Raiders Henry Ruggs To Be Charged With DUI Resulting In Death

[Joemailman]

https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-wr-henry-ruggs-iii-to-be-charged-with-dui-resulting-in-death


Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III will be charged with DUI resulting in the death of another person following his involvement in a traffic collision at approximately 3:39 a.m. PT on Tuesday in Las Vegas, according to police.

The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department announced Tuesday that officers responded to a traffic collision involving a Chevrolet Corvette and a Toyota Rav4. Responding officers located the Toyota Rav4 on fire, and fire department personnel located "a deceased victim inside the Toyota," according to authorities.

LVMPD identified the driver of the Chevrolet as Ruggs, who remained on the scene and "showed signs of impairment."

Ruggs was transported to a local hospital to be treated for non-life threatening injuries, per police.

"The Raiders are aware of an accident involving Henry Ruggs III that occurred this morning in Las Vegas," the Raiders said in a statement Tuesday. "We are devastated by the loss of life and our thoughts and prayers go out to the victim's family. We are in the process of gathering information and will have no further comment at this time."

[Sparkey]

https://www.nfl.com/news/raiders-wr-henry-ruggs-iii-to-be-charged-with-dui-resulting-in-death

From what I just read, the Rav4 was sitting at a red light and Ruggs' corvette plowed into the rear of the Rav4 causing it to burst into flames. :sad:

[Joemailman]

A life over. A career over.

[smuggler]

He's going to be in prison for a while. Not sure the Vegas laws, but in Florida DUI manslaughter is 15 years.

[call_me_ishmael]

Jesus, just shows you how scary it is that some idiot not paying attention or cocking off drinking can end your great life in a hurry.

How fast must a MOFO been going to kill a person *in a vehicle* at a stand still from behind?

[Joemailman]

He's going to be in prison for a while. Not sure the Vegas laws, but in Florida DUI manslaughter is 15 years.

https://www.shouselaw.com/nv/dui/laws/felony-dui/dui-causing-injury-or-death/

In Nevada, it a class B felony to drive under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs and thereby cause someone to suffer substantial bodily injury or death. Penalties include two to twenty years in prison, fines ranging from $2,000 to $5,000, and a three-year driver’s license suspension.

Since it resulted in death, I would think it will be closer to 20 years than 2.

[bobblehead]

I just talked to a girl this morning who drove past the firey aftermath. She was driving home from her job in a local casino. Had no idea it was Ruggs til I talked about the incident, then "Holy shit, I drove right past that. He had to be flying, it was a mess"

[bobblehead]

I just talked to a girl this morning who drove past the firey aftermath. She was driving home from her job in a local casino. Had no idea it was Ruggs til I talked about the incident, then "Holy shit, I drove right past that. He had to be flying, it was a mess"

If I had to guess he will be playing again before Gruden is coaching.....

[Sparkey]

If I had to guess he will be playing again before Gruden is coaching.....

So your saying most likely never.

[bobblehead]

So your saying most likely never.

I would bet he doesn't serve one day. He will get as much as they can throw at him while not actually interrupting his career. In comparison a 17 year old girl who got high fell asleep and swerved off the road and killed someone on community service duty picking up trash in the median. She got 20 years. But this is NV. Its a very corrupt state in regards to this kind of thing.

[RashanGary]

Oof. I feel for him. You think you’re gonna drive home and it’s no big deal and then something like this happens. Ugh.

[RashanGary]

I would bet he doesn't serve one day. He will get as much as they can throw at him while not actually interrupting his career. In comparison a 17 year old girl who got high fell asleep and swerved off the road and killed someone on community service duty picking up trash in the median. She got 20 years. But this is NV. Its a very corrupt state in regards to this kind of thing.

I’ll bet he does go to jail. OWIs have caused a lot of death and there are a bunch of lobby groups across the country like MADD and SADD and others that push for stricter penalties. A second OWI is worse than substantial battery the way it’s punished. One resulting in death is far worse.

[George Cumby]

I would bet he doesn't serve one day.

I'm afraid I agree with this.

[Joemailman]

I'm afraid I agree with this.

I don't. I think there would be too much of a public outcry if they try to give him preferential treatment because he's a Raider.

[George Cumby]

I don't. I think there would be too much of a public outcry if they try to give him preferential treatment because he's a Raider.

I really hope you are right, I really want to be wrong. I'm just cynical AF about these things anymore.

Without degrading into you-know-what, laws are enforced seemingly arbitrarily and sentences often don't make much sense. Don't get me going on sex crime sentencing......

[King Friday]

There is very little chance this kid gets off without time. There is little wiggle room with drunk driving these days, and the circumstances will make it very hard to put up a defense in court. He's very likely looking at 10 years behind bars at minimum.

[Guiness]

Welp, his lawyer is saying he doesn't believe Ruggs was impaired.


Weezy Raider
@RaiderWeezy
Ruggs lawyer said they need the blood results because he said he doesn't believe he was drunk, states he "seemed dazed and impaired" only because he was just in a car accident. #RaiderNation

Pack it up boys, we're done here!

smh. This happened at 3:30am, chances of him being sober are slim to none, and slim just left town

[smuggler]

Does it matter? He may be under the legal limit, but having any alcohol in your system is still a sign of recklessness, and since he was speeding, a second display of recklessness, and that recklessness resulted in a death, he can still be charged and convicted of criminal negligence, and quite possibly, manslaughter, DUI or no.

[bobblehead]

Oof. I feel for him. You think you’re gonna drive home and it’s no big deal and then something like this happens. Ugh.

He was FLYING. The crash scene indicates he may have been going over 100mph. Thats not "carefully driving" home.

But I stand corrected on one count. The Raiders cut him already. Bold move by Davis. I give him credit. Tyreek Hill keeps smackin bitches around and the Chiefs keep throwing him the rock.

[SudsMcBucky]

Oof. I feel for him. You think you’re gonna drive home and it’s no big deal and then something like this happens. Ugh.

You feel sorry for this jackass? I feel sorry for the people in the car ahead of him he drilled at probably 100mp while drunk.

[call_me_ishmael]

He was FLYING. The crash scene indicates he may have been going over 100mph. Thats not "carefully driving" home.

But I stand corrected on one count. The Raiders cut him already. Bold move by Davis. I give him credit. Tyreek Hill keeps smackin bitches around and the Chiefs keep throwing him the rock.

It is absolutely insane they still employ that dude and sort of a stain on the whole "Andy Reid is a great dude" narrative. Rashan Gary showing us as the resident idiot once again my godd.

[Joemailman]

You feel sorry for this jackass? I feel sorry for the people in the car ahead of him he drilled at probably 100mp while drunk.I think it's possible to feel sorry for someone who who made a disastrous, tragic decision while at the same time holding them responsible for their actions. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You feel sorry for this jackass? I feel sorry for the people in the car ahead of him he drilled at probably 100mp while drunk.

Well said.

[Guiness]

news just came out that he was more than 2x legal BAC (is it 0.08 in Nevada?), doing 157mph (wasn't this a fucking city street???) and had a loaded handgun in the car.

about that lawyer's statement...

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow.

[bobblehead]

Yea...157 on a surface street. Now I no longer think he won't do time. Time to get some prison ink Henry....and make sure you punch the biggest mutha fucker in the room on day 1.

Edit: I live right up the road from this. Maybe 4 miles. That is NOT an area where I would even do 80.

[hoosier]

This makes me rethink my ARod asshole comment in the other thread.

[call_me_ishmael]

I guess I just don't get the thought process. I can empathize with being like .10 or whatever and driving basically the speed limit and having an accident, maybe even like .12 (drunk and a half). I think if most people are being honest they've probably done this - I know I have in my younger years before Uber, etc existed. I _would not_ do it today because of Uber, etc.

But to be 2x the limit and obviously drunk paired with going fast as fuck - like what exactly is the thought process there?

[Guiness]

I guess I just don't get the thought process. I can empathize with being like .10 or whatever and driving basically the speed limit and having an accident, maybe even like .12 (drunk and a half). I think if most people are being honest they've probably done this - I know I have in my younger years before Uber, etc existed. I _would not_ do it today because of Uber, etc.

But to be 2x the limit and obviously drunk paired with going fast as fuck - like what exactly is the thought process there?

Maybe he was drinking tequila?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/jsMAAOSwXOhadLDJ/s-l500.jpg

[Sparkey]

I guess I just don't get the thought process. I can empathize with being like .10 or whatever and driving basically the speed limit and having an accident, maybe even like .12 (drunk and a half). I think if most people are being honest they've probably done this - I know I have in my younger years before Uber, etc existed. I _would not_ do it today because of Uber, etc.

But to be 2x the limit and obviously drunk paired with going fast as fuck - like what exactly is the thought process there?

"That won't happen to me." It is what everyone says before it happens to them. People seemingly fail to understand the consequences of ones actions. A simply phone call, a tap on your uber app or hire a driver before you go out drinking and someone would still be alive.

Have no sympathies for Ruggs. I do feel horrible for the person that lost their life and all the people in the persons life that are now dealing with the loss.

[RashanGary]

When I was 21 years old, my ex wife abd I were moving a piece of furniture. I was like, “pick it up, as in pick it up off the ground so it can move.” It seemed so easy for me, I could not understand how she was not able to pick that piece of furniture off the ground.

People who are naturally risk adverse cannot understand how someone who’s brain works differently could not calculate a risk. It’s so easy for them to see. But Henry Ruggs may be a good person who’s brain just doesn’t compute risk the same way.

Things that seem easy to us might not be so easy for the next guy. Everyone is built differently. When you really grow up, you start being able to put yourself in other peoples shoes and understand differences.

I’m ok with him going to jail or prison. He accidentally killed someone. But I’m not going to call him a bad person or gloat over his misfortune.

[call_me_ishmael]

You are one sick puppy Nustin Harrell. You need some help buddy. Please seek it.

[smuggler]

I think it's possible to feel sorry for someone who who made a disastrous, tragic decision while at the same time holding them responsible for their actions. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I agree with this 1000%. It's quite possible that Ruggs feels terrible, and honestly he should in the short term. Eventually he will have to find a way to deal with his choices and make the most of his life and try to make amends for his mistakes. It just won't be in the NFL that he accomplishes these things, if he ever does.

[MadScientist]

I’m ok with him going to jail or prison. He accidentally killed someone. But I’m not going to call him a bad person or gloat over his misfortune.
Nobody is gloating over his 'misfortune'. We are various levels of pissed and disgusted by his actions. He, and all the other god damned drunk drivers out there, need to have had it beaten into them that when they even think about drinking, someone else drives. Once they start drinking, its too late. Their ability to think about future consequences is gone. I am not going to waste any sympathy for anyone drinks, drives and kills someone.

[Sparkey]

The Las Vegas Raiders released WR Henry Ruggs this evening.

[George Cumby]

The Las Vegas Raiders released WR Henry Ruggs this evening.

Kind of a no brainer, but it's good to see the correct decision get made.

[bobblehead]

You are one sick puppy Nustin Harrell. You need some help buddy. Please seek it.

What was sick about his post? He is dead on correct. He was a moron, but he didn't willfully kill someone. He made a horrible choice. That does not make him a bad person, it makes him a person who wasn't intelligent enough to extapolate the consequences of his actions. Prison time. Indeed. But most of us let the Lord make final judgements in cases like this. If he stalked and strangled the girl...well, I'd probably judge him much more harshly. I'd declare he is evil and needs to be put down...however I would still concede the final judgement to the Big Guy.

[George Cumby]

Well.

Here you go.

I watched about fifteen seconds worth.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/qn8tlg/nfl_player_henry_ruggs_crashed_his_c8_corvette/

[call_me_ishmael]

Bobble. C'mon.


People who are naturally risk adverse cannot understand how someone who’s brain works differently could not calculate a risk. It’s so easy for them to see. But Henry Ruggs may be a good person who’s brain just doesn’t compute risk the same way.




Things that seem easy to us might not be so easy for the next guy. Everyone is built differently. When you really grow up, you start being able to put yourself in other peoples shoes and understand differences.

I’m ok with him going to jail or prison. He accidentally killed someone. But I’m not going to call him a bad person or gloat over his misfortune.

C'mon. Not a bad person for getting behind the wheel when hella drunk and driving 3x the speed limit. C'mon.

[hoosier]

Well.

Here you go.

I watched about fifteen seconds worth.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoahGetTheBoat/comments/qn8tlg/nfl_player_henry_ruggs_crashed_his_c8_corvette/

That is 15 secs more than I could bring myself to watch. Don't want to know how Ruggs feels. It was not an accident. To call it unintentional is to ignore the painfully obvious. I'm not talking about being three times over the legal limit. I am talking about driving in excess of 150mph on a city street with someone in the passenger seat. WTF. Being drunk does not explain what must have gone into that decision making process. Don't want to dignify the person by watching him suffer. Worst part of this story is hearing reports that the death of the woman driving the other car was far from instantaneous. Ugh.

[George Cumby]

Take the DUI out of it.

What if dude was stone cold sober and driving like that and killed someone? Reckless endangerment at the least.

I remember a case, in Illinois, I think, couple kids got Murder 2 for chucking cinder blocks off of freeway overpasses and killing a guy.

What's more reckless? Chucking a cinder block off an overpass or driving 150 mph while absolutely hammered?

Whole thing is so awful.

[George Cumby]

T Worst part of this story is hearing reports that the death of the woman driving the other car was far from instantaneous. Ugh.

Some kids I went to High School with died that way.

One of whom I used to hang out with a bit.

Fucking horrendous.

[hoosier]

Some kids I went to High School with died that way.

One of whom I used to hang out with a bit.

Fucking horrendous.

I know who you are talking about, I think. My younger sister was in their class as well if we're talking about the same kids.

[George Cumby]

I know who you are talking about, I think. My younger sister was in their class as well if we're talking about the same kids.

I think so.

Awful for so many.

[Joemailman]

The Las Vegas Raiders have waived cornerback Damon Arnette after a video emerged on social media which appeared to show Arnette holding up several guns and threatening to kill someone.

The 25-year-old Arnette, who has been on injured reserve since week 4 of the NFL season, was a Raiders' first-round pick out of Ohio State in 2020. He leaves the team having played 13 games over two seasons.
"Today, we waived Damon Arnette -- a very painful decision," Raiders General Manager Mike Mayock said on a conference call on Monday.
"We spent significant time, effort and resources trying to help him in all facets of his life. There have been a series of bad decisions over the last year or so, but we can't stand -- we cannot stand -- for the video of Damon with a gun, threatening to take a life."

Gotta just be surreal to be a follower of the Raiders this year. Amazing they're finding ways to win with everything swirling around them.

[texaspackerbacker]

If I was the Packers GM, I'd look into the possibility of picking up this 2nd year first round Corner for little or nothing. Sure, he misbehaved - in word, not deed, but if he isn't found to be a gang member or something like that, he deserves a second chance, and better with us than with somebody else - both for us and for him.

Joe, probably some people elsewhere are saying the same about Packer fans as you said about Raider fans.

[Joemailman]

If I was the Packers GM, I'd look into the possibility of picking up this 2nd year first round Corner for little or nothing. Sure, he misbehaved - in word, not deed, but if he isn't found to be a gang member or something like that, he deserves a second chance, and better with us than with somebody else - both for us and for him.

Joe, probably some people elsewhere are saying the same about Packer fans as you said about Raider fans.

No team will touch this guy right now, nor should they. He's had many incidents since being drafted, including crashing 4 rental cars in the span of a month. He's a danger to himself and others.

[Sparkey]

If I was the Packers GM, I'd look into the possibility of picking up this 2nd year first round Corner for little or nothing. Sure, he misbehaved - in word, not deed, but if he isn't found to be a gang member or something like that, he deserves a second chance, and better with us than with somebody else - both for us and for him.

Joe, probably some people elsewhere are saying the same about Packer fans as you said about Raider fans.


https://twitter.com/i/status/1456794767334023174

This is the person you think the Packers should add to the locker room ? Geesh :roll:

[RashanGary]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1456794767334023174

This is the person you think the Packers should add to the locker room ? Geesh :roll:

I can’t speak for tex exactly, but im pretty sure Tex didn’t realize how weird this guy is. Gosh, how does someone end up like that?

[Fritz]

"Dawg wtf is going on in Las Vegas? Look at Raiders CB Damon Arnette flexing a gun saying he gon kill somebody smh"

Tex, this dude would fit right in down in Texas.

[George Cumby]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1456794767334023174

This is the person you think the Packers should add to the locker room ? Geesh :roll:

"I will real-deal, kill you, nigga'."

It's poetry, really.

Who's he quoting?

Yeats? Bronte? Whitman? Dickinson? Frost?

I can't place it........

[texaspackerbacker]

Aw, don't you guys believe in second chances? hahahaha. No, RG, I didn't know - that's why I just said check him out, not leap to signing him - although I still might even do that, as he is apparently all talk and no action on the killing/hurting front, and who cares about the crashing rental cars thing?

The Raiders for generations - ever since they existed - had a bunch of questionable people, Alzado and a lot of others, who brought them success on the field. The Packers have had a few too - Rison and Glenn and Johnny Jolly and probably others. Often, when a trouble maker comes to nice heartland Green Bay, they forsake their rotten ways and shape up. If he doesn't, what do you risk by signing him and cutting him later - it's not like some 22 yr. old fool is gonna infect others on the team with his ways. It's a lot more likely that the solid citizens on the team will turn him into a good guy. And you can never have too many good Corners.

[cheesner]

Aw, don't you guys believe in second chances? hahahaha. No, RG, I didn't know - that's why I just said check him out, not leap to signing him - although I still might even do that, as he is apparently all talk and no action on the killing/hurting front, and who cares about the crashing rental cars thing?

The Raiders for generations - ever since they existed - had a bunch of questionable people, Alzado and a lot of others, who brought them success on the field. The Packers have had a few too - Rison and Glenn and Johnny Jolly and probably others. Often, when a trouble maker comes to nice heartland Green Bay, they forsake their rotten ways and shape up. If he doesn't, what do you risk by signing him and cutting him later - it's not like some 22 yr. old fool is gonna infect others on the team with his ways. It's a lot more likely that the solid citizens on the team will turn him into a good guy. And you can never have too many good Corners.
A telling clue is what Mayock said. He stated that the Raiders spent a lot of time and effort to get him to make better decisions. Tells me there were other events or red flags that the Raiders recognized as significant character issues.

He may still perform a self cranial-rectal extraction and get on track.

Just seems amazing to me that someone cannot recognize the opportunity before them.. An opportunity for wealth and fame that millions would kill for, and piss it away to behave like a street thug with no future.

[Joemailman]

A telling clue is what Mayock said. He stated that the Raiders spent a lot of time and effort to get him to make better decisions. Tells me there were other events or red flags that the Raiders recognized as significant character issues.

He may still perform a self cranial-rectal extraction and get on track.

Just seems amazing to me that someone cannot recognize the opportunity before them.. An opportunity for wealth and fame that millions would kill for, and piss it away to behave like a street thug with no future.

Raiders apparently knew there were issues when they drafted him.


Mayock acknowledged there was "significant concern" over Arnette's character coming out of college, but the Raiders felt they could help him on and off the field and knew the Ohio State coaching staff well enough to trust its advice and take on Arnette.

"At the time, we thought it was an acceptable risk ... after doing more homework on Arnette than anybody we've done in the years I've been here. And obviously, we missed, and that is 100% on me."

Guys like Arnette, if they're really talented usually get drafted. But not in the 1st round.

[texaspackerbacker]

Who would you rather take a chance on? Arnette or Beckham if neither is not an option? I'd gamble on Arnette.

[Fritz]

I'll take Lil Wayne.

[bobblehead]

The more I read on this case the more pissed I get. Ruggs girlfriend is yelling to bystanders for help because poor henry is hurting. No regard for the girl burning to death. His lawyers are trying to blame the fire department for being slow to respond (which I am in favor of said blame...however it shouldn't come from the Ruggs camp AT ALL). Of course meanwhile Rodgers might actually be getting more hate from talking heads than Ruggs is.

[Bretsky]

The more I read on this case the more pissed I get. Ruggs girlfriend is yelling to bystanders for help because poor henry is hurting. No regard for the girl burning to death. His lawyers are trying to blame the fire department for being slow to respond (which I am in favor of said blame...however it shouldn't come from the Ruggs camp AT ALL). Of course meanwhile Rodgers might actually be getting more hate from talking heads than Ruggs is.


I think Ruggs is hardly news; he got hammered and for the most part everybody wrote him off and he's going to jail.

Rodgers is still playing

[George Cumby]

The more I read on this case the more pissed I get. Ruggs girlfriend is yelling to bystanders for help because poor henry is hurting. No regard for the girl burning to death. His lawyers are trying to blame the fire department for being slow to respond (which I am in favor of said blame...however it shouldn't come from the Ruggs camp AT ALL). Of course meanwhile Rodgers might actually be getting more hate from talking heads than Ruggs is.

Rodgers played word games thinking he was the smartest MFer in the room. All he had to say was "Nunya' bidness" or what the fuck ever.

But he didn't kill some poor innocent woman and her doggo'.

So your point on what is getting covered is well taken.

[bobblehead]

Rodgers played word games thinking he was the smartest MFer in the room. All he had to say was "Nunya' bidness" or what the fuck ever.

But he didn't kill some poor innocent woman and her doggo'.

So your point on what is getting covered is well taken.

He could have told a knock knock joke: Who's there. Nunya.....

[Fritz]

The more I read on this case the more pissed I get. Ruggs girlfriend is yelling to bystanders for help because poor henry is hurting. No regard for the girl burning to death. His lawyers are trying to blame the fire department for being slow to respond (which I am in favor of said blame...however it shouldn't come from the Ruggs camp AT ALL). Of course meanwhile Rodgers might actually be getting more hate from talking heads than Ruggs is.

Well, yes, for a couple of reasons. First, Rodgers's comments on the vaccine are a hot-button topic that has the country divided, so his feeding that fire is naturally going to get him a lot of heat. On the contrary, as far as I can tell (so far), nobody is screaming that Rugg's rights are being violated. Nobody is (yet) saying that the government is stripping Rugg's right to do what he wants, because that's what the country is all about. So far we still agree that it's not okay to kill another person because you think you have the right to do whatever the hell you want to, including getting drunk and driving 150 mph in a residential neighborhood. So there's not much to say there.

Secondly, if you're suggesting hyposcrisy, then of course it's hypocritical. But sports in general is hypocritical. Should entertainers like Aaron Rodgers or Henry Ruggs get paid millions and millions of dollars when there are police and firefighters and nurses making peanuts and putting their lives on the line to actually protect us and save lives? You can justify that any way you want, but the bottom line is that in an economy that measures importance by dollars made, the decision to put an inordinate number of dollars into distractions like the NFL or television shows us what our priorities actually are.

[George Cumby]

but the bottom line is that in an economy that measures importance by dollars made, the decision to put an inordinate number of dollars into distractions like the NFL or television shows us what our priorities actually are.

Bread and Circuses, my Dude.

[Fritz]

How true that is.

Yet, my main concern at the moment is who's starting the game thread and whether the Packers' defense can play well again.

I'm part of the problem, no doubt.

[George Cumby]

LOL.

Me too. People do need distractions from the grind. And the NFL can be pretty fun and entertaining.

Since you're here, perhaps you should take the mantle?

[Fritz]

LOL.

Me too. People do need distractions from the grind. And the NFL can be pretty fun and entertaining.

Since you're here, perhaps you should take the mantle?

I did have an impressive winning streak back in 2016.

But I thought Joe was taking it on. If I don't see something soon, I will.

[George Cumby]

Joe started the Week One thread.

Inauspicious.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Go for it, Fritz.

I have a GameDay thread, one that’s mostly about Olivia Rodrigo and her awesome song “Brutal,” ready to post. But I’ll let you do the honor. Don’t forget to remind us of the greatness of the U of Michigan. :)

[Fritz]

Go for it, Fritz.

I have a GameDay thread, one that’s mostly about Olivia Rodrigo and her awesome song “Brutal,” ready to post. But I’ll let you do the honor. Don’t forget to remind us of the greatness of the U of Michigan. :)

Not so sure about the ol' U of M's greatness, but I will start that thread.

Olivia Rodrigo was an industry-generated star.