

The offical fire of head coach thread has no postings for 6 months. Another uncounted victim of the corona virus

[bobblehead]

He was definitely pissed about the play of the defense. Also Pettine wasn't a MFL hire, he was a holdover from M3. One thing that sticks in the back of my mind is that Pettine said his scheme was a stop the pass first scheme. It looks like he failed to adjust properly to the opponent. IMO they should keep Pettine. The defense has made big strides over where they were a few years ago. Scoring defense cracked the top 10 for the first time since 2010. They have work to do, but I am not sure a new DC would make a marked improvement.

The 49ers simply did what I begged fat mike to do. Take what the D willingly gives you.

[bobblehead]

The offical fire of head coach thread has no postings for 6 months. Another uncounted victim of the corona virus

Victim of MiLFs success.

[bobblehead]

Taylor Lewan (see his twitter feed)

Was talking about lafleur. Said he's the smartest guy in any room. Said he gets football on a whole other level. His nickname was hammer cock lefleur cuz he was so unsuspecting but they had to come up with a beast name that fits his unsuspecting frame.

Remember them talking about Petting spending hours analyzing a D and figuring out a weakness. Then Rex Ryan would look at the same thing and see it in 10 minutes. I think MiLF and Shannahan have that kind of thing working. Same for Andy Reid. Same for that prick cheater in Seattle.

[esoxx]

I'm hoping hammer cock can replicate his first season success.

Long live hammer cock!

[pbmax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGczXkknl80

[mraynrand]

https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/3cfTNoh86UcA7GgfJbiiOw--~B/aD0yMDAwO3c9MTQwNTtzbT0xO2FwcGlkPXl0YWNoeW9u/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/homerun/people_218/0682cf9699f2b0fd821e89a51f7a8bea

[UndergroundDawg45]

13-3 season. LeFluer deserves another shot. Or two.

[Bretsky]

I'm hoping hammer cock can replicate his first season success.

Long live hammer cock!


Everything went right last year except San Francisco. We really needed somebody else to beat them.

I think Matty might not be so loved in a year. Right now. Chicks dig him; fans dig him; he made all the right calls. I'm not convinced he's the genius he appears to be right now. But time will tell

[Freak Out]

Hammer cock? Someone discover the sex tape?

[Freak Out]

Don't pick on Val Rand. dude is hurting.

[mraynrand]

Don't pick on Val Rand. dude is hurting.

I feel bad. Seriously, I do feel bad for the dude. He is a fantastic character actor. The Doors was just amazing. A MAZE ING. But he also made "The Saint" - and other than Liz Shue as eye candy, that's one re-make that sucked hard.

[run pMc]

I feel bad. Seriously, I do feel bad for the dude. He is a fantastic character actor. The Doors was just amazing. A MAZE ING. But he also made "The Saint" - and other than Liz Shue as eye candy, that's one re-make that sucked hard.

He was pretty great in Tombstone too.
The remake of "Island of Dr. Moreau" co-starring Marlon Brando? Not so much.

[bobblehead]

Everything went right last year except San Francisco. We really needed somebody else to beat them.

I think Matty might not be so loved in a year. Right now. Chicks dig him; fans dig him; he made all the right calls. I'm not convinced he's the genius he appears to be right now. But time will tell

When people say we weren't a 13-3 team last year i like to point out that SF was lucky to be a division winner. They won like 4 of their last 5 wins in the last second of the game where it could have gone either way.

[mraynrand]

He was pretty great in Tombstone too.
The remake of "Island of Dr. Moreau" co-starring Marlon Brando? Not so much.

Feast or famine with that guy. Tomstone, great. At First Sight, great. He was even great as John Holmes in a bad movie. Batman Forever? Well, I guess Clooney screwed up Bruce Wayne too, so there's that.

[mraynrand]

When people say we weren't a 13-3 team last year i like to point out that SF was lucky to be a division winner. They won like 4 of their last 5 wins in the last second of the game where it could have gone either way.

Packers got buzz-sawed with a bad matchup.

[Harlan Huckleby]

TIL that LeFleur played QB in Arena Football. Well, a pro league like that. In college he was both a QB and WR.

[smuggler]

Batman Forever is a great guilty pleasure flick. I think Val Kimer is an underrated Batman. Way better than Clooney, who was just trash as Bats.

I do appreciate the risk the Packers took in hiring LaFleur. Only time will tell if it was the right choice, but he doesn't seem overwhelmed. Gets outcoached from time to time, but he isn't embarrassing us and the organization isn't going down in flames.

[Joemailman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhO3zSu4PvI

[Zool]

Huh, “McCarthy helped resurrect Favre’s career”. Maybe that’s what M4 has done for AR12

[bobblehead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhO3zSu4PvI

I would mock him relentlessly, but I was very anti Hackett. I pointed out that Bortles got worse each year under Nate. I also pointed out that MiLF made Marriotta look like an NFL QB (almost) and that was some feat. Right now, fat mike is hoping that Nate gets a head gig because with the firing of O'Brien and Gase guess who the absolute worst HC in the NFL is....

[Zool]

I would mock him relentlessly, but I was very anti Hackett. I pointed out that Bortles got worse each year under Nate. I also pointed out that MiLF made Marriotta look like an NFL QB (almost) and that was some feat. Right now, fat mike is hoping that Nate gets a head gig because with the firing of O'Brien and Gase guess who the absolute worst HC in the NFL is....

John Gruden!
Oh sorry, who is John Gruden.

[run pMc]

John Gruden!
Oh sorry, who is John Gruden.

Does Vic Fangio still have a job in Denver?