Official Packers/Falcons Week 4 Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Falcons champions of the 4th quarter collapse. Worse, they have the league's 2nd worst passing defense going up against Aaron Rodgers. Falcons can be dangerous though if they get Julio Jones back.

[texaspackerbacker]

They're better than their record. Ryan always has been and still is a good QB, and they have Gurley, who is still a decent RB. Their D has gotten worse, though.

[bobblehead]

Hopefully we don't need them to collapse. Pack has not gotten behind much so far through 3 weeks, not even to a superior roster and team that is a serious contender like the Saints. I guess we have just been dumb lucky so far.

[George Cumby]

Trap game.

[RashanGary]

Pretty sure Grady Jarrett is out. He might be their best player. If Clark and Adams are back we have a huge edge, even with Julio.

[Upnorth]

Trap game.

I was thinking the same.

[Tony Oday]

Keke gets a 6 this week with a cool dance :)

[Joemailman]

Trap game.

Playing in empty stadiums I think there are a lot of trap games.

[Fritz]

It's Monday night. The crowd will be the big difference maker here.

Which leads to my question: when I watch a game, I hear crowd noise. Clearly, that's for us fans. But do they play that same noise in the stadiums? So the players at least hear something other than "Blue 19! Blue 19!"?

[GB-Brandon]

Atlanta's defense is right there with Seattle's as the worst in the NFL. I mean they have Demontae Kazee at Safety. They will probably have Juilo back. Dan Quinn getting fired and on his way out.

I'm gonna take it but i'm gonna take it @ -6.

[Joemailman]

It's Monday night. The crowd will be the big difference maker here.

Which leads to my question: when I watch a game, I hear crowd noise. Clearly, that's for us fans. But do they play that same noise in the stadiums? So the players at least hear something other than "Blue 19! Blue 19!"?

Players hear noise, but not the same fan noise you hear on your TV.


At least to start its 2020 season, the NFL is doing both. Those inside the stadium will hear a steady stream of fake crowd noise from the public address system, and those watching on TV will hear a different feed of fake crowd noise on the broadcast.

[George Cumby]

Players hear noise, but not the same fan noise you hear on your TV.

It's gotta' be a surreal experience for the players.

[Joemailman]

Looks like no Kirksey for a while.


According to Rob Demovsky of ESPN, Kirksey’s shoulder injury is likely to keep him out of next week’s game against the Atlanta Falcons and he’s not guaranteed to be ready coming out of the Packers’ Week 5 bye.

Kirksey left Sunday night’s win over the New Orleans Saints with an undisclosed shoulder issue. He played 17 snaps in the first half before departing.

The Packers played Ty Summers, Krys Barnes and Oren Burks at inside linebacker with Kirksey out of the game.

Through three games, Kirksey leads the Packers with 27 total tackles.

[texaspackerbacker]

As I said, addition by subtraction.

[hoosier]

Hopefully we don't need them to collapse. Pack has not gotten behind much so far through 3 weeks, not even to a superior roster and team that is a serious contender like the Saints. I guess we have just been dumb lucky so far.

Pack lulls the opponent to sleep with its inferior receiving corps. Then Rodgers elevates receivers game. Deadly 1-2.

[MadScientist]

Pack lulls the opponent to sleep with its inferior receiving corps. Then Rodgers elevates receivers game. Deadly 1-2.

Plus the scheme isn't so stale that I know if it's a run or pass by the formation, so even average receivers have a chance.

Time to burn Atlanta like it's 1864.

[Fosco33]

Kirksey our multiple games. Time for cm3 return? He’d have to do it for free w/ his 2m rams paycheck offset this year

[GB-Brandon]

We all knew the Kirksey injury was coming. No surprise really. He hasn’t stayed healthy in years.

[George Cumby]

Plus the scheme isn't so stale that I know if it's a run or pass by the formation, so even average receivers have a chance.

Time to burn Atlanta like it's 1864.

lol

[Joemailman]

Kirksey our multiple games. Time for cm3 return? He’d have to do it for free w/ his 2m rams paycheck offset this year

No. Will this be the Summers of our discontent?

[Fritz]

Players hear noise, but not the same fan noise you hear on your TV.

So I wonder who gets to control the level of noise getting piped in. Cuz if it's up to the teams, then in Seattle and New England the coaches will have the volume turned up to 12 on a scale of 1-10 when the opponent has the ball.

I would hope the NFL is regulating this.

And why not take it further? You could have coaches choose individually what each player hears, and give everyone a set of headphones. Then The Flower could have disdainful crowd comments playing in Aaron Rodger's ear constantly ("You suck Rodgers! You're over the hill!"), and the guy would play at an MVP level.

Wait, maybe that's what's already happening!

[run pMc]

No. Will this be the Summers of our discontent?

Possibly. There's film of him now so teams might find ways to expose him. I'm cautiously optimistic he will be at least ok, and I trust him more than Burks.
ATL is a mess right now - GB is better on both sides of the ball IMO.
If Julio doesn't play, this game should easily go GB's way. He's the only player they have that worries me -- without him Ryan has nobody to feed the ball to outside of Gurley, and his days are behind him.

[run pMc]

So I wonder who gets to control the level of noise getting piped in. Cuz if it's up to the teams, then in Seattle and New England the coaches will have the volume turned up to 12 on a scale of 1-10 when the opponent has the ball.

I would hope the NFL is regulating this.

And why not take it further? You could have coaches choose individually what each player hears, and give everyone a set of headphones. Then The Flower could have disdainful crowd comments playing in Aaron Rodger's ear constantly ("You suck Rodgers! You're over the hill!"), and the guy would play at an MVP level.

Wait, maybe that's what's already happening!

I believe the NFL has said it can't be louder than 70dB, which is not that loud. It is also different from the crowd noise heard over the TV broadcast.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-broadcasts-2020-fake-crowd-noise-explained/73nq9jby87yi1em47p84enrre
https://www.iacacoustics.com/blog-full/comparative-examples-of-noise-levels.html

[HarveyWallbangers]

I believe the NFL has said it can't be louder than 70dB, which is not that loud. It is also different from the crowd noise heard over the TV broadcast.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-broadcasts-2020-fake-crowd-noise-explained/73nq9jby87yi1em47p84enrre
https://www.iacacoustics.com/blog-full/comparative-examples-of-noise-levels.html

I think they may have bumped it up to 80dB last week.

[texaspackerbacker]

Either Rodgers should shut up about being so happy with the silence, or else he's just baiting them to turn up the volume - kinda the "Brer Rabbit in the briar patch" thing, if any of ya'all are old enough to remember that.

[run pMc]

I think they may have bumped it up to 80dB last week.

I think I read that somewhere too, but played it safe with 70dB. I think they bumped it up because it was like a tennis match in those dome games.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

A few members of the Titans just tested positive. Will there be football this week?

[Joemailman]

A few members of the Titans just tested positive. Will there be football this week?

Only 8 so far. This is why they have 16 member practice squads this year. There's some talk of moving the game to Monday night.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Only 8 so far. This is why they have 16 member practice squads this year. There's some talk of moving the game to Monday night.

Things could get out of control if the Queens got it, too.

2020 is a shitty year.

[Upnorth]

Things could get out of control if the Queens got it, too.

2020 is a shitty year.

0 cases on the queens as of yet

[Joemailman]

I'm more worried about the Packers. Tons of cases in Brown County now. I wonder what Packers are planning for players during bye week. Let them return home? Quarantine in Green Bay? Ship them off to Montana?

[Upnorth]

The bubble worked for nhl and NBA. Why would nfl not go that route???

[Freak Out]

Bubble them. Far to much fun and money at stake here.

[Upnorth]

Whats the word on adams Clark etc with practice?

[Joemailman]

Whats the word on adams Clark etc with practice?

I read that because they had a Sunday night road game, they won't practice until Thursday.

[RashanGary]

Lazard out with a core injury. Getting looked at by a specialist to see if he needs surgery per Matt schneidman and bob demovsky. Gonna be seeing even more big bob and jace coming up.

Davante looks to be back, so that's good.

Gonna be lots of running and play action in our near future with some efficient passing and staple MVS bombs. Lazard will be missed for however long he's out. Damn! Might be our first long term injury of the year! Fuck!

[RashanGary]

It wouldn't be the worst if it's like 8 weeks. Get him back and work him into shape leading into the playoffs. A season ender would be a tough pill to swallow though.

[RashanGary]

Sports hernia surgery has a time table of 8-12 weeks before gradual return to sports.

4 weeks jogging
8 weeks moderate practice
10 weeks maybe full practice
12 weeks part time player
14 weeks maybe fill time


Ugh, that's week 17 of the season. We might have him as a rotational player in the playoffs if he has surgery

[RashanGary]

Star players
Adams
Jones

Guys 12 has some time with
MVS
Big Bob
Jamal
Swerv
Jace
Shepherd

Rookie role players
Deguara
Dillon

It's not as bad as losing Adams or Jones, but still a hit. Lazard brought a lot of that run/pass stuff to life with his versatility. Jace, Bob and Deguara have shown similar blocking aptitude. But lazard was a rare elite blocker who could also really win deep.

[Joemailman]

Lazard out with a core injury. Getting looked at by a specialist to see if he needs surgery per Matt schneidman and bob demovsky. Gonna be seeing even more big bob and jace coming up.

Davante looks to be back, so that's good.

Gonna be lots of running and play action in our near future with some efficient passing and staple MVS bombs. Lazard will be missed for however long he's out. Damn! Might be our first long term injury of the year! Fuck!

Tough year at that position. Starting with Funchess opting out, you could argue Packers have now lost 3 of their top 4 WR's. I wonder if Robert Foster could be a surprise callup from the PS. He at least has some experience. Had a good rookie year at Buffalo in 2018. Don't know why things went south for him in 2019.

[pittstang5]

Sports Hernia? No bueno. If that's the case and requires surgery, he's done for the year.

That's a big blow. Adams, even if he plays Monday, will he be 100% - probably not. So we're left with butterfingers MVS and a bunch of nobodies at WR. No bueno again.

[RashanGary]

MVS
Shepherd
Swerv

Big Bob Tonyan
Jace
Deguara

All gonna share lazards role.

[RashanGary]

Malik Taylor strikes me as a red shirt guy. Don't think he's gonna play much

[RashanGary]

I have a feeling Tonyan and Jace are gonna combine for quite a bit of playing time and yards this year. Maybe deguara too, once he's back.

[Fosco33]

Shit

[Joemailman]

Malik Taylor strikes me as a red shirt guy. Don't think he's gonna play much

I wouldn't bet on that. Spent all of last year on PS so he knows the offense. Beat the odds to make the team this year. Unlike Shepherd, he has the size to be effective blocking.

[Sparkey]

The shear volume of injuries throughout the league this year as crazy. I guess camp and preseason games are needed.

[Fosco33]

J’mon Moore and Trevor Davis are available packer draftees in last 4 years.

[texaspackerbacker]

I'd take Trevor Davis over Tyler Ervin as a returner and WR. The only thing lacking is ability to play RB, and we have plenty of them.

[bobblehead]

Kirksey our multiple games. Time for cm3 return? He’d have to do it for free w/ his 2m rams paycheck offset this year

I would love to bring Clay back to play ILB. He isn't the guy he was, but I bet he still plays serviceable at that position.

[bobblehead]

J’mon Moore and Trevor Davis are available packer draftees in last 4 years.

Moore never showed a thing. Davis would be interesting, but I think Ervin is filling the Davis role. Someone said Kumerow and that would be the appropriate replacement. Similar game. Similar size. Older with less upside, but as a stopgap he might be the best solution.

[RashanGary]

Injury report gonna be Interesting this week. Clark and Adams are difference makers. Pretty sure Grady Jarrett is out and a bunch of secondary players. Packers ball control offense limits opposing teams opportunities. And the no.turnover thing makes teams have to be perfect. Even in a shootout, I like the packers chances

[RashanGary]

Lafleur coaching g the he'll out of ball security this week. Lions and falcons love to get the ball. Rodgers owns his ball security but the rest of the guys need to be 100. Minus turnover or.penalty destruction, I.don't see Atlanta keeping up

[run pMc]

Ervin > Davis. Moore is probably out of the league. Kumerow is a maybe. MVS is not an efficient receiver, but he can pressure defenses with his deep speed. That should help keep things open underneath.
I expect a lot of passes to the TEs and RBs in this one. GB can borrow from NO's plan to throw to the RB and let them go to work.
Having Adams back would be extremely helpful but I think they'll be careful with him and give him this week and the bye to get back to 100%.

[run pMc]

The other thought is this is the game where we see 40 rushing attempts, including 8 from Dillon. The defense will need to step up too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wouldn't bet on that. Spent all of last year on PS so he knows the offense. Beat the odds to make the team this year. Unlike Shepherd, he has the size to be effective blocking.

You can be small and be a good blocker (see Hines Ward). Shepherd had to block a lot at NDSU, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's at least adequate at it.

[Joemailman]

Green Bay Packers rookie quarterback Jordan Love was the lone addition to the team’s injury report on Friday.

Love didn’t practice on Friday due to an unspecified illness. The Packers didn’t place him on the COVID-19 reserve list according to Friday’s transaction wire, so the illness could be unrelated.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjWeWtrXkAAvWk2?format=jpg&name=medium.

[texaspackerbacker]

Ervin > Davis. Moore is probably out of the league. Kumerow is a maybe. MVS is not an efficient receiver, but he can pressure defenses with his deep speed. That should help keep things open underneath.
I expect a lot of passes to the TEs and RBs in this one. GB can borrow from NO's plan to throw to the RB and let them go to work.
Having Adams back would be extremely helpful but I think they'll be careful with him and give him this week and the bye to get back to 100%.

How is Ervin better than Davis? While in Green Bay, Davis showed a lot more breakaway speed on returns, and he looked great at times catching passes (even though it was just preseason, I think). Ervin can run from scrimmage, which Davis never did, except maybe end arounds. We have a lot of other quality RBs, though.

This argument is probably moot, as the team probably is satisfied with Ervin and not considering Davis, but personally, I like Davis better.

[Joemailman]

How is Ervin better than Davis? While in Green Bay, Davis showed a lot more breakaway speed on returns, and he looked great at times catching passes (even though it was just preseason, I think). Ervin can run from scrimmage, which Davis never did, except maybe end arounds. We have a lot of other quality RBs, though.

This argument is probably moot, as the team probably is satisfied with Ervin and not considering Davis, but personally, I like Davis better.

You're remembering the 2017 Davis. He hurt his hamstring in 2018. He's been signed and released by 3 teams in the last year.

[RashanGary]

Without Adams and Clark I give us about a 50/50

Just Clark 70/30
Just Adams 80/20

Both back 95/5

[RashanGary]

If Julio gets a 6 year healthy run of 1200 yard seasons, hed be three more 1000 yard seasons away from rice.

Absence of 18 game seasons with two bye weeks, that one might be untouchable

[run pMc]

You're remembering the 2017 Davis. He hurt his hamstring in 2018. He's been signed and released by 3 teams in the last year.

Davis is super talented, makes occasional spectacular play (usually a punt return) only to follow up with a bonehead play like a muffed punt, or a case of alligator arms on a throw from Rodgers. Ervin technically ran the 40 faster and is a more consistent player. He's also a better fit for MLF's offense and likely explains why Davis was traded last year even though the WR room wasn't exactly stocked.

I had my hopes Davis would turn out. He obviously didn't, or else you'd think 1 of the 3 teams he played for last season would've signed him. It's telling that he's still on the street while Ervin is running jet sweeps and returning kicks.

That said, I think Ervin is replacement level. He's certainly not a starter. They can probably find someone to do what he does, but I think they like his positional flexibility as PR/RB/WR and how they can use him in the offense.

[RashanGary]

Teams around the league falling apart with injury, and we’re about to be there too of some of these turn into season Enders.

Short off season
Abrupt ramp up to season
No schedule breaks
Injuries....

It’s not bad yet.... guys almost in football shape, just need a week off to recover and start the season after the bye healthy. Leave everyone out. Probably Drop one. Plan for the long haul cuz most teams gonna keep losing guys with no bye week to get right

[run pMc]

If Julio and Ridley play, this is a much different game. Well, if Julio plays. Ridley is very good also, but Julio has had some insane games against GB.
They've blown some leads, but they've also scored the 6th most points so far, so their offense is good enough to get a lead.

Not calling this a trap game, but ATL could certainly come in a upset the GB. At 0-3 they will be salty and should give GB their best shot.
Pettine's defense is less than the sum of its parts right now, and if Adams can't go it means the WRs are most likely decoys and blockers.
Maybe this is the game Darrius Sheppard redeems himself with a fuckdoggle.

All that said, GB should win this game...they are a better coached, more talented team top to bottom, and they're at home FWIW.

[Joemailman]

Ugly injury report.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjbmoWNXYAIsA5F?format=jpg&name=medium

[Joemailman]

Lazard, Kirksey placed in IR.

[texaspackerbacker]

A bunch of good players "questionable".

Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Jones aren't on that list. Therefore, Packers 45 Falcons 16

[Patler]

Trevor Davis is a disaster waiting to happen. The Packers and several other teams gave him chances, because of the natural athletic ability he has. He never showed himself to be reliable fielding punts or kickoffs, never generated confidence in his decision making as a returner and never established a niche as a receiver.

I see no reason for GB to bring Davis back. I would rather that they give a chance to someone else, if need be.

[Sparkey]

Begelton or Foster for the game day ps call up ?

[Joemailman]

J.K. Scott was out with illness. Packers could be forced to sign a punter. And Crosby could have a new holder. Lots of moving parts going into this game.

[Upnorth]

J.K. Scott was out with illness. Packers could be forced to sign a punter. And Crosby could have a new holder. Lots of moving parts going into this game.

Easy way to overcome scott is to score every drive. I think thats what the packers should do....

Seriously I am feeling concern about this game. If we have lost our top 2 and they get Julio back then no Clark etc...
This team had 2 15 PT leads going into the 4th. Yes they collapsed but prior to that they had the lead without Julio.

[Joemailman]

Easy way to overcome scott is to score every drive. I think thats what the packers should do....

Seriously I am feeling concern about this game. If we have lost our top 2 and they get Julio back then no Clark etc...
This team had 2 15 PT leads going into the 4th. Yes they collapsed but prior to that they had the lead without Julio.

Julio though is questionable too with a hamstring. I wouldn't want to have to place a bet on this game.

[RashanGary]

Easy way to overcome scott is to score every drive. I think thats what the packers should do....

Seriously I am feeling concern about this game. If we have lost our top 2 and they get Julio back then no Clark etc...
This team had 2 15 PT leads going into the 4th. Yes they collapsed but prior to that they had the lead without Julio.

We’re potentially missing a whole bunch of guys.

[Joemailman]

My biggest concern right now is that Ridley and Julio might be able to play and Jaire might not.

[RashanGary]

Jaire, Clark (Gurley is looking tough), Adams, Lazard

It’s tough losses at tough places.

It’s not just the Packers starting to look beat up beyond recognition. It’s the whole league. The reason I’d be ok with resting everyone going into the bye and probably dropping one is because after the bye we’ll be one of the only teams really rested and in football shape for the rest of the season. The other teams, theoretically would continue to see fatigue injuries until they get a break, something the nfl schedule doesn’t allow for.

[RashanGary]

We also have six of the last 8 at home, when fans may be back

After the bye it’s 123 49ers on Thursday.
49ers, fatigued, beat up, week 9 with no bye to rest, Thursday, short rest. That’s a great schedule to beat our worst matchup team.

We also see Tampa just out the bye. Decent chance they’re beat up.

And bears twice in the last 7 weeks.


It’s really not a bad schedule other than that. And the NFL is seeing what seems like record season Enders so the schedule might look even better as time goes on if we can get a grip on this fatigue injury thing.

Like I said, I’ll be feeling pretty good if we get out of this next one healthy, even if it’s a L. I’d feel a lot better about health and a L than two season Enders and a win.

[Upnorth]

Health is more of a concern league wide than I can ever remeber. I was expecting a little more illness misses this year but actual injury are through the roof. Perhaps this will reduce the desire to reduce the preseason a bit.

As to facing the 9ers they are going to heal over the next 4 weeks and we will be catching them once many of there starters are back. Still the hardest game on our schedule imo.

If we are short Clark and Alexander our d should get to play in the big ten

[texaspackerbacker]

Somehow, I doubt the Packers staff is nearly as worried as a lot of people in here. Notice all those "questionables" - they don't seem to use the label "probable" any more. Questionable generally means about 50/50, but undoubtedly a lot of those new things where the guy played most of the game last week would be probable and way better than 50/50. I mean Jaire, Scott, Linsley, Ervin, Zadarius, etc.

We'll be fine. R E L A X !

[RashanGary]

I’d rest everyone and just drop one if it happens. Get everyone back after the bye and be close to 100% plus start the new season in football shape.

Clark
Alexander
Davante
Gary
Z
Lindsley

Rest em all and come back in week 6 ready to rumble with a huge health advantage

[Joemailman]

The Green Bay Packers and Atlanta Falcons have a new starting time on “Monday Night Football.”

The NFL pushed back the start of the primetime showdown to 7:50 p.m. CT to accommodate the rescheduling of the matchup between New England Patriots and Kansas City Chiefs, which was moved to Monday. The Patriots and Chiefs will kickoff at 6:05 p.m. CT.

I'm not sure why they needed to do that. What's the difference? The first game will still be going on when the Packers game starts.

[RashanGary]

Full second half of the game is better than them coming over when it's almost over. And catching the halftime show is a little summary of what happened so it primes the audience to stick around to see the finish.

[MadScientist]

I'm not sure why they needed to do that. What's the difference? The first game will still be going on when the Packers game starts.

It increases the length of time where viewers aren't split so that maximum advertising dollars can be charged.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Health is more of a concern league wide than I can ever remeber. I was expecting a little more illness misses this year but actual injury are through the roof. Perhaps this will reduce the desire to reduce the preseason a bit.



What the fuck are you talking about? They didn’t even play a single preseason game and injuries are still “through the roof.”

Could it be that the lack of preseason games is why the players aren’t totally prepared for the hard knocks life of the regular season? Or could be it that some players are just milksop and can’t be counted on to play every fucking game - cough, Fresno Fraud, cough -?

[Upnorth]

What the fuck are you talking about? They didn’t even play a single preseason game and injuries are still “through the roof.”

Could it be that the lack of preseason games is why the players aren’t totally prepared for the hard knocks life of the regular season? Or could be it that some players are just milksop and can’t be counted on to play every fucking game - cough, Fresno Fraud, cough -?

So thats what I said. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. So what the fuck are you not reading?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

So thats what I said. Perhaps you should reread what I wrote. So what the fuck are you not reading?

Fuck, I stand corrected...except for the part about some players being milksops.

[RashanGary]

Reduce the desire to shorten the preseason. As in, it shows that the preseason is good for getting guys physically ready by slowly getting into football shape. Then teams give starters a full week off before the season. They’re healthy, rested and in football shape to start the regular season.

This bye, if we don’t push our beat up, already compromised players on the field.... this bye will give them the rest they need to be in football shape, rested, and ready for a long season.

[RashanGary]

I’d like to see Dillon brought into this one. Block everyone except Dione Jones and let Dillon battering ram into him a couple times and see what happens.

[SudsMcBucky]

Davante Adams out for tonight.

[Joemailman]

Davante Adams out for tonight.

Julio Jones and Ridley expected to be active. Falcons with a decided advantage there.

[Joemailman]

Sounds like maybe Adams not happy with the decision:


In case the tweet from Adams gets deleted, here’s the full, unedited copy: “Sorry fans and friends I wont be on the field tonight. I’ve done everything I need to do and proved Im ready but I guess I don’t know my body as well as others. Good luck out there my boys”

[RashanGary]

Sounds like maybe Adams not happy with the decision:

Hmmm..... Yeah. In Clarks interview I got the impression he wanted to play even last week. Said it was a minor strain and that he prepared to play.


The only thing I do like about the lafleur way is we were one of the healthiest team's in the league last year. And I'm very curious to see if the caution approach can quell this bad start and allow us to be one of the healthiest again.

[bobblehead]

Davante and Lazard out. Julio and Ridley in. If we pull this one off it'll be a small miracle.

[RashanGary]

Davante and Lazard out. Julio and Ridley in. If we pull this one off it'll be a small miracle.

There is still a shot. Coin flip maybe. If Clark plays, our chances of getting some second or third and longs goes up.

[run pMc]

Davante and Lazard out. Julio and Ridley in. If we pull this one off it'll be a small miracle.

Doesn't seem like the odds have moved that much. They show GB(-6), so maybe the bookies know something. I hope they do. ;)
Not going to be easy game. The defense will have to come out ready to play, and the RB/TE will need to step up for Rodgers.

Should be good indicator of the coaching.

[Joemailman]

Last week Saints bracketed MVS and used their stout run defense to keep Jones in check but got burned by Lazard. This week there's no Lazard. However, Falcons run defense isn't nearly as good as Saints. If Packers win this game, Jones will likely be the story both in the run and pass game.

[RashanGary]

Last week Saints bracketed MVS and used their stout run defense to keep Jones in check but got burned by Lazard. This week there's no Lazard. However, Falcons run defense isn't nearly as good as Saints. If Packers win this game, Jones will likely be the story both in the run and pass game.

I could see ATL running a similar plan, this time figuring Swerv, Big Bob, Jace and Shep won't be able to do what the lizard king did.

Big game by Jones. Huge game by Large Robert

[RashanGary]

The thing to remember is we won 4 straight without hazard or Adams last year. Big bob was injured, jace was dinged and out I believe. It was Allison and MVS.

We could be just fine

[RashanGary]

Guys playing who play well with 12

Jones
Williams
MVS
Large Robert

Guys who have a chance to make a name

Jace
Swerv
Shep
Malik (red shirt) taylor

[RashanGary]

Let's remember, we won a bunch of games with bad defense and worse offensive weapons around 12 in 2017 and 18 and won 4 straight without Lazard playing much and Adams last year.

[Joemailman]

The thing to remember is we won 4 straight without hazard or Adams last year. Big bob was injured, jace was dinged and out I believe. It was Allison and MVS.

We could be just fine

Lazard had no catches in the 1st game Adams missed last year. But he had 150 yards over the next 3. He was a factor.

[RashanGary]

It should also be noted that we have a really good chance of coming back healthy and having dodged the serious injury bug that is going around the NFL after the bye. We’re also strongly poised to compete for the 1 seed with or without a victory against Atlanta considering the schedules of us compared to SF and Seattle.

[Guiness]

Adams certainly sounds unhappy, hopefully he buys into that this is for long term good. Not saying he's right or wrong that he's ready to go, just that I hope he accepts the decision and doesn't hold a grudge about it. Last year the Pack was in very good shape health/injury-wise.

Wow though, who the hell is going to be catching the in the middle of the field and on intermediate routes tonight? Depth chart only lists 4 WRs, one of which is Adams. After MVS it's Sheppard and Malik Taylor <- 0 NFL catches

edit: Adams' tweet about being out has been deleted.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/05/davante-adams-deletes-tweet-about-being-out-on-monday/

[Joemailman]

Adams certainly sounds unhappy, hopefully he buys into that this is for long term good. Not saying he's right or wrong that he's ready to go, just that I hope he accepts the decision and doesn't hold a grudge about it. Last year the Pack was in very good shape health/injury-wise.

Wow though, who the hell is going to be catching the in the middle of the field and on intermediate routes tonight? Depth chart only lists 4 WRs, one of which is Adams. After MVS it's Sheppard and Malik Taylor <- 0 NFL catches

edit: Adams' tweet about being out has been deleted.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/05/davante-adams-deletes-tweet-about-being-out-on-monday/

This game will test the versatility Lafleur covets. I expect you'll see Jones, Tonyan, Sternberger and Ervin all lining up at various WR positions at times. Probably will see either Begelton or Foster elevated to roster.

[RashanGary]

This game will test the versatility Lafleur covets. I expect you'll see Jones, Tonyan, Sternberger and Ervin all lining up at various WR positions at times. Probably will see either Begelton or Foster elevated to roster.

Yep. Swerv, Jones and Williams all gonna spit out at times. Obviously gonna try to get big bob and jace involved.

I could see the package with both Jones/Williams on the field together brought out this week too. And Jones/Swerv and Williams/Swerv. Gonna be some personnel creativity tonight early and a riding the hot hands game identity develop from that.

[bobblehead]

There is still a shot. Coin flip maybe. If Clark plays, our chances of getting some second or third and longs goes up.

We can still win. We play D to stop the pass not the run. Atlanta passes without establishing the run. If Atlanta doesn't adjust we can win this. Also we need to control the clock early and take them out of their rhythm like we have so far all season.

[run pMc]

Agree the emphasis will be on run, and throws to the RB/TEs will be common. Tonyan, Jace, etc. Time of possession might matter in this game.

Also agree stopping the pass will be important; I don't want to see Gurley running free, but I sure as hell don't want to see Julio doing that.

[Fosco33]

Adams, Clark and Gary all out.

[Upnorth]

What happened to gary? X