View Full Version : J.K. Scott - What has happened to his performance?
Patler
11-25-2019, 08:01 AM
Is he injured? His punting fell off a cliff a month ago.
Game by game gross punting average:
47.6
47.6
53.0
51.5
49.5
51.7
55.3
35.3
37.6
35.3
37.2
He has lost 15 yards on his kicks. He was consistently around 50 yards in his first seven games, consistently around 36 in his last four, and it hasn't been one bad kick ruining the game average. It's consistent, kick to kick.
Bad punts with an ineffective offense consistently gave SF scoring opportunities in the first half even though the SF offense was not really hitting on all cylinders Huge reason for the first half scoring.
call_me_ishmael
11-25-2019, 08:06 AM
Good post. That's super interesting. No idea what happened but seems very unusual.
Joemailman
11-25-2019, 08:09 AM
It's a mystery. It's one thing to average 35 in snow at Lambeau. But 60 degree weather in San Francisco is another matter.
Gotarace
11-25-2019, 10:11 AM
It sure looks like he lost his follow through on his punting...earlier it appeared that he would finish his kicks with his kicking leg far above his head...now it barely reaches his chin...like pooch kicking it...
It's a mystery. It's one thing to average 35 in snow at Lambeau. But 60 degree weather in San Francisco is another matter.
Yeah, I almost said it’s getting colder, but at least 2 of those 4 games were in perfect Cali weather
So that’s not it
It seems to be part of a bigger story. He’s not the only one that has regressed barley this year
Kenny Clark and lowery have really been non factors this year
Alexander has maybe gotten worse, definitely hasn’t gotten better
King looks like a complete train wreck this year
Lindsey and back both have taken a big step backwards
And then there’s the massive decline of rodgers
And graham is somehow even more worthless then he was last year
For some reason a large chunk of this team has regressed since last season, which wasn’t exactly a good year
And yet somehow we’re 9-2
beveaux1
11-25-2019, 02:15 PM
Yeah, I almost said it’s getting colder, but at least 2 of those 4 games were in perfect Cali weather
So that’s not it
It seems to be part of a bigger story. He’s not the only one that has regressed barley this year
Kenny Clark and lowery have really been non factors this year
Alexander has maybe gotten worse, definitely hasn’t gotten better
King looks like a complete train wreck this year
Lindsey and back both have taken a big step backwards
And then there’s the massive decline of rodgers
And graham is somehow even more worthless then he was last year
For some reason a large chunk of this team has regressed since last season, which wasn’t exactly a good year
And yet somehow we’re 9-2
8-3 and Scantling has regressed, also. Have I missed anyone else?
Willard
11-25-2019, 04:03 PM
8-3 and Scantling has regressed, also. Have I missed anyone else?
Bahktiari
KYPack
11-26-2019, 09:42 PM
Bahktiari
Red said "back", that's Red-ese for Bahktiari.
Back (ha) to the punter. Kickers and punters are like golfers. A slight loss of confidence can throw their performance into a total funk. I agree he looks like his follow thru has reduced sine he's gotten into this slump. If he's in a 15 yard funk in good conditions, whats the kid gonna do when the mercury drops and that icy wind comes off the Bay?
He's got to study tape and get himself BACK on track.
Coaches need to get him some confidence pills.
i typed bahk, apple must have auto corrected it like it always does
pbmax
11-26-2019, 10:15 PM
If lack of follow through, perhaps injury?
KYPack
11-26-2019, 10:19 PM
i typed bahk, apple must have auto corrected it like it always does
Just giving you a little jolt Red one.
We need to get this place going.
& auto correct sucks.
Patler
11-26-2019, 11:35 PM
In what game was it that he had a punt partially blocked? Is that when his "slump" started? Did they get his leg at all (injury?), or just the ball? Has he lost confidence/comfort because of that?
pbmax
11-27-2019, 09:49 AM
It was the Chargers: https://www.chargers.com/video/drue-tranquill-flies-in-to-block-j-k-scott-s-punt
But it wasn't much of a hit.
Fritz
11-27-2019, 09:58 AM
In what game was it that he had a punt partially blocked? Is that when his "slump" started? Did they get his leg at all (injury?), or just the ball? Has he lost confidence/comfort because of that?
Punters seem to take time to develop. I thought the Pack ditched a perfectly good punter for Scott, so they'd better ride this out and not panic. He is in a slump, for sure.
This all points up how all three units are dependent on one another. The Packers' slide in play is connected in part to the poorer field position the punting unit gives, as well as the abysmal return game. Let me say it again: abysmal.
Even if we started every drive at the opponents 20, we would still have a lot of trouble scoring
texaspackerbacker
11-27-2019, 12:30 PM
Even if we started every drive at the opponents 20, we would still have a lot of trouble scoring
Yeah, because our O Line couldn't block worth shit.
SudsMcBucky
11-27-2019, 03:22 PM
It was pretty interest in an interview with Mason Crosby yesterday. They asked him about Scott and he was pretty coy in his answer. There is definitely something either injury or mechanical that they are aware of that they're not saying.
Fritz
11-27-2019, 04:02 PM
Coy? Sounds like maybe Crosby thinks Scott's penis is getting tangled up with his kicking leg.
Better "straighten that out" right away...
Ah, I'm just messing with you, Suds. Good take there.
Patler
11-28-2019, 02:09 AM
We have our answer - Scott said they tried to change his drop point four games ago, to increase hang time, and it screwed him up.
We have our answer - Scott said they tried to change his drop point four games ago, to increase hang time, and it screwed him up.
Jesus Christ
It wasn’t broke, why try and fix it?
Patler
11-28-2019, 10:33 AM
Jesus Christ
It wasn’t broke, why try and fix it?
Per the article, it was specifically due to their concern about KC's return game. They wanted no returns.
That sure backfired on them.
Per the article, it was specifically due to their concern about KC's return game. They wanted no returns.
That sure backfired on them.
St coach needs to be fired then imo
More proof he needs to be fired. For the Season, we have negative 14 yards total for punt returns
Patler
11-28-2019, 12:32 PM
St coach needs to be fired then imo
More proof he needs to be fired. For the Season, we have negative 14 yards total for punt returns
So far, he seems to be inadequate, to say the least.
pbmax
11-28-2019, 09:21 PM
We have our answer - Scott said they tried to change his drop point four games ago, to increase hang time, and it screwed him up.
I ...
You ...
Why ...
Ooohhhhh ....
pbmax
11-28-2019, 09:22 PM
Jesus Christ
It wasn’t broke, why try and fix it?
Do you wish to join Fritz and me on a Special Teams kidnapping spree?
pbmax
11-28-2019, 09:24 PM
Per the article, it was specifically due to their concern about KC's return game. They wanted no returns.
That sure backfired on them.
That is the worst reason I can imagine.
Bob McGinn might have gone overboard but he was right about one area. Not hiring a kicking specialist coach was a disaster for this team several times over.
Sparkey
12-01-2019, 09:52 AM
That's just insane. Why fuck around with his timing mid season. That's like someone trying to change their golf swing to get 5 more yards and all you do is end up pulling half your shots.
The coach who suggested that obviously has no clue how simple it is to screw up your timing.
See, thing is, sounds simple. Let the ball drop an extra half second before kicking it. Problem is, he has kicked a certain way for years. So even though he lets it drop a fraction longer, subconsciously your body is still trying to keep on time with your old kicking routine so you end up rushing your leg.
Fritz
12-01-2019, 11:04 AM
That's just insane. Why fuck around with his timing mid season. That's like someone trying to change their golf swing to get 5 more yards and all you do is end up pulling half your shots.
The coach who suggested that obviously has no clue how simple it is to screw up your timing.
See, thing is, sounds simple. Let the ball drop an extra half second before kicking it. Problem is, he has kicked a certain way for years. So even though he lets it drop a fraction longer, subconsciously your body is still trying to keep on time with your old kicking routine so you end up rushing your leg.
Ah, now we know ol' Sparky was a punter back in the day.
Is this Jerrel Wilson? I hear he used to like to spark one up, once in a while.
Gotarace
12-01-2019, 11:32 AM
St coach needs to be fired then imo
More proof he needs to be fired. For the Season, we have negative 14 yards total for punt returns
Is this Some kind of unbreakable Record??? I Knew the Return team was Lacking but that is Ridiculous...Just Wow
Patler
12-01-2019, 11:36 AM
The coach who suggested that obviously has no clue how simple it is to screw up your timing.
It now seems unclear where this brilliant idea came from. One comment in an article referred to the coaches allowing Scott to "try (it)", so it may have originated from Scott himself. With young players especially, part of a coach's job is to provide guidance, even protect the player from himself.
Fosco33
12-01-2019, 12:01 PM
I have an idea. Let’s not have to punt as much...
Do you wish to join Fritz and me on a Special Teams kidnapping spree?
Sure
How many seasons ago was it when mason was having his problems and wanted to work with an outside kicking coach, and the team told him no?
New staff, same shit
Patler
12-01-2019, 05:15 PM
Very good day today for Scott.
Fritz
12-01-2019, 05:34 PM
We have our answer - Scott said they tried to change his drop point four games ago, to increase hang time, and it screwed him up.
Maybe he readjusted for the Gints game. He was bettrr today.
pbmax
12-01-2019, 05:47 PM
I'd say this is proof of coaching dysfunction, but Nick Saban's Alabama teams have missed more FGS than any other SEC squad during his stay.
So, everyone has a blind spot.
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