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RashanGary
05-05-2019, 12:37 PM
Ted Thompson seems like an awesome dude. I’m really happy to see him in the HOF, and boy he put together a couple great teams and one of the more consistent winners in NFL history.

pbmax
05-05-2019, 02:26 PM
People online are complaining about HoF QB and 1 Super Bowl. And they love Ron Wolf.

These people also bought the dealer supplied undercoating last month.

red
05-05-2019, 04:13 PM
People online are complaining about HoF QB and 1 Super Bowl. And they love Ron Wolf.

These people also bought the dealer supplied undercoating last month.

Good question, should Ron Wolfe be in the HOF

Both GMs delivered 1 Super Bowl, and both underachieved with a HOF QB for the rest of their reigns

I think that as with most HOFs (looking at you rock and roll hall), the bar is pretty damn low to get it. They need to fill a class every year no matter the talent level

Why are gms even in the HOF? Seems like all you have to do is win one SB to get in

RashanGary
05-05-2019, 05:58 PM
I think Ted Thompson hate or Ron wolf hate or most hate is usually some form of repressed self hatred for ones own perceived shortcomings, coming out sideways

Teamcheez1
05-05-2019, 09:03 PM
Do the Cleveland Browns have a HOF?
If Dorsey wins one Superbowl, will he make the Browns HOF and have a street named after him?

You're damn right he will.

How quickly Packers fans have forgotten the 70's and 80's.

red
05-05-2019, 09:35 PM
wait,is this for the packers HOF, or the nfl hof?

RashanGary
05-05-2019, 09:43 PM
wait,is this for the packers HOF, or the nfl hof?

Oops. Packer HOF

MadScientist
05-05-2019, 10:04 PM
TT easily qualifies for the Packers HOF. His resume is a bit light for the NFL HOF.

red
05-06-2019, 08:32 AM
Oops. Packer HOF

Well changes my argument

Yeah, he easily qualifies for the packer HOF

bobblehead
05-07-2019, 11:20 AM
I think Ted Thompson hate or Ron wolf hate or most hate is usually some form of repressed self hatred for ones own perceived shortcomings, coming out sideways

I wasn't aware of much Ron Wolf hate. Other than he let Holmgren walk because M1 wanted to be GM and coach and then he retired and made M2 GM and Coach.

bobblehead
05-07-2019, 11:21 AM
TT easily qualifies for the Packers HOF. His resume is a bit light for the NFL HOF.

Effectively GMed 2 seperate franchises to a superbowl back to back. How many guys did that?

Patler
05-07-2019, 01:01 PM
I think TT's legacy goes well beyond the one Super Bowl. His teams were also in, what, 3 other Conference Championship games? I think TT's record of 9 playoff appearances, 1 SB win and 3 Conference Championship game losses compares favorably to Wolf's 6 playoff appearances, 1 SB win, 1 SB loss and 1 Conference Championship loss.

Yes, I wish TT had been able to assemble consistently better rosters on defense, but when I look at their playoff losses during TT's time I see a lot of unfortunate happenings and questionable coaching performances. I feel teams should have gone farther even with whatever shortcomings existed in the rosters. Good GM performances get teams in the hunt, good coaching performances take them over the top. TT consistently got the Packers in the hunt.

call_me_ishmael
05-07-2019, 04:15 PM
Very well deserved honor. I am disappointed more current Packers didn't show up and show some respect. It seems like the entire current team should be at this every year, no? Good on Jordy for making the trek to show up.

I mean, c'mon, Aaron, you can't skip drinking with your buddies at the derby to show some respect to your GM? Brett I sorta get due to everything that went down.

call_me_ishmael
05-08-2019, 10:52 AM
https://twitter.com/packers/status/1126149859097153536


Statement from former #Packers GM Ted Thompson:

tl;dr: Ted hasn't been well since 2017 :(

Radagast
05-08-2019, 12:04 PM
How soon we forget the calls for TT's head on a platter.

Now it sounds like your forming for a parade. Will Ishmael act as the Drum Major?

GB is free to honor their mailman if they so choose. It's a management decision as I see it anyway. I never saw where they ran a fan poll about it. Just don't place Ted next to Brett in the Packers HOF.

pbmax
05-08-2019, 12:56 PM
His released statement:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6Dg_akWwAIz1nP.jpg:large

pbmax
05-08-2019, 01:00 PM
Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky
Thinking back to the 2018 combine -- the first in years without Ted Thompson -- and Seahawks GM John Schneider becoming emotional. It was obvious then (if not earlier) that something was wrong with Thompson.
This story seems worth revisiting now:

ESPN: https://t.co/mhHd59WTxt

hoosier
05-08-2019, 02:07 PM
The critics never knew how right they were they said TT shit the bed when he tried to rebuild the roster in his last few years. Cruel to joke about this but I cannot help myself.

mraynrand
05-08-2019, 02:52 PM
I deleted the TT meme. :(

call_me_ishmael
05-08-2019, 03:22 PM
Jesus the fuck is wrong with you people? It's just a damn game. There are 1000s of more important things in life. Ted's drafting and success was not up to snuff the last few years but that is 90% of the league. He is a good man by all accounts, and he (and Mike McCarthy) represented the Packers with dignity, class and respect throughout their tenure. I respect the hell out of Ted Thompson, and you should too. I wish him well and hope he gets his health squared away and can enjoy his retirement or the twilight of his scouting career.

pbmax
05-08-2019, 03:26 PM
We won't know for a long time, if ever, but I still am curious what happened on that longer than expected medical leave a few years back when he truly appeared lost even after the extra time off. It was over the summer, after the draft and minicamps.

Bossman641
05-08-2019, 03:29 PM
Wish TT all the best. Never understood the complaints that a humble, hardworking guy like himself had an EGO because he didn't go out and sign FA's. Really wish we had got 1 more SB during his time.

pbmax
05-08-2019, 03:39 PM
Wish TT all the best. Never understood the complaints that a humble, hardworking guy like himself had an EGO because he didn't go out and sign FA's. Really wish we had got 1 more SB during his time.

Oh, the ego charge. Makes me angry just thinking about it, about almost anyone.

mraynrand
05-08-2019, 03:42 PM
He is a good man by all accounts, and he (and Mike McCarthy) represented the Packers with dignity, class and respect throughout their tenure. I respect the hell out of Ted Thompson, and you should too. I wish him well and hope he gets his health squared away and can enjoy his retirement or the twilight of his scouting career.

nice to agree on something

MadScientist
05-08-2019, 03:49 PM
How soon we forget the calls for TT's head on a platter.

Now it sounds like your forming for a parade. Will Ishmael act as the Drum Major?

GB is free to honor their mailman if they so choose. It's a management decision as I see it anyway. I never saw where they ran a fan poll about it. Just don't place Ted next to Brett in the Packers HOF.

It was past time for him to go when he finally retired. Now that he's no longer running the show, we can look at his whole career with the Packers instead of what he's doing now. His first few years were outstanding and set the Packers up for a long run of being SB contenders, even if they only brought home one.

Fritz
05-10-2019, 02:39 PM
When I look back over his drafts, Thompson really did do his best work early on - not that he didn't have some good picks later, but his percentage of successful picks slipped. He got guys who could stay on a roster (mostly) but not the kind of impact guys he was getting earlier, not as consistently, anyway. I remember the year - I think 08 - when he traded back from the first to the second round, then got some wide receiver named Nelson.

Kenny Clark looks like a great pick, but littered amongst the Clarks are first and second rounders like Datone Jones, Josh Jones, Jerel Worthy, and the like.

pbmax
05-10-2019, 05:03 PM
Ted had hip replacement surgery in 2014. That was when it got noticeable.

George Cumby
05-11-2019, 06:37 PM
Ted had hip replacement surgery in 2014. That was when it got noticeable.

Maybe he threw a clot and it was undiagnosed. Seriously.

pbmax
05-11-2019, 08:17 PM
Maybe he threw a clot and it was undiagnosed. Seriously.

At a certain age, you just don't bounce back from setbacks. Silverstein insists it was noticeable in 2017 in his post draft presser. He was better at the Shareholder meeting and in camp, but was worn down in the 2017 camping again.

Anti-Polar Bear
05-12-2019, 06:35 AM
As a young lad wearing flowers in long Jesus hair, I was at an anti-war rally once when a long lost high school crush came out of the blue to say hello to me. Dolefully, porn addiction had already clouded my mind with dullness. I regretfully ran away from her without saying a fucking thing. As the great rock band, Coldplay, likes to say, fuck missed opportunities!

Todd's regime was the epitome of missed opportunities. And incompetence. And underneath the fake smiles and wry jokes, cowardice.

Despite the abundance of cap bucks and frogskins, Todd couldn't and didn't acquire the likes Randy Moss, Marshawn Lynch, Tony Gonzalez and Brian Urlacher. All the planets aligned for Todd, and the Great Arm of Butte was his to draft. All Todd had to do afterward was utilize Belichickism. Trades. Free agency. The draft. Instead, Todd opted to drown the Packers in an impotent sea of incompetence with that draft and develop bullshit. If not for Desean Jackson, Todd would've been decapitated without a ring.

Talk about missed opportunities. And incompetence. And after the fluke Super Bowl victory, Todd could've inspired millions of downtrodden queens to come out - talk about cowardice.

George Cumby
05-12-2019, 08:58 AM
^ Boring.

texaspackerbacker
05-12-2019, 05:07 PM
As a young lad wearing flowers in long Jesus hair, I was at an anti-war rally once when a long lost high school crush came out of the blue to say hello to me. Dolefully, porn addiction had already clouded my mind with dullness. I regretfully ran away from her without saying a fucking thing. As the great rock band, Coldplay, likes to say, fuck missed opportunities!

Todd's regime was the epitome of missed opportunities. And incompetence. And underneath the fake smiles and wry jokes, cowardice.

Despite the abundance of cap bucks and frogskins, Todd couldn't and didn't acquire the likes Randy Moss, Marshawn Lynch, Tony Gonzalez and Brian Urlacher. All the planets aligned for Todd, and the Great Arm of Butte was his to draft. All Todd had to do afterward was utilize Belichickism. Trades. Free agency. The draft. Instead, Todd opted to drown the Packers in an impotent sea of incompetence with that draft and develop bullshit. If not for Desean Jackson, Todd would've been decapitated without a ring.

Talk about missed opportunities. And incompetence. And after the fluke Super Bowl victory, Todd could've inspired millions of downtrodden queens to come out - talk about cowardice.

Most of those "opportunities" were better left alone. I don't have much higher an opinion of Ted Thompson than you do, but passing on mostly retread free agents wasn't his worst quality.

run pMc
05-13-2019, 09:40 AM
Of those "opportunities", Marshawn Lynch was probably the one that -- even in hindsight -- would've paid off IMO. He had his best years in SEA; the rest were on the downside of their careers and would've cost a lot.
FWIW, I thought TT had some real head scratcher moves, but overall he kept the franchise going and corrected for some of Sherman's mistakes. Ron Wolf had some clunker picks too.

Overall he was an above average GM and a lot of that was thanks to his early drafts and moves. he definitely faded down the stretch and some of the criticism was warranted.

As for "only one" SB, they went to the NFC Championship several times, and were perennial contenders. It's really hard to win a SB, even with a Top 5 QB you need a lot of luck and surrounding talent. Look at Drew Brees for example. Point is, you can't just assume having a great QB is going to guarantee multiple SB wins, and to expect that is hubris.

RashanGary
05-13-2019, 10:19 AM
Patriot fans can’t really complain much. They’ve been the greatest dynasty in NFL history. Other than the Patriots though, 31 other teams can pick through free agent signings that worked out for other teams and draft picks that worked out, and say, our team dropped the ball.

Packers won the second most games from 2007-2017
http://https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/every-nfl-teams-10-year-record-ranked-32-1-010417

After hoodie, Teds Packers won the 2nd most games in that 10 year span.

MadScientist
05-13-2019, 10:43 AM
Of those "opportunities", Marshawn Lynch was probably the one that -- even in hindsight -- would've paid off IMO. He had his best years in SEA; the rest were on the downside of their careers and would've cost a lot.
FWIW, I thought TT had some real head scratcher moves, but overall he kept the franchise going and corrected for some of Sherman's mistakes. Ron Wolf had some clunker picks too.

Overall he was an above average GM and a lot of that was thanks to his early drafts and moves. he definitely faded down the stretch and some of the criticism was warranted.

As for "only one" SB, they went to the NFC Championship several times, and were perennial contenders. It's really hard to win a SB, even with a Top 5 QB you need a lot of luck and surrounding talent. Look at Drew Brees for example. Point is, you can't just assume having a great QB is going to guarantee multiple SB wins, and to expect that is hubris.

Also the Lynch deal, as good as it might have been, supposedly would have cost Hawk. Right after the deal fell through, there were some LB injuries forcing Hawk to start. He went on to have the best year of his career. Maybe the Packers would have won a couple of rings with Lynch, or maybe they would have missed out on the one they did win.

red
05-22-2019, 04:38 PM
Anyone watch this?

TT didn’t look good

I’m guessing he’s got Parkinson’s, the way he was moving and talking reminded me of Muhammad Ali, just without the tremors

It would also explain why the team allowed him to keep his job for so long, Parkinson’s effects the body, not the brain. So his mind would have still been there at the end of the run