Official Superb Owl LIV game day thread

[beveaux1]

Game over!

[Rastak]

KC!!!! Fuck you and the no flags bullshit.......why do we assume there is a flag on every goddamn play?

[pbmax]

Who is MVP? Mahomes not that special tonight.

[Teamcheez1]

Glad to see the 49ers go down in flames.

[pbmax]

Over under was 54?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Who is MVP? Mahomes not that special tonight.

He'll get it though.

[Fosco33]

I get scoring. But step out and knee equals W. Now it’s two possession game again.

[pbmax]

Still 3 TOs but now down 11. Weird turn.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Still 3 TOs but now down 11. Weird turn.

2 TOs

[Cheesehead Craig]

Yes!

[pbmax]

I get scoring. But step out and knee equals W. Now it’s two possession game again.

Yep. But FG after 3 TOs leaves you one score and 1:00 left.

[Gotarace]

Breeland mvp

[beveaux1]

The difference in the game is the QB position. Mahomes, even though he isn't sharp, as a difference-maker uses his feet to manufacture first downs.

Garoppolo has been efficient and sharp throughout the game, until the game is put on his shoulders. He can't come through.

Mahomes is an MVP QB, Garoppolo is a midrange QB.

[Fosco33]

Yep. But FG after 3 TOs leaves you one score and 1:00 left.

Two timeouts.

[pbmax]

So Packers 3rd best team?

Live to know how they gummed up this offense unlike Pack.

[pbmax]

Two timeouts.

Ok. 30 seconds and 1 score.

[mraynrand]

4th and 26

[pbmax]

4th and 26?

That is mean.

[George Cumby]

I’m so happy about this

[Rastak]

That was a fine Superb Owl,,,,,

[Gotarace]

Where is Nostradamus Sharp Cheddar?

[George Cumby]

Hey Scharpcheddar.

What’s you’re numerology say about this?

[pbmax]

Mad gonna have a fun week rubbing noses in this collapse.

[mraynrand]

So Packers 3rd best team?

Live to know how they gummed up this offense unlike Pack.

Spagnola strikes again

[pbmax]

Spagnola strikes again

He blitzed too. Not just 4 man rush.

Kinda like you need to have players to make plays.

[Teamcheez1]

Where is Nostradamus Sharp Cheddar?

I forgot about that. It will be continued fun listening to his skewed reality on football.

[mraynrand]

Guessing 'Cheat isn't regretting letting Crappola go. Probably texted Kraft already to rub it in.

[mraynrand]

I forgot about that. It will be continued fun listening to his skewed reality on football.

think he'll even come back?

[KYPack]

Won a some good money tonight.

Forgot about the numerology tip from goat racer and bet on the Chiefs

Plus won a square in the Packer bar.

Not only that, I'm playing golf tomorrow.

[pbmax]

Won a some good money tonight.

Forgot about the numerology tip from goat racer and bet on the Chiefs

Plus won a square in the Packer bar.

Not only that, I'm playing golf tomorrow.

Living the dream KY!

[pbmax]

Goodell is such a fool.

[pbmax]

Before Goodell stumbled through a speech he had two weeks to prepare, Strahan broke the 4 cliches in under 15 seconds record.

[Rastak]

Won a some good money tonight.

Forgot about the numerology tip from goat racer and bet on the Chiefs

Plus won a square in the Packer bar.

Not only that, I'm playing golf tomorrow.



Warmer than where I am....have fun KY!

[George Cumby]

Goodell is such a tool.

FTFY

[scharpcheddar]

Oh darndy darn darn.
At least it was a colorful fun super bowl

[Rastak]

Goodell is such a fool.

Yuppers.

[George Cumby]

Spags dialed it up at the right time and his boys got home.

To bad Pettine and his crew couldn’t do the same.

But the Chiefs would have annihilated the Pack.

[George Cumby]

Oh darndy darn darn.
At least it was a colorful fun super bowl

27

[Zool]

Oh darndy darn darn.
At least it was a colorful fun super bowl

Keep reading the bones fella. You’ll be right eventually.

[Gotarace]

Oh darndy darn darn.
At least it was a colorful fun super bowl
A broke clock is right twice a day...that's 2 times more than your piss poor Prediction.

[pbmax]

Spags dialed it up at the right time and his boys got home.

To bad Pettine and his crew couldn’t do the same.

But the Chiefs would have annihilated the Pack.

:roll:

Eyeroll for you!

[pbmax]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EP0eo4iWAAA-6OC?format=jpg&name=medium

[pbmax]

Bill Barnwell @billbarnwell
Jimmy Garoppolo in the fourth quarter: 3-of-11, 36 yards, INT, fourth-down sack

BUM CHILLUPS @edsbs
still handsome


Takkarist McKinley @Takk
Kyle Shanahan Lol

[RashanGary]

So Packers 3rd best team?

Live to know how they gummed up this offense unlike Pack.

I was wondering the same thing.

Glad we don't have to relive the 49ers road to glory though.

[MadtownPacker]

Mad gonna have a fun week rubbing noses in this collapse.Nah more relieved that no one will want to talk football. :lol:

[Harlan Huckleby]

Was that a game or was that a game? Huh? huh?

[Joemailman]

Was that a game or was that a game? Huh? huh?

That was a game.

[call_me_ishmael]

Niners blew it in the 4th, wow. Clearly they were the superior team even though I am left wondering how Andy Reid neutralized the pass rush so much more effectively than LaFleur did.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Niners blew it in the 4th, wow. Clearly they were the superior team even though I am left wondering how Andy Reid neutralized the pass rush so much more effectively than LaFleur did.

I'm not so sure. Mahomes played poorly for 3 quarters and still they found a way to win. I know San Fran gets credit for bringing heat, but Mahomes looked like Rodgers on a bad day with balls behind receivers and in the turf. Maybe San Fran wins 6 out of 10 games, but KC is really good too.

[call_me_ishmael]

I agree that KC is great but SF stopped running the ball and started throwing in Q4. The 3 times they did run they were successful. Mind you, they were up by 10! Jimmy G isn't the second coming, he is not a great starter IMO and they should have let their OL road grade the game to win instead of trying to have Jimmy's arm win.

[Bretsky]

Niners blew it in the 4th, wow. Clearly they were the superior team even though I am left wondering how Andy Reid neutralized the pass rush so much more effectively than LaFleur did.

One HUGE difference is Homme didn't need much time because his guys were getting wide open

The Niners could not cover the Cheifs WR's. Between Kelsey, Hills, Watskins, and the other rookie WR somebody was open the whole game for them. It was just giving Homme enough time to find one of them being wide open.

Let's do an honest breakout of the receiving options between KC and Green Bay for this year

Chiefs- Kelsey, Hill, Wadtins, Hardmon, Robinson

Packers Jimmy, Adams, Lizard, MVS, Allison

If you take the top 10 receiving options between the TE's and WR's

The Chiefs probably have nine of the ten best options. For sure 8 of 10 at worst.

Epic failure at WR talent in Green Bay this year

[call_me_ishmael]

To be fair Bretsky, it helps KC a ton that their two stars are on rookie contracts.

But yeah - John Dorsey is an awesome scout. Packers would be well served to try to bring him in. I doubt he gets another GM shot.

[scharpcheddar]

Keep reading the bones fella. You’ll be right eventually.

lets see.. I picked Niners to make SB in august based on fixed games. I got the conference championships right.
so, i'm basically 3 and 1 in that regard. I'm more than right. I got this game wrong. oh gosh darnit. back to my life while these jocks run to their millions whether they win or lose

[mraynrand]

lets see.. I picked Niners to make SB in august based on fixed games. I got the conference championships right.
so, i'm basically 3 and 1 in that regard. I'm more than right. I got this game wrong. oh gosh darnit. back to my life while these jocks run to their millions whether they win or lose

now tell us about area 51

[mraynrand]

So Packers 3rd best team?

Love to know how they gummed up this offense unlike Pack.

Maybe more concerned with winning than being snubbed for pro bowl?

[ThunderDan]

lets see.. I picked Niners to make SB in august based on fixed games. I got the conference championships right.
so, i'm basically 3 and 1 in that regard. I'm more than right. I got this game wrong. oh gosh darnit. back to my life while these jocks run to their millions whether they win or lose

You had Baltimore verses NE in the AFC Championship with NE winning.

[Zool]

lets see.. I picked Niners to make SB in august based on fixed games. I got the conference championships right.
so, i'm basically 3 and 1 in that regard. I'm more than right. I got this game wrong. oh gosh darnit. back to my life while these jocks run to their millions whether they win or lose

Well good try at a spin, but you said you knew the entire thing was rigged by reading signs and TV commercials.

Did you pick the Chiefs to start the season? Did you pick the Packers in the NFCC? You made a ton of bold "predictions" and called people dumb for not seeing the signs.

Don't throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back. You claimed the whole thing is rigged and you had the cypher.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Well good try at a spin, but you said you knew the entire thing was rigged by reading signs and TV commercials.

Did you pick the Chiefs to start the season? Did you pick the Packers in the NFCC? You made a ton of bold "predictions" and called people dumb for not seeing the signs.

Don't throw out your shoulder patting yourself on the back. You claimed the whole thing is rigged and you had the cypher.

He picked it elsewhere, just not here. Where? Oh you wouldn't know them. Yeah, that's the ticket.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/thats-my-wife-5bc538.jpg

[Zool]

He picked it elsewhere, just not here. Where? Oh you wouldn't know them. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Oh man! I had totally forgotten about that skit. To the YouTube!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ucJN8cRDqM

[Vincenzo]

I’m not one to start complaining too much about officiating unless it’s blatant, but did anyone else think the helmet to helmet roughing the passer “non-call” on Garoppolo was blatant?

[Joemailman]

I’m not one to start complaining too much about officiating unless it’s blatant, but did anyone else think the helmet to helmet roughing the passer “non-call” on Garoppolo was blatant?

Yes. Don't know if they just missed it, or if they let it go in the Super Bowl because they didn't find it egregious. Looked like Garoppolo was at least temporarily affected by it though.

[George Cumby]

Niners blew it in the 4th, wow. Clearly they were the superior team even though I am left wondering how Andy Reid neutralized the pass rush so much more effectively than LaFleur did.

I don't buy that assertion at all.

Something Patler mentioned YEARS ago about SB Champs is they have to go through adversity, to be tested, hard, to find their mettle.

KC was behind in both of their PO games and had to come roaring back.

SF never trailed in the PO's until yesterday.

KC was confident, they'd been there before and knew they could come from behind, SF had it too easy with patsies like the Packers on the menu.

Mahomes > Garofolo

[Cheesehead Craig]

When KC gets hot, it's an avalanche. In their 3 playoff games where they were down the most, 24-0 to Houston, 17-7 to TN and 20-10 to SF, they finished those 3 games a combined 100-14. That's just amazing.

[gbgary]

great game. shakira. bill murray.

[MadtownPacker]

Little shanahan played to not lose just like he did versus Patriots when he was with Atlanta. Same thing pretty much. Kept calling pass plays that failed and allowed the opponent to get the ball back quickly.

[Gotarace]

Little shanahan played to not lose just like he did versus Patriots when he was with Atlanta. Same thing pretty much. Kept calling pass plays that failed and allowed the opponent to get the ball back quickly.
Can't argue with this...We watched Stubby do this season after season when the Packers got the lead also.

[mraynrand]

Can't argue with this...We watched Stubby do this season after season when the Packers got the lead also.

except that it's upside down. The conservative approach would have been to run the ball, especially since they are so good at it and had three TOs when they were down 24-20. Even so, they took their shot. Mahommes completed his deep shot, Crappola failed.

[run pMc]

I thought Damian Williams should have gotten the MVP, although Mahomes played good enough I guess.
I don't think Shanahan had a bad plan necessarily, they just weren't able to execute it nearly as well as they did vs. GB. They were the #1 running team, that's what got them to the SB so they're going to keep doing it.
SF only had 54 plays (incl punts) and KC was able to stop enough running plays to make Jimmy throw. KC ran almost 20 more plays than SF, and Mahomes >> Garopolo.

Spagnolo sent 6 after Jimmy G a few times and he tended to panic and threw a few bad throws (incl the INT to Breeland).

[Patler]

Little shanahan played to not lose just like he did versus Patriots when he was with Atlanta. Same thing pretty much. Kept calling pass plays that failed and allowed the opponent to get the ball back quickly.Can't argue with this...We watched Stubby do this season after season when the Packers got the lead also.
except that it's upside down. The conservative approach would have been to run the ball, especially since they are so good at it and had three TOs when they were down 24-20. Even so, they took their shot. Mahommes completed his deep shot, Crappola failed.

It's not a conservative/unconservative thing. What SF did, and what we really complained about with McCarthy, is the coach tryin to COACH or PLAY CALL his team to victory, instead of just letting his team do what it does best. For the Packers most of the time, that was putting the ball in the QB's hand and moving the ball through the air. Continuing to score. For SF this year, it was letting their O-line and runningbacks take over and a strong pass rush to make things difficult for a team coming back.

SF had a three point lead, 2nd down and 5 yards to go with five and a half minutes remaining. Shanahan lost sight of what they did best and turned to Garafolo to win the game. They punted just 9 seconds later on the game clock. He tried to coach or play call his team to a win. He did not trust his team to win by doing what it did best. Getting 5 yards in two running plays.

By this time, teams are what they are, but most importantly teams have to KNOW what they are and trust that they can win that way. For some teams, that can be doing the unexpected. For SF this year, it was pounding the ball. In this game, the runningbacks were averaging about 5/carry, and they were never stopped on consecutive running plays. Relying on Garapolo was not the way to go.

When crunch time came, Shanahan did not trust his team to win by playing to its strength.

[call_me_ishmael]

It's not a conservative/unconservative thing. What SF did, and what we really complained about with McCarthy, is the coach tryin to COACH or PLAY CALL his team to victory, instead of just letting his team do what it does best. For the Packers most of the time, that was putting the ball in the QB's hand and moving the ball through the air. Continuing to score. For SF this year, it was letting their O-line and runningbacks take over and a strong pass rush to make things difficult for a team coming back.

SF had a three point lead, 2nd down and 5 yards to go with five and a half minutes remaining. Shanahan lost sight of what they did best and turned to Garafolo to win the game. They punted just 9 seconds later on the game clock. He tried to coach or play call his team to a win. He did not trust his team to win by doing what it did best. Getting 5 yards in two running plays.

By this time, teams are what they are, but most importantly teams have to KNOW what they are and trust that they can win that way. For some teams, that can be doing the unexpected. For SF this year, it was pounding the ball. In this game, the runningbacks were averaging about 5/carry, and they were never stopped on consecutive running plays. Relying on Garapolo was not the way to go.

When crunch time came, Shanahan did not trust his team to win by playing to its strength.

Good post. I agree. That said, it's a tough spot to be in. Glad it's not me.

[pbmax]

It's not a conservative/unconservative thing. What SF did, and what we really complained about with McCarthy, is the coach tryin to COACH or PLAY CALL his team to victory, instead of just letting his team do what it does best. For the Packers most of the time, that was putting the ball in the QB's hand and moving the ball through the air. Continuing to score. For SF this year, it was letting their O-line and runningbacks take over and a strong pass rush to make things difficult for a team coming back.

SF had a three point lead, 2nd down and 5 yards to go with five and a half minutes remaining. Shanahan lost sight of what they did best and turned to Garafolo to win the game. They punted just 9 seconds later on the game clock. He tried to coach or play call his team to a win. He did not trust his team to win by doing what it did best. Getting 5 yards in two running plays.

By this time, teams are what they are, but most importantly teams have to KNOW what they are and trust that they can win that way. For some teams, that can be doing the unexpected. For SF this year, it was pounding the ball. In this game, the runningbacks were averaging about 5/carry, and they were never stopped on consecutive running plays. Relying on Garapolo was not the way to go.

When crunch time came, Shanahan did not trust his team to win by playing to its strength.

Barnwell came up with two plays that he thinks should have been runs. One was Patler’s example, the other he thinks JimmyG audibled our of.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28624233/barnwell-super-bowl-liv-andy-reid-masterpiece-how-chiefs-came-back-49ers-blew-it

KC stacked the box successfully on some plays and Jones and Suggs got some pressure.

[mraynrand]

For the record my definition of conservative playcalling is bread and butter low risk stuff. Regardless of what you call it I was surprised at the high risk calls when SF has their run game and Crappola was not looking great. That is all.

[Joemailman]

Super Bowl was 10th most watched in history.

2 main reasons in my opinion:

Mahomes

People were glad to see someone other than Patriots representing AFC.

[pbmax]

Chris Sims with the case for passing on that second and 5. Note: he doesn't mention 8 man box. Looks like a good play call. But better play by Jones than Garrrrrappppollloo.


https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1224374358128328708

[call_me_ishmael]

Something that jumped out to me was how well - if you'll call it that - Eric Fischer did against Nick Bosa relative to Bakhtiari. Has Bakhtiarri lost a step as Patler posited earlier in the season? I thought he seemed to play well towards the end of the year.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

For the record my definition of conservative playcalling is bread and butter low risk stuff. Regardless of what you call it I was surprised at the high risk calls when SF has their run game and Crappola was not looking great. That is all.

Take this shit to FYI, yo!

Btw, which team won the fucking game?

[scharpcheddar]

Take this shit to FYI, yo!

Btw, which team won the fucking game?

lol like you dont know.. liar

[Anti-Polar Bear]

lol like you dont know.. liar

I don’t. Usually, I checkout espn.com and packerrats.com daily while eating or shitting. However, I have not visit any sports sites since I turned off the TV at halftime of the 69ers debacle. Even subscribed to Amazon Kindle, to keep mind occupied with ebooks instead sporting news.

Since I don’t know the final score of the 69ers-Pack game, in my mind, the Packers have never lost that game.

[hoosier]

It's not a conservative/unconservative thing. What SF did, and what we really complained about with McCarthy, is the coach tryin to COACH or PLAY CALL his team to victory, instead of just letting his team do what it does best. For the Packers most of the time, that was putting the ball in the QB's hand and moving the ball through the air. Continuing to score. For SF this year, it was letting their O-line and runningbacks take over and a strong pass rush to make things difficult for a team coming back.

SF had a three point lead, 2nd down and 5 yards to go with five and a half minutes remaining. Shanahan lost sight of what they did best and turned to Garafolo to win the game. They punted just 9 seconds later on the game clock. He tried to coach or play call his team to a win. He did not trust his team to win by doing what it did best. Getting 5 yards in two running plays.

By this time, teams are what they are, but most importantly teams have to KNOW what they are and trust that they can win that way. For some teams, that can be doing the unexpected. For SF this year, it was pounding the ball. In this game, the runningbacks were averaging about 5/carry, and they were never stopped on consecutive running plays. Relying on Garapolo was not the way to go.

When crunch time came, Shanahan did not trust his team to win by playing to its strength.

What SF does best isn't just run, run, run the ball. It's run, run and then play action pass. If the 2nd-and-5 call had worked, he's a genius.

[mraynrand]

Take this shit to FYI, yo!

Btw, which team won the fucking game?

The team from the great state of Kansas, of course!

[pbmax]

Something that jumped out to me was how well - if you'll call it that - Eric Fischer did against Nick Bosa relative to Bakhtiari. Has Bakhtiarri lost a step as Patler posited earlier in the season? I thought he seemed to play well towards the end of the year.

Second game both Bach and Bulaga plays better than first. Had more trouble in middle.

Bosa owned Fisher for most of three quarters, but as has been the case in other games of theirs, their pass rush was done in the fourth quarter.

[mraynrand]

I have not visit any sports sites since I turned off the TV at halftime of the 69ers debacle. Even subscribed to Amazon Kindle, to keep mind occupied with ebooks instead sporting news.

Since I don’t know the final score of the 69ers-Pack game, in my mind, the Packers have never lost that game.

I did something similar in 2007. Never watched that Giants/NE Super Bowl.

[pbmax]

Hill's big 44 yard catch was a blown coverage.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001100968/article/kyle-shanahan-endures-another-devastating-super-bowl-collapse


Certainly Shanahan's blood was boiling inside about some of the mistakes that cost his team a title. A coverage breakdown on a third-and-15 play with 7:13 remaining -- cornerback Emmanuel Moseley, stationed on the outside of a three-deep zone, inexplicably ran with wideout Sammy Watkins on a crossing route underneath, allowing speedy receiver Tyreek Hill to get free on a post-corner route for a 44-yard completion from Mahomes that sparked the comeback -- was particularly galling.

[pbmax]

Dan Orlovsky says sure, blown coverage, but for a specific reason:

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1224368353558568961

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I did something similar in 2007. Never watched that Giants/NE Super Bowl.

I’ve been catching up on alotta of the shit Karl Marx wrote. Better go review your Adam Smith notes, cos, it’s about to get interesting in FYI. :)

[pbmax]

Terrell Suggs covering George Kittle. Wasn't too bad. But this was get yourself out of a bad play football. Run when they expect pass, pass when they expect run.

https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/1224351026930692097

[mraynrand]

I’ve been catching up on alotta of the shit Karl Marx wrote. Better go review your Adam Smith notes, cos, it’s about to get interesting in FYI. :)

i doubt it

[George Cumby]

I don’t. Usually, I checkout espn.com and packerrats.com daily while eating or shitting.

I am so glad to hear that we get to share these moments with you.

I'm moved, really.

[hoosier]

Kind of explains the quality of the product, doesn't it?

[mraynrand]

I'm moved, really.

So, apparently, was he.

[George Cumby]

So, apparently, was he.

I knew I could rely on you, PB or Zool.

[mraynrand]

I knew I could rely on you, PB or Zool.

I can't approach APB-level coprophilia, but I'm still pretty Swift - on 'escatology'

[George Cumby]

I can't approach APB-level coprophilia

Are you being modest?

Or perhaps......relieved?

[Cheesehead Craig]

Are you being modest?

Or perhaps......relieved?

Just a little corny

[Patler]

What SF does best isn't just run, run, run the ball. It's run, run and then play action pass. If the 2nd-and-5 call had worked, he's a genius.

Not a genius, just fortunate. Garoppolo was not throwing particularly well, and per Aikman (who I think actually has good commentary about QB play if you sift out the patronizing) was making questionable decisions from time to time. I didn't see a good reason for turning the game over to him.