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George Cumby
01-24-2021, 05:43 PM
I'm besides myself at the moment.

Duds:

Lafleur
Pettine
Pass Rush
O-Line

Joemailman
01-24-2021, 05:47 PM
Stud: MVS, Jaire

Dud: King

RashanGary
01-24-2021, 05:47 PM
Alexander was a stud. I thought Rodgers was too. And MVS

Bossman641
01-24-2021, 05:52 PM
Stud...MVS, Jaire

Dud.... King, Redmond, Z/Preston/Gary

Rutnstrut
01-24-2021, 06:05 PM
Rodgers was kind of a stud. He didn't exactly play at an MVP level though.

Bretsky
01-24-2021, 06:07 PM
STUD: JAIRE, MVS, maybe Tonyan

DUDS:

Matt Lafleur
Petting
Ricky Wagner
Kevin King
Redmund
Z/Preston/Gary with no sacks
St Brown and Lazaar

beveaux1
01-24-2021, 06:10 PM
STUD: JAIRE, MVS, maybe Tonyan

DUDS:

Matt Lafleur
Petting
Kevin King
Redmund
Z/Preston/Gary with no sacks
St Brown and Lazaar

Agree with everyone except Lazard. I’d add the STs ( all of them) and Jones(2 fumbles)

smuggler
01-24-2021, 06:12 PM
Dud: ESPN's QBR (still). Brady kinda played like shit but it has him with ~76 game grade.

Jaire
01-24-2021, 06:13 PM
Duds in order:

1) Pettine: should have been fired last year. 2 debacles worse than Capers now. At least Capers kept it real for 57 minutes in 2014. That melt down began with the special teams coach, which was on MM ultimately. But Pettine was fully responsible for giving up ANY points but especially 7 to end the half. The pieces are there just not the DC.

2) refs I don't even know what the rules are any more esp for holding and pass interference. Rigged??

3) MLF -- He is still young. Great coach during regular season. Can he win post season?

4) Where was the pressure? Was it Pettine or the players -- though the Bucs do have a great Oline. I want to review this game.

5) Davante drops the ball


Studs:

Clark -- he can bring it post season

Jaire -- a good DC could have this squad top five easy.

MVS -- gonna figure all out next year

Bretsky
01-24-2021, 06:15 PM
LAFLEUR GETTING INTERVIEWED on end of the first half

That was a bad call and should not have happened

beveaux1
01-24-2021, 06:21 PM
Rodgers played OK, but appeared to press as he got closer to the end zone. He didn’t play like an MVP but he wasn’t a dud.

Unfortunately, he’s one step closer to the end of his Packer career.

Bretsky
01-24-2021, 06:23 PM
GOTTA GIVE LAFLEUR CREDIT

He just noted he was not on his A game and he feels terrible

RashanGary
01-24-2021, 06:46 PM
Duds in order:

1) Pettine: should have been fired last year. 2 debacles worse than Capers now. At least Capers kept it real for 57 minutes in 2014. That melt down began with the special teams coach, which was on MM ultimately. But Pettine was fully responsible for giving up ANY points but especially 7 to end the half. The pieces are there just not the DC.

2) refs I don't even know what the rules are any more esp for holding and pass interference. Rigged??

3) MLF -- He is still young. Great coach during regular season. Can he win post season?

4) Where was the pressure? Was it Pettine or the players -- though the Bucs do have a great Oline. I want to review this game.

5) Davante drops the ball


Studs:

Clark -- he can bring it post season

Jaire -- a good DC could have this squad top five easy.

MVS -- gonna figure all out next year

Well said.

RashanGary
01-24-2021, 06:48 PM
We finally missed Bakh. Probably would have won. Too bad he won't be back till mid season at the soonest next year, or not at all. I'm curious how well Turner can play with a full offseason at LT only and then a season to sharpen his craft. He played ok. Just needs a little improvement and he's servicable out there. He's always bounced around. Maybe dialing in at one spot he has a little more in the tank.

King Friday
01-24-2021, 06:54 PM
Pettine is the biggest dud... That coverage on the last play of the first half is mind-blowing. Should've had 3 men deep and the rest on the edges. Couldn't find a way to get pressure on Brady or put the team in the right call to get off the field on third down.

King is a close second... What a terrible performance. The fact that he's recovering from injury is the only reason I don't have him in the top spot.

Gute is also a dud. I don't care what Love turns into. This team has a short window with Rodgers and you don't waste draft capital to trade up and take a QB. Any other position coul d've offered help today. College is turning out lots of good QBs these days.

Clark is a stud...Jaire played great as usual...a lot of mediocrity after that.

Teamcheez1
01-24-2021, 07:02 PM
Duds in order:

1) Pettine: should have been fired last year. 2 debacles worse than Capers now. At least Capers kept it real for 57 minutes in 2014. That melt down began with the special teams coach, which was on MM ultimately. But Pettine was fully responsible for giving up ANY points but especially 7 to end the half. The pieces are there just not the DC.

2) refs I don't even know what the rules are any more esp for holding and pass interference. Rigged??

3) MLF -- He is still young. Great coach during regular season. Can he win post season?

4) Where was the pressure? Was it Pettine or the players -- though the Bucs do have a great Oline. I want to review this game.

5) Davante drops the ball


Studs:

Clark -- he can bring it post season

Jaire -- a good DC could have this squad top five easy.

MVS -- gonna figure all out next year

I’m surprised no one has Chandon Sullivan on their dud list. I also thought Savage might belong there.

HarveyWallbangers
01-24-2021, 07:02 PM
Anybody who doesn’t say King as the biggest dud is wrong. Packers game plan on D was good this game. The Packers shut down the Bucs running game and forced 3 interceptions (should have been 5) of Brady. This game is all on the players for choking—primarily King (and then Redmond for his huge drop). I’m absolutely sure King was told not to let the WR to get behind him at the end of the half.

Good riddance, Kevin King! The new Bostick.

RashanGary
01-24-2021, 07:33 PM
Anybody who doesn’t say King as the biggest dud is wrong. Packers game plan on D was good this game. The Packers shut down the Bucs running game and forced 3 interceptions (should have been 5) of Brady. This game is all on the players for choking—primarily King (and then Redmond for his huge drop). I’m absolutely sure King was told not to let the WR to get behind him at the end of the half.

Good riddance, Kevin King! The new Bostick.

Unfortunately, yes. I hope chandon does sprints all offseason and improves his speed a touch.

Tony Oday
01-24-2021, 07:56 PM
King is gone. Pettine needs to be escorted from the building. AR lost this game. He had a chance to win this multiple times and couldn't do it. Jones last game as a Packer was embarrassing.

GB-Brandon
01-24-2021, 08:15 PM
I don’t know why anyone ever thought King was something special. He has been grading out on PFF at around 55.7 all year. He is nothing more then an average “Boundary Corner.”

Playoff Football is different People!! Every Weakness gets exposed!! King is the weak link of our secondary but Pettine is a Fucken Idiot and should of protected him better. You can play man on one side with zone and help on the other and scheme different things. Why Pettine had King playing press man in certain situations with no help is beyond anything I can comprehend!!!

We have an incompetent defensive coordinator and it was a bomb waiting to go off and it finally went BOOM!!!

I posted about it the other day!!! That’s the whole story to this as far as the defense!!

Joemailman
01-24-2021, 08:24 PM
Clark led team with 8 tackles and 1 sack. How often does a NT do that?

smuggler
01-24-2021, 09:15 PM
Silver lining. Kenny is the anti-Cletius.

HarveyWallbangers
01-24-2021, 09:55 PM
Not sure why Pettine is getting blasted for this game. Buccaneers held to 3.5 yards/carry, Brady completed 55% with 3 interceptions (should have been 5). One short field and one bone-headed play by King kept it from 17-20 points.

Not that I’m against getting rid of him.

I’m going to need awhile to get over this one. See you at draft time. Go Chiefs! (My girlfriend is a Chiefs fan.)

Joemailman
01-24-2021, 10:26 PM
Not sure why Pettine is getting blasted for this game. Buccaneers held to 3.5 yards/carry, Brady completed 55% with 3 interceptions (should have been 5). One short field and one bone-headed play by King kept it from 17-20 points.

Not that I’m against getting rid of him.



Kind of agree. First half was terrible. But in the 2nd half the only TD drive they gave up was 8 yards, and that was followed by 3 straight interceptions. They gave Packers a chance to come back and win this game. Still, more is required, and with significant player personnel changes coming this offseason, might be a good time to make a change.

call_me_ishmael
01-24-2021, 10:45 PM
Not sure why Pettine is getting blasted for this game. Buccaneers held to 3.5 yards/carry, Brady completed 55% with 3 interceptions (should have been 5). One short field and one bone-headed play by King kept it from 17-20 points.

Not that I’m against getting rid of him.

I’m going to need awhile to get over this one. See you at draft time. Go Chiefs! (My girlfriend is a Chiefs fan.)

It didn't seem to me like the Packers got very much pressure on Brady, and then he was lethal on 3rd down. I understand they were picking on Sullivan, but why not adjust and double? The first half TD was indefensible in my opinion.

Freak Out
01-24-2021, 10:47 PM
Dud to MF for not giving the MVP a shot at the 4th down with just over 2 minutes left.

MadtownPacker
01-24-2021, 11:11 PM
The MVP wasn't the MVP much of the game. As mentioned offense got the ball back repeatedly in the second half. I agree it would have been better to go for it. No difference down 5 or down 8, still need a TD.

Jaire
01-25-2021, 01:46 AM
The MVP wasn't the MVP much of the game. As mentioned offense got the ball back repeatedly in the second half. I agree it would have been better to go for it. No difference down 5 or down 8, still need a TD.

That wasn't so bad a call as I thought. And they got the stop they wanted except refs suddenly remebered about holding on that uncatchable pass.

The were 0 for 3 on 3rd and 8 and had to get an extra 2. This way they win the game. They simply weren't executing like usual in the gold zone. Not a horrible decision.

th87
01-25-2021, 03:30 AM
Not sure why Pettine is getting blasted for this game. Buccaneers held to 3.5 yards/carry, Brady completed 55% with 3 interceptions (should have been 5). One short field and one bone-headed play by King kept it from 17-20 points.

Not that I’m against getting rid of him.

I’m going to need awhile to get over this one. See you at draft time. Go Chiefs! (My girlfriend is a Chiefs fan.)

Remember, a lot of this "defense" was a combination of dimes ricocheting off of Buccaneer receivers' hands and Brady missing open receivers.

We were fortunate to be in it; unfortunate we couldn't close.

Dud:

- Game management. Against a tired defense, go to a grind it out type game with Dillon. Could've won this going away without the old MM antics on offense.

wootah
01-25-2021, 08:20 AM
GOTTA GIVE LAFLEUR CREDIT

He just noted he was not on his A game and he feels terrible

Honestly, this whole thing feels like a punch in the stomach. Watching the interviews with Rodgers & MLF made it even worse. Those guys are absolutely gutted, MLF battling the tears, Rodgers contemplating "the finality of it all". Proud of this team, the way they battled & what they showed the whole season. They gave me a lot of enjoyment during these fucking covid times, but it will take a while before the sour taste of this defeat will be replaced by gratitude for what they did.

Fritz
01-25-2021, 10:01 AM
The MVP wasn't the MVP much of the game. As mentioned offense got the ball back repeatedly in the second half. I agree it would have been better to go for it. No difference down 5 or down 8, still need a TD.

So many mistakes. So poorly called, so poorly executed.

Agree with Mad above, first of all. You get the ball back that many times on turnovers and all you can get out of it is six points? Rodgers was okay, nothing more. He missed a wide-open Lazard on a red-zone play in which he opted to throw to the back of the end zone to Adams who was clearly heading out of bounds as he caught it. Lazard was in the front of the end zone, nine yards in front of Adams, wide open. So he was in Rodgers's field of vision. Also, on that third-and-goal throw at the end of the game to Adams - you look at the reply with the camera that's behind Rodgers, and it's clear he had a pretty good chance to run the ball into the right corner of the end zone. Instead he threw it to a double-covered Adams. Sheesh.

LeFleur should be crucified for this game. The team was not ready from the opening bell. The play calling was horrible - he suffered the same mistake that MM used to make - the run doesn't work right away, so he abandons the ship. And he did find two things in the running game that worked: first, the old 49ers sweep, which I think he ran twice in the first half, both picking up nice gains. Then he started using Dillon after Jones was hurt, and he was the most effective back on the field. But LeFleur kept calling passes, and worse yet, lots of side-to-side stuff that didn't work much. The play call on the second Jones fumble was a terrible one. Jones was never going to get that first down, not never. Anyway, why did The Flower not keep using the old SF sweep play? Man, once he gave up on the run, Tampa just pinned its ears back. And his call - not going for it on fourth down - made zero sense. Why would you pass on that opportunity? Do you want Aaron Rodgers to have one shot at a touchdown and if successful, another one-play shot at a two-point conversion, or do you want to give the ball to Tom Brady against your defense, which was hapless for much of the day? What a stupid, stupid call.

King was horrible, just horrible. There is just zero excuse for letting a wide receiver get behind you at the end of the half when your entire job is to keep the guy in front of you. King was bad all day, just all day long. A dollar short and a day late.

Pettine was also terrible in preparing this defense. How many times did they get the Bucs into third-and-long situations, only to give up a long, long completion? It was evident early on that the Packers' fronts could get no pressure on Brady, so why did he only blitz very occasionally, and that later in the game? Sure, Brady could burn you, but he was burning this defense because he had all day to throw.

Zadarius Smith was lousy. Gary was a non-entity. Only Kenny Clark played well, and he played really well. Actually, against the running game, Dean Lowry played well, too. But Z Smith was invisible. He's supposed to be a big-play guy, but he was invisible.

Jaire Alexander was wonderful. What a player.

MVS played a good game.

Tonyan was okay, but he dropped a key third down pass from Rodgers in the second half. I think it was one of the attempted drives after one of the interceptions. Tonyan makes that grab, and they have a chance.

I have been rooting for Encylopedia St. Brown, but the two-point conversion drop was inexcusable.

So many mistakes, all piled up on top of one another. Makes me sick. Because Brady wasn't really all that great, either. The minute they pushed the pocket on him, he was throwing lolly pops up in the air in the second half. Again, where was Pettine's adjustment to get more pressure on Brady?

The Tampa Bay defense was great. Aggressive and fast. They really do close fast. You'd think Jones was about to pop one, when suddenly he was down on the ground.

JK Scott needs to be replaced. His first punt, when they needed something, was 38 yards. What a pud.

Special teams were their usual sucky selves, even with first stringers playing. Couple of big kick returns put Brady in good position.

Aaron Jones played a poor game - two fumbles, and the second was a dagger.

Mercedes Lewis played well.

Jamal Williams demonstrated that he's a nice second fiddle, but that's about it.

Poor Rick Wagner. The guy's knees are shot, and the Tampa DE took advantage of Wagner's immobility.

What really sucks is that if this team had played even okay, they'd be in the SB. Adams dropping a TD pass in the first half, so they have to settle for a FG instead of tying it at 14? King's inexcusable mistake at the end of the half? LeFleur's abandoning of the run altogether?

If they'd played pretty well and lost, well, it would hurt. But they played a terrible, terrible game. Sure, TB had something to do with it, but mostly the Pack just kept shooting themselves in the foot. And I hope LeFleur does some soul searching about his play calling in rematch games.

What a poop stain.

bobblehead
01-25-2021, 10:30 AM
Just going to give my 2 cents before getting ready to draft in my dynasty league.

1) MVS did everything you could ask of him. If he can display the game he showed over the last 6-7 games he is a legit #2. CONSISTENCY.

2) Pettine needs to go. He lived off Rex Ryan's brilliance and isn't a good DC. However this game was lost based on many factors, not just him. I'm not scapegoating him, just pointing out a truth.

3) I don't like blaming officials, but I have watched too many Tom Brady playoff games to not say this. Defensive holding is a drive killer/drive extender. Brady has benefitted so many times throughout the years. In this game they completely change the dynamic when they didn't throw the flag on the Rodgers interception. We were driving to either close or take the lead and/or kill the half while getting second half kickoff. Instead no call and a defensive breakdown gives TB 21-10 lead. Also killed a drive in the 4th quarter when Lazard was mugged and no call on 3rd down. Then with game on the line they find their flags on a play that was similar to what TB did all game and was borderline uncatchable.

Edit: 4) Why on earth was Rodgers afraid to run to the endzone with the Owl on the line? He acted like a cold 37 year old QB on those 2 plays. Anyone think Flower kicks a FG if Rodgers had taken it to the 1 or 2 yard line?

The officials alone didn't cost us this game, it was a team loss. I'm not blaming any one factor. The defense got 3 picks, but failed in big moments. Rodgers was really good, but took too long to get rolling and then stalled in the 4th when we could have changed the outcome. LaFleur is a great coach, but abandoned the run when Jones got hurt (and a little before even). And Jones...not a good look for a guy wanting a huge deal. ST...well, special as always.

See you all around draft or combine time.

bobblehead
01-25-2021, 10:50 AM
https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-recap-green-bay-packers-must-escape-trap-of-their-own-success/

Excellent article sums it all up. Again, no ONE place to blame, but culmination of problems. I think if we play them 5 more times in Lambeau we win 4 of them.

KYPack
01-25-2021, 12:40 PM
So many mistakes. So poorly called, so poorly executed.

Agree with Mad above, first of all. You get the ball back that many times on turnovers and all you can get out of it is six points? Rodgers was okay, nothing more. He missed a wide-open Lazard on a red-zone play in which he opted to throw to the back of the end zone to Adams who was clearly heading out of bounds as he caught it. Lazard was in the front of the end zone, nine yards in front of Adams, wide open. So he was in Rodgers's field of vision. Also, on that third-and-goal throw at the end of the game to Adams - you look at the reply with the camera that's behind Rodgers, and it's clear he had a pretty good chance to run the ball into the right corner of the end zone. Instead he threw it to a double-covered Adams. Sheesh.

LeFleur should be crucified for this game. The team was not ready from the opening bell. The play calling was horrible - he suffered the same mistake that MM used to make - the run doesn't work right away, so he abandons the ship. And he did find two things in the running game that worked: first, the old 49ers sweep, which I think he ran twice in the first half, both picking up nice gains. Then he started using Dillon after Jones was hurt, and he was the most effective back on the field. But LeFleur kept calling passes, and worse yet, lots of side-to-side stuff that didn't work much. The play call on the second Jones fumble was a terrible one. Jones was never going to get that first down, not never. Anyway, why did The Flower not keep using the old SF sweep play? Man, once he gave up on the run, Tampa just pinned its ears back. And his call - not going for it on fourth down - made zero sense. Why would you pass on that opportunity? Do you want Aaron Rodgers to have one shot at a touchdown and if successful, another one-play shot at a two-point conversion, or do you want to give the ball to Tom Brady against your defense, which was hapless for much of the day? What a stupid, stupid call.

King was horrible, just horrible. There is just zero excuse for letting a wide receiver get behind you at the end of the half when your entire job is to keep the guy in front of you. King was bad all day, just all day long. A dollar short and a day late.

Pettine was also terrible in preparing this defense. How many times did they get the Bucs into third-and-long situations, only to give up a long, long completion? It was evident early on that the Packers' fronts could get no pressure on Brady, so why did he only blitz very occasionally, and that later in the game? Sure, Brady could burn you, but he was burning this defense because he had all day to throw.

Zadarius Smith was lousy. Gary was a non-entity. Only Kenny Clark played well, and he played really well. Actually, against the running game, Dean Lowry played well, too. But Z Smith was invisible. He's supposed to be a big-play guy, but he was invisible.

Jaire Alexander was wonderful. What a player.

MVS played a good game.

Tonyan was okay, but he dropped a key third down pass from Rodgers in the second half. I think it was one of the attempted drives after one of the interceptions. Tonyan makes that grab, and they have a chance.

I have been rooting for Encylopedia St. Brown, but the two-point conversion drop was inexcusable.

So many mistakes, all piled up on top of one another. Makes me sick. Because Brady wasn't really all that great, either. The minute they pushed the pocket on him, he was throwing lolly pops up in the air in the second half. Again, where was Pettine's adjustment to get more pressure on Brady?

The Tampa Bay defense was great. Aggressive and fast. They really do close fast. You'd think Jones was about to pop one, when suddenly he was down on the ground.

JK Scott needs to be replaced. His first punt, when they needed something, was 38 yards. What a pud.

Special teams were their usual sucky selves, even with first stringers playing. Couple of big kick returns put Brady in good position.

Aaron Jones played a poor game - two fumbles, and the second was a dagger.

Mercedes Lewis played well.

Jamal Williams demonstrated that he's a nice second fiddle, but that's about it.

Poor Rick Wagner. The guy's knees are shot, and the Tampa DE took advantage of Wagner's immobility.

What really sucks is that if this team had played even okay, they'd be in the SB. Adams dropping a TD pass in the first half, so they have to settle for a FG instead of tying it at 14? King's inexcusable mistake at the end of the half? LeFleur's abandoning of the run altogether?

If they'd played pretty well and lost, well, it would hurt. But they played a terrible, terrible game. Sure, TB had something to do with it, but mostly the Pack just kept shooting themselves in the foot. And I hope LeFleur does some soul searching about his play calling in rematch games.

What a poop stain.

Great analysis. If I didn't have a headache, this is what I'd write up. It's a tough read, but that's what went down.

Lot of work to turn this ship in the right direction.

Anti-Polar Bear
01-25-2021, 12:51 PM
Great analysis. If I didn't have a headache, this is what I'd write up. It's a tough read, but that's what went down.

Lot of work to turn this ship in the right direction.

Ole Fritz forgot to mention Turner. Couldn’t handle that French guy, Jason Prairie-Luc. And that fucking Irish O’Sullivan, #39, he was an abomination; I actually wished Mr. Hyde was still out there for the Packers.

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 12:51 PM
Well Rodgers is getting ready to talk his way out of here so some of you people won’t have the AGONY of having to complain about his play all the time and making him the problem anymore!!!
You can nit pick the great Jordan Love to death!!

Enjoy the 4-12 Misery!!!!

Joemailman
01-25-2021, 12:51 PM
Just going to give my 2 cents before getting ready to draft in my dynasty league.

1) MVS did everything you could ask of him. If he can display the game he showed over the last 6-7 games he is a legit #2. CONSISTENCY.

2) Pettine needs to go. He lived off Rex Ryan's brilliance and isn't a good DC. However this game was lost based on many factors, not just him. I'm not scapegoating him, just pointing out a truth.

3) I don't like blaming officials, but I have watched too many Tom Brady playoff games to not say this. Defensive holding is a drive killer/drive extender. Brady has benefitted so many times throughout the years. In this game they completely change the dynamic when they didn't throw the flag on the Rodgers interception. We were driving to either close or take the lead and/or kill the half while getting second half kickoff. Instead no call and a defensive breakdown gives TB 21-10 lead. Also killed a drive in the 4th quarter when Lazard was mugged and no call on 3rd down. Then with game on the line they find their flags on a play that was similar to what TB did all game and was borderline uncatchable.

Edit: 4) Why on earth was Rodgers afraid to run to the endzone with the Owl on the line? He acted like a cold 37 year old QB on those 2 plays. Anyone think Flower kicks a FG if Rodgers had taken it to the 1 or 2 yard line?

The officials alone didn't cost us this game, it was a team loss. I'm not blaming any one factor. The defense got 3 picks, but failed in big moments. Rodgers was really good, but took too long to get rolling and then stalled in the 4th when we could have changed the outcome. LaFleur is a great coach, but abandoned the run when Jones got hurt (and a little before even). And Jones...not a good look for a guy wanting a huge deal. ST...well, special as always.

See you all around draft or combine time.

MLF likely would have gone for it. Plus, if you get the ball down close, you force Bucs to bring in run support personnel, which increases likelihood of successful passing play if you want to go that route.

hoosier
01-25-2021, 01:12 PM
I'm besides myself at the moment.

Still drunk? :)

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 01:14 PM
Time to move forward with Love!!! He can probably get to the endzone on that play and get more out of these massively talented receivers!!

Great Call!!

Vincenzo
01-25-2021, 01:22 PM
I have to start looking at how Aaron Rodgers played. Put it this way, versus the Bucs I would have taken gunslinger Brett Favre any day of the week.

George Cumby
01-25-2021, 01:25 PM
Still drunk? :)

High on life.

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 01:38 PM
Rodgers will go somewhere else and they will supportwith what he needs like Tampa has supported Brady and he will win a couple more rings and it will be the final nail in the coffin of this completely dysfunctional organization!!!!

Bossman641
01-25-2021, 02:09 PM
Rodgers will go somewhere else and they will supportwith what he needs like Tampa has supported Brady and he will win a couple more rings and it will be the final nail in the coffin of this completely dysfunctional organization!!!!

Out of curiosity, which franchises are tailor made for Rodgers to step into and could fit him under the cap?

Joemailman
01-25-2021, 02:17 PM
Out of curiosity, which franchises are tailor made for Rodgers to step into and could fit him under the cap?

Colts and Patriots have the cap room right now. 49ers would have the cap room of they released Jimmy G.

Zool
01-25-2021, 02:28 PM
I know everyone is salty right now, but there's no way they cut or trade Rodgers this year. MVP, save almost no money, still under 40, backup situation is tenuous at best, Lara Flynn Boyle is a FA and will be looking for some playing time.

Someone surprising is going to get cut to save money. Preston will be cut or restructured, Zadarius is one that I wonder what will happen. Maybe a restructure and add 2 years?

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 02:37 PM
Out of curiosity, which franchises are tailor made for Rodgers to step into and could fit him under the cap?

The ideal spot for him would be the Washington football Team!! This is what I hear!! Or as i call them the “Redskins” and I am part Lakota Sioux so I can say that!!!!

This is where I believe the move will come. They have tons of cap space and can eat some dead $ on Alex Smith and create more. They have a dominate defensive front in place. They are really only a few pieces away on defense from being elite!! They have “Cap Space and Picks” which I call “Guns and Dope” and can add to their weapons on offense very easily. This is a team that played Tampa tough with a back up QB!!!

They play in the NFC East Where Rodgers could easily go in and dominate the division and rack up “W’s” getting Home field advantage every year!!!! He would have Fed Ex ROCKING!!! He would restore glory to this franchise and certainly set them up for a run with Ron Rivera in place!!! They would go out of their way to stack the shelves with weaponry for Rodgers!!

This is I believe is where the trade will happen!!! I like it cause I have my friends with commercial real estate ties there and can go there and watch him play all the time. Would be a lot off fun watching him surrounded by “Greatness” for once and finally appreciated!!


https://youtu.be/gm0mKoifWZs

Joemailman
01-25-2021, 03:11 PM
Brady had a passer rating of 140.2 when targeting King.

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 03:17 PM
We’re getting ready to remove Rodgers from this equation and this “LaFlower Bullshit” and “26-6 Bullshit” and “Gute Bullshit” is about to come to a grinding halt!!!

We get to see how good these Puppets really are!!!

Tony Oday
01-25-2021, 03:20 PM
Brandon has no idea what he is talking about.

GB-Brandon
01-25-2021, 03:25 PM
Brady had a passer rating of 140.2 when targeting King.

Well yeah, your weakest link gets exposed in the playoffs. It’s been posted several times!!!! That’s not the issue. The issue is Pettine not accounting for this and having a plan in place to try cover it up better.

Go get a Competent DC!!!!!!!

Problem is its toooooooo late!!! Gute burnt the bridge!!!! And Murphy poured gasoline on it!!!!!!!

HarveyWallbangers
01-25-2021, 05:01 PM
Brady had a passer rating of 140.2 when targeting King.

<50 against others?

Joemailman
01-25-2021, 05:53 PM
<50 against others?

47.84

mgordo
01-25-2021, 06:14 PM
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2020/12/16/22174122/kevin-kings-struggles-have-the-packers-singing-the-boundary-corner-blues

George Cumby
01-25-2021, 06:35 PM
Brandon has no idea what he is talking about.

You're not from around here, are you, boy?

Zool
01-25-2021, 06:50 PM
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2020/12/16/22174122/kevin-kings-struggles-have-the-packers-singing-the-boundary-corner-blues

Ouch the accuracy.

texaspackerbacker
01-26-2021, 02:58 PM
We’re getting ready to remove Rodgers from this equation and this “LaFlower Bullshit” and “26-6 Bullshit” and “Gute Bullshit” is about to come to a grinding halt!!!

We get to see how good these Puppets really are!!!

"Brandon has no idea what he is talking about."? He's not completely wrong here. His premise is flawed - same as some other negativists in here, that Rodgers is gonna be gone anytime soon. However, the conclusion that if/when Rodgers is gone, the Packers are exactly nothing, a total crap team, and no LaFleur "magic" or Gutekunst "Love" or whatever can change that, yeah, that's absolutely true. We damn well better keep Aaron Rodgers for as long a term as humanly possible, or else the whole thing turns to shit.

texaspackerbacker
01-26-2021, 03:01 PM
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/by-the-numbers/2020/12/16/22174122/kevin-kings-struggles-have-the-packers-singing-the-boundary-corner-blues

Some of this have been saying this all along - Kevin King is a lamer-assed excuse for a Corner. That doesn't get Pettine and the DB coach off the hook, though. A lot of teams have crap like King at Corner and no Alexander on the other side, and they manage to put up better defense than the Packers - last Sunday anyway.

GB-Brandon
01-26-2021, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=texaspackerbacker;1084239]"Brandon has no idea what he is talking about."? He's not completely wrong here. His premise is flawed - same as some other negativists in here, that Rodgers is gonna be gone anytime soon. However, the conclusion that if/when Rodgers is gone, the Packers are exactly nothing, a total crap team, and no LaFleur "magic" or Gutekunst "Love" or whatever can change that, yeah, that's absolutely true. We damn well better keep Aaron Rodgers for as long a term as humanly possible, or else the whole thing turns to shit.[/QUOTE

I believe a “Power Struggle” has begun. It has nothing to do with being “Negative.”

GB-Brandon
01-26-2021, 03:16 PM
Some of this have been saying this all along - Kevin King is a lamer-assed excuse for a Corner. That doesn't get Pettine and the DB coach off the hook, though. A lot of teams have crap like King at Corner and no Alexander on the other side, and they manage to put up better defense than the Packers - last Sunday anyway.

I couldn’t agree more. The chiefs are making it work with Breeland at a corner spot. The main problem is Pettine. It is completely unrealistic to have 5 first round draft picks in the secondary!!

Jaire
07-16-2021, 08:14 PM
Reminiscing on the last NFCCG


Second thoughts


Studs

1) AR made it a game at all. Mahommes was completely crushed by the same Defense (and refs)

2) The TB defense was the best D I have seen since the Denver Broncos & Seattle's that won superbowls. That front seven cannot get enough credit. It's amazing AR almost pulled it off because he was running for his life. It's also why MLF made the right decision to kick the field goal: at least 50/50 given the situation. (And no. He couldn't have run in the tying TD.)

3) MVS -- best game of his career. Only offensive stud besides AR.

4) Jaire & Clark. Career games

Duds

1) the refs tilted this game. They were worse in the SB -- and unnecessarily because TB's front seven dominated KC even more than GB. It almost wrecks the game for me

2) Forget King's deficiencies. Not calling a time out with four seconds, no TB time outs, and Bruce Arians on the other side. I think I yelled time out. This is more on Pettine. Maybe there was already a rift between Pettine and MLF. Worst decision in MLF's career whom I really like.

3) Not running Dillon more in the 4th qtr. MLF admitted it.

4) Adams had his worst game. Just a bad day to drop a TD and run out of the endzone on another. And Brown dropped a conversion: six points. Game difference: 5 points. Adams had a wide open drop on the biggest game of his career: inconceivable.

All that said, this game was lost on three fluke plays. GB does not turn it over. AR threw an interception at the end of the 1st half that was too tight despite defensive holding/ interference; Jones is concussed & fumbles: first lost fumble all year. Then the quick TD at the end of half one on the coaches. Outmatched, GB almost wins without Bakh. That was close because of solid defense and having the MVP. (Tom Brady was chucking it because he did have pressure enough to rattle him which is the key to defeating Brady.) Dillon runs more in qtr 4, they probably win. So the loss is on refs and fluke plays for GB and uncharacteristic play by Adams. They still looked outmatched beginning to end against that D.


Overall. They need help in the trenches. Hopefully Royce and Slaton are a help there. GB can be number one in the season, but playoffs line play is different. That's where the real talent gaps become evident: try hard falls short when you play Suh & Vea (who was MVP in that game). It's the only game I saw Jenkins get pushed around. TB has some studs on OL too: biggest reason Brady has all them rings is because of his great OL forever and ever. 2nd biggest: solid defense.