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09-11-2006, 12:38 PM
Anyone see this play? I am not completely sold on this cut blocking, but i wasnt aware that anyone got hurt on a cut block play. This situation doesnt have anything to do with the cut blocking scheme since it was a pass play.

Harris just comes off as a whinner with this statement.


Harris blames 'dirty' Packers for leg injury

September 11, 2006

BY BRAD BIGGS Staff Reporter




GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Charles Tillman's interception of Brett Favre in the fourth quarter came with a price to the Bears.

Defensive tackle Tommie Harris was limping in the locker room afterward with an undisclosed right leg injury, and he's blaming it on unethical play by Green Bay right tackle Mark Tauscher.

Harris was cut down from behind after the interception, which happened more than 20 yards downfield, and called Tauscher's hit unnecessary.

''You know it was cheap,'' Harris said. ''Everybody saw it was cheap. You saw that junk. That's the only way they can block me.''

Harris went to the Pro Bowl for the first time last season in his second year, and after the game, Favre paid him one of the top compliments a tackle can get.

''Tommie Harris is close to a Warren Sapp,'' Favre said.

Harris re-entered the game and is not believed to be injured seriously but will be re-evaluated today.

''I'm just hurt,'' he said. ''I'm not telling you what it is.''

The Packers have introduced more cut blocking into their scheme this season under new coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski, who was the offensive line coach last season in Atlanta and learned from the master of the cut block, Alex Gibbs. But this cut didn't happen on an offensive play; the ball was gone, and Harris and Tauscher were distant onlookers.

''It was during the interception,'' Harris said. ''I didn't even see it. I was down on the ground.

''What am I going to say to him? He looked at me like, 'Sorry.' And then I was like, 'Whatever, get out of my face.' Yeah, he's known for being dirty, and I'm fed up with it. I'm so tired every day of coming in here and getting cut, left and right. These guys are freaking dirty.''

Harris said the NFL turns a blind eye to cut blocking because it promotes offense.

''The league doesn't care,'' he said. ''Everything is predicated on the offense. Don't touch this dude late, don't go at his ankles. Do I have to get my knee torn before they make a high/low rule for Tommie Harris?

''Roy Williams pulled [Terrell Owens down] from behind; now he has a Roy Williams [horse collar] rule. Does it have to take someone to get injured in order to get a rule?''

MJZiggy
09-11-2006, 01:09 PM
I didn't see that play, but I did see the one where one of the Chicago o-line cut KGB as he was rushing. The announcer was kind enough to point it out to me as an example of what a cut block is.

Patler
09-11-2006, 01:10 PM
Did the Big Bad DT fall down and go BOOM? Does he have an owie?

Defensive linemen are hilarious. For years they were allowed to out and out beat on O-lineman. Remember White's "club move" when he fore-armed the tackle right in the earhole? Lineman say the pressure on their eardrums was painful, and that the club would often daze them. Why couldn't the O-line do the same?

D lineman revel in plastering a virtually stationary target (the QB) who is 2/3 their size. They gladly hit a RB at any angle, front back or side, and will grab an ankle and twist given the chance. But god-forbid they are blocked in their thighs!

A bunch of whiners!

K-town
09-11-2006, 01:11 PM
Patler, I couldn't agree more.

NewsBruin
09-11-2006, 01:40 PM
I disagree, in the sense that the D-lineman's job is to go after the backs. The o-lineman's job is to go after the D-linemen. And which ones are usually bigger?

Yeah, the headslap and club (I thought it was the biceps, not the forearm) were legal, but chip, cut, and wham blocking are legal, too.

But this article is not about legal techniques, as much as it's about when-no-one's-looking techniques. Tauch remembers what it was like to get blindsided on an interception return; it should especially be not cool to treat another competitor like that (unless he's #99 for the Raiders).

I know I come off as more of a basher than a fan, but I honestly want our players to play hard, legal, and honorably. There's no reason to take out a guy's leg when he's not part of the play on an interception return. This speaks to me of frustration among the line during the game.

ahaha
09-11-2006, 01:43 PM
I remember a number of times when the Packers brought the blitz and the running back for the Bears would just dive at the blitzer's knees. It's a legal block that every team uses to different degrees.

packers11
09-11-2006, 01:47 PM
I disagree, in the sense that the D-lineman's job is to go after the backs. The o-lineman's job is to go after the D-linemen. And which ones are usually bigger?

Yeah, the headslap and club (I thought it was the biceps, not the forearm) were legal, but chip, cut, and wham blocking are legal, too.

But this article is not about legal techniques, as much as it's about when-no-one's-looking techniques. Tauch remembers what it was like to get blindsided on an interception return; it should especially be not cool to treat another competitor like that (unless he's #99 for the Raiders).

I know I come off as more of a basher than a fan, but I honestly want our players to play hard, legal, and honorably. There's no reason to take out a guy's leg when he's not part of the play on an interception return. This speaks to me of frustration among the line during the game.

That was Clifton... Nice try though :mrgreen:

Tarlam!
09-11-2006, 01:54 PM
Quality post from Patler right there!

Patler
09-11-2006, 02:08 PM
I disagree, in the sense that the D-lineman's job is to go after the backs. The o-lineman's job is to go after the D-linemen. And which ones are usually bigger?

Yeah, the headslap and club (I thought it was the biceps, not the forearm) were legal, but chip, cut, and wham blocking are legal, too.

But this article is not about legal techniques, as much as it's about when-no-one's-looking techniques. Tauch remembers what it was like to get blindsided on an interception return; it should especially be not cool to treat another competitor like that (unless he's #99 for the Raiders).

I know I come off as more of a basher than a fan, but I honestly want our players to play hard, legal, and honorably. There's no reason to take out a guy's leg when he's not part of the play on an interception return. This speaks to me of frustration among the line during the game.

Difference in size between O-linemen and D-lineman --- minimal
Difference in size between D-line and QB or RB ----- huge.

I think the block Harris is complaining about was by Tauscher in pass protection BEFORE the ball was thrown and ultimately intercepted by the Bears. Tauscher would have no reason to throw a block at Harris after the interception, he would be trying to make the tackle instead.

ND72
09-11-2006, 02:11 PM
I saw the play at the game, and it wasn't even cheap...Taushcer was in front of Harris when it happened, and just before Harris could get to FAvre, Tausch went at his feet...Harris saw it, never defended himself...so that's his fault.

GoPack06
09-11-2006, 03:58 PM
yeah like Olien Kruetz doesnt play dirty.

NewsBruin
09-12-2006, 01:18 AM
No, I don't like Kreutz at all. Maybe, maybe if he were on my team. But I have no love for him. How many other players had their own FBI investigation last season?

Thanks for spotting me about Cliffy. I messed up on that comparison, and I own it. Same for the block. I skimmed the article and thought it was a back-of-the-leg dive after the pick.

Sorry, I'm frustrated with the team, more from the top than the bottom, and it's prejudicing my view of day-by-day events. I apologize for a half-assed post there.

MJZiggy
09-13-2006, 08:32 PM
Tauscher responds to allegations.

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/politics/15494636.htm

Dabaddestbear
09-14-2006, 05:42 PM
Harris actually apologized cuz he said after watching film it was Clifton not Tauscher.