Th official Packers Chargers Gameday thread!

[RashanGary]

Pettine needs the bye week to figure out his broken defense

I’m surprised this is your biggest concern after a sub 100 yard, 3 point offensive performance. Upon further consideration, are you sure this is still your biggest gripe?

[RashanGary]

The commercials, the whisky, the NBA party lifestyle, Danica..... the charm goes swag when you lose this bad guys

[Freak Out]

Damn...get a life RG.

[ThunderDan]

Tramon yelling at someone on the sideline.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I’m surprised this is your biggest concern after a sub 100 yard, 3 point offensive performance. Upon further consideration, are you sure this is still your biggest gripe?

It's been the biggest issue the last 5 games.

[RashanGary]

Romo looked handsome in that white shirt

[Joemailman]

Sure. ARod and offense were bad. But chargers have scored on almost every possession, no turnovers, minimal pressure on rivers, etc.

For a good part of this game, the defense was doing what they've been doing. Giving up yards, but not TD's. The ineptitude of the offense forced the defense to be out there too much. Defense wasn't good, but for a while they gave the offense time to get back in the game. Offense never showed up.

[beveaux1]

Pettine needs the bye week to figure out his broken defense

Tremendous scheming by the offense the past 3 or 4 games has masked defensive problems and no adjustments
have been made by Pettine.

I thought at the beginning of the season that spending big bucks on defensive free agents would move our defense
at least to the middle of the pack. That hasn't happened. Better in the red zone. Otherwise very little difference.

[Teamcheez1]

I’m surprised this is your biggest concern after a sub 100 yard, 3 point offensive performance. Upon further consideration, are you sure this is still your biggest gripe?

Do you think LaFleur will work twice as hard to fix issues, change game plans, and switch up personnel to right the ship?

Do you think Pettine's defense will look exactly the same versus Carolina next week?

[yetisnowman]

Stat padding time!

[ThunderDan]

Chargers playing prevent D. O finally moving the ball.

[Gotarace]

Sweet Hands Lazzaed

[mraynrand]

Play the fucking backup QB

[ThunderDan]

Williams still playing hard.

[Harlan Huckleby]

we need moral victory td

[Teamcheez1]

Yawn. Means nothing.

[ThunderDan]

Go for 2.

[Rastak]

Thunder missed a holding call.

[RashanGary]

Go for 2, fuck it

[pittstang5]

Too late. 6 and change left. Defense has to show up..ha ha ha ..not happening

[pittstang5]

Means nothing...down 15....shitshow

[yetisnowman]

We're down by 23 with 7 mins left and snapping the ball with one second on the play clock. Completely insane.

[RashanGary]

Onside kicks are like 5% success rate this year. But maybe.... better than our odds of stopping Rivers

[mraynrand]

Did the chargers sign Bostick this week.

[Fosco33]

Onside kicks are like 5% success rate this year. But maybe.... better than our odds of stopping Rivers

They should give offense a 4th and 15 from their 40 instead of a balanced onside kick

[Joemailman]

It's not over.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7vtWB4owdE

[Rastak]

They should give offense a 4th and 15 from their 40 instead of a balanced onside kick


They may make a change like that soon.

[RashanGary]

Chargers are dialed in. They want this bad.

[mraynrand]

They should give offense a 4th and 15 from their 40 instead of a balanced onside kick

Bears would opt for the onside kick.

[ThunderDan]

Not sure why you have GB rekick it.

[mraynrand]

Chargers are dialed in. They want this bad.

It’s not who you play but when you play ‘em

[Teamcheez1]

You know they're going to run it and you still give up 8 yards.

[ThunderDan]

Seriously, we have that run stopped for 0 and he gets 7.

[Joemailman]

NFCN could be 0-4 today.

[RashanGary]

Just get it over with.

[ThunderDan]

NFCN could be 0-4 today.

Will go.

[RashanGary]

Gotta feel for the west coast packer fans. This is their one game

[mraynrand]

KO strategy makes zero sense.

[ThunderDan]

Gotta feel for the west coast packer fans. This is their one game

How about SF in 3 weeks?

[RashanGary]

Rivers gonna throw it here and ice the game

[mraynrand]

Trubisky played better than Rodgers today.

[ThunderDan]

Rivers gonna throw it here and ice the game

No he isn’t, this is a run all the way and we can’t stop it.

[beveaux1]

I like the Smiths, but Bosa and Ingram are another level. The Smiths are very good and Bosa and Ingram are difference makers.

[RashanGary]

Put in the backups

[Teamcheez1]

I like the Smiths, but Bosa and Ingram are another level. The Smiths are very good and Bosa and Ingram are difference makers.

It would also help if we had a single competent MLB.

[RashanGary]

This has to be the worst offensive performance since 1992

[mraynrand]

I like the Smiths, but Bosa and Ingram are another level. The Smiths are very good and Bosa and Ingram are difference makers.

They sold out against the pass. From the first play. Packers needed to adjust right away and didn’t. In addition the Packers didn’t match intensity at all.

[Bossman641]

Can't stop run and give up big plays. Good combo

[ThunderDan]

This has to be the worst offensive performance since 1992

Nope, 2006 NE Packers 35-0 beat down at Lambeau.

[RashanGary]

159 total yards on offense

[Fosco33]

Today felt like all of last year.

[mraynrand]

It would also help if we had a single competent MLB.

Yeah it would be nice to be better there. But the defense isn’t responsible for this loss.

[RashanGary]

Nope, 2006 NE Packers 35-0 beat down at Lambeau.

Where do you find these stats?? Did they have less than 159 yards?

[beveaux1]

It would also help if we had a single competent MLB.

Every team has weaknesses. What changes your team from run of the mill to good are the difference makers.
I don't think we have any on defense yet. Alexander and Savage, maybe later.

[RashanGary]

MVS bomb, onside kick. Adams bomb

[mraynrand]

The absolute whiffs on offensive pass pro were decisive.

[ThunderDan]

Where do you find these stats?? Did they have less than 159 yards?

I was at the fucking game. Favre got knocked out and ARod broke his foot.

[RashanGary]

Get 10 yards, then Hail Mary

[Teamcheez1]

Yeah it would be nice to be better there. But the defense isn’t responsible for this loss.

No, the defense isn't responsible for the loss.

However, I don't feel the defense can win a game for us either. We are back to AR putting on his superman cape to win games.

[RashanGary]

I was at the fucking game. Favre got knocked out and ARod broke his foot.

Oh no!! I’m sorry!!!

[RashanGary]

The absolute whiffs on offensive pass pro were decisive.

Yep. Penalties and wiffs early set the table.

And I know this sounds crazy, but this is the kind of loss a young team needs to dial in down the stretch. I’m not happy. I’m not. But Lafleur can turn this into a long term win if the guys dial in and go hard

[red]

I was at the fucking game. Favre got knocked out and ARod broke his foot.

Didn’t he break his foot like his first or second play?

Great start to the career

[Bossman641]

Rivers gonna throw it here and ice the game


Nope, 2006 NE Packers 35-0 beat down at Lambeau.

I don't remember the year but wasn't there like a 50-3 loss to Ravens around that same time?

[RashanGary]

We need Hail Mary now

[pittstang5]

Did the Chargers punt at all today? I don't think they did.

[RashanGary]

A better ball has a chance there

[ThunderDan]

Didn’t he break his foot like his first or second play?

Great start to the career

Nope he broke it in the 3rd or 4th quarter and finished the game out playing on it.

[RashanGary]

Hail Mary for fucks sake

[Bossman641]

MVS sucks

[ThunderDan]

Did the Chargers punt at all today? I don't think they did.


We had one 3 and out.

[Joemailman]

I don't remember the year but wasn't there like a 50-3 loss to Ravens around that same time?

2005. Sherman's last year. Score was 48-3.

[pittstang5]

Thank god this shit show is over.

[Teamcheez1]

Finally this crap game will end.

[Teamcheez1]

2005. Sherman's last year. Score was 48-3.

I think Sherman or MM came up with the game plan today.

[beveaux1]

Chargers defended Jones with DBs instead of LBs. That might be the key to neutralizing the RB.

[Zool]

Good game team. Really showed out against a 3-5 team.

[Teamcheez1]

Bobblehead is ultimately responsible for the loss.

[pittstang5]

Coaching staff better bust some heads this week. Unacceptable to lose that bad

[RashanGary]

I know I melted down for 3 quarters, but that’s not as bad as it looked.

First of all, Chargers getting healthy. I knew this was coming soon for them.
Second, penalties early put us in bad situations
Third, Chargers will be a top 10 offense the rest of the way so it’s not as bad as that looked
Forth, the young team needed this lesson. On the road vs afc team is the place to learn it
Fifth, everyone is healthy
Sixth, they had a weird week with Monday off for the first time all year to give the guys a mental break and physical one. They had a big Halloween celebration. Then they traveled west coast. They did need a break to get recharged even though it cost us a win

I do think this will prove to be a good loss. They’re gonna bounce back.

[Freak Out]

Bobblehead is ultimately responsible for the loss.

Agreed.

[red]

Nope he broke it in the 3rd or 4th quarter and finished the game out playing on it.

wow, my memory really sucks

for all i know, i was at that game too

[RashanGary]

Bobblehead is ultimately responsible for the loss.

Bobble never wanted the job. He thought it was gonna be short lived, but he’s a reliable dude. He got up and made sure he was there for us.

But yes, this is his fault.

[Joemailman]

Thank god this shit show is over.

You're welcome pittstang5.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a9/e1/35/a9e135a660f6cca1bc6bf9dff7d06ad3.jpg

[RashanGary]

This is the kind of loss that will set me up with a good Packer bet soon too!

[mraynrand]

No, the defense isn't responsible for the loss.

However, I don't feel the defense can win a game for us either. We are back to AR putting on his superman cape to win games.

Even a decent showing by the offense would probably have kept SD at 20 points. Packs have a good defense but not a shut down defense. Still, I don’t know many Ds that can win a game like this with this kind of offensive ineptitude.

[red]

Coaching staff better bust some heads this week. Unacceptable to lose that bad

i seriously doubt they will

i stopped paying attention at halftime when coach mommy came out and said the reason the players are playing like shit is all because the plane got in too late and everyone is tired and fussy

that shit really rubbed me the wrong way. i mean, what fucking coach says that? " awwww, you guys are tired? thats ok, you missed your naps"

[Joemailman]

Packers season so far:

3 wins

Loss

4 wins

Loss

Who's ready to start a bunch of gameday threads?

[RashanGary]

Even a decent showing by the offense would probably have kept SD at 20 points. Packs have a good defense but not a shut down defense. Still, I don’t know many Ds that can win a game like this with this kind of offensive ineptitude.

Right. And the Chargers offense was about to break out. They were missing multiple OL, Gordon and Henry. Plus Ingram and a bunch of DL and secondary on defense.

The Chargers are getting more guys back soon. They gonna wreck some teams dreams. I knew this was coming for them

[esoxx]

Brutal

Rodgers looked really bad and all phases of the team were poor.

[RashanGary]

Packers season so far:

3 wins

Loss

4 wins

Loss

Who's ready to start a bunch of gameday threads?

I have a feeling it’s gonna be a really good run. If we beat SF, it could go all the way

[mraynrand]

Packers will still play a lot of good ball this year. But this is the kind of game that tells you they are not good enough to win a championship.

[red]

Brutal

Rodgers looked really bad and all phases of the team were poor.

he was back to throwing insanely long balls on 3rd and manageable

the o-line is a mess, they need to get the fucking blocking figured out asap, its been a damn joke

[esoxx]

i seriously doubt they will

i stopped paying attention at halftime when coach mommy came out and said the reason the players are playing like shit is all because the plane got in too late and everyone is tired and fussy

that shit really rubbed me the wrong way. i mean, what fucking coach says that? " awwww, you guys are tired? thats ok, you missed your naps"

Missed the interview. He really said shit like that? I thought they flew in on Friday?

That also rubs me the wrong way if he's saying shit like that.

[Joemailman]

Good news LaFleur isn't making any excuses now.

[red]

Missed the interview. He really said shit like that? I thought they flew in on Friday?

That also rubs me the wrong way if he's saying shit like that.

like i just got done saying, my memory sucks

but he mentioned the players were tired because the plane got in late, he would do things different in hindsight as far as travel, and that the players haven't woken up yet

i added the part about them not getting their naps and sippy cups

i also might have just added the part about the sippy cups

[beveaux1]

All week the "experts" have been saying that GB was not as good as other top teams because of their defense.
Defense didn't lose this game, but it didn't win it, either. When we don't get a turnover, our defense looks
pretty pathetic.

Our offense has been winning by concentrating on one matchup we can win. Jones and Williams as receivers against
LBs, our RBs having a big day against a 6 man box, or Adams matching up against a beat up secondary. Our OL played poorly today
but we didn't have a match up we could win. With Adams limited, they took away our RBs and we don't have anybody else to win a matchup with.

Bad game or a harbinger for the rest of the season? I haven't changed my opinion. This team has the talent of a 9-7 team. The offensive
planning has been great. We've been lucky with our lack of injuries and scheduled teams being pretty beat up. We've won games that we
probably shouldn't have won. I figured 5-4 and we're actually 7-2.

I am concerned that our defense has regressed, but we have a good chance to win 10 or 11 if we stay healthy. After all, we have Washington and the NYG
on the schedule. I think we've got a good chance at the playoffs, but a very small chance at the big prize.

[esoxx]

All week the "experts" have been saying that GB was not as good as other top teams because of their defense.
Defense didn't lose this game, but it didn't win it, either. When we don't get a turnover, our defense looks
pretty pathetic.

Our offense has been winning by concentrating on one matchup we can win. Jones and Williams as receivers against
LBs, our RBs having a big day against a 6 man box, or Adams matching up against a beat up secondary. Our OL played poorly today
but we didn't have a match up we could win. With Adams limited, they took away our RBs and we don't have anybody else to win a matchup with.

Bad game or a harbinger for the rest of the season? I haven't changed my opinion. This team has the talent of a 9-7 team. The offensive
planning has been great. We've been lucky with our lack of injuries and scheduled teams being pretty beat up. We've won games that we
probably shouldn't have won. I figured 5-4 and we're actually 7-2.

I am concerned that our defense has regressed, but we have a good chance to win 10 or 11 if we stay healthy. After all, we have Washington and the NYG
on the schedule. I think we've got a good chance at the playoffs, but a very small chance at the big prize.

My main issue with the defense is they could not stop the run even when down and distance and game situation said they were running and yet you could not stop it. When that happens, yeah your ass got kicked.

They got whipped today.

[red]

All week the "experts" have been saying that GB was not as good as other top teams because of their defense.
Defense didn't lose this game, but it didn't win it, either. When we don't get a turnover, our defense looks
pretty pathetic.

Our offense has been winning by concentrating on one matchup we can win. Jones and Williams as receivers against
LBs, our RBs having a big day against a 6 man box, or Adams matching up against a beat up secondary. Our OL played poorly today
but we didn't have a match up we could win. With Adams limited, they took away our RBs and we don't have anybody else to win a matchup with.

Bad game or a harbinger for the rest of the season? I haven't changed my opinion. This team has the talent of a 9-7 team. The offensive
planning has been great. We've been lucky with our lack of injuries and scheduled teams being pretty beat up. We've won games that we
probably shouldn't have won. I figured 5-4 and we're actually 7-2.

I am concerned that our defense has regressed, but we have a good chance to win 10 or 11 if we stay healthy. After all, we have Washington and the NYG
on the schedule. I think we've got a good chance at the playoffs, but a very small chance at the big prize.

i'd say other then the last 2 weeks, a-rod and the offense haven't exactly looked great either

a-rod has had 7-eh games (by his standards), 1 epic game, and one good game

i kept laughing every time i heard romo say "its never over with that guy on the other side of the ball". yeah, other then a handful of games, that "guy" dies a few seasons ago and was replaced by an average joe

[red]

My main issue with the defense is they could not stop the run even when down and distance and game situation said they were running and yet you could not stop it. When that happens, yeah your ass got kicked.

They got whipped today.

the sad part is, we are full strength, theres no savior coming back to improve them

[pbmax]

the sad part is, we are full strength, theres no savior coming back to improve them

Not excited by Ibraheim Campbell?

[pbmax]

Back to arguing with Harv.

At the snap, Packers slant to their right. Puts Clark in the Defense's right A gap, Martinez has left A gap and Dr. Smith has the left B gap.


https://i.ibb.co/GC2CHk3/3rd-And2-B.jpg




Image service shrunk this down. But from L to R its Fackrell, Gary, Clark, Martinez(LB), Z Smith and P Smith.

Ekeler will go through Martinez and ZaSmiths gaps then cut back toward Clark after he hits the whole.

https://i.ibb.co/Mp3Ty5H/3rd-And2-a.jpg

[pbmax]

Originally, this is where I thought Dr. Zaius lost. He is engulfed with no free arm or angle to his B gap (to his right, offenses left). Martinez is reading but not crashing which will soon be a problem. Clark definitely does take a hard charging slant to his right. Harv is not entirely wrong, this looks weird. But maybe they were running a stunt?

Gary (offenses left) gets penetration but he is walled off of the backside of the play. Seeing how the OG plays him, he should fight back across that guy or chase down the line. Rivers isn't going to boot to the QB left successfully.

[pbmax]

Here is where I missed the play. Dr. Zaius has freed his right side to play his B gap. Martinez is stuck in no man's land. He has not defeated the block not gotten inside it. He is so deep, he is essentially giving the RB a two way go.

Clark is too wide and isn't helping Martinez here at all squeezing either A gap. But he is in his gap even if its not ideal.


https://i.ibb.co/4KN4swv/3rd-And2-C.jpg




Back to arguing with Harv.

At the snap, Packers slant to their right. Puts Clark in the Defense's right A gap, Martinez has left A gap and Dr. Smith has the left B gap.


https://i.ibb.co/GC2CHk3/3rd-And2-B.jpg

[pbmax]

Its not the worst run D they have played. Its a good setup versus a short run. But with Martinez off the LOS and Clark wide, the RB cuts off of Dr. Zaius (looks like the target hole) and cuts across Blake for an easy conversion.


https://i.ibb.co/kKNRMfq/3rd-And2-D.jpg




Here is where I missed the play. Dr. Zaius has freed his right side to play his B gap. Martinez is stuck in no man's land. He has not defeated the block not gotten inside it. He is so deep, he is essentially giving the RB a two way go.

Clark is too wide and isn't helping Martinez here at all squeezing either A gap. But he is in his gap even if its not ideal.


https://i.ibb.co/4KN4swv/3rd-And2-C.jpg

[pbmax]

This is another example where penetration by half the line hurts rather than helps the run D.

[Zool]

6th game this year that both lines got out played.

[texaspackerbacker]

Packers will still play a lot of good ball this year. But this is the kind of game that tells you they are not good enough to win a championship.

Sheeeeeeeesh! Would you say the same about the Patriots based on how they played today? The Vikings? Seattle played like crap and barely survived - how about them?

Is there ANYBODY who is "good enough to win a championship"?

[texaspackerbacker]

6th game this year that both lines got out played.

It ain't often I agree with you, but you really nailed this one.

[mraynrand]

Sheeeeeeeesh! Would you say the same about the Patriots based on how they played today? The Vikings? Seattle played like crap and barely survived - how about them?

Is there ANYBODY who is "good enough to win a championship"?

Thanks for listening

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I hope someone other than ThunderDan starts the GameDay thread next week. Otherwise, Imma have to boycott the GD thread. Maybe one of my pals will start thread at 3 AM Sunday morning while ThunderDan is still in bed. Yo, Nutz, Harlan, Harrell and Pugger!

[mraynrand]

I hope someone other than ThunderDan starts the GameDay thread next week. Otherwise, Imma have to boycott the GD thread. Maybe one of my pals will start thread at 3 AM Sunday morning while ThunderDan is still in bed. Yo, Nutz, Harlan, Harrell and Pugger!

Pugger hasn’t posted since January. She is posting on another forum.

[pbmax]

Pugger hasn’t posted since January. She is posting on another forum.

We piss off someone else?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Pugger hasn’t posted since January. She is posting on another forum.

My pal Nutz ain’t posted since the Packers took the Fucking Center over Metcalf. Ain’t make Nutz any less my pal.

Good to see Pugger is doing well. Ain’t gonna waste time and creativity at any other site, so I ain’t sure what up with her.

I use the word ain’t too much, and I ain’t even a southerner.

[run pMc]

Sheeeeeeeesh! Would you say the same about the Patriots based on how they played today? The Vikings? Seattle played like crap and barely survived - how about them?

Is there ANYBODY who is "good enough to win a championship"?

I think it was upset Sunday. Even Miami won. At a minimum, it wasn't the NFCN's day.

[Teamcheez1]

6th game this year that both lines got out played.

They wouldn't be 7-2 if both lines had been outplayed 6 times already.

[pbmax]

Sure, upset Sunday except the Colts couldn't manage to beat the Steelers because of an injured QB and sub-prime kicker Vinatieri.

Not bitter at all. Loved the KC game though.

[KYPack]

My pal Nutz ain’t posted since the Packers took the Fucking Center over Metcalf. Ain’t make Nutz any less my pal.

Good to see Pugger is doing well. Ain’t gonna waste time and creativity at any other site, so I ain’t sure what up with her.

I use the word ain’t too much, and I ain’t even a southerner.

She thinks you are a crazy goof and has said so in this forum, for one thing.

[Zool]

They wouldn't be 7-2 if both lines had been outplayed 6 times already.

Unless you have a HOF QB.

[mraynrand]

Sure, upset Sunday except the Colts couldn't manage to beat the Steelers because of an injured QB and sub-prime kicker Vinatieri.

Not bitter at all. Loved the KC game though.

Colts had to put the ancient Steny Hoyer in there. Ugly.

[hoosier]

Colts had to put the ancient Steny Hoyer in there. Ugly.

He actually looked pretty good. Remember him with the Bears a couple of years ago? He was on fire, at least according to the standard set by Bears QBs, until Peppers broke his arm. I think he might actually be one of those Frank Reich, Don Strock type guys who just last forever and are good for a couple of stellar relief appearances after age 40.