Official 2020 NFL Combine Thread

[Joemailman]

TE's, QBs and WR's report Sunday February 23

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[Joemailman]

Quarterbacks
» Kelly Bryant, QB, Missouri
» Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
» Kevin Davidson, QB, Princeton
» Jacob Eason, QB, Washington
» Jake Fromm, QB, Georgia
» Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington State
» Justin Herbert, QB, Oregon
» Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma
» Brian Lewerke, QB, Michigan State
» Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
» Jake Luton, QB, Oregon State
» Cole McDonald, QB, Hawaii
» Steven Montez, QB, Colorado
» James Morgan, QB, Florida International
» Shea Patterson, QB, Michigan
» Nate Stanley, QB, Iowa
» Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama

Running backs
» Salvon Ahmed, RB, Washington
» Cam Akers, RB, Florida State
» Jet Anderson, RB, TCU
» LeVante Bellamy, RB, Western Michigan
» Eno Benjamin, RB, Arizona State
» Raymond Calais, RB, Louisiana-Lafayette
» DeeJay Dallas, RB, Miami
» AJ Dillon, RB, Boston College
» J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio State
» Rico Dowdle, RB, South Carolina
» Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU
» Darrynton Evans, RB, Appalachian State
» JaMycal Hasty, RB, Baylor
» Brian Herrien, RB, Georgia
» Tony Jones, RB, Notre Dame
» Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA
» Javon Leake, RB, Maryland
» Benny LeMay, RB, UNC-Charlotte
» Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland
» Zack Moss, RB, Utah
» Sewo Olonilua, RB, TCU
» La'Mical Perine, RB, Florida
» Scottie Phillips, RB, Mississippi
» James Robinson, RB, Illinois State
» D'Andre Swift, RB, Georgia
» J.J. Taylor, RB, Arizona
» Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin
» Patrick Taylor, RB, Memphis
» Ke'Shawn Vaughn, RB, Vanderbilt
» Mike Warren, RB, Cincinnati

Wide receivers
» Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
» Omar Bayless, WR, Arkansas State
» Lynn Bowden, WR, Kentucky
» Tony Brown, WR, Colorado
» Lawrence Cager, WR, Georgia
» Marquez Callaway, WR, Tennessee
» Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin
» Chase Claypool, WR, Notre Dame
» Tyrie Cleveland, WR, Florida
» Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island
» Gabriel Davis, WR, Central Florida
» Quartney Davis, WR, Texas A&M
» Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas
» Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
» Chris Finke, WR, Notre Dame
» Aaron Fuller, WR, Washington
» Antonio Gandy-Golden, WR, Liberty
» Antonio Gibson, WR, Memphis
» Stephen Guidry, WR, Mississippi State
» KJ Hamler, WR, Penn State
» Tee Higgins, WR, Clemson
» John Hightower, WR, Boise State
» K.J. Hill, WR, Ohio State
» Isaiah Hodgins, WR, Oregon State
» Trishton Jackson, WR, Syracuse
» Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
» Van Jefferson, WR, Florida
» Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee
» Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
» Collin Johnson, WR, Texas
» Juwan Johnson, WR, Oregon
» Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota
» CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
» Kalija Lipscomb, WR, Vanderbilt
» Austin Mack, WR, Ohio State
» Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor
» Darnell Mooney, WR, Tulane
» K.J. Osborn, WR, Miami
» Aaron Parker, WR, Rhode Island
» Dezmon Patmon, WR, Washington State
» Donovan Peoples-Jones, WR, Michigan
» Malcolm Perry, WR, Navy
» Michael Pittman, WR, USC
» James Proche, WR, SMU
» Jalen Reagor, WR, TCU
» Joe Reed, WR, Virginia
» Kendrick Rogers, WR, Texas A&M
» Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama
» Laviska Shenault Jr., WR, Colorado
» Darrell Stewart, WR, Michigan State
» Freddie Swain, WR, Florida
» Jeff Thomas, WR, Miami
» Ben Victor, WR, Ohio State
» Quez Watkins, WR, Southern Mississippi
» Cody White, WR, Michigan State

Tight ends
» Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
» Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
» Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
» Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
» Josiah Deguara, TE, Cincinnati
» Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
» Dalton Keene, TE, Virginia Tech
» Cole Kmet, TE, Notre Dame
» Sean McKeon, TE, Michigan
» Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU
» C.J. O'Grady, TE, Arkansas
» Albert Okwuegbunam, TE, Missouri
» Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford
» Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
» Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU
» Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Portland State
» Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
» Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida
» Charlie Woerner, TE, Georgia
» Dom Wood-Anderson, TE, Tennessee

Offensive linemen
» Trey Adams, OL, Washington
» Hakeem Adeniji, OL, Kansas
» Tremayne Anchrum, OL, Clemson
» Ben Bartch, OL, St. John's (MN)
» Mekhi Becton, OL, Louisville
» Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin
» Ben Bredeson, OL, Michigan
» Cohl Cabral, OL, Arizona State
» Saahdiq Charles, OL, LSU
» Cameron Clark, OL, UNC-Charlotte
» Ezra Cleveland, OL, Boise State
» Trystan Colon-Castillo, OL, Missouri
» Lloyd Cushenberry, OL, LSU
» Jack Driscoll, OL, Auburn
» Yasir Durant, OL, Missouri
» Jake Hanson, OL, Oregon
» Nick Harris, OL, Washington
» Charlie Heck, OL, UNC
» Matt Hennessy, OL, Temple
» Justin Herron, OL, Wake Forest
» Robert Hunt, OL, Louisiana-Lafayette
» Keith Ismael, OL, San Diego State
» Cordel Iwuagwu, OL, TCU
» Austin Jackson, OL, USC
» Jonah Jackson OL, Ohio State
» Joshua Jones, OL, Houston
» Solomon Kindley, OL, Georgia
» Shane Lemieux, OL, Oregon
» Damien Lewis, OL, LSU
» Colton McKivitz, OL, West Virginia
» John Molchon, OL, Boise State
» Kyle Murphy, OL, Rhode Island
» Netane Muti, OL, Fresno State
» Lucas Niang, OL, TCU
» Mike Onwenu, OL, Michigan
» Matt Peart, OL, Connecticut
» Tyre Phillips, OL, Mississippi State
» Danny Pinter, OL, Ball State
» Cesar Ruiz, OL, Michigan
» Jon Runyan, OL, Michigan
» John Simpson, OL, Clemson
» Terence Steele, OL, Texas Tech
» Logan Stenberg, OL, Kentucky
» Simon Stepaniak, OL, Indiana
» Alex Taylor, OL, South Carolina State
» Andrew Thomas, OL, Georgia
» Calvin Throckmorton, OL, Oregon
» Prince Tega Wanogho, OL, Auburn
» Darryl Williams, OL, Mississippi State
» Jedrick Wills, OL, Alabama
» Isaiah Wilson, OL, Georgia
» Tristan Wirfs, OL, Iowa

[Joemailman]

Defensive linemen
» McTelvin Agim, DL, Arkansas
» Bradlee Anae, DL, Utah
» Ross Blacklock, DL, TCU
» Derrick Brown, DL, Auburn
» Josiah Coatney, DL, Mississippi
» Kendall Coleman, DL, Syracuse
» Darrion Daniels, DL, Nebraska
» Marlon Davidson, DL, Auburn
» Carlos Davis, DL, Nebraska
» Khalil Davis, DL, Nebraska
» Raekwon Davis, DL, Alabama
» Jordan Elliott, DL, Missouri
» A.J. Epenesa, DL, Iowa
» Leki Fotu, DL, Utah
» Neville Gallimore, DL, Oklahoma
» Jonathan Garvin, DL, Miami
» Trevis Gipson, DL, Tulsa
» Jonathan Greenard, DL, Florida
» Yetur Gross-Matos, DL, Penn State
» DaVon Hamilton, DL, Ohio State
» LaDarius Hamilton, DL, North Texas
» Alex Highsmith, DL, UNC-Charlotte
» Trevon Hill, DL, Miami
» Benito Jones, DL, Mississippi
» Khalid Kareem, DL, Notre Dame
» Javon Kinlaw, DL, South Carolina
» Rashard Lawrence II, DL, LSU
» James Lynch, DL, Baylor
» Justin Madubuike, DL, Texas A&M
» Larrell Murchison, DL, North Carolina State
» Julian Okwara, DL, Notre Dame
» John Penisini, DL, Utah
» Chauncey Rivers, DL, Mississippi State
» Malcolm Roach, DL, Texas
» Alton Robinson, DL, Syracuse
» Qaadir Sheppard, DL, Mississippi
» James Smith-Williams, DL, North Carolina State
» Jason Strowbridge, DL, UNC
» Derrek Tuszka, DL, North Dakota State
» Broderick Washington, DL, Texas Tech
» Kenny Willekes, DL, Michigan State
» Raequan Williams, DL, Michigan State
» Rob Windsor, DL, Penn State
» D.J. Wonnum, DL, South Carolina
» Chase Young, DL, Ohio State
» Jabari Zuniga, DL, Florida

Linebackers
» Joe Bachie, LB, Michigan State
» Markus Bailey, LB, Purdue
» Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
» Francis Bernard, LB, Utah
» Daniel Bituli, LB, Tennessee
» Shaun Bradley, LB, Temple
» Jordan Brooks, LB, Texas Tech
» Cameron Brown, LB, Penn State
» K'Lavon Chaisson, LB, LSU
» Nick Coe, LB, Auburn
» Carter Coughlin, LB, Minnesota
» Akeem Davis-Gaither, LB, Appalachian State
» Michael Divinity, LB, LSU
» Troy Dye, LB, Oregon
» Tipa Galeai, LB, Utah State*
» Cale Garrett, LB, Missouri
» Willie Gay Jr., LB, Mississippi State
» Scoota Harris, LB, Arkansas
» Malik Harrison, LB, Ohio State
» Khaleke Hudson, LB, Michigan
» Anfernee Jennings, LB, Alabama
» Clay Johnston, LB, Baylor
» Azur Kamara, LB, Kansas
» Terrell Lewis, LB, Alabama
» Jordan Mack, LB, Virginia
» Kamal Martin, LB, Minnesota
» Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma
» Dante Olson, LB, Montana
» Jacob Phillips, LB, LSU
» Michael Pinckney, LB, Miami
» Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Miami
» Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
» Chapelle Russell, LB, Temple
» Isaiah Simmons, LB, Clemson
» Justin Strnad, LB, Wake Forest
» Darrell Taylor, LB, Tennessee
» Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
» Casey Toohill, LB, Stanford
» Josh Uche, LB, Michigan
» Mykal Walker, LB, Fresno State
» Curtis Weaver, LB, Boise State
» Evan Weaver, LB, California
» Logan Wilson, LB, Wyoming
» David Woodward, LB, Utah State

Defensive backs
» Damon Arnette, DB, Ohio State
» Grayland Arnold, DB, Baylor
» Trajan Bandy, DB, Miami
» Essang Bassey, DB, Wake Forest
» Julian Blackmon, DB, Utah
» Antoine Brooks Jr., DB, Maryland
» Myles Bryant, DB, Washington
» Terrell Burgess, DB, Utah
» Shyheim Carter, DB, Alabama
» Jeremy Chinn, DB, Southern Illinois
» Nevelle Clarke, DB, Central Florida
» Rodney Clemons, DB, SMU
» Brian Cole II, DB, Mississippi State
» Kamren Curl, DB, Arkansas
» Cameron Dantzler, DB, Mississippi State
» Ashtyn Davis, DB, California
» Javaris Davis, DB, Auburn
» Grant Delpit, DB, LSU
» Trevon Diggs, DB, Alabama
» Kyle Dugger, DB, Lenoir-Rhyne
» Jalen Elliott, DB, Notre Dame
» Jordan Fuller, DB, Ohio State
» Kristian Fulton, DB, LSU
» Alohi Gilman, DB, Notre Dame
» Jeff Gladney, DB, TCU
» A.J. Green, DB, Oklahoma State
» Javelin K. Guidry, DB, Utah
» Bryce Hall, DB, Virginia
» Harrison Hand, DB, Temple
» Jaylinn Hawkins, DB, California
» C.J. Henderson, DB, Florida
» Lavert Hill, DB, Michigan
» Darnay Holmes, DB, UCLA
» Noah Igbinoghene, DB, Auburn
» Dane Jackson, DB, Pittsburgh
» Lamar Jackson, DB, Nebraska
» Jaylon Johnson, DB, Utah
» Brandon Jones, DB, Texas
» BoPete Keyes, DB, Tulane
» Xavier McKinney, DB, Alabama
» Josh Metellus, DB, Michigan
» Chris Miller, DB, Baylor
» Tanner Muse, DB, Clemson
» Michael Ojemudia, DB, Iowa
» Jeff Okudah, DB, Ohio State
» James Pierre, DB, Florida Atlantic
» Troy Pride, DB, Notre Dame
» J.R. Reed, DB, Georgia
» John Reid, DB, Penn State
» Amik Robertson, DB, Louisiana Tech
» Reggie Robinson II, DB, Tulsa
» Stanford Samuels, DB, Florida State
» Josiah Scott, DB, Michigan State
» L'Jarius Sneed, DB, Louisiana Tech
» Geno Stone, DB, Iowa
» A.J. Terrell, DB, Clemson
» Daniel Thomas, DB, Auburn
» Stantley Thomas-Oliver, DB, Florida International
» Kindle Vildor, DB, Georgia Southern
» K'Von Wallace, DB, Clemson
» Antoine Winfield Jr., DB, Minnesota

Specialists
» Tyler Bass, K, Georgia Southern
» Rodrigo Blankenship, K, Georgia
» Joseph Charlton, P, South Carolina
» Blake Ferguson, LS, LSU
» Sterling Hofrichter, P, Syracuse
» Braden Mann, P, Texas A&M
» JJ Molson, K, UCLA
» Alex Pechin, P, Bucknell
» Arryn Siposs, P, Auburn
» Tommy Townsend, P, Florida
» Michael Turk, P, Arizona State
» Steven Wirtel, LS, Iowa State

[Radagast]

Wow Joe, I'm on board with you but I still as always go with need first. The Packers, as of this date, need a deep threat WR a Right offensive Tackle, and an Inside Linebacker. Signing Martinez to a fair contract is not just a want , but a necessity.

Your info is fabulous Joe, but being in alphabetical order does not rate the players from BEST to late round hopefuls. Perhaps that's a goog starting discussion to expand upon.

Good work Joe !

[Deputy Nutz]

It's very odd that Chris Orr from Wisconsin was not invited tot he Combine. He was an all conference player in the Big Ten. He had 11.5 sacks 14 tackles for a loss and 5 pass defenses

[Joemailman]

Cephus either had his interview yesterday or is having it today. For him, the interviews might be more important than the drills he runs.

[Joemailman]

It's very odd that Chris Orr from Wisconsin was not invited tot he Combine. He was an all conference player in the Big Ten. He had 11.5 sacks 14 tackles for a loss and 5 pass defenses

Only 4 Badgers invited to combine. Strange. Michigan and Ohio St. each had 11.


Wisconsin

» Zack Baun, LB, Wisconsin
» Tyler Biadasz, OL, Wisconsin
» Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin
» Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin

[Joemailman]

Chase Young not expected to take part in any drills. Will be there for medical and interviews.

Joe Burrow not expected to throw.

[Deputy Nutz]

Joe Burrows has small hands.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Joe Burrows has small hands.

He's definately not going to score well on the masterbation drill then.

[mraynrand]

Cephus either had his interview yesterday or is having it today. For him, the interviews might be more important than the drills he runs.

Hopefully he didn't have a friend there taking pictures

[run pMc]

Hopefully he didn't have a friend there taking pictures

LOL yeah I guess he barely hit the 9" hand threshold considered good/acceptable for QBs. Interestingly, Jake Fromm has "small hands" for measuring 1/8" short at 8 7/8". Seems pretty silly; If the Bengals skip drafting Burrow because they look at his hands and not his play/production it would be hilariously Cincy. I guess Chase Young wouldn't be a bad second option but I think Burrow can play. Trouble is his recent LSU team was probably better (more talented) than his future CIN team :)

[pbmax]

LOL yeah I guess he barely hit the 9" hand threshold considered good/acceptable for QBs. Interestingly, Jake Fromm has "small hands" for measuring 1/8" short at 8 7/8". Seems pretty silly; If the Bengals skip drafting Burrow because they look at his hands and not his play/production it would be hilariously Cincy. I guess Chase Young wouldn't be a bad second option but I think Burrow can play. Trouble is his recent LSU team was probably better (more talented) than his future CIN team :)

Huge debate about Dave Krieg taking place on Twitter today and yesterday.

[Joemailman]

Joe Burrow rebuffed any notion that he doesn't want the Cincinnati Bengals to select him No. 1 overall in the 2020 NFL Draft.

"I'll play for whoever drafts me," Burrow said Tuesday from the 2020 NFL Scouting Combine. "I'm just not going to be presumptuous about what they want to do. It's the draft. You guys have been covering it for a long time. You never know what's going to happen."

Burrow might not be presumptuous, but the rest of the globe assumes the Bengals will use the top pick on the Heisman Trophy winner. The LSU quarterback's previous comments have seemed noncommittal about joining the Bengals organization. The hiring of Carson Palmer's brother, Jordan, as a QB coach after the former blasted the Cincy franchise, added fuel to the speculation.

Burrow said Tuesday that the narrative was spun from others reading into his previous comments about having "leverage," insisting he was simply talking about his choices of how to handle the combine.

"The only thing I've said is I didn't want to be presumptuous about the pick," Burrow said. "So, that's why I've been noncommittal, because I don't know what's going to happen. They might not pick me. They might fall in love with someone else. You guys kind of took that narrative and ran with it. There has never been anything like that from my end."

Burrow noted that he wouldn't sit out if the Bengals use the top pick on him.

"I'm not going to not play. I'm a ballplayer. Whoever picks me, I'm going to show up," he said..

[run pMc]

LOL at Joe Burrow:

Considering retirement after I was informed the football will be slipping out of my tiny hands. Please keep me in your thoughts.
https://twitter.com/Joe_Burrow10/status/1232071931249254402

[Bretsky]

Interesting interview with Bruce Arians; BEST QUOTE from his interview when asking about it

DEAR GOOTER; PLEASE ACCEPT THIS AS THE LAW

The biggest mistake you can make at the combine is to fall in love with somebody. Love the production. Love the Tape. But don't fall in love with somebody because of the numbers at the combine.

[run pMc]

^Agree. The tape doesn't lie. If someone's numbers are way above/below expectations, you go back and review the tape again to see if you missed something.
The interview and medical are more important. Combine is underwear Olympics and crazy stuff gets blown out of proportion.

That said, there are benefits to seeing all these guys run drills on the same field at the same time for comparison.

[pbmax]

Interesting interview with Bruce Arians; BEST QUOTE from his interview when asking about it

DEAR GOOTER; PLEASE ACCEPT THIS AS THE LAW

The biggest mistake you can make at the combine is to fall in love with somebody. Love the production. Love the Tape. But don't fall in love with somebody because of the numbers at the combine.


Funny his GM application got lost in the mail.

[Zool]

He's definately not going to score well on the masterbation drill then.

Masturbation drill can have 2 very different meanings.

[texaspackerbacker]

Just being in the drill means you aren't scoring well.

[Radagast]

Only 4 Badgers invited to combine. Strange. Michigan and Ohio St. each had 11.


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[pbmax]

Just being in the drill means you aren't scoring well.


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[RashanGary]

Quintez Cephus leads all WRs with 23 bench reps. Dude is built like Metcalf

[Joemailman]

Quintez Cephus leads all WRs with 23 bench reps. Dude is built like Metcalf

Gutey won't take him. He'll draft a center.

[wist43]

Curious to see what Gandy-Golden and Jefferson run tomorrow.

If Gandy-Golden runs well, where will his stock rise to??

Don't think Jefferson has the wheels to be a big-play threat, but I like his game.

[Bretsky]

Quintez Cephus leads all WRs with 23 bench reps. Dude is built like Metcalf


BEAST WHO PRODUCES

Most Talented and under utilized WR in Wisconsin

[mraynrand]

Quintez Cephus leads all WRs with 23 bench reps. Dude is built like Metcalf

Was he tops in the 3-cone? The standing broad jump? The vertical leap? If so, he'd be metacalf.

[pbmax]

Was he tops in the 3-cone? The standing broad jump? The vertical leap? If so, he'd be metacalf.

Groan.


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[mraynrand]

Groan.

I had my doubts about this one, but my writers insisted it was dynamite.

[pbmax]

I had my doubts about this one, but my writers insisted it was dynamite.

You have to take risks as an artist or you stagnate. I get it.

[Zool]

BEAST WHO PRODUCES

Most Talented and under utilized WR in Wisconsin

He’s a WR in Madison. If anything it’s surprising how many passes he caught. He’s not a RB or a TE.

[GB-Brandon]

Quintez Cephus leads all WRs with 23 bench reps. Dude is built like Metcalf

He is an absolute beast. Gonna be a STAR!!!!

Don’t blow it Gute!!!

[RashanGary]

He is an absolute beast. Gonna be a STAR!!!!

Don’t blow it Gute!!!

Can he adjust to NFL defenses mixed looks and be on the same page with QB1? There are some subtlties that go into NFL success that can't be predicted based on physical domination.

[RashanGary]

But he's interesting for sure, and the guys who watch Wisconsin football swear by him. I'll put some weight in that.

[texaspackerbacker]

Badger fan that I am, I don't want the Packers to go for Cephus the first or second day of the draft. Yeah, he will be a serviceable NFL receiver, maybe a little better than that, but I just don't see him as what the Packers need. He's just more of what we already have in Adams, Lazzard, etc. What we need is speed burner stretch the field Will Fuller or Tyreek Hill type - Reagor or Duvernay or somebody similar.

[Bretsky]

Badger fan that I am, I don't want the Packers to go for Cephus the first or second day of the draft. Yeah, he will be a serviceable NFL receiver, maybe a little better than that, but I just don't see him as what the Packers need. He's just more of what we already have in Adams, Lazzard, etc. What we need is speed burner stretch the field Will Fuller or Tyreek Hill type - Reagor or Duvernay or somebody similar.


I'll call you a dumbass but you've patented that a while back :))

Cephus is not like what we have. He's far more talented that Lazard and the rest of the groupies except for Adams. And he can get deep and win the jump ball. And i'd love to have two Devante Adams if that is what he ends up being

I would agree that we need a burner as well. But if you are a Badger fan whose watched all these games the I'm disappointed in your knowings of Cephus

[RashanGary]

I'll call you a dumbass but you've patented that a while back :))

Cephus is not like what we have. He's far more talented that Lazard and the rest of the groupies except for Adams. And he can get deep and win the jump ball. And i'd love to have two Devante Adams if that is what he ends up being

I would agree that we need a burner as well. But if you are a Badger fan whose watched all these games the I'm disappointed in your knowings of Cephus

Is he the kind of smart ar likes?

[Bretsky]

But he's interesting for sure, and the guys who watch Wisconsin football swear by him. I'll put some weight in that.


The only Badger WR's I saw with the similar to more talent were Lee Evans and maybe Chris Chambers

He's a beast. IF you gave him a QB and a pass first team his numbers would have been crazy

[Bretsky]

But he's interesting for sure, and the guys who watch Wisconsin football swear by him. I'll put some weight in that.


At first look I didn't like the Rashan Gary Pick. But I didn't hate it either. But then when I saw Fritz's reaction, the Michigan football fans I know, and the Michigan football forums all giving the same viewpoint.....I turned my feelings to hating the pick.

[Bretsky]

Is he the kind of smart ar likes?



I think Cephus has good football sense. Being honest here, I was 95% sure Cephus was transferring to Clemson. Some people more in the know than me in Madison knew he had opportunities to leave. And I figured he was out the door. What I learned is he was one of the most popular players on the football team and beloved by his teammates as a leader before and after he came back. I was still shocked he stayed, and as a guy who bleeds Badger I was heartbroken when I found out he was coming out early.

We have a great QB prospect in Graham Mertz and he's got severe talent as a passer. Redshirted last year. I was hoping I'd get one year to watch Mertz to Cephus light it up next year. Now we are seriously in search of WR help.

[Bretsky]

I think Cephus could get hurt a bit from his 40 time. I am guessing he runs in the high 4.5's. But he has separation speed and often turns the burners on late while ball is in the air. And he catches it as the top and wins jump balls. He's a guy in our backyard so we should have the inside info that he's beloved by teammates. He's the obvious Badger pick Ted would pass up and instead draft Robert Ferguson (on wait he did do that) and Kevin King :)

[Bretsky]

Last week of being home for knee replacement surgery. NFL Network dude today stated he has 27 WR's with round grades of 1-3 this year.

It sounds like this is a year where many could fall some and a great year to nab 2 or even three.

Who do we REALLY have that we need to keep ? I would say Devante Adams/the Lizard/maybe St James

The who cares awards go to MVS, Whitewater Jesus, Allison and I'm missing a J.A.G. or two perhaps

[run pMc]

Last week of being home for knee replacement surgery. NFL Network dude today stated he has 27 WR's with round grades of 1-3 this year.

It sounds like this is a year where many could fall some and a great year to nab 2 or even three.

Who do we REALLY have that we need to keep ? I would say Devante Adams/the Lizard/maybe St James

The who cares awards go to MVS, Whitewater Jesus, Allison and I'm missing a J.A.G. or two perhaps

I think you're thinking of Allison.
I would be in favor of them drafting an Adams clone AND a shifty burner. Adams is 27 with 2 years left on his contract, they need to start developing more legitimate receiving talent for the post-to-late Rodgers era.
MVS and ESB should be on notice (and on the bubble). Kumerow can block but if he's so great why doesn't he play more snaps or get more targets? Lazard is the WR2 by default because of the rest of the WR, and he was cut at the end of camp.

[GB-Brandon]

Badger fan that I am, I don't want the Packers to go for Cephus the first or second day of the draft. Yeah, he will be a serviceable NFL receiver, maybe a little better than that, but I just don't see him as what the Packers need. He's just more of what we already have in Adams, Lazzard, etc. What we need is speed burner stretch the field Will Fuller or Tyreek Hill type - Reagor or Duvernay or somebody similar.

Round 1 Reagor and Round 3 Cephus and “we’re set” at receiver for the rest of Rodgers career.

We’ve been doubling down on defense and DB’s for years. It’s time to get some “REAL TALENT” at receiver other then Adams.

“NO MORE BLUE LIGHT SPECIALS AT K-MART PLEASE!!!”

Edit: Sign AJ GREEN TOO! I want the good old days back at Lambeau!!

[RashanGary]

The salary cap is a relentless bitch. Ya load up on WR and the ILB/DL weakness gobbles up your SB shot.

It's a tough league that's for sure. Especially when you're competing with Mahomes on his rookie deal and Lamar too.

[RashanGary]

TE Albert Ok...... Missouri ran a 4.49 today. Que the, moving up boards conversation

[RashanGary]

I hope Cephus runs a 4.55 or better. I want to get on board.

[GB-Brandon]

Cephus just dropped to “Day 3”

[run pMc]

I hope Cephus runs a 4.55 or better. I want to get on board.

4.73 is not gonna get it done. G-Mo is faster. I expect he'll run faster at his pro day, but that's not good.

[run pMc]

Looking forward to seeing what Duvernay, Hamler, Reagor and Ruggs run.

[Joemailman]

Justin Jefferson 4.44:whaa:

[wist43]

Can somebody post the WR times?? Are they running now??

[wist43]

Justin Jefferson 4.44:whaa:

Cool... he's one of the guys I like.

Can u let me know what Gandy-Golden runs??

[Joemailman]

4.73 is not gonna get it done. G-Mo is faster. I expect he'll run faster at his pro day, but that's not good.

6 TE's ran better.

[RashanGary]

Receivers were already deep and guys who weren't expected to blaze are blazing.

I'm hoping from my OT

[Joemailman]

Chase Claypool of Notre Dame at 6-4, 238 ran a 4.45. That's a shocker. A lot of people think or thought he needs to be a TE.

[RashanGary]

Receivers who weren't expected to blaze, on fire. Already deep class looking deeper.

OT round 1, move up for a WR in round 2

[RashanGary]

Chase Claypool of Notre Dame at 6-4, 238 ran a 4.45. That's a shocker. A lot of people think or thought he needs to be a TE.

Similar build and speed as megatron. He got a vert yet?

[Joemailman]

Cool... he's one of the guys I like.

Can u let me know what Gandy-Golden runs??

4.60

[Joemailman]

Looking forward to seeing what Duvernay, Hamler, Reagor and Ruggs run.

Duvernay ran a 4.40. Tied for best at WR so far.

[RashanGary]

The WRs are making this draft year at pick 30 look good. I don't like taking a WR in round 1 usually, i believe bigs are rare but at 30, probowlers are rare so the WRa are making this draft a safe one for us even at 30

[RashanGary]

Justin Jefferson would look good in the slot!

[run pMc]

This is the only semi-reliable one I've found for WR times being posted so far that isn't a Twitter feed.
https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/WR

[Joemailman]

Cephus among WR's so far was 1st in the bench press and last in the 40. Not where you want to be.

[RashanGary]

John hightower had a really big year at boise state and ran a 4.43.

Those are a couple feathers in the cap for a draftable WR

[RashanGary]

This is the only semi-reliable one I've found for WR times being posted so far that isn't a Twitter feed.
https://walterfootball.com/combine/weighin/WR

Nfl.com has a nice tracker

[RashanGary]

When are the rest of the Wrs gonna run?

[Bretsky]

Cephus among WR's so far was 1st in the bench press and last in the 40. Not where you want to be.


Danget; I kinda thought it would be 4.5and a high number

[RashanGary]

Danget; I kinda thought it would be 4.5and a high number

Anquan Bolden ran a 4.7 but he's the only good one I can remember.

Is Cephus the type of player who is so good at evetything football related it doesn't matter??

He might still play in the league and produce

[RashanGary]

Ceedee lamb runs a 4.51

Could slip to us

[Bretsky]

Anquan Bolden ran a 4.7 but he's the only good one I can remember.

Is Cephus the type of player who is so good at evetything football related it doesn't matter??

He might still play in the league and produce


I still believe he will. He's a punishing blocker and strong. He gets off the LOS due to his strength and runs good patterns. And he wins the jump balls. It is funny you bring up Boldin; one of the posters in here (think it might have been GM Brandon) said early on Boldin was his best comparison.

[Joemailman]

Ruggs 4.28

Reagor 4.47

[RashanGary]

Lotta highly productive playmakers showing up and running fast. That big year for WRs is going as advertised. Lamb and Jefferson are two guys id love at 30

[Bretsky]

Ceedee lamb runs a 4.51

Could slip to us

I don't think we have a prayer this that; I still think he turns out like Sterling Sharpe. If he's there in the 20s I'd move up. But I think hes gone by 15

[Bretsky]

I'm watching NFL Network now; just say Lamb's second try

Anybody know if Cephus has run the seoond one yet ??

[Bretsky]

Dezel Mims 4.39

[Joemailman]

Lotta highly productive playmakers showing up and running fast. That big year for WRs is going as advertised. Lamb and Jefferson are two guys id love at 30

Lamb might be top 10. Cardinals could take him at 8. He played with Kyler Murray and was coached by Kingsbury at Oklahoma.

[RashanGary]

Laviska shanault lost some of his luster tonight.

Ceedee lamb has a chance of slipping a little

Jefferson shot himself probably out of our reach

[RashanGary]

It'll be interesting what the combine does to the mock drafts. Some guys gonna jump...

4.51 for lamb, thatd be great if he slipped.

[RashanGary]

It's rare to see a wr run a 4.51 and go high in the draft. Lamb isn't even big.

We'll see though. I love his highlight reel and the things said about him. He'd be a steal at 30

[GB-Brandon]

Ruggs 4.28

Reagor 4.47

Reagor came in built like a tank with 18 more solid pounds of muscle though. They both jumped 42 inches. I’ll take Reagor(bigger and just as explosive) who is starting to look like a faster version of Deebo Samuel.

Reagor is are guy.

[GB-Brandon]

The guy with the fast 40 time I’m starting to like more is Quez Watkins. Really fast and good after the catch and can also go up and get the ball. Reminds me of Paul Richardson coming out.

[GB-Brandon]

It's rare to see a wr run a 4.51 and go high in the draft. Lamb isn't even big.

We'll see though. I love his highlight reel and the things said about him. He'd be a steal at 30


Lamb isn’t making it to 30. He might be the best all around receiver in the draft.

[GB-Brandon]

Laviska shanault lost some of his luster tonight.

Ceedee lamb has a chance of slipping a little

Jefferson shot himself probably out of our reach

I think your overacting a little with these 40 times. Straight line speed is great but there is a lot more that goes into it. It’s not as simple as just drafting the guy with the fastest 40 time.

[Radagast]

Lamb isn’t making it to 30. He might be the best all around receiver in the draft.

I agreed with you 4 months ago.

[Bretsky]

JORDAN LOVE falls to pick 30

Do you take him there ??

[GB-Brandon]

Cephus among WR's so far was 1st in the bench press and last in the 40. Not where you want to be.

He looked really good in Field drills and his jumps were good(twitchy). He needs to break 4.6 at his pro day. As it is I love getting him on day 3. Lots of “Value” there.

[GB-Brandon]

JORDAN LOVE falls to pick 30

Do you take him there ??

No

[Bretsky]

Trust the production; trust the tape.

[Bretsky]

No

Last two mock's I saw both had GB taking a QB

I could see Jordan Love; but not the Washington QB there

[GB-Brandon]

I agreed with you 4 months ago.

Well if you continue to draft “combine warriors” only then you run the risk of drafting the Rashan Gary’s and Oren Burks of the world.

[GB-Brandon]

Last two mock's I saw both had GB taking a QB

I could see Jordan Love; but not the Washington QB there

I actually like Eason better then Love. Eason throws a really nice deep ball. Love failed to impress me much throughout the season but maybe it was due to “other things”.

Either way I would be extremely disappointed if they drafted a QB at 30.

[Bretsky]

I actually like Eason better then Love. Eason throws a really nice deep ball. Love failed to impress me much throughout the season but maybe it was due to “other things”.

Either way I would be extremely disappointed if they drafted a QB at 30.


Love was really dam good as a sophomore when he had a surrounding cast. I like his skillset better. I'd be disappointed as well.

Next year is another good year to nab two franchise QB's.

We're actually getting to the point where nearly all of the teams are pretty set at QB.

[Bretsky]

Jerry Jeudy and CeeDee Lamb are really really elite WR's. I think they both tear it up in the NFL

[Bretsky]

NFL Network thinks Jordan Love is headed to upper half of first round.

DAM, THINK OF THE SHIT WE COULD DRAFT WITH THIS YEAR"S PICK #12 !!!!!!

[RashanGary]

Ya think jefferson shot past us too? He looks good

[Bretsky]

Ya think jefferson shot past us too? He looks good

I think we have a shot at Jefferson

Most are projecting him going between 20 to 30 range. My guess is he doesn't fall him but or the Colorado WR would be really nice to land at 30

[call_me_ishmael]

JORDAN LOVE falls to pick 30

Do you take him there ??

Can't say I've ever even heard of this dude. What's his deal? Why would some small school QB go so high?

I hear that Herbert isn't very accurate but has everything else, so that's a big no for me. Eason is supposed to be pretty legit I guess but who knows.

[RashanGary]

Ceedee lamb ... Im curious to see his 3 cone and shuttle. He sure looks quick as a whip out there.

But 40 and vert... 4.51 and 34.5

He sure underwhelmed on day one

Would love to see him slip a little

[RashanGary]

I guess he performed just well enough to still trust the tape tbkhfb. Not awful, just not very good either

[Joemailman]

It'll be interesting what the combine does to the mock drafts. Some guys gonna jump...

4.51 for lamb, thatd be great if he slipped.

That isn't going to hurt Lamb at all. Elite speed was never a reason he was in the top 10 to begin with.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/ceedee-lamb/zOr0q2XkCO


BEST TRAIT - Ball Skills, Body Control

WORST TRAIT - Straight Line Speed

RED FLAGS - None

NFL COMP - DeAndre Hopkins

[call_me_ishmael]

Lamb is freaky deaky lookin' even if this empty drill.

https://twitter.com/Peter_Bukowski/status/1233253685645529096

For me personally, though, if we have a very good #1 in Adams (I am not totally convinced we do, I think he's a little bit overrated and more of premier #2 than a premier #1), do you really need a WR in R1? Unless the value is there, I'd try to get a more premium position like OT is value is there.

[GB-Brandon]

Ceedee lamb ... Im curious to see his 3 cone and shuttle. He sure looks quick as a whip out there.

But 40 and vert... 4.51 and 34.5

He sure underwhelmed on day one

Would love to see him slip a little

He is going top 12 most likely. Calvin Ridley ran a 4.4 and jumped 30 inches and still went in 1st round.

The combine is just one piece of the evaluation process. There are great Football players that are really good athletes just like there are very bad football players who are supreme athletes. The trick is being able to process it all correctly.

[GB-Brandon]

Lamb is freaky deaky lookin' even if this empty drill.

https://twitter.com/Peter_Bukowski/status/1233253685645529096

For me personally, though, if we have a very good #1 in Adams (I am not totally convinced we do, I think he's a little bit overrated and more of premier #2 than a premier #1), do you really need a WR in R1? Unless the value is there, I'd try to get a more premium position like OT is value is there.

That would be fine but the Packers have failed to get legit no.2 trying to do so by drafting WR’s on day 3 and hoping for UDFA’s to develop for quite some time now.

We don’t pick again until pick 62 so they might have to address the position in 1st if the right guy is there.

[run pMc]

That isn't going to hurt Lamb at all. Elite speed was never a reason he was in the top 10 to begin with.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/ceedee-lamb/zOr0q2XkCO

Agree. Lamb's numbers aren't terrible and don't really do anything to drop him. He's still WR1 or WR2 in the draft, right there with Jeudy.
I think if anyone might drop it's Reagor, and only slightly. For a guy who is supposedly a burner I think there was some expectation he'd test better in the 40 and 3-cone. His vert & broad jumps were very good though, and he still did ok overall but if you go only by the combine numbers (and I don't) he didn't stand out like, say, Denzel Mims.

[mraynrand]

He is going top 12 most likely. Calvin Ridley ran a 4.4 and jumped 30 inches and still went in 1st round.

The combine is just one piece of the evaluation process. There are great Football players that are really good athletes just like there are very bad football players who are supreme athletes. The trick is being able to process it all correctly.

yep. I would also look to the receiver that has the highest scores in ESP and parapsychology. The WR who can read Rodger's minds is far more valuable than 0.2 in the 40.

[Deputy Nutz]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver. This 40 time really sunk Cephus. His other numbers we very decent to above average for his position.

Reagor showed out and had some decent numbers I think he might move into the top tier the wolf pack of 3 may have just turned into a wolf pack of 4.

When everyone else is running and participating it should be a black eye for guys like Higgins from Clemson when they don't participate in the combine or Jefferson from Florida. There were definitely guys that bumped their draft stock at their expense. Higgins was a fringe day 1 guy and Jefferson was fringe second round pick. Hamler from Penn St didn't run either. Hamler needed to run at the combine because of his size he needs to prove his speed and quickness are legit enough to be considered at the end of the first round to the middle of the second round.

No one has mentioned the complete domination of the Combine by Donovan Peoples-Jones. 4.48, 44.5 vertical, and 139 broad jump. His film is a bit erratic, but he might now be in the conversation for a high second round pick.

[mraynrand]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver.

It does set him up as the logical successor to Geronimo Alison.

[Deputy Nutz]

If I was Cephus, I would want to get the hell out of Wisconsin.

[Deputy Nutz]

http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#day=thursday

[Deputy Nutz]

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/zack-baun-nfl-combine-2020

Nice little article on Baun

[call_me_ishmael]

OMG I cannot believe Cephus ran a 4.73. For all the positive buzz I heard about 40 times yesterday, I am surprised I didn't hear that negative time mentioned. Is he Anquan Boldin?

[run pMc]

Lamb's numbers probably drops him below Ruggs and Jeudy, but he is still in the top tier of receivers.

Cephus really hurt himself with a 4.73 forty. That is a really bad number. It won't prevent him from being drafted, but unless he can run something much faster on his pro day in Madison he will be lucky to be selected in the 4th round. 4.7s usually mean you don't go drafted as a receiver. This 40 time really sunk Cephus. His other numbers we very decent to above average for his position.

Reagor showed out and had some decent numbers I think he might move into the top tier the wolf pack of 3 may have just turned into a wolf pack of 4.

When everyone else is running and participating it should be a black eye for guys like Higgins from Clemson when they don't participate in the combine or Jefferson from Florida. There were definitely guys that bumped their draft stock at their expense. Higgins was a fringe day 1 guy and Jefferson was fringe second round pick. Hamler from Penn St didn't run either. Hamler needed to run at the combine because of his size he needs to prove his speed and quickness are legit enough to be considered at the end of the first round to the middle of the second round.

No one has mentioned the complete domination of the Combine by Donovan Peoples-Jones. 4.48, 44.5 vertical, and 139 broad jump. His film is a bit erratic, but he might now be in the conversation for a high second round pick.

I'd take Lamb over Ruggs. I think both are real good but Lamb just looks so smooth and has really good ball skills. He looks like a pro.
Cephus had a mixed day, some of his work was excellent but that 40 time is going to scare some teams. He'll need to run a 4.55 to be considered a R4 pick and with the depth of the WR group that might be very optimistic.
Yeah, DP-J had a very good day. IIRC Van Jefferson didn't run because he has a foot injury. I'm honestly not sure why Hamler and Higgins decided not to run - AFAIK they aren't injured, and even if you don't run fast in the 40 you have your Pro Day to rerun it. (Cephus) It certainly tightens things a bit as far as comparing WRs but I think Higgins is still probably safe. I know he has some electric film, but Hamler's size would remove him from my board. WRs that small don't last very long, and if he's always hurt he's not going to be nearly as effective.

[pbmax]

Trust the production; trust the tape.

So says Marty Schottenheimer, so say we all!

[Deputy Nutz]

Trust the production; trust the tape.

Jeff Okudah said that Cephus was the best receiver that he played against

[RashanGary]

The lamb college tape was fun to watch. But so was Reggie Bush.

NFL defensive backs are bigger than lamb, faster and the final straw will be if he runs only decent in the agility drills because NFL DBs might be more agile than he is too. Meaning he'd have no redeaming physical trait to avoid getting smoked. Even if he did get away with it in college.

I'm gonna wait till the agility drills, but boy, you hate to spend a top 20 pick on a 198 pound receiver with just decent speed. He's a safe bet to be good, but so are Reagor and Jefferson and about 5 others.

High picks, you want big guys or rare athletes who can ball. Lamb can ball. So hes a round 1 guy, but I think you can do better near the top.

[RashanGary]

Jeff Okudah said that Cephus was the best receiver that he played against

That's the kind of talk people had for Bolden all those years ago. Said he was the best football player they've played against..... You heard a lot of that. Cephus might look good in the slot, if he's a heady, smart, tough dude who can create separation in tight spaces.... Ala hines Ward or Bolden. Kind of a throw back. But he better be football savvy

[RashanGary]

And i only bring up lamb because id love for him to slip to us. I think he'd be great in the slot, especially with AR cuz AR might be the best QB in the league at not getting his guys killed and Lamb is gonna need that. He's slight and average speed. He's not gonna want to be getting lined up for kill shots.

The new NFL helps a guy like lamb too, so maybe that slight frame won't hurt as bad as Im used to seeing it hurt guys

[RashanGary]

If Cephus is savvy and the blocker guys say, hes sort of a slot compliment to a team that likes to run the ball too.

[Deputy Nutz]

Cephus had a much better 20 yard shuttle then Jeudy and several other receivers that had faster times. Cephus has all the right traits just not a good 40 time.

[Deputy Nutz]

The lamb college tape was fun to watch. But so was Reggie Bush.

NFL defensive backs are bigger than lamb, faster and the final straw will be if he runs only decent in the agility drills because NFL DBs might be more agile than he is too. Meaning he'd have no redeaming physical trait to avoid getting smoked. Even if he did get away with it in college.

I'm gonna wait till the agility drills, but boy, you hate to spend a top 20 pick on a 198 pound receiver with just decent speed. He's a safe bet to be good, but so are Reagor and Jefferson and about 5 others.

High picks, you want big guys or rare athletes who can ball. Lamb can ball. So hes a round 1 guy, but I think you can do better near the top.


Lamb is bigger than Jeudy by 5 pounds and Jeudy ran a 4.45. Lamb is also an inch taller at 6'2".

I don't either one exactly separated themselves from the top tier of receivers in this draft.

[RashanGary]

There are a whole bunch of good receivers. I don't know if the depth will last till the end of the 2nd round, but it sure might.

We're in a safe spot at 30. If we can't get Queen or an OT, there is no excuse for not getting a really good player cuz we could grab a WR who's a damn good bet to be good.

[RashanGary]

Lamb is bigger than Jeudy by 5 pounds and Jeudy ran a 4.45. Lamb is also an inch taller at 6'2".

I don't either one exactly separated themselves from the top tier of receivers in this draft.

A couple guys who had huge years but weren't expected to run well showed up and ran well. The ND kid and the LSU guy. Reagor was big, fast and explosive.... Yeah, it's more of a cluster fuck at the top now. Hard to separate them. And i think a couple guys are entering into the conversation with their big junior and senior seasons plus big combines. The ND dude has megatron like physical talent and had a huge year

[GB-Brandon]

Cephus had a much better 20 yard shuttle then Jeudy and several other receivers that had faster times. Cephus has all the right traits just not a good 40 time.

I agree. He is twitchy and that is more important then straight line speed IMO. He can separate in short spaces and is very strong going up and grabbing 50/50 balls which shows up on his tape.

Like I’ve been posting “If you Like James Jones then your gonna Love Quintez Cephus”

He’ll be fine if he can break 4.7 at his pro day.

[Zool]

23 reps on the bench is pretty impressive.

[RashanGary]

Mechi Bechton (or whatever )

Weighed in at 365, 6'7" with a 7' wingspan and ran a 5.11. que the moving up draft boards conversation

[RashanGary]

My guy joshua jones ran a below average 5.28 40 at 318. Not horrible, but hopefully bad enough to make the guys in front of us pass.

[RashanGary]

Tristan wirfs runs 4.85 and jumps 36.5" at 320 pounds. OMG!

[RashanGary]

Joshua Jones testing just right for us to have a chance at him. Average 40. Decent jumps. Big dude, moves well on the football field but not testing so well that he's gonna move up. Just well enough to feel good about him as an athlete but not so much to enamour anyone.

[Cheesehead Craig]

JT with the 4.39 40 yd dash

[Radagast]

JT with the 4.39 40 yd dash


JT ?

Is this the 1941 Japanese Naval Code or are you just plain lazy?

If you are trying to communicate then do so so all can fully understand your post ! JT could just as easily stand for Justin Timberlake.

[texaspackerbacker]

Anybody who belongs in this forum knows which JT he is talking about.

[mraynrand]

JT could just as easily stand for Justin Timberlake.

No. No, it could not. He's over a decade past his college years. He does not play football. He was not invited to the combine.

If this was your attempt at sarcasm, it sucks donkey balls.

[Radagast]

... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ... ---

.--- - !

[Radagast]

James Taylor, Jim Taylor, Jessie Taylor, Japan Tobacco, ...

[Bretsky]

JT with the 4.39 40 yd dash

HAIL TO THE BADGERS AND JONATHON TAYLOR

I'D LOVE TO SEE THE CHIEFS DRAFT HIM IN ROUND ONE !

[Radagast]

HAIL TO THE BADGERS AND JONATHON TAYLOR

I'D LOVE TO SEE THE CHIEFS DRAFT HIM IN ROUND ONE !


Who's this guy ? What position does he play ? Is he an Offensive Tackle ?

[mraynrand]

Who's this guy ? What position does he play ? Is he an Offensive Tackle ?

:roll:

[pbmax]

Cephus had a much better 20 yard shuttle then Jeudy and several other receivers that had faster times. Cephus has all the right traits just not a good 40 time.

Just like Aaron Jones' forty is barely better than Jamaal Williams but in initial burst and speed in a hole, Jones is clearly superior.

[ThunderDan]

JT with the 4.39 40 yd dash


JT ?

Is this the 1941 Japanese Naval Code or are you just plain lazy?

If you are trying to communicate then do so so all can fully understand your post ! JT could just as easily stand for Justin Timberlake.

Funny, I googled that and got hits from all over the combine coverage.

[Bretsky]

Who's this guy ? What position does he play ? Is he an Offensive Tackle ?

He's the RB who would have broken nearly every rushing record in the NCAA had he stayed for his Senior Year at Wisconsin

[pbmax]

Funny, I googled that and got hits from all over the combine coverage.

A true gentleman doesn’t google, he demands strangers tell him where the sun is in the sky.

[pbmax]

Warren Sharp
🚨🚨 Jonathan Taylor 4.39 official 🚨🚨

Faster than Saquon & fastest of any 225lb+ RB in the last 7 combines

[hoosier]

Warren Sharp
���� Jonathan Taylor 4.39 official ����

Faster than Saquon & fastest of any 225lb+ RB in the last 7 combines

Who the &*^&^% is Saquon???? Does not PR code require use of first AND LAST name???

[mraynrand]

Who the &*^&^% is Saquon???? Does not PR code require use of first AND LAST name???

We need to clean this place up. It’s getting sloppy in here.

[Radagast]

I don't hold a parade every year for any particular College or University. If this Jonathan Taylor is really as good as you all say, then he will prove it at the next level as others have. I had never heard of Terrell Davis or Jerome Bettis or Eric Dickerson until they proved themselves as pros. Just attending Wisconsin is not enough. The next star might come from Colorado or Alabama or New Jersey.

[RashanGary]

I don't hold a parade every year for any particular College or University. If this Jonathan Taylor is really as good as you all say, then he will prove it at the next level as others have. I had never heard of Terrell Davis or Jerome Bettis or Eric Dickerson until they proved themselves as pros. Just attending Wisconsin is not enough. The next star might come from Colorado or Alabama or New Jersey.

You should make a manual for what we're allowed to think and say. It would help us from veering so far off course.

Thank you for bringing true knowledge to the group. We'd be lost without you.

[Zool]

I don't hold a parade every year for any particular College or University. If this Jonathan Taylor is really as good as you all say, then he will prove it at the next level as others have. I had never heard of Terrell Davis or Jerome Bettis or Eric Dickerson until they proved themselves as pros. Just attending Wisconsin is not enough. The next star might come from Colorado or Alabama or New Jersey.

You are a hellova guy. Would it stand to reason that a large portion of a message board dedicated to pro football in Wisconsin would also follow the college team from the same state?

FFS (that’s for fucks sake) stop being an asshole.

[Radagast]

You should make a manual for what we're allowed to think and say. It would help us from veering so far off course.

Thank you for bringing true knowledge to the group. We'd be lost without you.

If you want to campaign for Wisconsin, or Rashan Gary, or the Tooth Fairy then that's your choice, but don't throw mud because everyone does not agree with you. Present a supportable case for your post and not just Rah Rah Rah.

If you can defend Rashan Gary then defend him. Attacking opposition posters for disagreeing with you is not a defense of your case. It makes you sound like the Circus Buffoon that keeps claiming innocence as he proceeds from one scandal to the next. He too can't defend his actions, so he tries to divert attention from a failed series of legal/unethical episodes.

If you don't like my post that call for sticking to the thread theme, then start your own thread for your subject. If you don't like it when others don't understand your post, then present post that can be understood. Example: Jonathon Taylor (JT) RB from Wisconsin did well at the NFL Combine

[ThunderDan]

If you don't like my post that call for sticking to the thread theme, then start your own thread for your subject. If you don't like it when others don't understand your post, then present post that can be understood. Example: Jonathon Taylor (JT) RB from Wisconsin did well at the NFL Combine

Except you were the asshole who bitched about someone who posted something exactly about a 40 time by a participant in the 2020 combine that is completely germaine to this thread.

[Zool]

If you don't like my post that call for sticking to the thread theme, then start your own thread for your subject. If you don't like it when others don't understand your post, then present post that can be understood. Example: Jonathon Taylor (JT) RB from Wisconsin did well at the NFL Combine

If you don't like how this place is run, find another place.

[texaspackerbacker]

Jonathan Taylor was the best RB in college football last season by a wide margin. He apparently is looking more than decent in combine drills too. There's good reason to believe he won't go the way of Ron Dayne or Montee Ball in the NFL. He really ought to be the first RB drafted, I'd love to have the Packers get him - but of course that ain't gonna happen, as we don't need a RB, especially not drafted early.

[pbmax]

Love this board.

Some Random Twitter Combine Guy
Willie Gay, LB, Mississippi State
6-1, 243

39.5 vert
11'6" broad
4.46 40

Absolute freak

[hoosier]

Love this board.

Some Random Twitter Combine Guy
Willie Gay, LB, Mississippi State
6-1, 243

39.5 vert
11'6" broad
4.46 40

Absolute freak

LB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[RashanGary]

Queen 4.50 and Murray 4.52. Both fit the mold of recent probowl linebackers in the NFL by meeting the minimum speed threshold for their size.

So neither is limited. If you like the tape, i think there is enough upside to pull the trigger on either at 30.

[ThunderDan]

Queen 4.50 and Murray 4.52. Both fit the mold of recent probowl linebackers in the NFL by meeting the minimum speed threshold for their size.

So neither is limited. If you like the tape, i think there is enough upside to pull the trigger on either at 30.

They aren’t getting to 30.

[wist43]

Love this board.

Some Random Twitter Combine Guy
Willie Gay, LB, Mississippi State
6-1, 243

39.5 vert
11'6" broad
4.46 40

Absolute freak

His tape doesn't look good... takes a lot of bad angles. Not as bad as Burks, but still a problem.

[Zool]

His tape doesn't look good... takes a lot of bad angles. Not as bad as Burks, but still a problem.

Hard to tell if he takes bad angles as a pro, he never sees the field.

[call_me_ishmael]

They aren’t getting to 30.

My hot take: Good. What off-the-ball linebacker has been worth a first round pick and is a genuine game changer and player that single handedly changes outcomes? I may be blanking and they may exist, but I am just thinking LB in round 1 isn't that smart - especially since they're so in demand now.

[Radagast]

Except you were the asshole who bitched about someone who posted something exactly about a 40 time by a participant in the 2020 combine that is completely germaine to this thread.

Gee I all broken up over you and zool. Afterall you make up or spin things to fit your need. I just lie awake at night worrying over your post. Slang, abbreviations, and or acronyms that are not understood are no better than code. Shortening things down to Caps without explanation is, IMO, just being lazy.

It's not the readers responsibility to have decipher others attempt at communication. As for my post, I never complained over a players combine performance, I did however take exception to incomplete information and assuming that all should know what is being referenced. Is it that difficult to try to be better writers. Also it's no crime to just be a Packer fan. I don't care a flying donut about the U. of Wisconsin, or Ohio, or Minnesota. I do like certain top college players and their school is not important to me at all. As for school, a few members here could stand to attend a few semesters of basic college English.

[texaspackerbacker]

"Is it that difficult to try to be better writers."

"a few semesters of basic college English"

Gosh, Radagast, wouldn't that just be a big waist. They probably wouldn't even learn when to use a question mark.

[Radagast]

"Is it that difficult to try to be better writers."

"a few semesters of basic college English"

Gosh, Radagast, wouldn't that just be a big waist. They probably wouldn't even learn when to use a question mark.



I'll be the first to say that my post are not perfect at all times. The idea is to communicate without sending the reader off to do in depth research to understand a post. Assuming that everyone should know an abbreviation, slang term, or an acronym. I've become aware of the strong ethnic bias in this forum. Please don't ask me to Latino, Black, or a Texan. Is it really that difficult to type out a few extra words to communicate a position/opinion. I try to overlook a lot of the 9th grade writing and the 4th grade attempts at humor. Lazy writing is not good writing and can be improved upon.

[RashanGary]

It's all about you, radagast

Use thos supeereor righting skills 2 right our manuel

[pbmax]

Zach Baun


https://relativeathleticscores.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/zack-baun-ras-18282.png


Athletic, but more agile than explosive.

[pbmax]

Murray


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER_EY5pXkAInd6e?format=png&name=900x900

[pbmax]

Belichick visits Tyshun Render

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- Quick-hit thoughts and notes around the New England Patriots and NFL:

1. Middle Tennessee visit creates a buzz: Four pictures of Patriots coach Bill Belichick working out Middle Tennessee defensive end/outside linebacker Tyshun Render on Monday spread quickly on social media. A rain-soaked Belichick putting a projected late-round draft pick through drills served up a reminder of his passion and attention to detail for the nitty-gritty parts of the job at age 67.

https://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4819406/bill-belichick-makes-an-impression-on-visit-to-middle-tennessee

[run pMc]

Murray

That's WR levels of explosion and athleticism in a 240 pound LB.

[pbmax]

Peter Bukowski @Peter_Bukowski
Reported #Packers interviews/meetings with possible first-round players

WR Justin Jefferson
WR Jalen Reagor
WR Laviska Shenault
OT Josh Jones
RB JK Dobbins
iDL Ross Blacklock
LB Zack Baun
LB Kenneth Murray
LB Patrick Queen
CB AJ Terrell

Peter Bukowski @Peter_Bukowski
Reported #Packers interviews/meetings with possible Day 2 players

C Cesar Ruiz
iDL Raekwon Davis
iDL Justin Madubuike
iDL Jordan Elliott
EDGE Terrell Lewis
EDGE Curtis Weaver
S Ashtyn Davis
S Antoin Winfield
LB Malik Harrison
LB Jordyn Brooks
LB Troy Dye

[RashanGary]

Wist and Nutz, got an opinion on logan Wilson ILB Wyoming ??

[RashanGary]

Wilson had a really good college career where he played the run and pass equally well. Was called a try hard guy but then went in and was a senior bowl stand out. 10 career interceptions. Said to be a stand out tackler. Leader.

Wasn't expected to impress at combine but checked all the boxes as being a good athlete. Fast, agile, explosive enough. Big enough

Sleeper?

I don't know how to evaluate lb tape as much . Don't know the traditional lb assignments

[RashanGary]

Logan Wilson RAS has him In the green with a 9.1 overall. Good size. Good explosion. Good agility. Great speed. Just a complete athlete with no weak area. Combined with a damn fine college career and the senior bowl.

Good omens there. But again, id wanna hear the guys who break tape give an opinion

[RashanGary]

Cut Graham. Let Bulaga and Martinez go

Sign Hooper (expensive) and Burafict (cheap)
RD 1 Josh Jones OT
RD 2 Michael Pittman WR
RD 3 Logan Wilson ILB

[run pMc]

The ILBs ran well -- a lot of sub 4.7 40 times.

[RashanGary]

The ILBs ran well -- a lot of sub 4.7 40 times.

I was excited to see that. Lots of guys being called try hard and play faster than they time showed up and timed good too.

Especially that wyoming kid, logan Wilson

[RashanGary]

Receivers showed up too. If you really want your ILB, might have to move up in the 2nd round. WR could probably be had in the 3rd

[pbmax]

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Among the teams most interested in Florida International quarterback James Morgan after a strong NFL scouting combine: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New York Jets, Carolina Panthers and Indianapolis Colts

MY INITIAL REACTION TO THIS IS THAT ITS A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN, TRYING TO GET WR AND OT AND LBs TO DROP TO THEM

[run pMc]

Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL
Among the teams most interested in Florida International quarterback James Morgan after a strong NFL scouting combine: Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New York Jets, Carolina Panthers and Indianapolis Colts

MY INITIAL REACTION TO THIS IS THAT ITS A DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN, TRYING TO GET WR AND OT AND LBs TO DROP TO THEM

Yeah the buzz on him is he's late R3 to R4 guy now because of his arm and some intangibles. A raw prospect to groom for a year or two into a backup or Garopolo.

[run pMc]

Cut Graham. Let Bulaga and Martinez go

Sign Hooper (expensive) and Burafict (cheap)
RD 1 Josh Jones OT
RD 2 Michael Pittman WR
RD 3 Logan Wilson ILB

At this point I'd say Josh Jones is a good get at 30, but I think you're overdrafting Pittman and Wilson. I like Pittman (haven't watched Wilson) but I think both will go a round later than you have them.
What happened to your Troy Dye crush? :)

Vontaze Burfict is a walking pandemic of suspensions, and he can't cover either. Also, he's kind of an asshat (laughed as he was ejected for leading with helmet, which cost him the whole year). I'd rather they resign BJ Goodson over Burfict, and I'm no Goodson fan. If you're going to sign a big ILB FA and draft a fast guy, would you prefer Dye to Wilson, at least in R3?

I'm against signing Hooper for silly money. Paying $10M a year for a guy who (according to PFF) ran mostly drag/flat routes is a lot. He's not great in contested catch scenarios and not a great separator.
https://www.thefalcoholic.com/2020/2/6/21123414/pff-warns-not-to-overpay-austin-hooper-falcons-free-agency-contract-extension

[Deputy Nutz]

Interesting article on the NFL Combine on the effects of the 3 cone drill on receivers and how many of them should just skip it along with all the other agility drills

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-combine-dk-metcalf-jalen-reagor-three-cone-wide-receiver-nfl-draft

[Cheesehead Craig]

This place is so much fun at times.

[call_me_ishmael]

I tend to agree that Hooper is overrated. But he did excellent for my fantasy team so who am I to complain.

[run pMc]

I tend to agree that Hooper is overrated. But he did excellent for my fantasy team so who am I to complain.

LOL understood. I think he's good, but I wonder if he's worth paying $10M a year to catch 3 out of 4 throws to him a game. I have doubts that Rodgers/MLF will use him they way ATL did.

I guess if you're looking at it as cutting Graham and giving Hooper the same amount of money then it's not so bad.

[RashanGary]

I watched about 10 or so falcon games last year. Hooper was really impressive to me. Tough, competitive, reliable dude

[Bretsky]

I watched about 10 or so falcon games last year. Hooper was really impressive to me. Tough, competitive, reliable dude


I would agree; he's the guy who does all the little things right as well. Jimmy for Hoops to me is a huge upgrade and we're stable at TE for a few years.

I'm not pounding the table for him; as long as we cut Jimmy and use the money wisely it'll be a huge upgrade somewhere

[Bretsky]

FUNNIEST ANSWER AT COMBINE



Trey Adams had his privacy violated this weekend, but he gained a ton of fans and popularity in the process.

A video of Adams answering a question at the NFL Combine was leaked on Twitter. In the video, Adams is asked “if you could change anything about yourself, what would it be?”

Adams, who was a two-time All Pac-12 offensive tackle at Washington, takes some time to think of his answer. Then he chuckles to himself and casually says, “bigger d–k.”

The humorous answer got some laughs before the questions proceeded.

Such videos/interviews from the Combine are supposed to be confidential, which is why many within the industry were upset.

[wist43]

Hooper's production came mostly on drag routes and sitting in zones.

He can't beat coverage on his own; hence, pass on him in FA.

[texaspackerbacker]

I agree. He's not much if any better than what we have three of - four if you count Graham.

[pbmax]

Hooper's production came mostly on drag routes and sitting in zones.

He can't beat coverage on his own; hence, pass on him in FA.

You should credit PFF if you use their stuff.

[Joemailman]

What PFF says about Hooper:

https://www.pff.com/nfl/free-agency


Hooper has developed into a solid receiving option, but he's more of a dependable, complementary piece rather than a mismatch creator. Since 2016, Hooper has gained 75.5% of his receiving production on targets defined as holes in zones or underneath the defense (think drag routes, flat routes) - by far the highest percentage in the league. Add to it that Hooper has just a 58.9 receiving grade against single coverage since 2016, and it's clear that his production has largely been a product of the situation in Atlanta. All that said, Hooper is a mid-tier run blocker who can take advantage of being surrounded by good playmakers on the outside, and he has value as a complementary piece in the passing game.

Better than Graham at this point, but worth 10 million, if that really is the market? I'm not so sure.

[wist43]

You should credit PFF if you use their stuff.

He's always been that... nothing new.

[run pMc]

Better than Graham at this point, but worth 10 million, if that really is the market? I'm not so sure.

This is my issue. I suppose you could roughly swap out Graham's salary for Hooper by cutting Graham, and get an in-prime TE who would be a good fit in MLF scheme. That part I'm ok with. I think Sternberger has potential, and if they sign Hooper could have a 1-2 punch.
Hooper is not Kelce or Kittle, and is at best a Top 10 TE. He will be paid like a Top 5 TE. (Actually, if he signs for 5/50, I believe he'll be the top paid TE; you always overpay in FA.)

I've considered if they be better off signing Emmanuel Sanders for 2/18M and finding a late round/cheap FA TE who is a glorified 6th OL that can occasionally flare out for a 4 yard out? (Maybe that's Marcedes Lewis.) Am thinking about a Foster Moreau type (or DickRod type who can actually block).
Sanders has averaged about 66-831-4 over the last 4 years, those are decent for a WR but would be very good numbers for a TE. My thinking is there are very few elite TEs and it might be easier/cheaper to get the same production with a WR. Over time I'm not so sure about this anymore, depending on the TE... but if you look at the list of TEs and their contracts it's pretty ugly (Cameron Brate: 6/40M, Jack Doyle: 3/21M). Compared to some of these, Austin Hooper for 5/50M might not be bad.

[run pMc]

For reference, Blake Martinez combine stats:

Ht: 6015
Wt 237
Hand: 10
Arm 31 5/8
Wingspan: 76 5/8

Bench: 22
Vert: 28.5
Broad: 9'5"
20y SS: 4.2
3-cone 6.98
40 time: 4.71 (20y split: 2.73, 10 split: 1.61)

Sat on his combine stats except for the vert jump, which was 34 at his pro day.

[RashanGary]

Jason Witten had a pretty good career sitting in zones. Hooper can block and find soft spots in zones. He's a good player.