Official New Defensive Coordinator Thread

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky
The Packers’ search for a new defensive coordinator is underway.

Three known interviews so far. There will be more.


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[call_me_ishmael]

Shout out to ESPN for not only making you dive into their app but not using HTML so you can easily embed/copy-pasta it. Redonkulous of them to go out of their way to break compatibility with the open web.

Chris Harris was a second team all-pro for the Bears in 2010. Any thoughts on the others people who know more than I?

[Joemailman]

Joe Barry would be a tough sell. He's been a DC twice without much success. He was the Lions DC in 2008 when they went 0-16 and gave up over 500 points.

[Joemailman]

LaFleur PC scheduled for 9:00.

[Joemailman]

LaFleur did acknowledge that at least 1 coach from current staff will be interviewed for the DC position.

[bobblehead]

I still want Leonard. Short of that I would go boring with Wade Phillips. Wade has had success with many different teams and scenarios. He is 74 however and not the mold I want.

[GB-Brandon]

Give Leonard a shot I say. The Players would love him and go to war for him. That’s half the battle!!

[GB-Brandon]

I like Phillips but he is just too old.

[GB-Brandon]

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[GB-Brandon]

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[GB-Brandon]

Happy For U!!!!

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[GB-Brandon]

https://youtu.be/ZbZSe6N_BXs

[Joemailman]

Packers have interviewed Kris Richard

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/02/packers-interview-kris-richard-for-dc


Richard was one of the architects of the Seahawks’ famed Legion of Boom. After managing Seattle’s defensive backs, he was elevated to defensive coordinator in 2015. The ‘Hawks parted ways with Richard at the end of the 2017 season, prompting him to move on to the Cowboys as their DB/defensive passing game coach.

[Joemailman]

I still want Leonard. Short of that I would go boring with Wade Phillips. Wade has had success with many different teams and scenarios. He is 74 however and not the mold I want.

Leonhard.

[GB-Brandon]

Richard was a name on the list that gained some interest from me. Dallas was a disaster for him. They didn’t have near the pieces the Packers have overall. I would be just fine with Richard. He would he a huge improvement over Pettine!!

He is competent and did amazing job in Seattle. If he could bring that type of energy to this defense then that would be a Grand Slam! The Motto Being “Defend Every Blade of Grass like it’s the Last”!!!!!!

We have to remember the bar is “Very Low” with Pettine!!

[GB-Brandon]

Pettine treated “Blades of Grass” like there were many to be given and they didn’t mean much!!

[GB-Brandon]

The more I think about it I hope they hire Richard!!! That is the right move!!!

[Bretsky]

Leonhard.

Don't go cherry picking Badger Coaches !!!!!!!!!!!

[Upnorth]

Packers have interviewed Kris Richard

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2021/02/packers-interview-kris-richard-for-dc

Don't the cowboys have a garbage d? I dont remember the last time I though 'look at the cowboys d'.
I think he looked good in seattle because of the players they had. Not the scheme so much.

[Joemailman]

Don't the cowboys have a garbage d? I dont remember the last time I though 'look at the cowboys d'.
I think he looked good in seattle because of the players they had. Not the scheme so much.

McCarthy did not retain him. Richard did not coach on 2020.

[th87]

Why was he fired in Seattle?

[GB-Brandon]

Why was he fired in Seattle?

“Scapegoat” and many including Mike Holmgren found the move to be “Puzzling”

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/was-kris-richards-downfall-that-he-blitzed-too-much-a-look-into-the-numbers/

[Joemailman]

Why was he fired in Seattle?

Don't know exactly, but Seattle's defense in 2017 was not as good as it had been his 1st 2 years. His defenses in points allowed ranked 1st, 3rd and 13th. Seattle's defenses have gotten worse since they fired Richard.

[GB-Brandon]

Don't the cowboys have a garbage d? I dont remember the last time I though 'look at the cowboys d'.
I think he looked good in seattle because of the players they had. Not the scheme so much.

The scheme in Seattle was simple no doubt but they were fundamentally coached up better then anyone else.

Especially in the secondary.

[GB-Brandon]

Personally I’d welcome a more “Simpler Scheme” where players rely more on Natural Instincts and attacking the field and football more. For ten years we’ve been playing this Passive Style of defense and reacting on reads which seems to always leave us a step behind!!!

Scrap The Gizmo Defense Now!!! Quit Drafting Corners In The First Round & Switch Up The Scheme!!

[Joemailman]

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[Joemailman]

Kris Richard signs with Saints as secondary coach. Reports that Packers had interviewed him for DC job were likely premature. Other sites were reporting Packers had "reached out" to him. Possible Packers would have been interested in hiring him as secondary coach in the event they give Jerry Gray the DC job.

[GB-Brandon]

There gonna go with Jerry Gray. They love to go internal.

[texaspackerbacker]

Other than Leonhard, none of those names are very impressive. They apparently are going young - no Marvin Lewis or Wade Phillips. I assume they can't interview the Tampa coaches until after the SB. I doubt anything happens until then.

[Upnorth]

Apparently Ryan Nielsen saints assistant head coach is being interviewed as posted by joemailman above.

Sounds like saints arent happy and have blocked the move before. Could be good. Saints have a solid d.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Other than Leonhard, none of those names are very impressive. They apparently are going young - no Marvin Lewis or Wade Phillips. I assume they can't interview the Tampa coaches until after the SB. I doubt anything happens until then.

I ain’t watch that slavery known as college football anymore (pay the players!), but Google says that the last 3 games Leonhard’s D went against THE Ohio State U, it allowed 34, 34, 38 points, all in defeats.

I understand that the flagship Wisconsin university ain’t as Wu-Tang (good) as THE OSU, as the former is full of suburban Caucasiods who neither need nor love the game (Chris Boreland comes to mind), and latter is full of urban Negroids who must excel in the rye to escape the ghettos. But based on the scores, Leonhard reeks of Pettine, he whose D chokes in big games.

In other words, Leonhard ain’t nothing but a carbon copy of Pettine. The Frog should bring Al Harris back to cold, dark and dull Green Bay.

[texaspackerbacker]

I saw a podcast on YouTube about these guys, and Chris Kiffin from the Browns seemed to stand out. He is supposedly a pass rush specialist with a record of improving that in a couple of teams.

[QBME]

- Captain Kickass

You friggin’ crack me up.

[Sparkey]

I hope they go with a young, up n coming assistant coach and not a retread. Evero, Leonard or Nielson would be my current preference.

[Bretsky]

Leave Leonard be at UW Madison

[Massive J]

Young & cheap. That's my preference.

[Zool]

Leave Leonard be at UW Madison

Bring Leonard in! He's leaving UW, it's just a matter of when. Keep that man in state.

[call_me_ishmael]

Bring Leonard in! He's leaving UW, it's just a matter of when. Keep that man in state.

Maybe I'm just naive and have too much faith in the notion of "home" but I think he might stay and be the eventual successor to Christ. Unless he is A) extremely competitive and wants to keep climbing and be the best, or B) really wants more money, I don't see a lot of upside. He did shoot down Alabama and several of the big schools that could pay him more, for example. Personally, I think he is a made man at UW and would be extremely unlikely to lose that job in the next ten years. I think there is a 50/50 chance he succeeds or flames out in GB. Why would you blow your dream, cozy job at "home" over a crapshoot. I wouldn't do it personally. There is very little in life that more money can get him, so I don't really see the appeal there.

I went into a deep rabbit hole the other day and found his wife's blog that was contributed to as recently as 2014. My biased interpretation of her words and stories painted a picture of somebody that I think valuables stability and comfort. Of course, I am reading into it a whole lot.

[texaspackerbacker]

Wow, CMI, this is scary. I was just about to write that about Leonhard, but then I saw you beat me to it.

Leonhard would be a great successor to Chryst. Successor to Christ? That's a pretty high bar hahahaha.

Seriously, my best guess is that he takes the Chryst route - goes to some other job, then when Chryst retires, they bring him back as the Badgers head coach. Whether that transition phase is a NFL DC or a college head coaching job, it's hard to say.

As for his prospects as Packer DC, on the one hand, he appears to be highly intelligent and has done a great job every he has been. On the negative side, it has been said he would just be a continuation of Pettine's scheme. Back on the positive side, he has seemingly made much better use of his LBs, both OLBs and ILBs with the Badgers than Pettine ever did. Of course, that was college.

[HarveyWallbangers]

If he's destined to be the HC at UW, going to the Packers as DC isn't going to end that destiny. In fact, it might be a boon for UW because then they can hype to recruits that Leonhard has NFL connections and can best help get prospects to the NFL.

[bobblehead]

Other than Leonhard, none of those names are very impressive. They apparently are going young - no Marvin Lewis or Wade Phillips. I assume they can't interview the Tampa coaches until after the SB. I doubt anything happens until then.

You haven't had enough of the old names you know....Jim Bates, Dom Capers, Mike Pettine? I want Rex Ryan if we are going that route. Phillips has a good history but is 74 years old. I want Leonard...I wanted him last time and fat mike FUCKED us.

[bobblehead]

If he's destined to be the HC at UW, going to the Packers as DC isn't going to end that destiny. In fact, it might be a boon for UW because then they can hype to recruits that Leonhard has NFL connections and can best help get prospects to the NFL.

Agreed. I will add one more thing. Pettine is on record saying that when Leonard was a safety for him in the NFL he basically ran the defense. He knows the system the packer players have some time in now and he knows how to get the best out of it. He is our guy. If they hire anyone else its insane.

Edit: Hell, maybe he can talk TJ into entering free agency and coming home!!

[Teamcheez1]

It makes me wonder if they have their eye on some assistants coaching in the Super Bowl. They don’t seem to be in any real hurry and can start those interviews come Monday.

[texaspackerbacker]

You haven't had enough of the old names you know....Jim Bates, Dom Capers, Mike Pettine? I want Rex Ryan if we are going that route. Phillips has a good history but is 74 years old. I want Leonard...I wanted him last time and fat mike FUCKED us.

I certainly wasn't saying I WANTED one of the oldies. I specifically said a while back I do NOT want Phillips. I just said that it looks from the interviews that they aren't considering older types - only relatively young. I would be glad to have Leonhard as Packer DC too.

What I've said, though, is that the what is more important than the who. I want more pass rush/more and better blitz packages. I'd also like to see more zone pass D.

[RashanGary]

It makes me wonder if they have their eye on some assistants coaching in the Super Bowl. They don’t seem to be in any real hurry and can start those interviews come Monday.

Good point. The buccaneers defense was hard to score on. Wouldn’t doubt if we nab one of them.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I ain’t watch that slavery known as college football anymore (pay the players!), but Google says that the last 3 games Leonhard’s D went against THE Ohio State U, it allowed 34, 34, 38 points, all in defeats.

Where do you get your stats from? Leonhard has been DC at Wisconsin since 2017. According to College Football Reference, the Badgers didn’t play Ohio State in 2018 and 2020.

In 2017 Ohio State scored 27 points. However, they averaged 41.1 points/game.
In 2019 Ohio State scored 34 points. However, they averaged 47.9 points/game.


In his first four seasons, UW averaged finishing third in scoring defense (17.2 points per game), fourth in total yards allowed (297.9 yards per game), fifth in rushing defense (112.3 ypg) and fifth in pass efficiency defense (109.0). UW forced the second-most turnovers of any FBS team during that span (104).

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Where do you get your stats from? Leonhard has been DC at Wisconsin since 2017. According to College Football Reference, the Badgers didn’t play Ohio State in 2018 and 2020.

In 2017 Ohio State scored 27 points. However, they averaged 41.1 points/game.
In 2019 Ohio State scored 34 points. However, they averaged 47.9 points/game.

It’s easy for Leonhard to rig the stats against cow colleges like Southern Kentucky Confederate State A and M. Get back to me when Leonhard shut down the Ohio State U, or at least hold the Buck-fucks to 20 or less points.

[GB-Brandon]

Leonard staying at Wisconsin!!

If it comes down to Evero or Barry were Fucked!! Typical Packer BULLSHIT. Smells like Murphy!! “PUPPET’’S”

Might be time to bag it!!!

[GB-Brandon]

Talk about a bunch of Fucken Idiots!!!!!

[KYPack]

Where do you get your stats from? Leonhard has been DC at Wisconsin since 2017. According to College Football Reference, the Badgers didn’t play Ohio State in 2018 and 2020.

In 2017 Ohio State scored 27 points. However, they averaged 41.1 points/game.
In 2019 Ohio State scored 34 points. However, they averaged 47.9 points/game.

Where he gets a lot of his stuff. He lied and made it up. He not only didn't shut down Darrin Charles, he didn't even play in that game. His stats on Leonhard? All bullshit and made up.

The only virtue Tank has is consistency. He's always full of shit

[GB-Brandon]

Anybody that goes and interviews with the Packers with “Any Balls” like Josh McDaniels gets blown right out the door!!!

I wonder Why??????

[GB-Brandon]

Vince Lombardi “Had Balls” and was even “Rough around the Edges.” He was a “Trendsetter.”” His personality was certainly “The Strongest In The Room”!!

How come we are so embarrassed of our past when bringing in and acquiring new people to obtain “Greatness”???

This is certainly an eyesore and contributes to our failure to achieve what are past successor did!!!

We deserve everything we get!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Leonard staying at Wisconsin!!

Praise the LOAD!

Seriously, the Packers don’t need another big game choker, especially another apple from the Rex Ryan fruitless tree. Leonhard can’t beat THE Ohio State University, so what makes you think he could beat P-Ma or the GOAT, TB-12?

Good luck winning Brazzers Dot Com Bowls, Leonhard.

The next Packer D-coordinator will be busy winning Super Bowls. Whoever he or she is, I hope they are black, Asian or Turkish.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Where he gets a lot of his stuff. He lied and made it up. He not only didn't shut down Darrin Charles, he didn't even play in that game. His stats on Leonhard? All bullshit and made up.

The only virtue Tank has is consistency. He's always full of shit

My source was the flagship university’s football program website itself. Site highlighted the most recent game against THE OSU, and then listed it again in it’s archives. I must’ve misread it. Hence, the 34 points twice.

Regardless, I am super jolly Kellen Moore’s twin from another mother, Jimmy, ain’t gonna be DC of my beloved Packers!

[Fritz]

Vince Lombardi “Had Balls” and was even “Rough around the Edges.” He was a “Trendsetter.”” His personality was certainly “The Strongest In The Room”!!

How come we are so embarrassed of our past when bringing in and acquiring new people to obtain “Greatness”???

This is certainly an eyesore and contributes to our failure to achieve what are past successor did!!!

We deserve everything we get!!

Branden you need to rename yourself "Son of Woodbuck and Tank."

You "rant," you put "strange phrases" in quotation marks for "no good reason," you claim the end of the "world is" coming when the Packers do or don't do anything. This is a team that was in the NFC Championship game two years in a row. Disappointing losses? Yes, especially this year. Lots of blame to be laid? Sure. But your over-the-top "the world is coming to an end" is pretty ridiculous, especially since it's your response to every issue.

If you were suggesting in one of your (many) posts that maybe it's time for you to give up being a Packer fan because the organization is just so hopeless and terrible, well, I hope you do.

Where o where is PB? Where is Patler? MJ Ziggy?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Where do you get your stats from? Leonhard has been DC at Wisconsin since 2017. According to College Football Reference, the Badgers didn’t play Ohio State in 2018 and 2020.

In 2017 Ohio State scored 27 points. However, they averaged 41.1 points/game.
In 2019 Ohio State scored 34 points. However, they averaged 47.9 points/game.

THE Ohio State U also beat Bretsky/Tex/Fosco/TH’s alma mater 38-7 on Oct 26, 2019.

[HarveyWallbangers]

THE Ohio State U also beat Bretsky/Tex/Fosco/TH’s alma mater 38-7 on Oct 26, 2019.

You are correct. They played them twice that year. Again, that Ohio State averaged 47 points/game and, without a bad call by the refs, beats Clemson in the National title game and goes undefeated. Hard to blame that on Leonhard, but at this point it doesn’t matter.

[GB-Brandon]

Branden you need to rename yourself "Son of Woodbuck and Tank."

You "rant," you put "strange phrases" in quotation marks for "no good reason," you claim the end of the "world is" coming when the Packers do or don't do anything. This is a team that was in the NFC Championship game two years in a row. Disappointing losses? Yes, especially this year. Lots of blame to be laid? Sure. But your over-the-top "the world is coming to an end" is pretty ridiculous, especially since it's your response to every issue.

If you were suggesting in one of your (many) posts that maybe it's time for you to give up being a Packer fan because the organization is just so hopeless and terrible, well, I hope you do.

Where o where is PB? Where is Patler? MJ Ziggy?

Can’t you see how Mark Murphy and the power structure is holding this whole thing back from Greatness? They basically run off anyone and anything that isn’t some Puppet or Robot!!

[GB-Brandon]

Barry has already “FAilLED” two times!! Why would he even be a finalist? He is a walking Disaster! WEAK!!! Evero or whatever his name is doesn’t have the pop to turn this defense around. These people are being considered for other reasons other then their ability to help this team win a World Championship!

It’s Pathetic!!!

[Teamcheez1]

OMG, it’s the end of the world because we couldn’t hire an assistant college coach who has never coached in the NFL. Woe is me, there is no one left to hire in the entire coaching world.

[Upnorth]

Can’t you see how Mark Murphy and the power structure is holding this whole thing back from Greatness? They basically run off anyone and anything that isn’t some Puppet or Robot!!

This is clown shoes

[texaspackerbacker]

Leonhard woulda been good, but I'm more than a little bit glad he stayed with the Badgers too.

I don't know much about this Evero and Berry, but I can't help thinking, the Packers still have other options, specifically the two possibilities mentioned from Tampa. I guess we'll see about them after the super bowl. Caldwell is the name I'm looking at now.

[GB-Brandon]

https://twitter.com/CreamCityCtral/status/1358175386438422531

There ya have it!! Hire a “Two Time Loser” so he can become a “Three Time Loser”!!!!

And people wonder why this defense has sucked forever!!

[GB-Brandon]

This is clown shoes

Yeah, Mark Murphy & The Packers Power Structure!!! It really is!!!

[GB-Brandon]

OMG, it’s the end of the world because we couldn’t hire an assistant college coach who has never coached in the NFL. Woe is me, there is no one left to hire in the entire coaching world.

I never said that!!

[GB-Brandon]

So Forget wasting picks on the defense!!! Scrap that idea!! It’s an all offense attack again!! WR,WR, WR, WR, WR !!!!!!!!

Here we go Again!!!!!

[Upnorth]

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/06/report-packers-plan-to-hire-joe-barry-as-defensive-coordinator/

In his 2 years with detroit as dc he def dvoa in 2007 was 31st. 2008 32nd.
Was 2015 def this 21st 2016 18th...

Sigh

[MadtownPacker]

So Forget wasting picks on the defense!!! Scrap that idea!! It’s an all offense attack again!! WR,WR, WR, WR, WR !!!!!!!!

Here we go Again!!!!!

I already told you man about derailing thread topics. This is about the new DC not how you feel about draft picks. I can’t ignore things because I like you. We have to consider what the majority here says and right now it doesn’t look good for ole Brandon. Just stay on topic is all you gotta do, por favor. You appear to have taken the role of heel from AntiPolarbear aka Tank aka the white DB who shutdown Darren Charles in the performance of a lifetime. Someone had to do it.

[GB-Brandon]

You guys are right! It’s not the “The Green Bay Rodgers”. It’s the “Green Bay Clowns”

These Fools have No Fucken Clue what they are Doing!!! They just find ways to make things WORSE!!! Rodgers needs to DEMAND A TRADE NOW!!!!


https://youtu.be/oK9gLkXe0xw

[GB-Brandon]

I already told you man about derailing thread topics. This is about the new DC not how you feel about draft picks. I can’t ignore things because I like you. We have to consider what the majority here says and right now it doesn’t look good for ole Brandon. Just stay on topic is all you gotta do, por favor. You appear to have taken the role of heel from AntiPolarbear aka Tank aka the white DB who shutdown Darren Charles in the performance of a lifetime. Someone had to do it.

This hire is the worst news possible man.

[Sparkey]

Ejiro Evero! Say it with me everybody!

It's the guy we will regret not having.

[George Cumby]

I already told you man about derailing thread topics. This is about the new DC not how you feel about draft picks. I can’t ignore things because I like you. We have to consider what the majority here says and right now it doesn’t look good for ole Brandon. Just stay on topic is all you gotta do, por favor. You appear to have taken the role of heel from AntiPolarbear aka Tank aka the white DB who shutdown Darren Charles in the performance of a lifetime. Someone had to do it.

Tank has actually chilled out quite a bit.

Often his posts border on farcical self-parody, which is appreciated as it reflects growth.

He's even funny at times.

[Bretsky]

This hire is the worst news possible man.



I find you very entertaining and funny

[Upnorth]

I find you very entertaining and funny

I think they screwed up as well. He was working with poor talent in detroit but that was a historically bad d.

[GB-Brandon]

I think they screwed up as well. He was working with poor talent in detroit but that was a historically bad d.

Worst 3rd down defense in the entire league @ Washington.

[MadtownPacker]

This hire is the worst news possible man.
That’s fine, but don’t ignore what I am telling you or I will put you on “ignore” except it will be the whole forum who doesn’t see you anymore. Throw me a fucking bone here man.

[GB-Brandon]

He had Players questioning defensive calls in the media. Guys starting to do their own things on plays. In both places his relationship with some players was stretched and now he is even older. Like I said he is a “Walking Disaster” as far as a DC. There is even film of him apologizing to players at halftime saying it was his fault and they would clean it up on “Monday.” Yeah, “Monday.” LOL!!! It’s too much for him. I’m sure he was an okay “Passing Game Coordinator” which is way way different then trying to come in and being “The Man” trying to get the Packers Defense over the hump. These other Cats deserved a shot way before him with Richard having a much better resume.

This just feels so wrong all the way around.

[GB-Brandon]

That’s fine, but don’t ignore what I am telling you or I will put you on “ignore” except it will be the whole forum who doesn’t see you anymore. Throw me a fucking bone here man.

Okay.