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Guiness
10-31-2021, 10:12 AM
I saw the Pack mentioned at PFT as a possible trade destination for Odell Beckham Jr before next Tuesday. Anyone seen that elsewhere?

I'm sure I don't know how that would work cap wise, but teams can generally make it happen if they want to.

George Cumby
10-31-2021, 10:56 AM
No thanks.

smuggler
10-31-2021, 12:56 PM
He can't get open. So we don't want him.

Anti-Polar Bear
10-31-2021, 02:42 PM
He can't get open. So we don't want him.

More like Mayfield can’t get him the rock. OBJ’s still a great route runner; think Greg Jennings with more speed.

smuggler
10-31-2021, 02:53 PM
I've watched numerous Browns games the last few years. OBJ now is slower than Jennings (at his best), and can't get open. He can stay on the Browns, especially given his salary, let alone what we'd have to give up in a trade.

Anti-Polar Bear
10-31-2021, 03:04 PM
I've watched numerous Browns games the last few years. OBJ now is slower than Jennings (at his best), and can't get open. He can stay on the Browns, especially given his salary, let alone what we'd have to give up in a trade.

You can go root for the Browns WHEN the Packers trade for OBJ. :)

HarveyWallbangers
10-31-2021, 03:43 PM
I've watched numerous Browns games the last few years. OBJ now is slower than Jennings (at his best), and can't get open. He can stay on the Browns, especially given his salary, let alone what we'd have to give up in a trade.

True. He was barely faster than Jennings coming out, and after an ankle injury, quad injury, and torn ACL, he isn’t as fast as Jennings was here. I still think he has value. Mayfield just isn’t that good, and has missed him open a lot. With his salary and injury history though, I’d stay away.

Guiness
10-31-2021, 05:20 PM
I'm not in love with the idea, but it's looking more like the Pack needs a replacement for MVS and a a mid-season move to a contender might motivate him. He has no guarantees for 2022 so he could be cut loose with no dead cap after the season. Cap hit for this year would be in the neighbourhood of $7m.

Smuggler's comments that he's lost a step are concerning.

bobblehead
10-31-2021, 07:05 PM
I sat at a BJ table with OBJ. Staff had to hammer him to pull his mask up every 10 seconds. A week later I see him in the news complaining that the NFL should cancel the season for the safety of its players. Fuck that douche!! (This was Julyish 2020)

Anti-Polar Bear
10-31-2021, 07:13 PM
I sat at a BJ table with OBJ. Staff had to hammer him to pull his mask up every 10 seconds. A week later I see him in the news complaining that the NFL should cancel the season for the safety of its players. Fuck that douche!! (This was Julyish 2020)

How the fuck one’s supposed to give a BJ with a fucking mask on?

smuggler
10-31-2021, 09:04 PM
Plus there is that whole poop thing...

RashanGary
10-31-2021, 10:15 PM
Davante is a legit #1

After that we probably have 3 #3’s in MVS, Lazard and Cobb.

Missing Tonyan means we’re gonna need some injury luck the rest of the way. Lazard plays a similar role to Tonyan so I think we’ll be ok.

King Friday
11-01-2021, 06:43 AM
I would take Cooks over OBJ if I had to make a choice in getting another WR. However, I wouldn't take either, as I think the chances of us not having Adams, Lazard and MVS active in the same game again this season is remote. I would rather find a TE or more depth in the secondary.

run pMc
11-01-2021, 09:52 AM
True. He was barely faster than Jennings coming out, and after an ankle injury, quad injury, and torn ACL, he isn’t as fast as Jennings was here. I still think he has value. Mayfield just isn’t that good, and has missed him open a lot. With his salary and injury history though, I’d stay away.

Agree with this. All those injuries are going to rob him of speed/quickness. At his age and salary, I'd think there are younger, healthier, cheaper, as-good options. He's a marquee name, but I'm not sure he has marquee production or athleticism anymore. Besides, they need a pass-catching TE more than a WR... Davante, MVS, and Lazard are coming back. Tonyan isn't (this year).

smuggler
11-04-2021, 05:04 PM
OBJ being poopy in the locker room, in addition to in the bedroom. Seems like he needs some psych meds.

Cheesehead Craig
11-05-2021, 09:02 AM
Now we don't have to trade for him. So is he worth it now?

bobblehead
11-05-2021, 09:25 AM
Well, if you want to add to the current teams circus bring him in. Personally I'd pass on a guy who acts like he is still a premier receiver but in reality is not.

Joemailman
11-05-2021, 09:43 AM
Now we don't have to trade for him. So is he worth it now?

He goes on waivers. Packers are 28th on the waiver list. OBJ's base salary is 14.5M unless Browns restructured the deal before releasing him.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-05-2021, 10:00 AM
Unfortunately for the Pack, OBJ will be a Saint, which - according Bobble - should be impossible b/c the Saints are in a “cap hell.”

There’s no such shit as a “cap hell” anymore. Trust me on this. I’ve passed the Wisconsin CPA exams.

NewsBruin
11-05-2021, 10:06 AM
He goes on waivers. Packers are 28th on the waiver list. OBJ's base salary is 14.5M unless Browns restructured the deal before releasing him.

I read this morning that Junior's salary was converted to a signing bonus for cap relief, which would reduce him to veteran-minimum salary. I'm not sure how recent that is, but I believe it means all that converted salary is stuck on the Brownies' cap and not on whomever picks him up.

Tony Oday
11-05-2021, 10:06 AM
Still don't want him.

Guiness
11-05-2021, 10:32 AM
He goes on waivers. Packers are 28th on the waiver list. OBJ's base salary is 14.5M unless Browns restructured the deal before releasing him.

Browns and OBJ are reportedly restructuring the deal in order to minimize the Brown's cap impact, but as PFT pointed out they have to be careful if he wants to pick his next destination. He could get claimed by the Jets (or worse, the Giants!) a la Randy Moss to Tennessee.


The two sides are believed to have agreed on a revised contract that presumably limits the team’s financial obligation to Beckham and/or spreads some of the cap burden to future years by converting some of the salary into a signing bonus. The negotiations undoubtedly tried to find a sweet spot that would reduce Beckham’s pay from Cleveland in order to allow him to get his wish to play elsewhere. At some point, however, the remaining salary becomes sufficiently low to entice a team to claim Beckham on waivers. Perhaps a team for which Beckham doesn’t want to play.

call_me_ishmael
11-05-2021, 10:48 AM
LFG. I would do this for sure. The name of the game is the super bowl, nothing else matters this year as it's getting blown up after the season anyway and a rebuild. This is the kind of move that can be the difference between winning and losing the NFCC.

Fritz
11-05-2021, 11:26 AM
Still don't want him.

Me neither. Dude's a fuckin' tuna fish.

Joemailman
11-05-2021, 05:14 PM
Adam Schefter

Additionally, any team that claims Odell Beckham Jr. would inherit $7.25 million of salary for the remainder of the season, per sources. The cost is considered high for a player that now will be considered a rental with this being the last year of his contract.

Freak Out
11-05-2021, 06:08 PM
Please no.

smuggler
11-05-2021, 06:52 PM
Browns and OBJ are reportedly restructuring the deal in order to minimize the Brown's cap impact, but as PFT pointed out they have to be careful if he wants to pick his next destination. He could get claimed by the Jets (or worse, the Giants!) a la Randy Moss to Tennessee.

How? I understand converting base salary to bonus, but the opposite shouldn't be possible.

Only thing that makes sense is converting future year base salary to current season. But that doesn't help the Browns, it just makes him harder to fit on good teams this year at that contract.

NewsBruin
11-05-2021, 07:39 PM
Two sites showed OBJ's 2021 salary as $15 million. The ~$7.5 figure looks to be only his remaining game checks. I have no idea what maneuvering could be done, maybe converting his 2022 (maybe 2023) to a voidable year(s) that immediately gets voided.

Maybe I'm just thinking too hard. Wouldn't the Giants have had to eat his signing bonus when they traded him to Cleveland?

Sparkey
11-05-2021, 08:51 PM
Singing bonus yes, but roster bonuses and others are not recognized until earned.

Either way, not a guy I would sign.

run pMc
11-06-2021, 05:14 PM
Two sites showed OBJ's 2021 salary as $15 million. The ~$7.5 figure looks to be only his remaining game checks. I have no idea what maneuvering could be done, maybe converting his 2022 (maybe 2023) to a voidable year(s) that immediately gets voided.

Maybe I'm just thinking too hard. Wouldn't the Giants have had to eat his signing bonus when they traded him to Cleveland?

IIRC the Giants did eat the bonus. They paid him $20.5M for 12 games before dealing him. Tells you what they thought of him.
He's been hurt so much I wouldn't touch him for $7.5M, plus the packers don't have that much cap space anyway.

smuggler
11-06-2021, 06:10 PM
The conversion of salary to roster bonus is to protect the Browns. It was agreed to by Beckham's representation. It means they expect him to go unclaimed on waivers.

Assuming he is not claimed: The Browns will pay him $4mil instead of $7mil for the remaining contract in 2021. If and when he is signed, the Browns will now be required to pay the difference in his remaining salary up to that $4 million threshold.

In other words, Odell Beckham paid $3million to not play for the Browns again.

If he's claimed, it's all academic.

beveaux1
11-07-2021, 10:05 AM
Rumor was that the Saints kicked the tires on him Tuesday, but didn't make a deal. They probably wanted the Browns to eat almost all the salary for the remainder of the deal.

Not likely to be picked up by anyone on waivers. Saints might take him for league minimum after he clears.

smuggler
11-07-2021, 10:24 AM
What the Saints could really use is a quarterback. I can only imagine how frustrated a peabrain like Odell Beckham would get while receiving "passes" from the golden arm of Trevor Siemian.

Joemailman
11-07-2021, 06:32 PM
Browns sure missed OBJ.

smuggler
11-07-2021, 06:43 PM
Addition by subtraction.

Really though, Nick Cubb being back made a world of difference.

call_me_ishmael
11-09-2021, 10:36 PM
Come here papi.

Joemailman
11-09-2021, 10:40 PM
Reports OBJ would like to come to Green Bay. He must be impressed with Jordan Love.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-10-2021, 12:05 AM
Reports OBJ would like to come to Green Bay. He must be impressed with Jordan Love.

This is getting me excited. Get it done, German Shepherd!

I bet back in the days, alotta uncool Pack fans said they didn’t want Bad Moon Risen either. The Packers currently lack a bona fide #2 wideout. OBJ would be that guy.

Tony Oday
11-10-2021, 05:53 AM
Where does a slow, can't get open, cancer fit on this team? He can't block so he doesn't take Lazards spot, he isn't fast, so not MVSs spot, he thinks he is the greatest so do we bench DA?

King Friday
11-10-2021, 07:34 AM
OBJ? Hard no. The dude had to make ridiculous one handed grabs back when he was healthy to get catches. Now that he's lost speed, he won't even be able to do that. The Browns consistently played better as an offense over recent years when OBJ wasn't on the field. He's not even a capable #2 anymore.

RashanGary
11-10-2021, 08:45 AM
This is getting me excited. Get it done, German Shepherd!

I bet back in the days, alotta uncool Pack fans said they didn’t want Bad Moon Risen either. The Packers currently lack a bona fide #2 wideout. OBJ would be that guy.

You were like 13 years old

Sparkey
11-10-2021, 08:56 AM
OBJ? Hard no. The dude had to make ridiculous one handed grabs back when he was healthy to get catches. Now that he's lost speed, he won't even be able to do that. The Browns consistently played better as an offense over recent years when OBJ wasn't on the field. He's not even a capable #2 anymore.

Josh Reynolds would be better then OBJ and I'm not sure if he makes the Packers better.

Fritz
11-10-2021, 09:12 AM
Josh Reynolds would be better then OBJ and I'm not sure if he makes the Packers better.

But WDAW?

What Does Aaron Want?

Joemailman
11-10-2021, 09:27 AM
Dianna Russini
@diannaESPN

On the day in which he could make his final decision, free-agent WR Odell Beckham Jr. is honing in on the Chiefs, Packers and Saints, per league sources.

beveaux1
11-10-2021, 09:30 AM
I’m betting on the Saints. Packers probably won’t make an offer.

Joemailman
11-10-2021, 09:34 AM
I’m betting on the Saints. Packers probably won’t make an offer.

Of the 3 teams, Saints need him the most. But potentially from OBJ's view, Saints have the least attractive QB situation.

call_me_ishmael
11-10-2021, 09:55 AM
I think he'll be a Packer. Which of those three teams have the best shot at a chip? GB for sure. I also think the narrative that he is washed up will prove wrong. He will be an electric Packer. At least I hope haha.

NewsBruin
11-10-2021, 10:08 AM
Meh.

Sparkey
11-10-2021, 10:14 AM
Have MVS and Lazard hit their ceilings? Odell's got talent, but I feel like we never max out the talent we've got.

We will probably never know as Rodgers seems to have decided that it is TAE all the way, even if other guys are open.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-10-2021, 10:30 AM
You were like 13 years old

And couldn’t wait to grow up. Now that I’m, sadly, nearing 40 and still flipping burgers, wish I could still be wearing American Eagle cloths at the prime age of 21.

Btw, weren’t you the first one here to suggest that Lazard move to TE? Would be perfect now if Pack could get OBJ in the Green and Musta Yella.

Get OBJ in the Green and Musta Yella!

Anti-Polar Bear
11-10-2021, 10:40 AM
But WDAW?

What Does Aaron Want?

J-Love’s infamous debut is a testament to the notion that A-Rod should get what he wants in cold, dark and dull Green Bay.

In a win now league, without Butte, German Shepherd, Alfred E Neuman and Frog are merely getting terminated by a vicious - yet stoic - terminator from the future. The 3 Stooges need Butte like John Conner needs his mother.

If Butte wants OBJ, Butte gets OBJ. And based on a recent tweet from the goddmaned media puke, Bob McGinn, Butte wants OBJ.

Fritz
11-10-2021, 10:45 AM
J-Love’s infamous debut is a testament to the notion that A-Rod should get what he wants in cold, dark and dull Green Bay.

In a win now league, without Butte, German Shepherd, Alfred E Neuman and Frog are merely getting terminated by a vicious - yet stoic - terminator from the future. The 3 Stooges need Butte like John Conner needs his mother.

If Butte wants OBJ, Butte gets OBJ. And based on a recent tweet from the goddmaned media puke, Bob McGinn, Butte wants OBJ.

IF this is true, and IF the Packers somehow sign OBJ to satisfy Rodgers, then this is what the future of the Packer organization looks like, vis-a-vis Rodgers:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2e/85/7f/2e857f87d3563b0b28e765fe632d3cc0.jpg

King Friday
11-10-2021, 10:53 AM
Butte wants to dry hump Joe Rogan too, but the Packers aren't hiring Rogan too be the team doctor.

Fritz
11-10-2021, 10:57 AM
Butte wants to dry hump Joe Rogan too, but the Packers aren't hiring Rogan too be the team doctor.

The season isn't over, King.

I wonder if this recent stuff with Rodgers is causing the team to re-evaluate the idea of bringing Rodgers back for a longer term contract. How much bending over will the team continually have to do in order to appease him?

It's one thing to listen to his suggestions about players. It's another to cover for his ass because he wants to be disingenous about the vaccine. And if they covered for him on that one, will that embolden him to become more demanding? In my experience, the answer is yes.

Packer organization has to decide if it's going to be Neville Chamberlain or Winston Churchill.

King Friday
11-10-2021, 11:14 AM
In all honesty, a one year vet minimum contract wouldn't upset me. I don't think he's a difference maker any more, but he has a whole lot of incentive to play high caliber football because he won't get another big contract in the league until he does. I'm not sure OBJ would take that deal. That would certainly test his desire to play in Green Bay, but I suppose it would be possible.

Tony Oday
11-10-2021, 11:56 AM
looks like we offered Vet minimum

Anti-Polar Bear
11-10-2021, 11:58 AM
IF this is true, and IF the Packers somehow sign OBJ to satisfy Rodgers, then this is what the future of the Packer organization looks like, vis-a-vis Rodgers:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2e/85/7f/2e857f87d3563b0b28e765fe632d3cc0.jpg

Future looks like fetish porn?

George Cumby
11-10-2021, 11:59 AM
looks like we offered Vet minimum

That price point makes it worth a shot.

Tony Oday
11-10-2021, 12:18 PM
That price point makes it worth a shot.

Seems too high...

texaspackerbacker
11-10-2021, 12:31 PM
Here we go again with the silly hysterical shit about Rodgers. .

I seriously doubt Rodgers wants Beckham, at least not enough to make a big deal about it. I also seriously doubt the team somehow changed their mind and/or doesn't want Rodgers back.

I wouldn't complain if they signed Beckham as that would mean the team did due diligence and decided he's worth a shot. My best guess, though, is they decide against getting him.

Bretsky
11-10-2021, 12:38 PM
Here we go again with the silly hysterical shit about Rodgers. .

I seriously doubt Rodgers wants Beckham, at least not enough to make a big deal about it. I also seriously doubt the team somehow changed their mind and/or doesn't want Rodgers back.

I wouldn't complain if they signed Beckham as that would mean the team did due diligence and decided he's worth a shot. My best guess, though, is they decide against getting him.




REPORTS out of GB is they are offering OBJ the minimal one year contract.

To be quite honest, THIS is a golden opportunity for Gutebag to get show Rodgers some love by getting AROD's viewpoints on whether or not to pursue Beckham and act like it's a team in moving ahead on this

bobblehead
11-10-2021, 12:46 PM
REPORTS out of GB is they are offering OBJ the minimal one year contract.

To be quite honest, THIS is a golden opportunity for Gutebag to get show Rodgers some love by getting AROD's viewpoints on whether or not to pursue Beckham and act like it's a team in moving ahead on this

How do you know Rodgers WANTS OBJ on his team? There are a lot of WR with declining skills they can sign, why this one?

bobblehead
11-10-2021, 12:48 PM
Butte wants to dry hump Joe Rogan too, but the Packers aren't hiring Rogan too be the team doctor.

Yet.....

Anti-Polar Bear
11-10-2021, 12:57 PM
I don’t get the hate for OBJ. Tony O’Day, I get: the fishmonger hates OBJ b/c OBJ engages in interracial relationships. But I don’t seem to recall reading anything about OBJ, outside of the rye, physically/sexually assaulting anyone, selling/doing dopes, driving drunk or touting guns.

In the rye, OBJ is a prima donna. But guess what? All hotshot WRs are prima donnas nowadays. Even the Fresno FREAK. Humble, hard-working, blue-collar wideouts like Jerry Rice and Jordy Nelson are extinct.

Upnorth
11-10-2021, 02:11 PM
Hasn't there been reports of obj freelancing on routes? If so he will not get a single target.
If I'm wrong on the freelancing he is a good vet min pickup

pittstang5
11-10-2021, 02:14 PM
I don’t get the hate for OBJ. Tony O’Day, I get: the fishmonger hates OBJ b/c OBJ engages in interracial relationships. But I don’t seem to recall reading anything about OBJ, outside of the rye, physically/sexually assaulting anyone, selling/doing dopes, driving drunk or touting guns.

In the rye, OBJ is a prima donna. But guess what? All hotshot WRs are prima donnas nowadays. Even the Fresno FREAK. Humble, hard-working, blue-collar wideouts like Jerry Rice and Jordy Nelson are extinct.

Don't forget Larry Fitzgerald

Joemailman
11-10-2021, 02:17 PM
Hasn't there been reports of obj freelancing on routes? If so he will not get a single target.
If I'm wrong on the freelancing he is a good vet min pickup

Don't know, but it's possible. Mayfield only had 50% completion pct. this year when targeting OBJ. 70% to everyone else.

Tony Oday
11-10-2021, 02:37 PM
If DA and AR think OJB can be a help and he signs I will cheer for him, I would really like to see a SB this year!

Bretsky
11-10-2021, 03:53 PM
How do you know Rodgers WANTS OBJ on his team? There are a lot of WR with declining skills they can sign, why this one?


I don't, and personally I don't want him.

But with the being said, it's a time for Gutebag to seek bonding time with AROD to massage his nutsack and increase the chances he comes back

Guiness
11-10-2021, 04:16 PM
Don't know, but it's possible. Mayfield only had 50% completion pct. this year when targeting OBJ. 70% to everyone else.

I saw another stat that said only ~60% of the balls thrown to OBJ were rated as catchable, so that seems about right.

The bigger question is why are those two numbers so low? Because OBJ was not where he was supposed to be or because Mayfield can't make the downfield throws?

HarveyWallbangers
11-10-2021, 07:49 PM
The two games that I saw Cleveland, Mayfield missed OBJ a lot. The guy still has more than enough speed and quickness to get open.

HarveyWallbangers
11-10-2021, 07:51 PM
Don't know, but it's possible. Mayfield only had 50% completion pct. this year when targeting OBJ. 70% to everyone else.

Mayfield is woefully inaccurate down the field. That could explain the difference. Mayfield’s completion percentage to other receivers is inflated by dumpoffs to his RBs.

45 completions to RBs.
41 to Njoku and Hooper.
Landry is a possession receiver.

More than 10 yards down the field, Mayfield stinks.

Fritz
11-11-2021, 08:50 AM
Okay, from what I read this morning on Acme, no team has any real reason to offer more than the vet's minimum, because whatever salary he is paid by whomever signs him will be simply deducted from the 4.25 million the Browns are paying him for the rest of this season. So if you offer him the vet minimum, OBJ still gets 4.25 million - your team pays the vet minimum, and the Browns cover the rest. You pay OBJ 3 million, and again, your team pays that amount, and the Browns pony up for the rest up to that 4.25 million mark.

So unless a team wants to offer OBJ over 4.25 million for the rest of the year, then OBJ's choice won't be about the money but about where he wants to play. Sounds like it's either KC, NO, or GB.

George Cumby
11-11-2021, 09:50 AM
He's got no one to throw him the ball in NO, so it's KC or GB.

smuggler
11-11-2021, 10:56 AM
Sucks for the Saints, but they're fucked and Beckham probably knows as much, but it *is* the hometown team for him.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-11-2021, 11:11 AM
Okay, from what I read this morning on Acme, no team has any real reason to offer more than the vet's minimum, because whatever salary he is paid by whomever signs him will be simply deducted from the 4.25 million the Browns are paying him for the rest of this season. So if you offer him the vet minimum, OBJ still gets 4.25 million - your team pays the vet minimum, and the Browns cover the rest. You pay OBJ 3 million, and again, your team pays that amount, and the Browns pony up for the rest up to that 4.25 million mark.

So unless a team wants to offer OBJ over 4.25 million for the rest of the year, then OBJ's choice won't be about the money but about where he wants to play. Sounds like it's either KC, NO, or GB.

Actually, your source erred. There’s no offsetting voodoo.

OBJ’s restructured contract with Cleveland prior to his release calls for OBJ to get “termination” pay, meaning whichever team OBJ signs with next, he gets to “double-dip.” In other words, OBJ gets the 4.25 M PLUS whatever his new team pays him. If, say, Pack sign OBJ for $1M for the rest of the season, OBJ gets $5.25M.

Note that Cleveland saved about $3M in cash via the restructure and OBJ’s subsequent release. Unless he can get somebody to pay him $3M for 8 or 9 games, OBJ actually will lose frogskins.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-11-2021, 11:23 AM
Don't forget Larry Fitzgerald

Dude was classy.

Fritz
11-11-2021, 11:49 AM
Actually, your source erred. There’s no offsetting voodoo.

OBJ’s restructured contract with Cleveland prior to his release calls for OBJ to get “termination” pay, meaning whichever team OBJ signs with next, he gets to “double-dip.” In other words, OBJ gets the 4.25 M PLUS whatever his new team pays him. If, say, Pack sign OBJ for $1M for the rest of the season, OBJ gets $5.25M.

Note that Cleveland saved about $3M in cash via the restructure and OBJ’s subsequent release. Unless he can get somebody to pay him $3M for 8 or 9 games, OBJ actually will lose frogskins.

Here's the quote from the article by "Tex" Western of the Acme Packing Company:

"Given the context of Beckham’s contract with the Cleveland Browns, which was just terminated when he cleared waivers on Tuesday, the Packers and other teams around the NFL have no reason to offer him more than that minimum. This is because his Browns contract has offset language in it, according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler. The Browns owe Beckham $4.25 million (down from $7.25 million, thanks to a deal they made with him prior to waiving him), but the amount Cleveland owes will be reduced by whatever compensation he receives from a new team over the remainder of this season.

Therefore, Beckham will get paid the same amount whether he were to sign in Green Bay for the veteran minimum or elsewhere, unless another team signs him to a contract worth more than the $4.25 million that the Browns owe."

So what is the source for your information? Maybe it's a better source. Where'd your info come from?

Anti-Polar Bear
11-11-2021, 12:18 PM
Here's the quote from the article by "Tex" Western of the Acme Packing Company:

"Given the context of Beckham’s contract with the Cleveland Browns, which was just terminated when he cleared waivers on Tuesday, the Packers and other teams around the NFL have no reason to offer him more than that minimum. This is because his Browns contract has offset language in it, according to ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler. The Browns owe Beckham $4.25 million (down from $7.25 million, thanks to a deal they made with him prior to waiving him), but the amount Cleveland owes will be reduced by whatever compensation he receives from a new team over the remainder of this season.

Therefore, Beckham will get paid the same amount whether he were to sign in Green Bay for the veteran minimum or elsewhere, unless another team signs him to a contract worth more than the $4.25 million that the Browns owe."

So what is the source for your information? Maybe it's a better source. Where'd your info come from?

Pat McAfee and Florio.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/11/09/browns-ultimately-will-pay-obj-another-4-25-million-as-termination-pay/amp/

smuggler
11-11-2021, 02:47 PM
So he's getting the money from the Browns no matter what, and everything he gets from the new team is gravy. That probably eliminates the Saints since they have no room with the cap.

Fosco33
11-11-2021, 02:52 PM
Sounds like he’s going to the Rams

Bretsky
11-11-2021, 02:59 PM
I don't really care if we get him; I kind of hope he goes to New England so nobody we could play gets a competitive advantage

call_me_ishmael
11-11-2021, 03:10 PM
Dude WTF why are we not landing folks like this? I fear this one will bite us in February.

Teamcheez1
11-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Dude WTF why are we not landing folks like this? I fear this one will bite us in February.

I don’t think you can lay any blame at the Packers feet if OBJ chooses to go elsewhere.

Bretsky
11-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Dude WTF why are we not landing folks like this? I fear this one will bite us in February.


Same risk as brining on Andre Bad Moon Rison; he could blow up the chemistry of the team iMO

Short term reward but there is character risk here

Guiness
11-11-2021, 03:29 PM
Rams have announced, renounced and re-announced signing him :huh:

bobblehead
11-11-2021, 03:32 PM
Let OBJ go implode one of our direct competitors like he has every other team he has been part of.

Fritz
11-11-2021, 04:03 PM
Did the Rams also offer the vet minimum? if so, it's obvious: LA > GB nightlife.

Vincenzo
11-11-2021, 04:37 PM
Did the Rams also offer the vet minimum? if so, it's obvious: LA > GB nightlife.
Screw him anyways, we'll smash his face in Green Bay soon.

pittstang5
11-11-2021, 05:40 PM
Did the Rams also offer the vet minimum? if so, it's obvious: LA > GB nightlife.

But does LA have an Applebees?

The Shadow
11-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Didn't want him so good. Team chemistry is valuable.

Joemailman
11-11-2021, 06:19 PM
But does LA have an Applebees?

Yes. But no Culver's. No Kwik Trip.

Freak Out
11-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Yes. But no Culver's. No Kwik Trip.

The insane custard place,

scharpcheddar
11-11-2021, 07:48 PM
Rams probably lose conference championship to Bucs

Sparkey
11-11-2021, 07:52 PM
And here I thought all these players were clamoring to play football with AR.

scharpcheddar
11-11-2021, 08:21 PM
And here I thought all these players were clamoring to play football with AR.

Players go where they are told.
OBJ in coast to coast major markets

Remember that stupid Reggie White story about the coach calling and saying "this is God".
That's nfl telling you that they actually decide

OBJ did a head and shoulders commercial vs Rams.
Predictive programming

smuggler
11-11-2021, 08:42 PM
Stafford is no slouch. He can get you the ball if you run a 50 yard route. Brady can't. Receivers value that.

bobblehead
11-11-2021, 09:07 PM
Yes. But no Culver's. No Kwik Trip.

When I get home I eat at Culvers nearly every day....and I don't even eat much fast food.

Bretsky
11-11-2021, 09:46 PM
The insane custard place,


But do that have an Oval Office where you can nibble caramel off............ :)

Anti-Polar Bear
11-12-2021, 12:04 AM
When I get home I eat at Culvers nearly every day....and I don't even eat much fast food.

Make sure to let me know so I can piss in your butter burger and shit on your cheese curds, you race-mixing, Black-paling, blond, bland upper middle class son of a beoytch! :)

Anti-Polar Bear
11-12-2021, 01:55 AM
Smuggler better right about OBJ being washed up. Lambs gonna be a load to fight if he’s wrong. We’ll get answers in a couple of weeks when the Lambs visit cold, dark and dull Green Bay.

Anti-Polar Bear
11-12-2021, 02:01 AM
Same risk as brining on Andre Bad Moon Rison; he could blow up the chemistry of the team iMO

Short term reward but there is character risk here

Chemistry? What, the Packers are a junior varsity squad at Sweet Valley High?

Chemistry in professional sports is overrated. If a “black” sheep can annihilate the sexual chemistry of a team, then that team is already fucked from the get-go.

Fuck chemistry. Do your fucking job!

SudsMcBucky
11-12-2021, 08:32 AM
Yes. But no Culver's. No Kwik Trip.

It's pretty clear OBJ likes In-N-Out better than Culver's.

Fritz
11-12-2021, 08:48 AM
And here I thought all these players were clamoring to play football with AR.


Now that's funny.

George Cumby
11-12-2021, 08:58 AM
It's pretty clear OBJ likes In-N-Out better than Culver's.

INO Burgers > Culver's Burgers

But nothing compares the Culver's custard.

bobblehead
11-12-2021, 09:34 AM
Make sure to let me know so I can piss in your butter burger and shit on your cheese curds, you race-mixing, Black-paling, blond, bland upper middle class son of a beoytch! :)

I'll wear my BLM t shirt and grunge look. You will probably be so happy to see a soul mate that you will give me extra curds and slip me a quart of that ice cream on the way out.

call_me_ishmael
11-12-2021, 10:02 AM
What does washed up even mean in this case? How can a 29 year old without significant injury history be washed up? He is an electric and special player, just a head case. I would have done this in a second.

SudsMcBucky
11-12-2021, 10:07 AM
What does washed up even mean in this case? How can a 29 year old without significant injury history be washed up? He is an electric and special player, just a head case. I would have done this in a second.

Although I would have done this deal, too, the Packers offered him. However, you're incorrect about "w/o significant injury history." He just tore his ACL in Oct. 2020, which a lot of people say has had a great affect on his speed and cutting.

Vincenzo
11-12-2021, 10:15 AM
Although I would have done this deal, too, the Packers offered him. However, you're incorrect about "w/o significant injury history." He just tore his ACL in Oct. 2020, which a lot of people say has had a great affect on his speed and cutting.
Yes.
"Based on reports, it's little wonder why Odell Beckham Jr. signed with the Los Angeles Rams instead of the Green Bay Packers."

Odell Beckham Jr.’s contract with the Los Angeles Rams could be worth up to $4.25 million, according to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport.
The Green Bay Packers reportedly offered Beckham the minimum.

Fritz
11-12-2021, 10:28 AM
No, no, no, not according to "Tex" Western at Acme. The Browns are paying the difference between what OBJ was offered and $4.25 million, which is the termination agreement the Browns reached with him. So unless somebody offered him more than 4.25 mill, money was not a factor.

So indeed, the In-n-Out Vs. Culver's debate is real. Though I think myself that a debate between Miss California and Miss Muskie would also play a role in OBJ's choice.

LA equals more exposure and probably about the same chance of getting to the SB as in Green Bay.

QBME
11-12-2021, 11:45 AM
But nothing compares the Culver's custard.

Gilles in Wauwatosa.

George Cumby
11-12-2021, 12:34 PM
But nothing compares the Culver's custard.

Gilles in Wauwatosa.

Next time I'm in Wauwatosa, I'll take you up on that! :-)

George Cumby
11-12-2021, 12:35 PM
Though I think myself that a debate between Miss California and Miss Muskie would also play a role in OBJ's choice.



Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

call_me_ishmael
11-12-2021, 01:20 PM
But nothing compares the Culver's custard.

Gilles in Wauwatosa.

Gillis chocolate custard with a piece of good cake on the side is hngggg

Freak Out
11-12-2021, 02:40 PM
But do that have an Oval Office where you can nibble caramel off............ :)

Dude....it's LA lol

That was a true Packer highlight my friend. Best $20 I ever spent. Was it $20? I don't remember now. I remember you protected that Favre jersey though. ha ha

Joemailman
11-12-2021, 06:51 PM
No, no, no, not according to "Tex" Western at Acme. The Browns are paying the difference between what OBJ was offered and $4.25 million, which is the termination agreement the Browns reached with him. So unless somebody offered him more than 4.25 mill, money was not a factor.

So indeed, the In-n-Out Vs. Culver's debate is real. Though I think myself that a debate between Miss California and Miss Muskie would also play a role in OBJ's choice.

LA equals more exposure and probably about the same chance of getting to the SB as in Green Bay.


You misspelled Musky

https://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb449/route25/muskyqueen.jpg

Anti-Polar Bear
11-13-2021, 11:41 AM
McAfee and Hawk said on the Punter Show that LaFleur wanted OBJ badly. Alas, Murphy and his personal trainer cap guy low-balled OBJ.

According to wiki, Murphy’s 66. Alas, the mandatory retirement age for the President of the Green Bay Futbol Club is 70.

smuggler
11-13-2021, 01:12 PM
OB has the excuse that Stafford ain't Rodgers if he doesn't shine in his season with the Rams. He doesn't have that excuse with Green Bay. The money in '22 onward was a factor in his choice.

He's not as horrible as he looked in Cleveland and he's not as good as he thinks he is. Where the needle falls within the pegs will be seen in the coming weeks.

HarveyWallbangers
11-13-2021, 01:33 PM
Culver’s butterburgers are solid, but I prefer Freddy’s steakburgers.

In-N-Out and 5 Guys are overrated.

beveaux1
11-13-2021, 03:51 PM
Woods with the Rams reportedly has an ACL tear. Looks like OBJ was needed pretty badly.

smuggler
11-13-2021, 04:45 PM
Brady back to his old tricks. RIP Bob Woods' knee.

George Cumby
11-13-2021, 05:14 PM
In-N-Out and 5 Guys are overrated.

At the price point, INO are not overrated, IMO.

5 Guys are overrated, even moreso at that price point.

Fritz
11-14-2021, 08:16 AM
In N Out is really pretty good - my wife and I tried that in Houston. Five Guys blows.

So I suppose if you're OBJ, the choice being in Green Bay and holding a Culver's burger in one hand and Miss Muskie 2009 in the other (okay, you could not hold her with one hand), or living in LA and holding an In N Out Burger in one hand while going In N Out on Miss California is really pretty obvious. And that's coming from someone who prefers In N Out burgers.

If Reggie White wasn't a religious guy he'd never have signed with Green Bay. Or maybe if he was religious like some of those televangelists, he would've signed with LA anyway ("God told me to sign with LA cuz the bitches and the burgers are hotter").

King Friday
11-16-2021, 05:24 AM
OBJ showed nothing special Monday night. He's washed up and the Packers were correct in not overpaying for him. The guy completely gave up on a route...just casually out for a stroll in Santa Clara...and SF got the pick. He thinks he's a great WR. He's mediocre at best at this point because he doesn't have the drive to be great.