2019 Other Games Thread

[mraynrand]

Since there are NFL games every day of the week now, maybe we can have just one thread for the whole season to comment on them all.

[mraynrand]

What is Randy Moss doing on my TV? ESPN lol.

[mraynrand]

Gees-o-Pete and they have Foot Fetish right next to him. What a crew!

[mraynrand]

Burnett and Randall are you starting safeties, Tretter at center today for the Browns.

[mraynrand]

Peterman is a healthy scratch today. No two yard runs for him. He wanted to get 1600 yards this year on 800 carries.

[mraynrand]

Sexy Rexy: “there’s being in shape and there’s being in football shape”. Never heard that before. #clichefest.

[mraynrand]

Diggs listed as questionable will play

[mraynrand]

Takes the 4 Florida home teams today. Hot and humid. Visiting teams will be wearing their home unis.

[mraynrand]

Sam Ficken: get a ticket to Cleveland.

[mraynrand]

Randall “Blue Emo” covers no one and gives up a 47 yarder.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Atlanta is terrible.

[mraynrand]

Cousins gets hit hard. Fumble looks like a pass. Zimmer has to challenge.

[mraynrand]

Atlanta is terrible.

Do you ever recover from a loss like that SB? Packers didn’t (NFCC 2014). Almost have to turn everything over and reset.

[mraynrand]

Looks like the Bills offensive strategy is to encourage late hits on Josh Allen.

[mraynrand]

Cameron Wake beasting early

[mraynrand]

Foles already finished in Jacksonville

[mraynrand]

Foles may have a left clavicle fracture. But don’t run the ball and let him get hit.

[mraynrand]

KC defense still suspect.

[Rastak]

Foles may have a left clavicle fracture. But don’t run the ball and let him get hit.

Damn, sucks to be the Jags.

[Rastak]

Dolphins are getting it rammed up the keister.

[Fritz]

Damn, sucks to be the Jags.

First game of the season, and your playoff hopes go into the toilet. Tough.

[mraynrand]

Mahomes hurt ankle. Break mechanism but more likely sprain.

[Rastak]

Keenum kicking the Eagles ass.

[Rastak]

Mahomes hurt ankle. Break mechanism but more likely sprain.

Hope it isn’t too bad.

[Rastak]

Dalvin Cook is rippin it up and the rookie too.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Dalvin Cook is rippin it up and the rookie too.

Hell of a rushing attack they have going on

[Rastak]

Hell of a rushing attack they have going on

Makes up for Cousins looking like shit.

[gbgary]

min killing atl.

[pbmax]

Randall “Blue Emo” covers no one and gives up a 47 yarder.

Not having a good game is he? I tuned in just after that TD

[pbmax]

Isn't Atlanta's coach still a bald Seattle defensive guy? What has happened to them?

More evidence that for most teams, its not the scheme, its the players?

[mraynrand]

Cleveland is a hot mess - five personal foul penalties. Tossing LT Robinson for kicking. Spriggs, get your ticket to Cleveland.

[mraynrand]

Hope it isn’t too bad.

He’s still in there

[mraynrand]

Watch carefully. The IBM commercial says “To change things” and shows a picture of a skyscraper lighting up. I swear to god that it’s the model from “The Towering Inferno”.

Change things indeed!

[mraynrand]

70 yard punt in Cleveland.

[pbmax]

Freddie Kitchens might not be a savior yet.

[yetisnowman]

Do you ever recover from a loss like that SB? Packers didn’t (NFCC 2014). Almost have to turn everything over and reset.

I live in metro Atlanta, and can assure you the team and the fanbase had their spirit and pyche completely broken that day. It's weird that collapse and the fallout did give me some comfort. I really didn't think anything could top the choke in Seattle. Falcons said "hold my beer".

[pbmax]

Whatever the opposite look is for disciplined, Kitchens is living it.

[Rastak]

Cleveland is a hot mess - five personal foul penalties. Tossing LT Robinson for kicking. Spriggs, get your ticket to Cleveland.


The belle of the ball has been reading their own press clippings.

[mraynrand]

NE is gonna have 7 bye weeks

[Rastak]

It’s gonna take several hours to extract the Ravens foot from the Dolphins ass.

[mraynrand]

Case Keenum on fire in Philly.

[mraynrand]

It’s gonna take several hours to extract the Ravens foot from the Dolphins ass.

If it were college they’d score 80

[mraynrand]

KC Jacksonville is a good fight. Might have a football game break out in the second half.

[pbmax]

Beckham, flag or no, is just great.

[pbmax]

Going to rock my world if Case Keenum is an actual NFL QB.

[pbmax]

It’s gonna take several hours to extract the Ravens foot from the Dolphins ass.

Tanking for Tua!

[Cheesehead Craig]

KC Jacksonville is a good fight. Might have a football game break out in the second half.

Mahommes may have 500 yrs today.

[mraynrand]

Redskins show how hard it is to get rid of VD.

[pbmax]

Justin McCray is in at RT versus Cameron Wake. :roll:

[pbmax]

Maybe Eliot Wolf was why it took Ted so long to get the O line rebuilt.

AJ Brown. Wow.

[pbmax]

Only good ad I have seen is Jerome Bettis on a flag football team.

[Rastak]

Ant Harris is having one helluva game.

[Fosco33]

Vikes D looking very good

[Rastak]

Looks like the Brownies are back in it.

[Joemailman]

Jags lose Foles to injury and Myles jack ejected for fighting. That's what they get for resting their starters in the last preseason game.

[Rastak]

Looks like the Brownies are back in it.

I stand corrected. Browns give up the quick TD

[mraynrand]

Clay has no idea what his defensive responsibility is. Follow the TE outside, don’t double the RB inside. Olson wide open. Fortunately for the Rams, Cam has no accuracy.

[Rastak]

Eagles came storming back.

[esoxx]

Vikings looking good. Should be one hell of a game next week in Lambeau. Slugfest

[mraynrand]

Sports radio in Cleveland will be fun tomorrow.

Hide all the sharp implements.

[Rastak]

Vikings looking good. Should be one hell of a game next week in Lambeau. Slugfest

I agree. Both defenses looked good, should be a knock down drag out fight.

[Rastak]

Sports radio in Cleveland will be fun tomorrow.

Hide all the sharp implements.

You aren’t kidding.

[esoxx]

I agree. Both defenses looked good, should be a knock down drag out fight.

I typically attend the opener and was super-psyched when the schedule was released. Early measure of North division opponents.

[mraynrand]

Cleveland is clearing the path to bring in Stubby.

[pbmax]

OK, so we offer Tim Boyle Laser Show to Cleveland. Who do we want back from them?

[Rastak]

Cleveland is clearing the path to bring in Stubby.

Not far fetched at all.

[mraynrand]

OK, so we offer Tim Boyle Laser Show to Cleveland. Who do we want back from them?

Are you giving up on the league MVP already?

[mraynrand]

Remember, the Cowboys are a Super Bowl contender and the Giants are a franchise in decline.

[RashanGary]

I agree. Both defenses looked good, should be a knock down drag out fight.

Vikes look tough for sure. Cousins twice the QB that Turdbisky is. Our secondary’s first real test. Thielen and Diggs savvy as fuck. Cook is a great runner and Cousins is incredibly accurate. Packers lucky it’s at home cuz Vikings offense is better right now than Packers. Of course, that’s against a bad Atlanta D at home.

But still. Gonna be a battle

[RashanGary]

I begrudgenly admit, the Vikings fans are really cool. I view myself as a salt of the earth northerner so I relate to them for sure.

[pbmax]

Are you giving up on the league MVP already?

You have to give up something (League MVP) to get something (functional ILB, maybe Joe Schobert).

[pbmax]

The Redskins couldn't even keep up the pretense of being a real team for an entire game.

[mraynrand]

Zeke Elliot is a beloved player on the cowboys. He makes people laugh.

He also likes long walks and the sound of a gentle rain on the porch.

I don’t think Incan take anymore of the Cowboy fluffers just to see Cobb play.

[mraynrand]

You have to give up something (League MVP) to get something (functional ILB, maybe Joe Schobert).

I meant Mayfield.

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahahaha Bears were GREAT; We beat 'em so now they're crap; Vikings are super because they're next on the schedule. Yeah Right.

[pbmax]

I meant Mayfield.

:lol:

When you said League MVP, naturally I just assumed you meant the Laser Show.

[mraynrand]

Troy now always loved Cobb and his QB friendly routes.

[pbmax]

Good chance Chris Jones gets fined for that hit on Foles. Was there a flag? Much worse than Matthews.

[mraynrand]

Good chance Chris Jones gets fined for that hit on Foles. Was there a flag? Much worse than Matthews.
No flag

[mraynrand]

Prescott is really a marginal QB, but Dallas has a good O line.

[Rastak]

Prescott is really a marginal QB, but Dallas has a good O line.

I agree with you on that. He’s ok but they have a good OL and Zeke is good.

[RashanGary]

That OL is incredible. I liked ours, but not as much anymore.

[texaspackerbacker]

Remember, the Cowboys are a Super Bowl contender and the Giants are a franchise in decline.

Yeah, remember that - and your post - a couple hours from now hahahahahaha.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, remember that - and your post - a couple hours from now hahahahahaha.

That’s what the pregame guys said.

[mraynrand]

I don’t think the Giants are a good team, but the franchise is OK.

[pbmax]

Dak ain’t that bad.

We have had 18 replays of the least controversial intentional grounding I have ever seen. But no replays of the 12 men on the field that Troy, Joe and Pat Shurmur want to talk about.

[Rastak]

Dak ain’t that bad.

We have had 18 replays of the least controversial intentional grounding I have ever seen. But no replays of the 12 men on the field that Troy, Joe and Pat Shurmur want to talk about.

It appears Red Zone got pulled off Comcast so I gotta watch the Lions-Cards.

[Rastak]

Kyler Is looking like complete shit for the Cards.

[pbmax]

Boys pulling away.

[RashanGary]

Eli is a good player. He got his two rings and a bunch of money, but he’s screwed with that defense.

[RashanGary]

No pass rush = no chance. We know that better than anyone.

[pbmax]

Eli is a good player. He got his two rings and a bunch of money, but he’s screwed with that defense.

Eli is the perfect example of why you can’t checkdown to success.

[pbmax]

And Eli out to prove me wrong by proving me right.

[RashanGary]

Eli is the perfect example of why you can’t checkdown to success.

Eli has as many rings as Rodgers and Favre combined.

[RashanGary]

Brady has 7x as many as Rodgers doing a ton of checkdowns

[pbmax]

How should we defend the cowboys pass offense? Let’s let the best WR get deep on us.

[pbmax]

Brady has 7x as many as Rodgers doing a ton of checkdowns

Yes. Check-downs are the difference between these two teams.

[pbmax]

Eli has as many rings as Rodgers and Favre combined.

And the last five years?

You wanna dig up Otto Graham? Sign Joe Montana?

[yetisnowman]

Cobb looking spry in Dallas.

[RashanGary]

Cobb better used in Dallas

[RashanGary]

Yes. Check-downs are the difference between these two teams.

No more than Elis check downs are the problem with this defenseless Giants team and shoddy OL.

[Rastak]

I begrudgenly admit, the Vikings fans are really cool. I view myself as a salt of the earth northerner so I relate to them for sure.


There are an element of bandwagon jumpers but us hardcore guys love "our" team just like you guys. I've lived and died with them since the late 60's....mostly died.....well, OK always died.

[RashanGary]

There are an element of bandwagon jumpers but us hardcore guys love "our" team just like you guys. I've lived and died with them since the late 60's....mostly died.....well, OK always died.

Yeah, you guys are a great fan base for sure. Very similar to Green Bay. Even more northern flavor and I’m from upper penninsula of Michigan so it’s just like my people.

Chicago fans look like prissy little bitches. They don’t belong. Those old school Ditka guys are gone. It’s a bunch of shitty city slickers now.

[RashanGary]

Die already, Jerry Jones

[Rastak]

Yeah, you guys are a great fan base for sure. Very similar to Green Bay. Even more northern flavor and I’m from upper penninsula of Michigan so it’s just like my people.

Chicago fans look like prissy little bitches. They don’t belong. Those old school Ditka guys are gone. It’s a bunch of shitty city slickers now.


I will say I attended a Viking Bears game at Soldier Field sort of through work and the dudes I was partying with were awesome. They love their team like we love ours. I also tailgaited with some Bears fans in Minneapolis and had some beers with them and we had some cool football conversations.
My two questions to them were the following.

1) Who was the greatest Bear running back, Gayle Sayers or Walter Payton. I said Sayers and it was mixed.
2) Who was/is the greatest Bears linebacker, Butkus or Erlacher. We all agreed Butkus.

Erlacher was still playing then.

[RashanGary]

Interesting!

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ras, we still need to get together sometime for that drink. I'm on the west side of the cities.

[pbmax]

Why did the Lions call timeout?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Why did the Lions call timeout?

I think their defense was gassed. And discombobulated. What a beautiful play for the touchdown.

[pbmax]

Kyler Murray just scored a TD. Need a 2 pointer

[Cheesehead Craig]

Kyler Murray leads them back!

[Rastak]

Kyler Murray just scored a TD. Need a 2 pointer


They got it, likely overtime.

[pbmax]

Wow. Tie game. Penalty on Leos and TO left Cardinals in NO hurry. They were out of TO under a minute on their 8.

Lions gifted them a stress free red zone.

[pbmax]

FG is a long shot here. Need 25 yards but no timeouts.

[Rastak]

OT it is....crazy game.

[pbmax]

No one can beat a dead horse into the ground quite like Bud.

[pbmax]

No more than Elis check downs are the problem with this defenseless Giants team and shoddy OL.

Eli has been getting worse for years.

[pbmax]

Jeebus. Flat footed 50 yarder.

[Rastak]

Wow, nice grab by Fitz....former Viking ball boy.

[Rastak]

2nd and goal, quite the game.

[pbmax]

Was a late hit.

[pbmax]

Cards with 3 point lead in OT and underrated uniforms.

[Freak Out]

0-0-1

[RashanGary]

Tom and cheat doing well with check downs.

[RashanGary]

Very few intermediate or long throws by Brady

[RashanGary]

Slants, short crossers, in the flat, runs..... yep, it works for some teams.

[RashanGary]

Quick snaps, few audibles, pace, execution and consistency more than trickery and over complexity.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pittsburgh's defense just isn't all that good either.

[texaspackerbacker]

Remember, the Cowboys are a Super Bowl contender and the Giants are a franchise in decline.


Yeah, remember that - and your post - a couple hours from now hahahahahaha.

The first time I tried this multiple quote thing;

Rand, I just wanted to make sure you remembered your post. Of course, it certainly wasn't an example of your classic sarcasm, was it?

It's hard to say what "declining franchise" means, but they certainly aren't near the team the Cowboys are. I suspect nobody in the East is.

[pbmax]

The first time I tried this multiple quote thing;

Rand, I just wanted to make sure you remembered your post. Of course, it certainly wasn't an example of your classic sarcasm, was it?

It's hard to say what "declining franchise" means, but they certainly aren't near the team the Cowboys are. I suspect nobody in the East is.

Tex, he was talking about the annoucers, not making a prediction.

[pbmax]

That was a beautiful, short, 40 yard pass for a TD.

[Guiness]

Pittsburgh's defense just isn't all that good either.

not sure what's going on but NE seems to be moving down the field at will, and just after someone said Brady wasn't throwing deep he hits a long one that goes for a TD.

[Rutnstrut]

Brady looks damn good. Then again he did play in the preseason.

[pbmax]

I see where Fritz gets it from:

Detroit Free Press @freep
FINAL: The Lions Lions’d, the Cardinals Cardinals’d, everyone’s unhappy and it’s all okay because one day the Earth will get swallowed by the sun and nothing will ever exist ever again

[Guiness]

NE offense is having a track meet.

Pretty sure I heard that characteristic helmet to helmet click on the tackle of Gordon after the long reception.

[pbmax]

Whose offense is worse: Bears or Steelers?

[RashanGary]

That was a beautiful, short, 40 yard pass for a TD.

He threw short stuff for a long time before he had those deep gifts. We would get those too.

[RashanGary]

That was a beautiful, short, 40 yard pass for a TD.


Stop trolling me :lol:

[RashanGary]

Problem with our usual offense is we leave huge chunks of the field that we just don’t attack. I don’t understand why any team would want that rigid of tendencies. Makes defense easier for sure.

[RashanGary]

What the flying fuck was the Kelly Clarkson promo? That was weird.

[Bretsky]

For those who doubted him, TJ Hockenson looked pretty dam good

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, he was talking about the annoucers, not making a prediction.

I don't know, it just sounded like his usual annoying sarcasm to me. If the guy ever came out and said something straight, it would be the first time.

[RashanGary]

For those who doubted him, TJ Hockenson looked pretty dam good

He’s the guy I wanted. Gute was asked about him and it looked like Gute almost rolled his eyes as of to say he would have never taken Hock that high and he’s really glad to get Gary. I’m curious now to see it play out. If Gute is wrong, he’s really wrong and it will say a lot to me.

[Radagast]

He’s the guy I wanted. Gute was asked about him and it looked like Gute almost rolled his eyes as of to say he would have never taken Hock that high and he’s really glad to get Gary. I’m curious now to see it play out. If Gute is wrong, he’s really wrong and it will say a lot to me.

I too was hoping for T.J.Hockenson or his Iowa teammate Noah Fant. The Lions and the Broncos got good blue chip college TEs. Hockensen may be the better player now, but Fant made the Broncos 53 man roster. I cant get excited over their new pro QB's, but sometimes talent does shine through

I never like it when any 1st or 2nd round draft picks are used to gamble on a "project" like Rashan Gary. IMO, projects should be restricted to 5th or later round picks. Undrafted Free Agents can be projects too.

[mraynrand]

I don't know, it just sounded like his usual annoying sarcasm to me. If the guy ever came out and said something straight, it would be the first time.

Piss off. How’s that?

[mraynrand]

The first time I tried this multiple quote thing;

Rand, I just wanted to make sure you remembered your post. Of course, it certainly wasn't an example of your classic sarcasm, was it?

It's hard to say what "declining franchise" means, but they certainly aren't near the team the Cowboys are. I suspect nobody in the East is.

It’s a game day thread. I’m reacting to crap on the TV including commercials. Obviously you probably aren’t seeing what I am so some of it comes across as weird or irrelevant. Not unlike most of the crap I post. Anyway, I already explained what I thought was silly about the original comment.

[mraynrand]

not sure what's going on but NE seems to be moving down the field at will, and just after someone said Brady wasn't throwing deep he hits a long one that goes for a TD.

What I saw:

NE established the run against a defense geared to stop their passing attack. Then they gutted Pittsburgh’s with play action and deliberately going after the rookie MLB, who was confused and picked a lot. patriots’ picks are subtle and sublime.

Brady and guys like Edelman are always and absolutely on point. The O line blocking was dominant. What else needs to be said?

Oh, Pittsburgh’s offense is a tire fire without Bell and Brown. It sucks when you can’t run the ball and your WRs cant get open.

[pbmax]

Problem with our usual offense is we leave huge chunks of the field that we just don’t attack. I don’t understand why any team would want that rigid of tendencies. Makes defense easier for sure.

They were attacking them. Rodgers just couldn't complete them. Oddly, he was better in the middle of the field with Graham and RBs. but on outs and flats it was bad.

That game alone moved me 5% closer to gbgary's position of "he is done, never should have done the contract".

[pbmax]

For those who doubted him, TJ Hockenson looked pretty dam good

We'll just refer to him and The Hock from now on.

[Teamcheez1]

For those who doubted him, TJ Hockenson looked pretty dam good

I would have been more upset taking a TE at 12 than Rashan Gary.

[mraynrand]

I would have been more upset taking a TE at 12 than Rashan Gary.

Yep. Already spent $$$ on a TE and then we’re able to draft an injury prone TE in the fourth. Packers are set at TE. Even Lewis, that old 300TD model, looks invigorated.

Gary and Sternberger set the Pack up for the future.

[RashanGary]

Gary looked good in his very limited snaps. A stunt that showed his speed and another where he bulled over an OG like he was a rookie TE. So Gary definitely showed some NFL mettle. And I’m committed to what I saw on the Michigan tape. But still, that preseason made me second guess what I saw. We need Gary to plow a couple more mother fuckers over in the coming weeks so we can know it’s real. Clark already had the guy off balance when Gary launched him.

[texaspackerbacker]

It’s a game day thread. I’m reacting to crap on the TV including commercials. Obviously you probably aren’t seeing what I am so some of it comes across as weird or irrelevant. Not unlike most of the crap I post. Anyway, I already explained what I thought was silly about the original comment.

ok, I'll buy that.

I took it as a knock on my second favorite team when they got behind 7-0 to the damn declining Giants - a situation I was pretty sure was very temporary. If that wasn't the case, fine.

[George Cumby]

They were attacking them. Rodgers just couldn't complete them. Oddly, he was better in the middle of the field with Graham and RBs. but on outs and flats it was bad.

That game alone moved me 5% closer to gbgary's position of "he is done, never should have done the contract".

Is it 5 or 7%? Make up your mind. You're worse than my wife.

[mraynrand]

...
I took it as a knock on my second favorite team ......

Other than when their winning helps the Packers, I hope the Cowboys lose every game 72-0.

[pbmax]

Is it 5 or 7%? Make up your mind. You're worse than my wife.

Its gone up. 5% after the Bears game.

7% after watching a functional Cobb.

And your wife warned me you didn't pay attention :lol:

[pbmax]

Other than when their winning helps the Packers, I hope the Cowboys lose every game 72-0.

You forgot the debilitating injuries.

[George Cumby]

Its gone up. 5% after the Bears game.

7% after watching a functional Cobb.

And your wife warned me you didn't pay attention :lol:

What were we talking about?

[mraynrand]

You forgot the debilitating injuries.

Baked in. You’re gonna need a few career-enders to lose that big.

P/S for those of you with weak constitutions, I’m just kidding. I don’t want any Cowboys hurt. Well, not seriously hurt anyway.

[George Cumby]

You forgot the debilitating injuries.

And the Pox.

[pbmax]

And the Pox.

Good touch. Can't be MRSA, that is Cleveland's curse.

[pbmax]

Can’t play plain zone versus Brees.

[yetisnowman]

Good ol "overrated" Taysom Hill strikes again.

[Rutnstrut]

Brees is old and short and still throwing the ball better than Rodgers.

[texaspackerbacker]

YEAH!!!! Aaron Rodgers 2.0 - Deshaun Watson!

[pbmax]

How can that play be that wrong twice?

[pbmax]

Good ol "overrated" Taysom Hill strikes again.

Would be higher on him as a WR.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think I was the first guy on the Deshaun Watson train here. Dude is gonna be sooo good.

[ThunderDan]

What a horrible call! Touched the kickers toe and the call a 15 yard penalty after a missed PAT.

[texaspackerbacker]

Oh Well.

I wonder whether Houston had the option to take the 15 yards on the kick off. It would have been smarter if they could have - trust your kicker not to miss two in a row.

[pbmax]

Texans would have been better off with no penalty and a tie. NO might not try to drive.

[pbmax]

Not sure Denver’s offense can score 7 points to catch Oakland. But their Defense could

[esoxx]

Carr looked sharp on that opening drive. Jacobs could be a player.

[mraynrand]

Good ol "overrated" Taysom Hill strikes again.

Did Brees get hurt?

[texaspackerbacker]

Hill caught the winning TD pass from Brees.

[mraynrand]

Hill caught the winning TD pass from Brees.

I thought a FG won the game.

Who cares what Hill does as a gadget?

[texaspackerbacker]

I shoulda said TD that put them in the lead. I really don't care about Hill one way or the other either - just responding to your question about Brees getting hurt.

[mraynrand]

I shoulda said TD that put them in the lead. I really don't care about Hill one way or the other either - just responding to your question about Brees getting hurt.

That was sarcasm. Yeti knows the issue is whether Hill can play QB/ be a solid backup.

[mraynrand]

I enjoyed Hopkins’ tackle after the INT. Worth the penalty.

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?hidenav=true&id=27581960&playertech=brightcove&roadblock=false

[Cheesehead Craig]

I enjoyed Hopkins’ tackle after the INT. Worth the penalty.

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?hidenav=true&id=27581960&playertech=brightcove&roadblock=false

He's now the new Intercontinental Champion.

[yetisnowman]

That was sarcasm. Yeti knows the issue is whether Hill can play QB/ be a solid backup.

No that's not the issue for me. The issue is he should have made the roster because he's a talented, versatile football player. I've made that clear. You belittle gadget plays as if when Hill runs for 8 yards it's worth less than an 8 yard pass. Or if he catches a TD it's not valuable to his team.
So yeah if he scores TDs for a playoff caliber team it's understandably frustrating to fans. It's not like this offense has been setting the world on fire without him.

[mraynrand]

No that's not the issue for me. The issue is he should have made the roster because he's a talented, versatile football player. I've made that clear. You belittle gadget plays as if when Hill runs for 8 yards it's worth less than an 8 yard pass. Or if he catches a TD it's not valuable to his team.
So yeah if he scores TDs for a playoff caliber team it's understandably frustrating to fans. It's not like this offense has been setting the world on fire without him.

That was not my recollection of the conversation about backup QBs, but I do recall saying I don’t care about the bottom of the roster when the top is a disaster. There are a million plays and gadgets you can design with guys other than Hill to do the same thing. But again, other than the backup QB question, I don’t care much. Certainly you did to make some sort of poke at the forum. Maybe someone else cares about bottom of roster gadget stuff or third string QBs who throws their body around a couple of times for 8 yards. I’m already bored. Bueller? Bueller?

[mraynrand]

No that's not the issue for me. The issue is he should have made the roster because he's a talented, versatile football player. I've made that clear. You belittle gadget plays as if when Hill runs for 8 yards it's worth less than an 8 yard pass. Or if he catches a TD it's not valuable to his team.
So yeah if he scores TDs for a playoff caliber team it's understandably frustrating to fans. It's not like this offense has been setting the world on fire without him.

I just want you to know that as we argue over third string QB value, over in Dubai they are enjoying the luxury of AI toilets. We really are fighting over the scraps of civilization.

[pbmax]

I enjoyed Hopkins’ tackle after the INT. Worth the penalty.

http://www.espn.com/watch/player?hidenav=true&id=27581960&playertech=brightcove&roadblock=false

Skills guys should get to suplex.

[pbmax]

No that's not the issue for me. The issue is he should have made the roster because he's a talented, versatile football player. I've made that clear. You belittle gadget plays as if when Hill runs for 8 yards it's worth less than an 8 yard pass. Or if he catches a TD it's not valuable to his team.
So yeah if he scores TDs for a playoff caliber team it's understandably frustrating to fans. It's not like this offense has been setting the world on fire without him.

I would agree if there weren't larger, more basic problems with the Packers offense. And Hill isn't the answer to any of them.

[mraynrand]

I would agree if there weren't larger, more basic problems with the Packers offense. And Hill isn't the answer to any of them.

Just fix Rodgers mechanics and improve online blocking and off we go.....


‘Just’

[RashanGary]

Rodgers mechanics have slipped. He’s become so good at throwing off platform and doing uncommonly spectacular things, it’s like he’s forgotten to just do the easy things. That body twisted 60 yard throw to MVS that looked like it was going the other way was ridiculous. But then he throws an easy one at a guys feet. Makes no sense.

[pbmax]

Rodgers mechanics have slipped. He’s become so good at throwing off platform and doing uncommonly spectacular things, it’s like he’s forgotten to just do the easy things. That body twisted 60 yard throw to MVS that looked like it was going the other way was ridiculous. But then he throws an easy one at a guys feet. Makes no sense.

They should just show him his completion percentage in League rank.

[RashanGary]

Really good sleeper running back I watched this week is Ronald Jones in Tampa. Looked similar to Dalvin Cook, and that’s high praise. Tampa’s QB is bad, so the offense sucks, but the RB is damn good.

Another one who’s not as much of a sleeper but still impressed the hell out of me was Christian McCaffrey. Best white running back I’ve ever seen. Looks like he could play WR too. He should be in New England.

[RashanGary]

Andy Dalton looked really good too. Too bad he’s on that team. He’s a good QB

[Fritz]

Lions have a home game against the Chargers this week. Already, the radio heads are calling this a "must win" after that debacle in the desert last week.

Chargers are apparently fairly beatable, with key players out and Rivers apparently watching his arm turn into a noodle.

Go Bolts!

[Bretsky]

Is Mccaffrey the best white RB ever ???????????

[esoxx]

And here we go with the fucking weather delay bullshit. I hate Roger Goodell.

[mraynrand]

Is Mccaffrey the best white RB ever ???????????

whut?

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/chippewa.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/0/de/0de22e81-a159-57d1-bf50-0ccef35081be/576f1dda2360e.image.jpg

[George Cumby]

^ Michael Keaton has aged poorly. Did not know he played football.

[pbmax]

Nah, this is the guy you want. The middle one.


https://i2.wp.com/anotherslice.life/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/grabowski-taylor-and-brockington.jpg?resize=300%2C199&ssl=1


CAPTION: At these events you can wander around and then suddenly find yourself in front of three of the greatest running backs in Packer history. This is Jim Grabowski, Jimmy Taylor and John Brockington

[Rutnstrut]

No that's not the issue for me. The issue is he should have made the roster because he's a talented, versatile football player. I've made that clear. You belittle gadget plays as if when Hill runs for 8 yards it's worth less than an 8 yard pass. Or if he catches a TD it's not valuable to his team.
So yeah if he scores TDs for a playoff caliber team it's understandably frustrating to fans. It's not like this offense has been setting the world on fire without him.





I agree with you about Hill. But it probably wouldn't have mattered as stubby probably wouldn't have used him.

[Rutnstrut]

And here we go with the fucking weather delay bullshit. I hate Roger Goodell.




That fucker even controls the weather now? What a prick.

[esoxx]

That fucker even controls the weather now? What a prick.

It's his policies doofus.

[mraynrand]

It's his policies doofus.

What specifically are you objecting to? IIRC, I heard in another broadcast that they require 30 min from the last lightning strike and that the lighting has to be over 8 miles away. Should it be something else?

[esoxx]

What specifically are you objecting to? IIRC, I heard in another broadcast that they require 30 min from the last lightning strike and that the lighting has to be over 8 miles away. Should it be something else?

Yeah, like it was before Goodell.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, like it was before Goodell.

honestly, I don't recall what happened in regular season games before Goodell. I do recall at least 2 HOF games being cancelled for lightning and one other one for lightning and then excessive rain (Packers vs. Chiefs before the 2003 season).

[esoxx]

honestly, I don't recall what happened in regular season games before Goodell. I do recall at least 2 HOF games being cancelled for lightning and one other one for lightning and then excessive rain (Packers vs. Chiefs before the 2003 season).

Right, rare occasions and preseason games. Now, there's policy if there's lightning within a certain distance of the stadium (I guess 8 miles) the game is automatically suspended for 30 minutes. And if there should happen to be lightning say six miles away at the 28 minute mark of the delay, then delay clock is reset for 30 additional minutes. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ridiculous.

[mraynrand]

And if there should happen to be lightning say six miles away at the 28 minute mark of the delay, then delay clock is reset for 30 additional minutes. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ridiculous.

Ah, that is silly. In any case, I say play on. They have those lighting rods for a reason. They'll get hit more likely than players, and the fans, especially Cam Newton fans, if they get struck at all, will figure God is doing them a solid.

[pbmax]

When they say lighting doesn't strike the same place twice, do they mean the stadium or a particular seat?

[pbmax]

Right, rare occasions and preseason games. Now, there's policy if there's lightning within a certain distance of the stadium (I guess 8 miles) the game is automatically suspended for 30 minutes. And if there should happen to be lightning say six miles away at the 28 minute mark of the delay, then delay clock is reset for 30 additional minutes. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ridiculous.

Where did you read this?

[mraynrand]

When they say lighting doesn't strike the same place twice, do they mean the stadium or a particular seat?

They were referring to Cam Newton throwing an accurate pass.

[MadScientist]

Right, rare occasions and preseason games. Now, there's policy if there's lightning within a certain distance of the stadium (I guess 8 miles) the game is automatically suspended for 30 minutes. And if there should happen to be lightning say six miles away at the 28 minute mark of the delay, then delay clock is reset for 30 additional minutes. Wash, rinse, repeat. Ridiculous.

CYA A delay is a lot easier to manage than the fallout if a fan or player gets struck. These delays are pretty standard for all sports at lower levels.

[esoxx]

Where did you read this?

I thought this was common knowledge.

If the policy is you have to leave field for 30 minutes if there's a lightning strike within 8 miles of stadium, then why wouldn't you have to reset additional 30 minutes if there was an additional lightning strike within that same vicinity?

I just can't wait for the day we get screwed over b/c we lost momentum due to long delay or say the game was deemed to have been played long enough for an official result, with the Packers losing 17-16 early in the 4th quarter. That day is coming.

You have been warned.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I thought this was common knowledge.

If the policy is you have to leave field for 30 minutes if there's a lightning strike within 8 miles of stadium, then why wouldn't you have to reset additional 30 minutes if there was an additional lightning strike within that same vicinity?

I just can't wait for the day we get screwed over b/c we lost momentum due to long delay or say the game was deemed to have been played long enough for an official result, with the Packers losing 17-16 early in the 4th quarter. That day is coming.

You have been warned.

I know about the 8 mile radius rule but I'm pretty sure the minimum is only 10 minutes. When the strike happens, the weather terrorists let the NFL know roughly how long they anticipate the lightning continuing in the area. That's what the delay is based on. I know that high school sports and the NCAA use the 30 minute rule.

[RashanGary]

Lotta people lost money last night. Carolina was the hot bet. I don’t like to bet this early in the season.

[RashanGary]

Browns uniforms hideous. They deserve to lose.

Vrabel’s mustache is on point. He deserves to win.

[RashanGary]

Watching the browns game... their offense is way better than they played. Their defense is exactly what you’d expect from a Morgan Burnett/Damarius Randall safety tandem. They aren’t very good.

I could see the Browns winning 7, 8, 9, maybe even 10 games if they’re lucky. I do NOT see a title contender. They’re way better than that score though. And the Titans are decent. Mariotta is underrated and their STs are really good. Obviously Henry is good.

Browns had a million penalties and shot themselves in the foot. I do expect a bounce back.

[mraynrand]

Titans were pissed about all the off season press the Browns got. Coach got em fired up. Cleveland was not ready

[yetisnowman]

^^^^ Yup Delanie Walker did the Denny Green "They are who we thought they were" bit in the postgame. Cold blooded.

[pbmax]

They were referring to Cam Newton throwing an accurate pass.

He's reached the McNair limit. And that isn't a race based comparison. He might be literally too beat up to function anymore. My fear is Rodgers is in the same boat.

[pbmax]

I thought this was common knowledge.

If the policy is you have to leave field for 30 minutes if there's a lightning strike within 8 miles of stadium, then why wouldn't you have to reset additional 30 minutes if there was an additional lightning strike within that same vicinity?

I just can't wait for the day we get screwed over b/c we lost momentum due to long delay or say the game was deemed to have been played long enough for an official result, with the Packers losing 17-16 early in the 4th quarter. That day is coming.

You have been warned.

I might be angry for a bit, but I'll take fewer injuries as a win.

Speaking of which, has anyone every been struck by lightning at a game?

[pbmax]

Lotta people lost money last night. Carolina was the hot bet. I don’t like to bet this early in the season.

I lost them in both Pick'em Pools.

[mraynrand]

He's reached the McNair limit. And that isn't a race based comparison. He might be literally too beat up to function anymore. My fear is Rodgers is in the same boat.

His body language on the field is awful. I think he’s so untouchable that there’s no one to tell him to buck up. He is legitimately hurt and hurting but he’s clearly also playing the ‘poor me’ deal for all it’s worth so that it’s actually impossible to tell what dysfunction is due to physical problems and what is due to mental issues. But I think both are in play.

Rodgers’ mental issues probably involve some element of “If I don’t perform up to snuff what are they gonna go, put Boyle in there? lol”

[pbmax]

His body language on the field is awful. I think he’s so untouchable that there’s no one to tell him to buck up. He is legitimately hurt and hurting but he’s clearly also playing the ‘poor me’ deal for all it’s worth so that it’s actually impossible to tell what dysfunction is due to physical problems and what is due to mental issues. But I think both are in play.

Rodgers’ mental issues probably involve some element of “If I don’t perform up to snuff what are they gonna go, put Boyle in there? lol”

Perhaps. He's always looked like whatever emotion he is currently having plastered in large letters on his forehead.

But he is also literally at twice the hits that any other quarterback has taken on runs (Young, Vick, Cunningham, couple of others) so I buy he is feeling the effects. He also came back quickly from a foot problem in camp and that isn't helping.

Cam also gets fewer calls than Rodgers with pressure, Vita Vea hit him in the head and no flag. Cam might be the last player to help keep the flag in the pockets of the rest.

[RashanGary]

Watched the Jags chiefs. Gardner Minshew is a damn natural! He’s Matt Flynn with a bigger arm and better movement. The knock on him is his average arm strength, but at least it’s average compared to Flynn’s below average arm. Dude is savvy af though. I expect him to be a winning NFL QB. He has the stuff. Accurate, calm, competitive, smart. The hype looks real to me.

[mraynrand]

Saw Lovie Smith giving a press conference for IL. What’s with the ‘Song of the South’ look? Zip a dee do da, zippity yay....

[Joemailman]

Steelers fall to 0-2. Big Ben and Conner hurt. This may be the end of the line for Mike Tomlin.

[channtheman]

Refs just blew it in the Saints game. Blew the play dead saying it was forward pass from Goff, when it looks like it was actually a fumble. Saints returned the fumbler for a TD, but since the ref blew the play dead it doesn't count.

[yetisnowman]

Refs completely screw the Saints again. Goff fumbled and Jordan returns it for a TD. They blew the play dead and called it incomplete. Was reviewed and overturned giving the Saints the ball at their own 12 yd line and taking away the TD.

[yetisnowman]

Oops sorry. Beat me to it.

[Rastak]

Refs completely screw the Saints again. Goff fumbled and Jordan returns it for a TD. They blew the play dead and called it incomplete. Was reviewed and overturned giving the Saints the ball at their own 12 yd line and taking away the TD.

Good, I hate those assholes....

[Joemailman]

Bears lead Broncos 6-3 at halftime. Like Packers, Bears have gone up against 2 very good defenses. But that's a long time to go without scoring a TD. Bears offense in trouble? Or just a slow start?

[Rastak]

Bears lead Broncos 6-3 at halftime. Like Packers, Bears have gone up against 2 very good defenses. But that's a long time to go without scoring a TD. Bears offense in trouble? Or just a slow start?


Just turned it on, should be interesting.

[pbmax]

Refs completely screw the Saints again. Goff fumbled and Jordan returns it for a TD. They blew the play dead and called it incomplete. Was reviewed and overturned giving the Saints the ball at their own 12 yd line and taking away the TD.

I look forward to this rule changing.

:roll:

[mraynrand]

Refs completely screw the Saints again. Goff fumbled and Jordan returns it for a TD. They blew the play dead and called it incomplete. Was reviewed and overturned giving the Saints the ball at their own 12 yd line and taking away the TD.

LET. THE. PLAY. RUN.

F-in refs

[pbmax]

LET. THE. PLAY. RUN.

F-in refs

Bears just lost a pic six by Fuller because the numbnuts line judge though he knee was down, but the field level end zone camera showed it wasn't really close to down. Ref blew it dead.

[Rastak]

Da Bears.....fucked it up.

[pittstang5]

Nevermind

[Rastak]

Shit call....

[Rastak]

Looks like the Bears are fucking it up big time.

[MadScientist]

The calls against Clay last year look justified compared to the one against the Broncos.

And the Bears were given a second to win it.

[Rastak]

Rams whipping the A'ints ass.

[pittstang5]

Ugh...I don't want an 0-2 Denver team coming to Lambeau next week.

[texaspackerbacker]

Wow. I hate to see the Bears win - they still suck regardless, but I said Trubisky was decent.

[pbmax]

Ugh...I don't want an 0-2 Denver team coming to Lambeau next week.

On the other hand, Flacco looks Cutler-esque.

[pbmax]

Looking forward to this update Shadow.


The Bears are on track to score a total of 48 points this year.

[pbmax]

FOX Sports: NFL @NFLonFOX
"The Saints are on the short end of another call yet again... How many times can this happen to the
@Saints. Unbelievable." - Joe @Buck


Its happened twice Joe. Its very believable. This one happened before the half, so it didn't end a tie 3-3 game.

[pbmax]

Scott Kacsmar @ScottKacsmar
#NFL Worst point differential thru 2 games since 1940

1961 Raiders minus-99
1973 Saints minus-92
2019 Dolphins minus-92

[Rastak]

Scott Kacsmar @ScottKacsmar
#NFL Worst point differential thru 2 games since 1940

1961 Raiders minus-99
1973 Saints minus-92
2019 Dolphins minus-92


Wow, interesting for sure.

[pbmax]

Wow, interesting for sure.

It would serve them right to tank like this and still lose the top pick to the Giants.

[mraynrand]

It would serve them right to tank like this and still lose the top pick to the Giants.

lol

[pbmax]

Dan Pizzuta @DanPizzuta
Mitchell Trubisky didn't complete a pass further than 10 yards past the line of scrimmage until the final throw to Allen Robinson

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEi4-1QX4AIcKlA?format=jpg&name=small

[mraynrand]

Jaguars won

[Joemailman]

It would serve them right to tank like this and still lose the top pick to the Giants.

I remember Suck For Luck. Is there a college player of that stature this year?