View Full Version : The Official Packers Vikings Game Day Thread
Teamcheez1
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Rodgers has a stellar QB rating of 61.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Scantron on gunner.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
At least MVS is ok as a gunner on punt coverage.
Bretsky
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
I still have blind faith MVS can play for what it's worth. Less faith then a year ago but hoping he'll eventually get it
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Scantling sighting.
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
I know you guys are pissed at your offense but the other guys also play defense.
True, but Rodgers is making that easier.
Fritz
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Kumerow needs to hang on if he wants to play. And Tonyan needs to block.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:17 PM
I have to admit, I'm enjoying the brawling nature of this game.
Bretsky
12-23-2019, 09:18 PM
I know you guys are pissed at your offense but the other guys also play defense.
Defenses look better when a QB misses a wide open guy one throw per drive.
Vikings D is tough as nails. But Rodgers is not playing well
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:18 PM
I still have blind faith MVS can play for what it's worth. Less faith then a year ago but hoping he'll eventually get it
I have less faith. He's had the minutes, but the bell has not gone off.
Freak Out
12-23-2019, 09:19 PM
I'm pretty sure he wasn't even in.
Sweet fucking jesus you guys are MENSA class.
Bretsky
12-23-2019, 09:19 PM
Kumerow needs to hang on if he wants to play. And Tonyan needs to block.
Whitewater Jesus needs to be sent back to Whitewater
bobblehead
12-23-2019, 09:19 PM
The Jones can't run outside and Williams can't run inside dynamic is really showing up in this game
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:20 PM
Interesting pass pro
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:20 PM
95 needs to cut out the cheeseburgers.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:20 PM
Z. is a beast.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Now that is a sack
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
nice
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Your defense ain't fucking around.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Sack by sock.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
3rd and 18 and wide open. You gotta be shitting me!!!!! Great on 1st and 2nd. Shit the bed on 3rd down
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
How is he so wide open.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Wide open.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Of course.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:21 PM
How do you let Diggs run open?
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:22 PM
Crap. They are getting every big play
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:22 PM
sweet baby jesus. 3rd 18
Teamcheez1
12-23-2019, 09:22 PM
The Packers will find a way to lose this game.
Teamcheez1
12-23-2019, 09:22 PM
If Vikes get a TD this game is over.
there we go
NOW SCORE A FUCKING TD!!!!!!
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Thanks Cousins
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Hallelujah
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
How did King catch that?
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Now this is a game!
Nice grab.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
King!! Great INT.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
That's why they picked King ahead of TJ Watt.
I kid, I kid.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Dumb throw and really nice play by king.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Wow...I thought he was going to drop it!!
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Take that King haters
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:23 PM
king with the gift int.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:24 PM
The Packers will find a way to lose this game.
Well they have been behind the WHOLE game :D
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:24 PM
How did King catch that?
He didn't get the slippery gloves that the offense has.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:24 PM
The Xenomorph one handed that thing like he was gonna tear some astronauts face off.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:24 PM
Enough with the shots down field. Play small ball and move the fuckin Chains.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:24 PM
Vikes challenging for DPI
Wow...I thought he was going to drop it!!
yeah
PUT 2 FUCKING HANDS ON THE BALL PLEASE
Vikes challenging for DPI
the hell are they challenging
PI?
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:25 PM
He didn't get the slippery gloves that the offense has.
They must have caught the Pats, I mean Vikes, equipment guy.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:25 PM
king is not a safety booger. STFU!
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:26 PM
I hate the NFL
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:26 PM
If Vikes get a TD this game is over.
I have a feeling they'll come back. They look like the better team. You never know though--not if they keep turning the ball over.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:26 PM
No more outside zone.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:26 PM
Great 1st down run.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:26 PM
Cszonka that ball boys!
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:27 PM
It feels like end of game
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:27 PM
Things heated on the Vikes sideline
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:27 PM
I have a feeling they'll come back. They look like the better team. You never know though--not if they keep turning the ball over.
Packers own line of scrimmage
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:27 PM
I have a feeling they'll come back. They look like the better team. You never know though--not if they keep turning the ball over.
This is a coin flip game to me.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:28 PM
4 down territory.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:28 PM
We better get three here for Christ Sake
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:28 PM
Dear Robert Tonyan,
Fucking block somebody!
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:29 PM
Can’t blame the weather or ball being slick. But 4 fumbles, 2 lost and gift int. Guess we are -1 w/ TO on downs but still. Should be blowing them out w/ how the D is playing
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:29 PM
Tonyan missed the block coming around otherwise that is popped for 10 plus.
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:29 PM
16-4 in first downs
260-106 in yards
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:29 PM
How is that not a horse collar? sure looked like it in real time
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
How is that not a horse collar? sure looked like it in real time
Clean tackle, had his shoulder pad. I thought the same thing until replay.
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
I count two def delays of game not called. Thielen kicking ball in 1st half and guy punching Adams a couple sec after he was down there.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
16-4 in first downs
260-106 in yards
Packers offense is killing the Vikings offense.
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
keep playing small ball.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:30 PM
Scantron salvage operation.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Another Scantling sighting.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Nice play there. needed 1, got 6
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
nice play call
THERE WE GO
keep running the fucking ball
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Great Run
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Game on...
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Finally ran into the right hole outside
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Oh hell yeah!
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
Jones with a good game.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:31 PM
When he sees the hole he’s the best.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Touchdown Jones.
Time of possession starting to be an issue for Vikings D.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Lazard great block.
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
That is why Jones should have been in on that series before half.
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
needed that.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Packers could run every play and win this game
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Kick the EP.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Ok, here we go
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
SLOTH!!
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
G Mo with the 2 point conversion.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Go for 2.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Very nice drive there, well done ARod!
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:33 PM
My chart says kick the extra point but OK
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:33 PM
Kick the EP.
My thought too. Too early to chase points.
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:33 PM
great drive. one of the best of the season.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:33 PM
My thought too. Too early to chase points.
Unless you make it.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:34 PM
Man, nice drive.
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:34 PM
Even Bielema would have gone for 2 there.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:34 PM
With a whole quarter to play I can't ever see going for two. The exact score at that point is irrelevant.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:34 PM
Unless you make it.
That's the thing, right?
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:34 PM
Offense has been clicking the whole game. Turnovers have killed us.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:35 PM
Time for Cousins to Cough up another one...
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:35 PM
My thought too. Too early to chase points.
right.
but I suppose emotion and momentum are part of game.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:35 PM
Offense has been clicking the whole game. Turnovers have killed us.
Yes.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:36 PM
A 3 and out would be huge here.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Cousins looks rattled.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Play action is tough with the 3rd string RB
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:37 PM
A 3 and out would be huge here.
Let’s get a punt.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Time for a Sack
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:38 PM
Z Smith is a man among boys.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:38 PM
Z Smith is a man among boys.
He's good.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:38 PM
Cousins looks rattled.
Cousins gonna Cousins.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:39 PM
I'd love a stop here.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:39 PM
Going for 2 makes sense. 5 or six point lead not much different at this point. 7 is big. No FGs.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:39 PM
Z Smith is a man among boys.
We should call him Michael Jackson
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:39 PM
Cousins gonna Cousins.
Just as likely that the GB defense is going to GB defense.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:41 PM
Gotta punt.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:41 PM
Why argue with the ref? You are not even close.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:41 PM
Just as likely that the GB defense is going to GB defense.
Odd to call out defense with the game they've played tonight.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:41 PM
Time for another half back option pass
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
That's just moronic by MN there
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Watch the fake.
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
nice.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Odd to call out defense with the game they've played tonight.
ikr
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
I don't like that hard count, then waste a timeout.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Packers D has great big hole at LE.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
They will wish they had that timeout later
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Why burn the timeout? Scouting D? Didn’t even try drawing offsides. Weird
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:42 PM
Odd to call out defense with the game they've played tonight.
Have they not played great almost full games before only to blow it late in the game?
With a whole quarter to play I can't ever see going for two. The exact score at that point is irrelevant.
except i think it would be hard to score a TD
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
Good stop D. Need more grind it out O.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
Packers will burn clock with running game.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
Why burn the timeout? Scouting D? Didn’t even try drawing offsides. Weird
Agree.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
They should have took the delay of game
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:43 PM
We should call him Michael Jackson
Jeebus Harlan.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:44 PM
Have they not played great almost full games before only to blow it late in the game?
Not this year. Blown out in 2 of 3 losses.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:44 PM
I'll take Adams over Diggs
MadScientist
12-23-2019, 09:44 PM
They should have took the delay of game
wasting the TO made no sense.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:45 PM
Huge first down.
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:45 PM
Lazard is the 3rd down slant guy
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:45 PM
That hit rattled my teeth
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:45 PM
Lazard with another first down
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:46 PM
Not this year. Blown out in 2 of 3 losses.
Some of those wins they have tried to give away. Chicago being the most recent example.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:46 PM
Lazard is getting it done.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:46 PM
That throw not working as well now.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:46 PM
Have they not played great almost full games before only to blow it late in the game?
I don't know, have they?
The three losses they have this year were not due to late defensive collapses.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:47 PM
Some of those wins they have tried to give away. Chicago being the most recent example.
D sealed the game when the O shit the bed for the last 6 possessions.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:47 PM
Why ....Why a Timeout
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:47 PM
Announcers growing on me.
gbgary
12-23-2019, 09:48 PM
come on Rodgers...just run the fucking play.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:48 PM
Prior to the false start, time out Green Bay....how the fuck do they relate?
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:48 PM
Why ....Why a Timeout
it;s a pivotal play, so...
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
Unblocked sack.
MadScientist
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
That TO was a waste
Teamcheez1
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
Terrible play
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
That wasn’t getting it done
Turner asleep at switch.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
game on
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
it;s a pivotal play, so...
Rodgers will get Sacked
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
Long punt.
Rutnstrut
12-23-2019, 09:49 PM
it;s a pivotal play, so...
It was, for the Vikings.
Bretsky
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
That's why they picked King ahead of TJ Watt.
I kid, I kid.
Phrases like that might cause some punches :)))
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
fair catch!?
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
After a timeout...
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
Decent field position.....I'm questioning if you guys are shakin in your boots....likely not.
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
That wasn’t getting it done
Turner asleep at switch.
Linsley
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
fair catch!?
On a 52 yd punt.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:50 PM
50 yard punt for the AK.
yetisnowman
12-23-2019, 09:51 PM
O line picked a terrible time to have that kind of lapse.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:51 PM
Viking O is pretty hurky jerky
Packers should pull this out but they're making it interesting
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:52 PM
Decent field position.....I'm questioning if you guys are shakin in your boots....likely not.
Have to say Cousins isn't scary.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:52 PM
Phrases like that might cause some punches :)))
Yeah, haha no comparison. Watt's likely to win defensive player of the year.
Good to see King make a big play though
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:52 PM
King. Good D.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
King having a Ballgame
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
Great D play. Qb pressure and a Tfl on a pass.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
Oh no. Zone.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
Viking O is pretty hurky jerky
Packers should pull this out but they're making it interesting
Vikings offense has been shit.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 09:53 PM
KENNNNNNNNY
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Dang that D is tough.
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
That was a stop
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
dagger
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
That's not just the offense being shit but good Pack defense.
Vikings offense has been shit.
kirk cousins is your QB
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Dave Clark Five with a sack.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Dang, Defense, You Scary.
any points here should be the dagger
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Linsley
You sure? Thought he had a guy right in front of him.
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Need points here
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
They brought the A game tonight.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Oh no. Zone.
No zone on 3rd. Phew.
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Too bad this game isn't over with already--like it should be. Of course, we knew it would be a close game. That's just what the Packers do this year.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Packers dominating on both of the lines of scrimmage.
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 09:55 PM
dagger
Isn’t dagger reserved for the guarantee. One score game w/ plenty of time left...
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:56 PM
You sure? Thought he had a guy right in front of him.
Yeah, the guard blew it, not Linsley.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Have to say Cousins isn't scary.
I don't think he is as bad as he looked tonight.
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:56 PM
You sure? Thought he had a guy right in front of him.
That was the guy in front of him, and then he decided to double team the guy on his left. Gotta at least get a hand on the guy over you.
HarveyWallbangers
12-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Yeah, the guard blew it, not Linsley.
Nope. Linsley. You can tell by his reaction that he knew he screwed that up.
Rastak
12-23-2019, 09:57 PM
kirk cousins is your QB
He's been better than your guy which is crazy. Not today, but overall which I never expected.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:57 PM
Those turnovers kept the Vikes in the game.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:57 PM
I don't think he is as bad as he looked tonight.
I don't either. Our rush has been too much for their OL.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 09:57 PM
Isn’t dagger reserved for the guarantee. One score game w/ plenty of time left...
I was sorta joking but I think it's sorta right. Vikings have really sucked this half.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 09:58 PM
That’s 2 more minutes gone.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 09:59 PM
Huge first down and field position flipper.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 09:59 PM
FG is probably enough.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 09:59 PM
Huge first down and field position flipper.
I'd like a score.
Bretsky
12-23-2019, 09:59 PM
any points here should be the dagger
Seattle Game Dumbass :)
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
That was the guy in front of him, and then he decided to double team the guy on his left. Gotta at least get a hand on the guy over you.
We will have full coverage of this debate in More Banjo immediately after the game!!
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
I'd like a score.
Not going to argue.
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Seattle Game Dumbass :)
Fat Mike not in the house.
Teamcheez1
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Booger is an idiot
DAGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
esoxx
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
BOOM!!!!
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
FUCK YA
Joemailman
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Dagger!
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Wow...wow
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
There is your dagger.
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Oh my.
MadScientist
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
JONES!!!
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
My new favorite play. Sneaky outside zone!
Fosco33
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Bam!
George Cumby
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Done.
esoxx
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Merry Christmas Viking fans. Please exit stadium and drive safely.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
No!!!! No dagger yet!!!
MadScientist
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
WTF Mason
Rastak
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Should be an interesting next week for you guys.
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
I'm glad Jones didn't wave and get flagged for taunting. He looked tempted.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Oh no. Kiss of death after dagger.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 10:02 PM
Bach was a little grabby there.
Cheesehead Craig
12-23-2019, 10:02 PM
That was sooooooo pretty
gbgary
12-23-2019, 10:02 PM
fantastic!!
gbgary
12-23-2019, 10:03 PM
time for a pick 6...
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 10:03 PM
How does Aaron Jones not make the Pro Bowl?
like i said before
we are a better run team then passing team
its insane we can't figure that out
Rastak
12-23-2019, 10:03 PM
Merry Christmas Viking fans. Please exit stadium and drive safely.
I hate you too. Merry Christmas Esoxx! :-)
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Jones had monster night and now his stats reflect it
How does Aaron Jones not make the Pro Bowl?
not famous enough
how did rodgers make it?
plus his stats aren't that huge (other then TDs). a lot of pro bowl voting is based on yards for rbs imo
Freak Out
12-23-2019, 10:04 PM
like i said before
we are a better run team then passing team
its insane we can't figure that out
Right? Adjust the mix and bit and its good.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Very mixed feelings about dagger versus
Kiss of Death.
ThunderDan
12-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Gary with the aqb hit.
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 10:04 PM
Cmon Defense!!! Need a turnover!!!
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Get out of this zone!
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Cmon Defense!!!! NEED A TURNOVER!!!
beveaux1
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Smith brothers.
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Sack!
Harlan Huckleby
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
like i said before
we are a better run team then passing team
its insane we can't figure that out
Don't know if I agree, but sure was true tonight. Do Vikes miss their linebacker that much? Their were giant holes all night.
Gotarace
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
YES
pbmax
12-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Hold on Fackrell
Turnstile got him
pittstang5
12-23-2019, 10:06 PM
Thank Christ!!!
MadScientist
12-23-2019, 10:06 PM
Timely flag
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