You Stat Gurus out there

[Tony Oday]

How many QBs taken in the first round started and won a Super Bowl?

[Patler]

That's not a "stat", its trivia! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[Tony Oday]

I love lamp

[pbmax]

Super Bowl........Draft
Year........Winner/Loser....................Year......Round...Pick... Player.....Team
1967........Bart Starr, GB......................1956........17........7... .....200........Packers
1968........Bart Starr, GB......................1956........17........7... .....200........Packers
1969........Joe Namath, NYJ.................1965........1........1........ 1........Jets
1970........Len Dawson, KC.................1957........1........5........5 ........Steelers
1971........Earl Morrall, BAL...............1956........1........2........2. .......49ers
1972........Roger Staubach, DAL.........1964........10........3........129.... ....Cowboys
1973........Bob Griese, MIA.................1967........1........4........ 4........Dolphins
1974........Bob Griese, MIA.................1967........1........4........ 4........Dolphins
1975........Terry Bradshaw, PIT...........1970........1........1........1..... ...Steelers
1976........Terry Bradshaw, PIT...........1970........1........1........1..... ...Steelers
1977........Kenny Stabler, OAK...........1968........2........25........52... .....Raiders
1978........Roger Staubach, DAL..........1964........10........3........129... .....Cowboys
1979........Terry Bradshaw, PIT............1970........1........1........1.... ....Steelers
1980........Terry Bradwhaw, PIT..........1970........1........1........1...... ..Steelers
1981........Jim Plunkett, OAK...............1971........1........1........1. .......Patriots
1982........Joe Montana, SF..................1979........3........26....... .82........49ers
1983........Joe Theismann, WAS..........1971........4........21........99.... ....Dolphins
1984........Jim Plunkett, LAR...............1971........1........1........1. .......Patriots
1985........Joe Montano, SF..................1979........3........26....... .82........49ers
1986........Jim McMahon, CHI.............1982........1........5........5... .....Bears
1987........Phil Simms, NYG................1979........1........7........7 ........Giants
1988........Doug Williams, WAS..........1978........1........17........17.... ....Buccaneers
1989........Joe Montana, SF……...........1979... .....3........26........82........49ers
1990........Joe Montana, SF……...........1979... .....3........26........82........49ers
1991........Jeff Hostetler, NYG…..........1984........3........3 ........59........Giants
1992........Mark Rypien, WAS…..........1986........6........8 ........146........Redskins
1993........Troy Aikman, DAL..............1989........1........1........1.. ......Cowboys
1994........Troy Aikman,DAL...............1989........1........1... .....1........Cowboys
1995........Steve Young, SF.........1984 Sup USFL........1........1........1........Buccaneers
1996........Troy Aikman, DAL…..........1989........1........1 ........1........Cowboys
1997........Brett Favre, GB....................1991........2........6...... ..33........Falcons
1998........John Elway, DEN.................1983........1........1........ 1........Colts
1999........John Elway, DEN.................1983........1........1........ 1........Colts

2001........Trent Dilfer, BAL.................1994........1........6........ 6........Buccaneers
2002........Tom Brady, NE……............2000.. ......6........33........199........Patriots
2003........Brad Johnson, TB….............1992........9....... .3........227........Vikings
2004........Tom Brady, NE.....................2000........6........33.... ....199........Patriots
2005........Tom Brady, NE.....................2000........6........33.... ....199........Patriots
2006........Ben Roethlisberger, PIT........2004........1........11........11...... ..Steelers

edit: How'd Kurt Warner get in there? Corrected.

[pbmax]

Answer = 22 out of 40

Super Bowl........Draft
Year........Winner/Loser....................Year......Round...Pick... Player.....Team
1969........Joe Namath, NYJ.................1965........1........1........ 1........Jets
1970........Len Dawson, KC.................1957........1........5........5 ........Steelers
1971........Earl Morrall, BAL...............1956........1........2........2. .......49ers
1973........Bob Griese, MIA.................1967........1........4........ 4........Dolphins
1974........Bob Griese, MIA.................1967........1........4........ 4........Dolphins
1975........Terry Bradshaw, PIT...........1970........1........1........1..... ...Steelers
1976........Terry Bradshaw, PIT...........1970........1........1........1..... ...Steelers
1979........Terry Bradshaw, PIT............1970........1........1........1.... ....Steelers
1980........Terry Bradwhaw, PIT..........1970........1........1........1...... ..Steelers
1981........Jim Plunkett, OAK...............1971........1........1........1. .......Patriots
1984........Jim Plunkett, LAR...............1971........1........1........1. .......Patriots
1986........Jim McMahon, CHI.............1982........1........5........5... .....Bears
1987........Phil Simms, NYG................1979........1........7........7 ........Giants
1988........Doug Williams, WAS..........1978........1........17........17.... ....Buccaneers
1993........Troy Aikman, DAL..............1989........1........1........1.. ......Cowboys
1994........Troy Aikman,DAL...............1989........1........1... .....1........Cowboys
1995........Steve Young, SF.........1984 Sup USFL........1........1........1........Buccaneers
1996........Troy Aikman, DAL…..........1989........1........1 ........1........Cowboys
1998........John Elway, DEN.................1983........1........1........ 1........Colts
1999........John Elway, DEN.................1983........1........1........ 1........Colts

2001........Trent Dilfer, BAL.................1994........1........6........ 6........Buccaneers
2006........Ben Roethlisberger, PIT........2004........1........11........11...... ..Steelers

[Tony Oday]

Thats amazing over half...I didnt think that was even close to half but wow.

[Jayo]

DAUNTE CULPEPPER

[Zool]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler

[mmmdk]

DAUNTE CULPEPPER

...will never win a super bowl.

[jack's smirking revenge]

DAUNTE CULPEPPER

...should register for the Kentucky Derby. :smile:

tyler

[ahaha]

Also:

Quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame, who didn't win a superbowl, but were drafted in the first round.

Sammy Baugh
Sid Luckman
Otto Graham
Bobby Layne
Y.A. Tittle
Jim Kelly
Dan Marino

Peyton Manning has a good chance of making the Hall of Fame

* Lesson to be learned here -
If your team wants a star quarterback for the future, they should probably pick one in the first round.

[pbmax]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler
Last Super Bowl was 40, not 50. And some losing teams have used two QBs. My list doesn't give starter. The total who have started for both teams is 80, and number who have participated is at least 42.

And remember, Earl Morral started the Super Bowl 3 for the Colts because the actual starting QB (Unitas) was hurt.

[ahaha]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler
Last Super Bowl was 40, not 50. And some losing teams have used two QBs. My list doesn't give starter. The total who have started for both teams is 80, and number who have participated is at least 42.

And remember, Earl Morral started the Super Bowl 3 for the Colts because the actual starting QB (Unitas) was hurt.

Unitas started. He threw a touchdown on a fluke play where the ball bounced off of a couple of players before being caught by John Mackey who took it to the house. Unitas also threw two interceptions. He left the game with bruised ribs in the first half after a sack/fumble. Morrell then came in.

[jack's smirking revenge]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler
Last Super Bowl was 40, not 50. And some losing teams have used two QBs. My list doesn't give starter. The total who have started for both teams is 80, and number who have participated is at least 42.

And remember, Earl Morral started the Super Bowl 3 for the Colts because the actual starting QB (Unitas) was hurt.

Duh! You're totally right. Thanks for the correction. I'm not usually that bad with deciphering roman numerals. Too much coffee today.

tyler

[pbmax]

Super Bowl Losing QBs

Super Bowl..........Draft
Year..........Winner/Loser........................Year....Roundâ↚¬Â¦.Pick…Player......Team
1967..........Len Dawson, KC.....................1957..........1..........5. .........5..........Steelers
1968..........Daryle Lamonica, OAK..........1963..........24..........14......... .188..........Bills
1969..........Johnny Unitas, BAL................1955..........9..........5..... .....102..........Steelers
1970..........Joe Kapp, MIN........................1959..........18....... ...5..........209..........Redskins
1971..........Craig Morton, DAL.................1965..........1..........5.... ......5..........Cowboys
1972..........Bob Griese, MIA.....................1967..........1..........4 ..........4..........Dolphins
1973..........Bill Kilmer, WAS....................1961..........1..........11 ..........11..........49ers
1974..........Fran Tarkenton, MIN..............1961..........3..........1....... ...29..........Vikings
1975..........Fran Tarkenton, MIN..............1961..........3..........1....... ...29..........Vikings
1976..........Roger Staubach, DAL.............1964..........10..........3....... ...129..........Cowboys
1977..........Fran Tarkenton, MIN..............1961..........3..........1....... ...29..........Vikings
1978..........Craig Morton, DEN................1965..........1..........5..... .....5..........Cowboys
1979..........Roger Staubach, DAL............1964..........10..........3........ ..129..........Cowboys
1980..........Vince Ferragamo, LAR..........1977..........4..........7..........9 1..........Rams
1981..........Ron Jaworski, PHI..................1973..........2..........11.. ........37..........Rams
1982..........Ken Anderson, CIN................1971..........3..........15.... ......67..........Bengals
1983..........David Woodley, MIA.............1980..........8..........21....... ...214..........Dolphins
1984..........Joe Theismann, WAS.............1971..........4..........21....... ...99..........Dolphins
1985..........Dan Marino, MIA...................1983..........1..........27. .........27..........Dolphins
1986..........Steve Grogan, NE...................1975..........5..........12.. ........116..........Patriots
..................Tony Eason, NE.....................1983..........1..........15 ..........15..........Patriots
1987..........John Elway, DEN.................1983..........1..........1.... ......1..........Colts
1988..........John Elway, DEN...................1983..........1..........1.. ........1..........Colts
1989..........Boomer Esiason, CIN….........1984..........2........ ..10..........38..........Bengals
1990..........John Elway, DEN...................1983..........1..........1.. ........1..........Colts
1991..........Jim Kelly, BUF.......................1983..........1......... .14..........14..........Bills
1992..........Jim Kelly, BUF.......................1983..........1......... .14..........14..........Bills
1993..........Frank Reich, BUF...................1985..........3..........1.. ........57..........Bills
..................Jim Kelly, BUF.....................1983..........1..........1 4..........14..........Bills
1994..........Jim Kelly, BUF.......................1983..........1......... .14..........14..........Bills
1995..........Stan Humphreys, SD..............1988..........6..........22....... ...159..........Redskins
1996..........Neil O'Donnell, PIT................1990..........3..........17.... ......70..........Steelers
1997..........Drew Bledsoe, NE..................1993..........1..........1.... ......1..........Patriots
1998..........Brett Favre, GB......................1991..........2..........6 ..........33..........Falcons
1999..........Chris Chandler, ATL..............1988..........3..........21...... ....76..........Colts
2000..........Steve McNair, TEN................1995..........1..........3..... .....3..........Oilers
2001..........TKerry Collins, NYG.............1995..........1..........5........ ..5..........Panthers
2002..........Kurt Warner, STL..................undrafted
2003..........Rich Gannon, OAK................1987..........4..........14.... ......98..........Patriots
2004..........Jake Delhomme, CAR...........undrafted
2005..........Donovan McNabb, PHI..........1999..........1..........2..........2 ..........Patriots
2006..........Matt Hasselbeck, SEA............1998..........6..........34........ ..187..........Packers

[ahaha]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler
Last Super Bowl was 40, not 50. And some losing teams have used two QBs. My list doesn't give starter. The total who have started for both teams is 80, and number who have participated is at least 42.

And remember, Earl Morral started the Super Bowl 3 for the Colts because the actual starting QB (Unitas) was hurt.

I screwed up. You're right about SuperBowl 3. Morrall started and Unitas came in the fourth quarter. It was SuperBowl 5 where Unitas started and Morrall came in for him.

Unitas started. He threw a touchdown on a fluke play where the ball bounced off of a couple of players before being caught by John Mackey who took it to the house. Unitas also threw two interceptions. He left the game with bruised ribs in the first half after a sack/fumble. Morrell then came in.

[pbmax]

Well someone still has to figure out how many QB's have gone to the Super Bowl.

Doesn't each team have in the SB have a QB? So, that would be 100 QBs (since the last was XL), unless you want to count backups too....

tyler
Last Super Bowl was 40, not 50. And some losing teams have used two QBs. My list doesn't give starter. The total who have started for both teams is 80, and number who have participated is at least 42.

And remember, Earl Morral started the Super Bowl 3 for the Colts because the actual starting QB (Unitas) was hurt.

Unitas started. He threw a touchdown on a fluke play where the ball bounced off of a couple of players before being caught by John Mackey who took it to the house. Unitas also threw two interceptions. He left the game with bruised ribs in the first half after a sack/fumble. Morrell then came in.
Well, its Wikipedia, so it could be wrong, but...


Baltimore Colts
To many observers, the Colts were a surprise choice to make it to the Super Bowl because of the way they started the regular season. Starting quarterback Johnny Unitas, considered by some to be the best quarterback in NFL history, suffered an injury to his elbow on his throwing arm early in the season. His replacement, veteran backup Earl Morrall, had played for four different teams in 12 years and had never been a permanent starter on any of them. But Morrall surprised everyone by leading the Colts to a 13-1 record and winning the NFL Most Valuable Player Award. He threw for 2,909 yards and 26 touchdowns, with 17 interceptions, giving him the highest passer rating in the league (93.2) during the regular season. His performance was so impressive that Colts coach Don Shula decided to keep Morrall in the starting lineup after Unitas was healthy enough to play. Then, the Colts avenged their sole regular season loss against the Cleveland Browns by crushing them, 34-0, in the NFL Championship Game.

Game summary

New York entered the game with their primary deep threat, wide receiver Don Maynard, playing injured. But his 112-yard, two touchdown performance against the Oakland Raiders in the AFL championship game made the Colts defense pay him special attention, and Joe Namath was able to take advantage of single coverage on wide receiver George Sauer. Meanwhile, with the help of some fortunate plays, the Jets defense kept the Colts offense from scoring for most of the game.

The Jets took the opening kickoff and were forced to punt. Then on the Colts' first drive, they advanced the ball to the Jets' 19-yard line, aided by a 19-yard completion from Earl Morrall to tight end John Mackey on their first play. But after two incomplete passes and a quarterback run for no gain, they came up empty when defensive lineman/kicker Lou Michael's 27-yard field goal attempt went wide right.

With less than two minutes left in the period, Colts punter David Lee booted a 51-yard kick that pinned the Jets back at their own 4-yard line. Three plays later, Sauer caught a 3-yard pass from Namath, but fumbled while being tackled by defensive back Lenny Lyles, and Colts linebacker Ron Porter recovered it at New York's 12-yard line. However, on third down (the second play of the second quarter) Baltimore quarterback Earl Morrall's pass bounced off tight end Tom Mitchell, and was intercepted by Jets cornerback Randy Beverly in the end zone for a touchback. Starting from their own 20-yard line, Jets running back Matt Snell rushed on the next 4 plays, advancing the ball 26 yards. Namath later completed 3 consecutive passes, moving the ball to the Colts 23-yard line. Running back Emerson Boozer gained just 2 yards on the next play, but Snell followed it up with a 12-yard reception at the 9-yard line, a 5-yard run to the 4-yard line, and capped the drive with a 4-yard touchdown run. The score gave the Jets a 7-0 lead, and marked the first time in that an AFL team led in the Super Bowl.

On Baltimore's ensuing drive, a 30-yard completion from Morrall to running back Tom Matte helped the Colts advance to the New York 38-yard line, but they once again failed to score as Jets cornerback Johnny Sample broke up Morrall's third down pass and Micheals' missed his second field goal attempt, this time from 46 yards. Two plays after the Jets took over following the missed field goal, Namath's 35-yard completion to Sauer enabled to New York to eventually reach the Baltimore 32-yard line. But Namath then threw two incompletions and was then sacked on third down by Colts linebacker Dennis Gaubatz for a 2-yard loss. New York kicker Jim Turner tried to salvage the drive with a 41-yard field goal attempt, but he missed.

On their ensuing possession, Baltimore reached New York's 16-yard line, aided by Matte's Super Bowl record 58-yard run. But with 2 minutes left in the half, Morrall was intercepted by Sample at the 2-yard line. The Jets then were forced to punt on their ensuing drive, and the Colts advanced the to New York's 42-yard line. Baltimore then tried a flea flicker play which had a huge impact on the momentum of the game. Matte ran off right tackle after taking a handoff, then pitched the ball back to Morrall. The play fooled the Jets defense, leaving receiver Jimmy Orr wide open in the end zone. But Morrall failed to spot him, and instead threw a pass intended for running back Jerry Hill that was intercepted by Jets safety Jim Hudson as time expired, maintaining the Jets' 7-0 lead at halftime.

Matte lost a fumble on the first play from scrimmage in the second half, which led to Turner's 32-yard field goal to increase the Jets' lead, 10-0. Then after forcing the Colts to punt again, Namath completed 4 passes for 40 yards to setup Turner's 30-yard field goal to increase the lead, 13-0. On that drive, Namath temporarily went out of the game after injuring his right thumb, and was replaced by backup quarterback Babe Parilli for a few plays.

After Turner's second field goal, Colts head coach Don Shula took Morrall out of the game and put in the sore armed Johnny Unitas to see if he could provide a spark to Baltimore's offense. But Unitas could not get the Colts offense moving on their next drive and they were forced to punt again after 3 plays. Then aided by a 39-yard pass from Namath to Sauer, the Jets drove all the way to the Colts 2-yard line. Baltimore kept them out of the end zone, but Turner kicked his third field goal early in the final period to make the score 16-0.

[ahaha]

You're right. I just got Super Bowl 3 and 5 mixed up.

[MadtownPacker]

What about all the mutiple appearances. Favre, Elway, Montana, Aikman, and Brady take up 17 alone.

[pbmax]

So:

No.1 versus Non No. 1
14 - 10

No. 1 (higer pick) versus No. 1 (lower pick)
5 - 3

Other(higher) versus Other(lower)
5 - 3

[pbmax]

So:

No.1 versus Non No. 1
14 - 10

No. 1 (higer pick) versus No. 1 (lower pick)
5 - 3

Other(higher) versus Other(lower)
5 - 3
Favre beat a No.1 and lost to one. Montana, a 3rd, beat a third, beat two No.1s and beat an other. Brady beat a No. 1, don't tell bulldog.

Instead, tell bulldog's detractors Brady beat two others. Warner and Delhomme.

Feast or famine with a third round pick. They are 4-3 in Super Bowls. Montana 4 Ws, Tarkenton 3 Ls.

[run pMc]

Using a flux capacitor ("1.21 jigawatts!"), some actuarial functions, and tea leaves, I've determined that 25 quarters will pass before the GB offense scores a touchdown this season.

Just kidding.

pbMax, why did you pull Kurt Warner out of the winner's list? Is it because he was undrafted, or do you think him unworthy?

IIRC, STL held on to beat TEN in a pretty good game (Kevin Dyson tackled about a yard short)