The Official Packers @ Bears GameDay Thread

[Bretsky]

GOTTA keep bringing the pressure

[channtheman]

Not sure why D went soft.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Prevent d sucks

[Bretsky]

HERE'S AN IDEa

COHEN

[pbmax]

Got pressure that time.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pure luck

[Bretsky]

still rushing 4

[ThunderDan]

Good thing we got pressure there.

[esoxx]

not that I've seen. Inactive?

He's in uniform. I saw him slap hands with Dr. Zaius, but that was on the sidelines.

[Bretsky]

BRING HEAT

[pbmax]

Blitz on that incomplete. with overload LOS

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yes!!!!!!!

[red]

amos dagger

[Rastak]

Man, Trubisky sucks.....

[channtheman]

Finally got that turn over!!

[pbmax]

WO HOOO

[esoxx]

Gute looking like a genius now!

[Bretsky]

He's in uniform. I saw him slap hands with Dr. Zaius, but that was on the sidelines.


Same Production as he had at Michigan :)))))

[beveaux1]

Amos!

[Fosco33]

Dagger ��

[gbgary]

Amos!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Nice signing, German Shepherd

[Cheesehead Craig]

Just need 1 first down to ice it.

[ThunderDan]

Amos, perfect wrapping up of the game if we hang on to win.

[mraynrand]

HA HA CLINTON DIX....not

[Bretsky]

AMOS.............................................. .......

[gbgary]

thank you defense!!

[channtheman]

That Will Smith?

[mraynrand]

Same Production as he had at Michigan :)))))

lol. His career is over.

[Bretsky]

NO DAGGGER

Bears still have 3 timeouts I think; they could have ball back around 1:35

[esoxx]

Same Production as he had at Michigan :)))))

He makes everyone around him on the sidelines better.

[Harlan Huckleby]

amos dagger

I just figured out that my Youtube streaming TV is like a full minute behind cable/sat TV.

[Joemailman]

Just need 1 first down to ice it.

Tonight, that might be tough.

[beveaux1]

Need a first down. They have all their TOs...unlike us.

[mraynrand]

He makes everyone around him on the sidelines better.

double lol

[Fosco33]

1st down ftw

[Bretsky]

lol. His career is over.

After being names the best HS recruit in the country, did it really ever start lol

[gbgary]

now...can the O manage to get a first down?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Dagger ��

Bears still have 3 timeouts. Get back to me aftet pack move the chain.

[channtheman]

I just figured out that my Youtube streaming TV is like a full minute behind cable/sat TV.

Better than NBC app. 5 minutes behind.

[LEWCWA]

I'm at work did they bring Cutler back?

[call_me_ishmael]

Same Production as he had at Michigan :)))))

Made a QB hit to rush pass on second down there. Big time play for a rook in his limited action.

[George Cumby]

Lol

[Bretsky]

[QUOTE=esoxx;1019778]He makes everyone around him on the sidelines better.[/QUOTE


:knll:

[channtheman]

Nice throw...

[Bretsky]

WHAT THE F'CK ?????????????????????????????????????

[esoxx]

Was that a called pass play???

[Rastak]

Good idea to not burn clock.

[gbgary]

terrible throw.

[ThunderDan]

Now are we mad at MM when he runs 3 times?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Horrible

[Rastak]

???

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Cant rodgers throw outs anymore?

[channtheman]

That is just a horrible drive after a great 5 yard run. Horrible.

[Joemailman]

NO DAGGGER

Bears still have 3 timeouts I think; they could have ball back around 1:35

You were optimistic.

[Rutnstrut]

They may get the win. But Rodgers has looked mediocre tonight.

[gbgary]

dumb play call.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Better than NBC app. 5 minutes behind.

That REALLY sucks.

I've been reading the live thread tonight wondering what the fuck people were talking about. Figured people were loopy.

Gonna be a long season.

[channtheman]

I’m mad that Rodgers can’t throw an accurate pass.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Great punting tonight

[ThunderDan]

Made a QB hit to rush pass on second down there. Big time play for a rook in his limited action.

I don’t think so. Bears moving fast didn’t allow subs that drive.

[mraynrand]

Well, they blew the first match point

[gbgary]

great punt.

[Rastak]

I wouldn't worry, Bears offense is putrid.

[George Cumby]

Great play calling

[Bretsky]

Made a QB hit to rush pass on second down there. Big time play for a rook in his limited action.



Savage made Big Time Plays.

[mraynrand]

I’m mad that Rodgers can’t throw an accurate pass.

it was to Scantron and I think something went wrong with communication.

[gbgary]

ok...nothing stupid...

[ThunderDan]

Let them get the short throws.

[call_me_ishmael]

I don’t think so. Bears moving fast didn’t allow subs that drive.

I’m 95% positive. It was him and Preston Smith. ZSmith rushing from inside, 52 outside on the last few plays.

[Bretsky]

You were optimistic.



that is just a horrible pass there

[Rastak]

Throw to nobody.....

[channtheman]

I seriously expected a flag for roughing the passer there.

[Cheesehead Craig]

One more stop

[esoxx]

Gute free agency jackpot!!

[red]

boom, preston smith

[channtheman]

Again... does Trubisky know it’s 4th down. THROW. THE. BALL.

[Bretsky]

THOSE THREE SIGNINGS LOOK GOOD FOR GOOTER


SMITH x2 and AMOS

Kudos Gooter

[ThunderDan]

Boy, the D looked great tonight.

[red]

thats a big dude

[mraynrand]

run in the TD

[Cheesehead Craig]

Great game to Pettine and the D

[Rastak]

Game over, nice game guys.

Unfortunately you'll get the living piss beat out of you next week.

:-)

[Fosco33]

Big W

[Bretsky]

GREAT TO HEAR CHICAGO BOOING

[red]

defense looked good tonight

not impressed at all with the "new" offense

[Bretsky]

Game over, nice game guys.

Unfortunately you'll get the living piss beat out of you next week.

:-)


I thought we had a bye week two :))

[channtheman]

That was a real snoozer. I don’t usually watch the whole preseason game, though so what did I expect?

[Rutnstrut]

defense looked good tonight

not impressed at all with the "new" offense



I really think a lot of that is on Rodgers.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Big W

Nice win, buts wk 1. No such thing as a big win in wk 1.

Stay humble.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I really think a lot of that is on Rodgers.

you wanna step outside?

[Radagast]

1 - 0

Enough said !

[call_me_ishmael]

Mah knee.

[George Cumby]

Win is a win. Against the Bears. In Chicago. National TV.

Eff style points. I’ll take it.

[ThunderDan]

I like Amos’ attitude. Great interview after the game.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They should play some of these exhibition games in Mexico.

[beveaux1]

Packers really had a good inside pass rush today. Defensive backfield played well. Offense may not have to do as much this year. I'd like to win a few on defense.

Heck, I'd like to have a few 3rd down stops this year.

[Fosco33]

Nice win, buts wk 1. No such thing as a big win in wk 1.

Stay humble.

Division win vs reigning champs on the road w/ a new coach. That’s the def of a big win.

[call_me_ishmael]

Sucks for my primarily Packers fantasy squad but I really think this is a special squad. The O will get better. The Bears are very good. Packers OL is legit outside of lame Taylor. Most of those sacks were on Rodgers being annoying Rodgers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Packers really had a good inside pass rush today. Defensive backfield played well. Offense may not have to do as much this year. I'd like to win a few on defense.

Heck, I'd like to have a few 3rd down stops this year.

The defense was good, you can see the upgrade in personnel. But I'm not sure a first week game is a good test for defenses.

[texaspackerbacker]

The Better Team Won!

Ya'all got your way - a lot of run first i.e. wasted downs, some quick passes i.e. risk of interceptions, but magnificent defense and unleashing the GOAT just barely enough, and we still got a win.

I said Trubisky was gonna throw it to the Packers a few times ...... finally we snagged one when it counted.

Give the game ball to Gutekunst for bringing in the Smiths and Amos.

[esoxx]

So the last two "real" NFL games have combined for a grand total of 29 points.

I don't mind, love great defense.

[wpony]

Another typical Packers start every year the first two or three games it's like the offense just cannot start I really believe they should be playing their starters at least 1/2 in the preseason so they don't look like they don't know what they're doing when the season starts

[Joemailman]

47 yards rushing. Offense won't look right until they fix that.

Still, a huge win. Division wins on the road are gold.

[texaspackerbacker]

Kudos to LaFleur also for having his team noticeably better prepared than Nagy.

[pbmax]

I am perfectly fine with throwing on 2nd down when you need a first to close it out. And Scantron was open. But holy hell does Rodgers need to work on setting his feet and getting the short throws on target.

Its been terrible since the second clavicle injury.

[channtheman]

The defense was good, you can see the upgrade in personnel. But I'm not sure a first week game is a good test for defenses.

Agreed. D looked good, but the offenses in this game were dreadful.

[Zool]

47 yards rushing. Offense won't look right until they fix that.

Still, a huge win. Division wins on the road are gold.

Against the Bears’ front, hard to expect much more. Easier to run on the Vikes so next week will be a better test.

[esoxx]

Division win vs reigning champs on the road w/ a new coach. That’s the def of a big win.

Never mind him, his brain is clouded by porn.

This was a big win indeed.

[George Cumby]

Well. The Bears D isn’t the Weak Sisters of Mercy, so there’s that.

[channtheman]

I am perfectly fine with throwing on 2nd down when you need a first to close it out. And Scantron was open. But holy hell does Rodgers need to work on setting his feet and getting the short throws on target.

Its been terrible since the second clavicle injury.

I didn’t mind the play call either. I’m with you that Rodger needs to make the throw.

[Zool]

I didn’t mind the play call either. I’m with you that Rodger needs to make the throw.

He bounced 2 short outs tonight. A couple others were behind the WR. As PB said, it’s been like that for a couple years now. Set your effing feet on that throw AR.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Division win vs reigning champs on the road w/ a new coach. That’s the def of a big win.

Get back to me in say wk 16.

Last season, beat bears in wk 1. All that win did was cost the pack, i dunno, george, err, devin bush.

Gotta stay humble and get better.

[yetisnowman]

A win's a win. Offense was a dumpster fire. But that was oddly satisfying. i literally can't believe we just won 10-3. Beautiful.

[pbmax]

Never mind him, his brain is clouded by porn.

This was a big win indeed.

You talking about Fosco or the OP (APB)?

[George Cumby]

Gotta stay humble and get better.

ok, Coach.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

47 yards rushing. Offense won't look right until they fix that.

Still, a huge win. Division wins on the road are gold.

How many passing yards? Fix that and Pack will be fine.

Tex and i say fuck the run. All running the ball does is distort the GABs fragile rhythm.

[esoxx]

You talking about Fosco or the OP (APB)?

This is why it sucks not being able to quote more than one post at a time. Talking about APB

[mraynrand]

I am perfectly fine with throwing on 2nd down when you need a first to close it out. And Scantron was open. But holy hell does Rodgers need to work on setting his feet and getting the short throws on target.

Its been terrible since the second clavicle injury.

he seemed to be taking the blame for that in the postgame interview citing a couple 'terrible passes'

[mraynrand]

A win's a win. Offense was a dumpster fire. But that was oddly satisfying. i literally can't believe we just won 10-3. Beautiful.

I think it was totally satisfying because 1) it's the Bears 2) they played some fine defense, even if the Chicago offense isn't very good. This could be a defense that can hold a good offense to under 20 and maybe even an offense like KC to 28.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

This is why it sucks not being able to quote more than one post at a time. Talking about APB

I was automatically quoting chann a few pages back, along with another quote. Had to log off and log back on via private browser to eliminate the autoquote.

[pbmax]

This is why it sucks not being able to quote more than one post at a time. Talking about APB

Click the "+ button on each post you want to quote. When you "+ them all, hit any Repy with Quote.

https://i.imgur.com/6FQ7ooS.png

[pbmax]

he seemed to be taking the blame for that in the postgame interview citing a couple 'terrible passes'

Yep.

[Joemailman]

Of course,this win means APB gets the next Game Day Thread. :pack::glug::pack:

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Of course,this win means APB gets the next Game Day Thread. :pack::glug::pack:

The Kentucky ain't gonna be too happy. :)

[woodbuck27]

Get back to me in say wk 16.

Last season, beat bears in wk 1. All that win did was cost the pack, i dunno, george, err, devin bush.

Gotta stay humble and get better.

The 'D' played better than any Packer D since last winning the Super
Bowl. The offense, where is it?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The 'D' played better than any Packer D since last winning the Super
Bowl. The offense, where is it?

S'up, WB. You oughtta get off facebook and start posting here a tons again. :)

The recieving unit as a whole aint 85-80-18-89-88 good, and i don't think 12 trusts them wankers enough to throw rocks at them in tight coverage.

Antonio Brown might be a bit crazy, but he'd definitely make the unit better. A 3rd for AB? Do it, German Shepherd!

[texaspackerbacker]

Oh ...... I was actually wondering who "AB" was in your earlier post. Hell No! We don't need him!

That throw to Graham for the TD looked like pretty tight coverage. I wouldn't want him to do that sort of thing too often - you know, interceptions ......

[pbmax]

Oh ...... I was actually wondering who "AB" was in your earlier post. Hell No! We don't need him!

That throw to Graham for the TD looked like pretty tight coverage. I wouldn't want him to do that sort of thing too often - you know, interceptions ......

Free play, he caught them with 12 men on the field.

[texaspackerbacker]

Free play, he caught them with 12 men on the field.

Wow, really? That's a true GOAT play! I didn't hear the refs say "penalty declined" though.

[Fosco33]

Get back to me in say wk 16.

Last season, beat bears in wk 1. All that win did was cost the pack, i dunno, george, err, devin bush.

Gotta stay humble and get better.

Early road division wins are much more valuable than late season. How many times have we wrapped our playoff position before week 15/16:17? Or played terrible Detroit teams that were out after week 10.

Playing early often means much healthier squads with little intel and everyone believes they can be SB champs.

Totally ‘on to the next one’ - but saying it’s just another W misses a lot of context.

[mraynrand]

There is nothing more valuable than a road win against a division rival

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Early road division wins are much more valuable than late season. How many times have we wrapped our playoff position before week 15/16:17? Or played terrible Detroit teams that were out after week 10.

Playing early often means much healthier squads with little intel and everyone believes they can be SB champs.

Totally ‘on to the next one’ - but saying it’s just another W misses a lot of context.

The Pats are prone to starting their seasons 0-2, and they always end up winning the Super Bowl. Division wins are nice, but remember this: Pack were 0-2 against the Bares in Favre’s last season in the Green and Gold, and Pack still ended up winning the North and a bye.

Everyone is jolly after a win, I’m sure. But it’s only week 1. Last season, our beloved Pack peaked in wk 1. Hopefully that ain’t the case this season.

[esoxx]

The Pats are prone to starting their seasons 0-2, and they always end up winning the Super Bowl. Division wins are nice, but remember this: Pack were 0-2 against the Bares in Favre’s last season in the Green and Gold, and Pack still ended up winning the North and a bye.

Everyone is jolly after a win, I’m sure. But it’s only week 1. Last season, our beloved Pack peaked in wk 1. Hopefully that ain’t the case this season.

Other than the fact New England hasn't started a season 0-2 since 2001, this is a very good point.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Oh ...... I was actually wondering who "AB" was in your earlier post. Hell No! We don't need him!

That throw to Graham for the TD looked like pretty tight coverage. I wouldn't want him to do that sort of thing too often - you know, interceptions ......

Aside from the bomb to MVS, and that was probably underthrown, Rodgers had a crappy game. 12 apparently can’t throw short outs anymore.

That being said, the wanker wideouts on the team wasn’t much help. Allison played the entire game, to my disgust. 0 catches. Other receivers had problems getting open consistently.

AB is probably better than anyone currently on the roster, Adams included. Ship a 2nd to Oakland if the Raiders are willing eat up 60-80% of Brown’s guaranteed salary. If Browns gets cut, he’ll end up in NE.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Other than the fact New England hasn't started a season 0-2 since 2001, this is a very good point.

Seems like they start 0-2 every season.

[texaspackerbacker]

Aside from the bomb to MVS, and that was probably underthrown, Rodgers had a crappy game. 12 apparently can’t throw short outs anymore.

That being said, the wanker wideouts on the team wasn’t much help. Allison played the entire game, to my disgust. 0 catches. Other receivers had problems getting open consistently.

AB is probably better than anyone currently on the roster, Adams included. Ship a 2nd to Oakland if the Raiders are willing eat up 60-80% of Brown’s guaranteed salary. If Browns gets cut, he’ll end up in NE.

I agree Allison ain't much good. I'd much rather see Davis, Kumerow, Lazard, etc. used instead of him. We ABsolutely do not need an overpaid troublemaker like Brown, though, not even without the cost of a draft pick.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I agree Allison ain't much good. I'd much rather see Davis, Kumerow, Lazard, etc. used instead of him. We ABsolutely do not need an overpaid troublemaker like Brown, though, not even without the cost of a draft pick.

A “troublemaker” is a domestic abuser, a gun-loving ruffian, a drunk driver, and rapist, etc. As far as I can tell, AB ain’t any of that shit.

AB is an egotist. The NFL is a circus, so who gives a fuck?

[George Cumby]

Other than the fact New England hasn't started a season 0-2 since 2001, this is a very good point.

lol

[mraynrand]

Other than the fact New England hasn't started a season 0-2 since 2001, this is a very good point.

Cheat was 0-2 to start his first two seasons in NE, with Brady starting none of those games. Those games seem totally relevant to what's happening this year.

[Teamcheez1]

A “troublemaker” is a domestic abuser, a gun-loving ruffian, a drunk driver, and rapist, etc. As far as I can tell, AB ain’t any of that shit.

AB is an egotist. The NFL is a circus, so who gives a fuck?

Didn't you also suggest we sign Krapernick as our back-up QB? Your suggestions would not be a circus, but rather an insane asylum.

[Zool]

A “troublemaker” is a domestic abuser, a gun-loving ruffian, a drunk driver, and rapist, etc. As far as I can tell, AB ain’t any of that shit.

AB is an egotist. The NFL is a circus, so who gives a fuck?

His teammates and coaches give a fuck. You might be the only one who doesn't.

[mraynrand]

APB has two fish on the line, but can he reel 'em in?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Didn't you also suggest we sign Krapernick as our back-up QB? Your suggestions would not be a circus, but rather an insane asylum.

Shedding light on social maladies makes one insane?

What’s insane is Kareem Hunt, Zeke and even Big Ben are still in the league but not Kap. Domestic abusers and rapists are welcome in the league. But let’s blackball the guy fighting the good fight.

[Fosco33]

The Pats are prone to starting their seasons 0-2, and they always end up winning the Super Bowl. Division wins are nice, but remember this: Pack were 0-2 against the Bares in Favre’s last season in the Green and Gold, and Pack still ended up winning the North and a bye.

Everyone is jolly after a win, I’m sure. But it’s only week 1. Last season, our beloved Pack peaked in wk 1. Hopefully that ain’t the case this season.

Who was jolly after watching ARod limo around. I thought season was basically done.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

His teammates and coaches give a fuck. You might be the only one who doesn't.

People pay money to watch AB play. Like I said, the nfl is a circus. AB is entertaining (and good) as an egotistical wideout, but he’s certainly not a troublemaker.

[Zool]

People pay money to watch AB play. Like I said, the nfl is a circus. AB is entertaining (and good) as an egotistical wideout, but he’s certainly not a troublemaker.

Unless of course he threatens to punch the GM and sue the NFL for not letting him wear whatever helmet he wants. Or he freezes his own feet so much that he can't run for half of training camp. Or

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/02/06/antonio-brown-domestic-dispute-florida/stories/201902060112
https://archive.triblive.com/sports/steelers/nfl-will-continue-to-monitor-lawsuit-filed-against-steelers-antonio-brown/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/antonio-brown-steelers-wide-receiver-accused-nearly-hitting-toddler-furniture-thrown-from-balcony-2018-10-09/
https://nypost.com/2018/10/09/antonio-brown-had-3-straight-police-visits-for-3-different-reasons/

But then again, who am I talking to here?

[mraynrand]

Unless of course he threatens to punch the GM and sue the NFL for not letting him wear whatever helmet he wants. Or he freezes his own feet so much that he can't run for half of training camp. Or

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/steelers/2019/02/06/antonio-brown-domestic-dispute-florida/stories/201902060112
https://archive.triblive.com/sports/steelers/nfl-will-continue-to-monitor-lawsuit-filed-against-steelers-antonio-brown/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/antonio-brown-steelers-wide-receiver-accused-nearly-hitting-toddler-furniture-thrown-from-balcony-2018-10-09/
https://nypost.com/2018/10/09/antonio-brown-had-3-straight-police-visits-for-3-different-reasons/

But then again, who am I talking to here?

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[mraynrand]

Who was jolly after watching ARod limo around. I thought season was basically done.

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[RashanGary]

Bears reactions are hilarious right now!!

[George Cumby]

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Lol.

Hooper: “20 footer”
Quint: “25!”

[George Cumby]

Bears reactions are hilarious right now!!


The crowd shots last night were priceless. I almost felt bad deriving so much pleasure from something so petty.

[Cheesehead Craig]

The crowd shots last night were priceless. I almost felt bad deriving so much pleasure from something so petty.

There was a guy in the stands wearing a "Save Ferris" shirt. That was classic.

[texaspackerbacker]

Commentators talk about (probably from a point of view of ignorance) intelligent fan bases or not so much. Booing when the Bears threw a short safe pass on 3rd and 40 says a lot about Bears fans.

[Joemailman]

Other than the fact New England hasn't started a season 0-2 since 2001, this is a very good point.


Seems like they start 0-2 every season.

New England hasn't started 0-2 since 2001. :crazy:

[pbmax]

The crowd shots last night were priceless. I almost felt bad deriving so much pleasure from something so petty.

If you are a Bear fan you have to give serious consideration to the chance that the offense is bottom of the League garbage.

Packers improved their D, but it hasn't gotten that good that fast.

[texaspackerbacker]

Are you sure it hasn't? At least three new high quality starters - great improvements over what had last year, great improvement from Alexander, quality depth of D Backs, Kenny Clark a year older and IMO noticeably better, etc.; It's very possible the Packers are that much better. We beat a damn good Bear team, and suddenly some seem to think the Bears aren't as good as they were thinking/saying just a few days ago hahahahahaha. Let's see what they Bears do over their next few games.

[pbmax]

Are you sure it hasn't? At least three new high quality starters - great improvements over what had last year, great improvement from Alexander, quality depth of D Backs, Kenny Clark a year older and IMO noticeably better, etc.; It's very possible the Packers are that much better. We beat a damn good Bear team, and suddenly some seem to think the Bears aren't as good as they were thinking/saying just a few days ago hahahahahaha. Let's see what they Bears do over their next few games.

The Bears had some good runs, moved the ball a few times and their new WR went for 100 yards. Seems like there was more there for the taking.

But it was the defense's first game too. They will get better. Trubisky not so much.

[texaspackerbacker]

There's a lot to like about Trubisky. Physically, he's close to Aaron Rodgers - almost as good, maybe even better mobility, not quite the accuracy and arm strength of Rodgers, but not that far off. He just doesn't have the brain of Rodgers. He does what some in here crave in a QB: unloads it quick into coverage. He was damn lucky he didn't get intercepted a couple more times in that game.

Yes, I think there's room for improvement in the Packer D also. The only time it seemed halfway easy for the Bears, though, was that late 4th quarter drive when the Packers seemed to change things up with less pressure.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

His teammates and coaches give a fuck. You might be the only one who doesn't.

Neither does Belichick.

Next time you question my futbol intellect, remember that 6 times SB champ Belichick agreed with me. :)

[gbgary]

There's a lot to like about Trubisky. Physically, he's close to Aaron Rodgers - almost as good, maybe even better mobility, not quite the accuracy and arm strength of Rodgers, but not that far off. He just doesn't have the brain of Rodgers. He does what some in here crave in a QB: unloads it quick into coverage. He was damn lucky he didn't get intercepted a couple more times in that game.


yup

[Patler]

There's a lot to like about Trubisky.

Especially that he is the Bears QB, at least for Packers, Lions and Vikings fans.

The Bears have so much invested in Trubisky that they will stick with him for this season and 2 or 3 more after this season. That will likely hold them back, and "waste" some very good years of defense.

[mraynrand]

Especially that he is the Bears QB, at least for Packers, Lions and Vikings fans.

lol. One of the most entertaining things as a Packer fan is watching Chicago draft Quarterbacks.

[texaspackerbacker]

It's a strange phenomenon ....... as soon as the Packers beat somebody, that team goes from being the strongest team ever to being a pile of crap - in the eyes of the negativists and detractors anyway. Sheeeeesh!

[pbmax]

It's a strange phenomenon ....... as soon as the Packers beat somebody, that team goes from being the strongest team ever to being a pile of crap - in the eyes of the negativists and detractors anyway. Sheeeeesh!

Tex, you have to admit the Bears offense looked very anemic, especially when passing.

Refusal to see things like this is a form of Vikings fandom I have encountered in my life (not Ras, his eyes are wide open). Its ALWAYS the other team doing something, never a failure of their own squad.

Its the ref, the pace, the temperature, the travel, the calls, the wind or players (Favre or Rodgers but also McMahon and the Bears) getting the calls.


* Auto correct suspects Ras is Don Was, just so you know.

[Fritz]

New England hasn't started 0-2 since 2001. :crazy:

But dammit, Joe, it seems like they start 0 - 2 every year. Seems. That's the key. It doesn't matter what their actual record is after two games.

I try so hard to educate you people. Then someone like you comes out with some crap like this, or PB actually analyzes how Rashan Gary played, including providing a link to the play he's analyzing - and all my hard work this preseason is gone, poof. And don't even get me started on Patler and his insistence on basing one's opinions on facts. That guy. Sheesh.

[Zool]

Tex, you have to admit...snip

First day here?

[pbmax]

First day here?

Given the state of my memory, every day is a new day.

"Fifty First Posts"

But I can't avoid tex. Wanted him to come back when the entire board was more negative when I was. Plus I got to compare him to Vikings fans I know :D

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, you have to admit the Bears offense looked very anemic, especially when passing.

Refusal to see things like this is a form of Vikings fandom I have encountered in my life (not Ras, his eyes are wide open). Its ALWAYS the other team doing something, never a failure of their own squad.



Chicken or Egg? Was the Bear offense that bad or the Packer defense that good? I say clearly the latter. That's kinda the converse of your second line thing - always a failure of the weak other team (they suddenly get weak after we beat them anyway); Never the goodness of our own - in the eyes of the negativists and detractors, at least.

Next we play this Vikings super team with their star QB hahahahaha. What is the line gonna be after we cut them down even worse than the Bears?

[mraynrand]

Despite having the top defense (PA), the Bears offense last year was 9th in PF and 21st in YF. Obviously defense allows the offense to play a different kind of ball control horizontal offense, but they have little ability or go vertical. It’s not a great offense. If they stay the same as last year, I’m guessing mediocre again.

[mraynrand]

Despite having the top defense (PA), the Bears offense last year was 9th in PF and 21st in YF. Obviously defense allows the offense to play a different kind of ball control horizontal offense, but they have little ability or go vertical. It’s not a great offense. If they stay the same as last year, I’m guessing mediocre again.

Tex you pointed out their lack of talent at WR relative to MN. Do you take that back?

[pbmax]

Chicken or Egg? Was the Bear offense that bad or the Packer defense that good? I say clearly the latter. That's kinda the converse of your second line thing - always a failure of the weak other team (they suddenly get weak after we beat them anyway); Never the goodness of our own - in the eyes of the negativists and detractors, at least.

Next we play this Vikings super team with their star QB hahahahaha. What is the line gonna be after we cut them down even worse than the Bears?

I expect the Vikes will score more than 3 against the Pack even on the road. So by transitive property, Vikes O better than Bears O.

[RashanGary]

Vikings offense:

Comparable OL to Chicago
Much better running back
Two very good WRs vs One in Chicago
Cousins manages the game better and throws better in every way


Much tougher matchup for our defense. But if our defense is real, we’re gonna have hold up against tougher tests than Minnesota. Glad it’s at home. I do think our secondary needs a little more experience to reach its potential. But by years end, if there is some health bounces and these young guys gel together, there’s a chance it could be better than we hoped for going in.

[texaspackerbacker]

I wouldn't dispute that the Vikings will score more than 3 points. I probably wouldn't even dispute that the Vikings offense is better than the Bears. I don't think I ever said otherwise. I would dispute that the Vikings overall are better than the Bears.

About the points, I absolutely expect the Packers to put up MUCH more than the 10 they had last game. Our D, therefore, won't be under quite the pressure to hold the opponent down - especially if we get a nice lead.

As for the comparable details: I've heard the Vikings O Line has slipped from what it was a couple years ago, but on a par with the Bears, yeah. Much better RB(s)? I'd maybe say better; Much better? That's a stretch. Better receivers? For sure - the top two WRs plus their TE all are better than the Bears. Cousins? A big No Way to that! I remember him with Washington - a penchant for picks. Trubisky IMO is as good or better thrower and obviously much more mobile. Neither has ever shown much caution or good sense. We had to use a fairly vanilla pass rush to keep Trubisky penned in. Against Cousins, I expect Pettine to open it up and do some more exotic stuff.

[Zool]

Given the state of my memory, every day is a new day.

"Fifty First Posts"

But I can't avoid tex. Wanted him to come back when the entire board was more negative when I was. Plus I got to compare him to Vikings fans I know :D

Broke Back Texan? I can’t quit you Tex.

[RashanGary]

Tex, if King is healthy the whole game.... Alexander and King are gonna make it tough on Thielen and Diggs. It’s a good matchup. I like our chances too. I fully expect AR and MLF to have a much cleaner operation in their second outing and at home. Minnesota isn’t going to luck into that opening road game like Chicago did.

[Zool]

Sidebar, are we sticking with MiLF for the new coach? Maybe a different nickname?

[pbmax]

Sidebar, are we sticking with MiLF for the new coach? Maybe a different nickname?

Nothing seems to have caught on. I'm not even excited for M4.

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, if King is healthy the whole game.... Alexander and King are gonna make it tough on Thielen and Diggs. It’s a good matchup. I like our chances too. I fully expect AR and MLF to have a much cleaner operation in their second outing and at home. Minnesota isn’t going to luck into that opening road game like Chicago did.

I'll just stick to calling him LaFleur.

I agree about those Packers' quality Corners, Tony Brown too - I was on his bandwagon before just about anybody else last year. Just the same, outstanding pass receivers are gonna shake loose occasionally from even the best Corners. One key is our Safetys - also high quality IMO - and using them to help in coverage. The bigger key, though, is getting some pretty extreme pressure on Cousins - which we will.

Rodgers is always gonna get pressured - given the O Line we have, and he'll overcome it with mobility and good sense like he always does. I expect it to be a little bit less than against the Bears, though, and I expect him to find a few more open receivers than in the first game. Also, considering that LaFleur is gonna continue to waste downs on runs like I don't like, I'm thinking they may break a couple for decent gains - as we didn't against the Bears.

[RashanGary]

The Vikings have excellent corners and safeties and linebackers and DL. It’s not getting much easier. But it is at home. That helps with crowd noise. Also, MLF and AR and company get 10 days to clean up those operational missteps from Thursday.

Based on improvement within the brand new offense, and home field, I do expect the Packers to score about 20. Keeping Minnesota below 20 isn’t going to be easy. Tex, im with you though, I think we can get some pressure on Cousins once we get them to 3rd as long. Our defense is built to get off the field now so it’s gonna be a battle both ways.

[RashanGary]

Our DL and Edge players are bigger and better than Atlanta. So Minny isn’t going to rack up hundreds of rushing yards. Also, our pass rush is really good so as soon as they get a penalty or misstep, we’re gonna get pressure on those long down and distances and get off the field. I expect a mostly defensive match with home field hopefully making the difference and buying is another week to keep evolving the offense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rewatching the game, I missed how much Montravious Adams hustled to the ball. It was encouraging. He made some plays too. I think the coaches were right about him taking the jump this year.

[RashanGary]

Rewatching the game, I missed how much Montravious Adams hustled to the ball. It was encouraging. He made some plays too. I think the coaches were right about him taking the jump this year.

Looked fast too. Faster than most DL, which makes sense cuz he ran 4.86 coming out and he’s in much better shape now. So kind of an uncommon athlete at 300 pounds. Might even run in the 4.7s now, with all the running he said he did in the offseason.

[pbmax]

I would be more impressed if he was hustling to the ball on their side of the LOS. But he has definitely improved. He is a true one gap kinda guy, but he did show better anchor on doubles.

[RashanGary]

I would be more impressed if he was hustling to the ball on their side of the LOS. But he has definitely improved. He is a true one gap kinda guy, but he did show better anchor on doubles.

He plays 5t quite a bit here. With our edge players sometimes stunting inside, and sometimes taking big risks up field with pass rushes, it’s a luxury to have a DE who runs 4.8 and can chase laterally. Once that edge player commits to abandoning the edge, the DE is the last defense to protect that part of the field. Like I said, it’s a luxury and an advantage to have an athlete like Mon there so our OLBs can take risks.

[texaspackerbacker]

Despite having the top defense (PA), the Bears offense last year was 9th in PF and 21st in YF. Obviously defense allows the offense to play a different kind of ball control horizontal offense, but they have little ability or go vertical. It’s not a great offense. If they stay the same as last year, I’m guessing mediocre again.

Tex you pointed out their lack of talent at WR relative to MN. Do you take that back?

You're saying I should take back saying the Bears WR talent is less than the Vikings? Because they were 9th in points scored passing? Uh, no. I still think it's patently obvious that the Viking wideouts - and TE too - are way better than the Bears. You didn't say where the Vikings offense ranked in points and yardage, but even if they were behind the Bears, it is what it is. Maybe Trubisky > Cousins is an explanation.

[Fritz]

Rewatching the game, I missed how much Montravious Adams hustled to the ball. It was encouraging. He made some plays too. I think the coaches were right about him taking the jump this year.

A Cletidus Hunt-style contract push?

As for the coach, he is, to me, Matt TheFlower.

[mraynrand]

You're saying I should take back saying the Bears WR talent is less than the Vikings? Because they were 9th in points scored passing? Uh, no. I still think it's patently obvious that the Viking wideouts - and TE too - are way better than the Bears. You didn't say where the Vikings offense ranked in points and yardage, but even if they were behind the Bears, it is what it is. Maybe Trubisky > Cousins is an explanation.

You made the argument that people are saying the Bears are worse now that the Packers beat them. I’m saying we knew that they weren’t all that good all along. No one thought they had a great offense. Despite any running Truby does, he’s still a marginal QB that needs a defense to win games for him. The difference is this year that the Packers defense obviously improved (three free agents, basically 2-3 other new starters depending on how you look at injured returning. Their two huge holes at safety and pass rush have been overwhelmingly addressed). But your dumb argument about people downgrading the Bears just because they lost to the Packers remains just that - dumb. By your own arguments.

[George Cumby]

You made the argument that people are saying the Bears are worse now that the Packers beat them. I’m saying we knew that they weren’t all that good all along. No one thought they had a great offense. Despite any running Truby does, he’s still a marginal QB that needs a defense to win games for him. The difference is this year that the Packers defense obviously improved (three free agents, basically 2-3 other new starters depending on how you look at injured returning. Their two huge holes at safety and pass rush have been overwhelmingly addressed). But your dumb argument about people downgrading the Bears just because they lost to the Packers remains just that - dumb. By your own arguments.

And this is a surprise to........ no-one.

Sidebar: I like MILFs so I like MiLF.

[RashanGary]

Well, Tex gonna come and pound points so hard, and in ways that are insulting to people’s intelligence, I guess he gonna take a couple karma shots.

[texaspackerbacker]

You made the argument that people are saying the Bears are worse now that the Packers beat them. I’m saying we knew that they weren’t all that good all along. No one thought they had a great offense. Despite any running Truby does, he’s still a marginal QB that needs a defense to win games for him. The difference is this year that the Packers defense obviously improved (three free agents, basically 2-3 other new starters depending on how you look at injured returning. Their two huge holes at safety and pass rush have been overwhelmingly addressed). But your dumb argument about people downgrading the Bears just because they lost to the Packers remains just that - dumb. By your own arguments.

Just because you and/or whoever says it doesn't make Trubisky a bad QB. Ditto that for Dak Prescott, who some in here (not necessarily you) have disparaged.

My point was the hypocrisy of people (not necessarily you) who were building up the Bears as such a super team that we had no chance against BEFORE we beat them, then suddenly turning it all around to "oh, the Packers can beat them, so they must not be much of a team" AFTER the game. There are some people (not necessarily you) who are just so damn scared to be labeled "homers" that they display that kind of bullshit mentality.

"The difference is this year that the Packers defense obviously improved (three free agents, basically 2-3 other new starters depending on how you look at injured returning. Their two huge holes at safety and pass rush have been overwhelmingly addressed)." - This is what I've been saying all along. Those changes moved our D from sad sack to among the very best in the NFL. That plus a healthy Aaron Rodgers and improvement albeit without personnel changes in our receivers make the Packers a top tier offensive team also - despite the mediocre O Line and the silliness of this run first crap which I assume LaFleur will persist in pushing. The bottom line about that is that as long as we keep winning - even games that are a lot closer than they should be - by wasting a bunch of downs running, they're gonna stubbornly do that, and I can live with that - a win is a win is a win. But one of these weeks, we undoubtedly will need Aaron Rodgers to revert to what the detractors are so disapproving of, and take over the game and win it with a massive pass first comeback. And some fools (not necessarily you) will probably still piss and moan hahahaha.

How am I doing with the pounding, RG? hahahahahaha

[mraynrand]

You’re whole argument is based on a straw man in your head. Name names. Who did this magical turnaround you cite? Maybe one poster? Who was it?

[gbgary]

the experimental, "work-in-progress", O looked like crap all game long. it was the bears' D, and they gave the Packers fits, but rodgers didn't have a good throw all night. too low, too high, behind, ahead, floaters, and a prayer that was caught by graham for a td. held the ball too long, didn't set his feet. the O looked like it hadn't had a snap in anger all preseason. oh...wait!
thank petine and gute for the D that looked very good. penalties were a problem for both teams especially the bears. MLF's decision to run on 3rd down late when they needed a first down thankfully didn't come back to bite them. scott is an all-pro lol. special teams looked great. no running game but again that bear front 7 is very tough.
an unexpected W is always the sweetest. 1-0!!

[pbmax]

the experimental, "work-in-progress", O looked like crap all game long. it was the bears' D, and they gave the Packers fits, but rodgers didn't have a good throw all night. too low, too high, behind, ahead, floaters, and a prayer that was caught by graham for a td. held the ball too long, didn't set his feet. the O looked like it hadn't had a snap in anger all preseason. oh...wait!
thank petine and gute for the D that looked very good. penalties were a problem for both teams especially the bears. MLF's decision to run on 3rd down late when they needed a first down thankfully didn't come back to bite them. scott is an all-pro lol. special teams looked great. no running game but again that bear front 7 is very tough.
an unexpected W is always the sweetest. 1-0!!

It ain't the preseason.

Chris Hayre @chrishayre
No preseason, no problem:

Philip Rivers 11-of-17, 117 yards, 2 TDs
Keenan Allen 4 rec, 58 yards, 1 TD

Chargers 17-6 at the half.

[gbgary]

i wondered if guys weren't getting open or was rodgers ignoring open guys again. ben fennell's film breakdown confirmed the latter. rodgers has to get past his old habits and give the new O a chance. run it as it's designed, abandon the rodgers hybrid version, and get on with it...before it's too late.

https://twitter.com/BenFennell_NFL/status/1170866019692363777

https://theathletic.com/1194281/2019/09/09/fennells-packers-film-room-green-bays-defense-rescues-struggling-offense-in-week-1-win-over-bears/

[The Shadow]

If the Bears can only stay the course, they will finish the season with 0 defensive takeaways.