Official Official Packers at Chiefs GameDay Thread:

[Bretsky]

So what’s the skinny on Love? Haven’t watched.


He look about what a 3rd string QB should look like

[beveaux1]

The defense has played well, but I think the Chiefs offense is just kind of bad.

[Joemailman]

Biggest difference in this game is special teams. Not quarterbacks.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think packers could drive 95 yards if they had 5 downs every series.

Still, unleash Love! can't wait until long yardage to pass

[George Cumby]

Surely you must be joking.

No. And don't call me Shirley.

[King Friday]

MLF needs to start making calls that take advantage of KCs aggressiveness. Just have Love chuck the ball 40 yards downfield. I'll take out WRs vs their DBs in any 1v1 matchup.

[beveaux1]

Newman needs to be replaced.

[King Friday]

Ouch.

[beveaux1]

MLF needs to start making calls that take advantage of KCs aggressiveness. Just have Love chuck the ball 40 yards downfield. I'll take out WRs vs their DBs in any 1v1 matchup.

Or call a TE screen.

[Teamcheez1]

I’m betting on the shutout

[beveaux1]

I’m betting on the shutout

Looks like a good bet.

[Joemailman]

Surprised they haven't utilized TE's more.

[Bretsky]

Biggest difference in this game is special teams. Not quarterbacks.

well our offense can't move the ball consistently. And KC is not really good

[George Cumby]

I’m betting on the shutout

I reckon.

[Tony Oday]

Love needs to be released.

[King Friday]

Biggest difference in this game is special teams. Not quarterbacks.

Correct. If you are going to ride a noob QB into a hostile environment, you can't start at your own 8 yard line on a consistent basis.

[texaspackerbacker]

The question is not, is Love gonna lose it? The question is, is he gonna win it - as Rodgers for sure would in a game like this.

Things could be worse. We should be back to normal next week. K.C. is sputtering and there's no obvious reason why or cure. Dallas, Buffalo, San Fran, etc. turned to shit today, without the obvious reason the Packers have.

[Bretsky]

Really nice pass by Love there to Adams

[Fosco33]

This game has been 2 things - ST errors and both offenses not sustaining drives. Chiefs are 5/16 on 3rd/4th down. But their punter is crushing us with +20 yards avg starting field. Run game has been ok/good. Need to have some simple plays to get a few drives.

Not totally out of this yet. Have to get points here.

[Teamcheez1]

First pass complete 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage

[George Cumby]

Love needs to be released.

Get real.

[King Friday]

That is why you don't release Love. He isn't horrible.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Aaron who?

[George Cumby]

That was a fucking dart.

[Joemailman]

Love needs to be released.

APB might be right about you.

[texaspackerbacker]

The pressure is actually on K.C. at this point hahahaha.

[George Cumby]

APB might be right about you.

Hahahahahaha

[George Cumby]

Love has chilled out.

[George Cumby]

Do we get to see Spleen El Camino?

[beveaux1]

Not a first down. It's Dillon time.

[George Cumby]

Not a first down. It's Dillon time.

Please, God.

[RashanGary]

Love is all that really matters

[George Cumby]

WTG Kid.

[Fosco33]

Pack has more 1st downs, more ToP, more total/pass/rush yards and avg per play.

Should be 6-7 and need points here as I said above.

He hasn’t been terrible outside a little jittery. He’s settled in in looks like.

[pittstang5]

I can't fault Love so far. Chiefs are blitzing heavily. Special Teams - Everyone should be fired!!!

[George Cumby]

Love is all that really matters

Hahahahaha

[pittstang5]

O-line not helping either.

[George Cumby]

Smart.

[pittstang5]

Ugh. Shut out it is

[Bretsky]

bad pass on one that should have been easy. Gotta make the gimmer throws. Then you have 3rd and 4 instead of 3rd and 10. A Backup QB should make the gimme's.

And then the INT

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Threw it right at the corner.

[Harlan Huckleby]

not a good pass

[George Cumby]

Welp

[RashanGary]

Newman needs to be replaced.

When Jenkins slides inside, I think you have to move Runyan to RG. Newman has been bad consistently.

[Harlan Huckleby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyABcyYluyw

the lead singer kinda looks...

[texaspackerbacker]

nice arm punt

[Teamcheez1]

MLF deserves a lot of blame for the shit show tonight.

[Joemailman]

Not a good pass, but disappointed Adams didn't win that battle.

[Teamcheez1]

When is the last game we were shut out?

[red]

love looks like complete shit, he has zero accuracy over ten yards and barely has any for the short passes

our future looks really bad

[Bretsky]

Love is all that really matters



I'm confused reading all of this; I thought you'd be going through extensive means to apolgize for Love. Instead others are. Yes, our ST has been poor.

Love has been as well. For the love of the NFL this is not a good defense. Consistence on accuracy is something a NFL quarterback cannot sacrifice.

Maybe he still makes is. I was lit up in a thread for noting how media members really saw flashes from AROD in practice and they thought he would be fine. They noted they don't see that from the Luvmachine.

I wish I would see one of those flashes today.

[George Cumby]

love looks like complete shit, he has zero accuracy over ten yards and barely has any for the short passes

our future looks really bad

Please, never change. Always be YOU.

[beveaux1]

Mahomes is bad today.

[Bretsky]

love looks like complete shit, he has zero accuracy over ten yards and barely has any for the short passes

our future looks really bad



Welcome back to the Jungle Red !!!

[Fosco33]

Chiefs have 37 passing yards this half.

[King Friday]

Love is not making stupid throws into double coverage. While his accuracy hasn't been great, we also are all jaded in having watched back to back HOF QBs. Love has shown flashes. He's got potential. He won't be ready in 2022.

[George Cumby]

Love has better number than Mahomey, guys.

[Teamcheez1]

The defense has looked good tonight. MLF was not involved in that game planning.

[Bretsky]

Mahomes is bad today.



I pointed this out last week. The Chiefs are REALLY off.

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahaha What's wrong with Mahomes? Good D, but that's not all. He's playing like crap. A dud day for State Farm hahahaha.

[Bretsky]

Love has better number than Mahomey, guys.


Is this supposed to make us feel better ? Do you think Love looks good ? How many yards did Love get on that junk throw to Cobb that he somehow got ?

[George Cumby]

Mahomes has been off all year from what I've seen.

[Freak Out]

The defense has played really well. Special teams has sucked balls and Love has had a rough go of it. Play calling has been kinda shit though. KC has blitzed every fucking play and there are ways to make them pay.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Mother fuck! Wide open!

[Teamcheez1]

Chiefs are crap. We’re worse tonight.

[Joemailman]

No Rodgers State Farm commercials today.

[Bretsky]

Adams really open there

[Fosco33]

ARod week 1 in Saints loss.

15/28 for 133yrds and 2 picks.

Right now love is 16/28 for 150 and 1 pick.

[George Cumby]

Is this supposed to make us feel better ? Do you think Love looks good ? How many yards did Love get on that junk throw to Cobb that he somehow got ?

Well, he did complete nine in a row. That's not luck.

I never said he looks good.

He looks pretty much what one might expect.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The defense has played really well. Special teams has sucked balls and Love has had a rough go of it. Play calling has been kinda shit though. KC has blitzed every fucking play and there are ways to make them pay.

Bomb to mvs?

[Fosco33]

Bad throw there

[George Cumby]

ARod week 1 in Saints loss.

15/28 for 133yrds and 2 picks.

Right now love is 16/28 for 150 and 1 pick.

Yeah.

Let's be reasonable.

This could be so much worse.

[Bretsky]

Packers really need to get things moving.

Still possible to steal this game.

Another bad pass to Cobb there

[Harlan Huckleby]

they are still in the game

[Bretsky]

Yeah.

Let's be reasonable.

This could be so much worse.



How does the Saints Defense compare to the Chiefs ?

[Bretsky]

Bad choice

[Bretsky]

In general a QB should know to take what the defense is giving him.

Often Love is not reading what they are giving him. He still might be fine long term. I guess this is about what I expected

[Bretsky]

I'm staying negative; maybe my bad karma can will us a win :))

[Joemailman]

Gotta Love it!

[beveaux1]

TD Packers! No shut out.

[George Cumby]

Hahahahahahaha

[Harlan Huckleby]

the Love Era begins

[George Cumby]

I'm staying negative; maybe my bad karma can will us a win :))

Thank you for your sacrifice.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Wait, Jordan Love is part white?

[Harlan Huckleby]

incredible play lizard

[Bretsky]

At end of thread, it's only fitting, after we win or lose, to post one of the two songs.....All you need it Love...........or Love Stinks :)))

[George Cumby]

So do we do the on-side with this dumpster fire of a ST's unit?

[Joemailman]

Nice directional kick.

[RashanGary]

All you need is Love

[George Cumby]

Wait, Jordan Love is part white?

Shut the fuck up.

[beveaux1]

Or... Love Hurts.

[George Cumby]

Barnes is really filling well today.

[Teamcheez1]

Safeties need to be more aggressive at this point in the game.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Shut the fuck up.

Fox kept showing “mom” and “girlfriend” on the tube, hombre.

[Fosco33]

Looked like another missed hold

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Barnes is really filling well today.

Except in coverage.

[scharpcheddar]

So a fair-weather Bears fan. :)

That makes no sense!!!! :)

[King Friday]

Is this supposed to make us feel better ? Do you think Love looks good ? How many yards did Love get on that junk throw to Cobb that he somehow got ?

For a first start... In KC... when Rodgers was ruled out on Wed...

Yes, Love has looked reasonably good for a noob. To expect him to play like Rodgers, which some of you seem to expect, is illogical.

[George Cumby]

Fox kept showing “mom” and “girlfriend” on the tube, hombre.

Who gives a fuck what race anyone is? Hombre.

Moron.

[Teamcheez1]

I blame MLF for this loss. His game plan on offense was complete shit. Not to mention special teams.

Also, Rodgers. What kind of idiot doesn’t get the vaccine?

[Joemailman]

Well this is it Stop them or lose.

[beveaux1]

Love has looked better in the 2nd half. Not good, but better.

[Fosco33]

Home ref. That was an easy taunt.

Oh well. We played alright outside of 3rd down conversion, STs - again. Long fields.

7-2 ain’t bad.

Unless we get super lucky.

[King Friday]

I blame MLF for this loss. His game plan on offense was complete shit. Not to mention special teams.

Hey dumbass...the entire game plan had to change on Wed due to Halloween COVID party boy.

[Freak Out]

Without the special teams debacle this is tied or better.

[Fosco33]

28 penalty yards. Sure…

9 flags combined.

Refs let them play. Mostly got it right. But I’d say there was 2-3 calls that didn’t break our way. And 2-3 plays on ST/Offense for us with a locked kick, nicked foot, missed throws.

[Teamcheez1]

Hey dumbass...the entire game plan had to change on Wed due to Halloween COVID party boy.

Hey dumbass, want my fist through your face?

[George Cumby]

Without the special teams debacle this is tied or better.

13 points right there.

[George Cumby]

Things are chippy in here.

Mad must be happy.

[Teamcheez1]

Sullivan and Amos no excuse for losing coverage

[Harlan Huckleby]

hell of a play by mahomes

[beveaux1]

Game.

[George Cumby]

Welp.

[beveaux1]

Double covered and wide open by 10 yards.

[Bretsky]

For a first start... In KC... when Rodgers was ruled out on Wed...

Yes, Love has looked reasonably good for a noob. To expect him to play like Rodgers, which some of you seem to expect, is illogical.


Is a noob what the expectation was ?

[George Cumby]

No loss is good, but at least it's a non-conference opponent.

The Defense is so stout.

Love is NOT bad. There's stuff to be worked with there.

ST's OMFG.

[Bretsky]

Love has looked better in the 2nd half. Not good, but better.


I don't think KC blitzed as much with the 13 point lead

[Freak Out]

Uh yes. Did I hope for more....sure. We have watched a HOF QB throw six picks in a game before though so stuff happens on occasion.

[Bossman641]

If only we could pair last year's offense with this year's defense. Hopefully the return of Bakh will turn things around. Newman has been disappointing.

[beveaux1]

Is a noob what the expectation was ?

I would have liked more, but I didn't expect it. He got somewhat better as the 2nd half progressed.

They were 7 point favorites and we lost by 6. I expect his next start to be better.

Is he the answer for next year? Based on just this game...no. For him, he hopes the Packers allow his development.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Home ref. That was an easy taunt.

Oh well. We played alright outside of 3rd down conversion, STs - again. Long fields.

7-2 ain’t bad.

Unless we get super lucky.

Excuses are for losers - Vince Lombardi

[Fosco33]

Those fg’s… smh.

Was closer than it appeared due to the defense. Oh well

[texaspackerbacker]

This was about the best we could have hoped for. The D held 'em to 13 points. We would have won the game by a couple of TDs with Rodgers. We can afford a loss at this point.

Love was good enough that we should be able to get something for him in trade, and he was bad enough that it should solidify keeping Rodgers long long term.

Hopefully his "next start" is for some other team - or 5-10 years from now for the Packers hahahaha.

[Joemailman]

More Banjo Thread posted.

[RashanGary]

This was about the best we could have hoped for. The D held 'em to 13 points. We would have won the game by a couple of TDs with Rodgers. We can afford a loss at this point.

Love was good enough that we should be able to get something for him in trade, and he was bad enough that it should solidify keeping Rodgers long long term.

Hopefully his "next start" is for some other team - or 5-10 years from now for the Packers hahahaha.

I don’t know, I think it’s still a holding pattern on which way to go. Love was just good enough that maybe you move on. I’d like to see Love in one more game.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don’t know, I think it’s still a holding pattern on which way to go. Love was just good enough that maybe you move on. I’d like to see Love in one more game.

Yeah, move on ...... if you like long term losing - coming close to a stumbling team only because our D was fired up. I say again, Rodgers woulda won it by a couple TDs or more.

[RashanGary]

Yeah, move on ...... if you like long term losing - coming close to a stumbling team only because our D was fired up. I say again, Rodgers woulda won it by a couple TDs or more.

Rodgers would have won that game. But this is Loves low point. He only gets better. It was his first game, at arrowhead with 4 days prep time. I’d like to see him one more time.

[scharpcheddar]

Their Lucky minn lost lol

[texaspackerbacker]

RG, you want to see him start at Seattle - and we lose that game too? We simply aren't gonna beat anybody decent without Rodgers. That includes Seattle with Wilson and probably Seattle without Wilson.

Now if you want to see him start the last game against Detroit after we've clinched the top seed, I'm with you on that hahahahaha.

[King Friday]

Love will continue to learn and grow. If he does have to be the full time starter next year, he will be closer to what he needs to be than he is now. Rodgers was not ready to be a starter two years into his career either.

To me, Love gets an average grade today. At times, he looked flustered and unsure. At times, he looked focused and composed. He made a few inaccurate throws. He tossed a couple dimes. It was a mixed bag.

I think the biggest takeaway is that he kept plugging, didn't let the INT get to him, and came back to lead a TD drive on a great throw. He seemed to slowly improve as the game went on, which is a good sign to me.

Picking him was a mistake. We didn't need a project QB when we were knocking on the door of a Super Bowl. However, there is potential in Love if Rodgers decides to move on after this year.

[Bretsky]

Rodgers would have won that game. But this is Loves low point. He only gets better. It was his first game, at arrowhead with 4 days prep time. I’d like to see him one more time.



Would that be with GB, or somewhere else in about 3 years :))) ?

[RashanGary]

Would that be with GB, or somewhere else in about 3 years :))) ?

I’d like to see him against Seattle. Then make more judgements.

[Sparkey]

I’d like to see him against Seattle. Then make more judgements.

He will get all the reps this week in practice.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm confused reading all of this; I thought you'd be going through extensive means to apolgize for Love. Instead others are. Yes, our ST has been poor.

Love has been as well. For the love of the NFL this is not a good defense. Consistence on accuracy is something a NFL quarterback cannot sacrifice.

Maybe he still makes is. I was lit up in a thread for noting how media members really saw flashes from AROD in practice and they thought he would be fine. They noted they don't see that from the Luvmachine.

I wish I would see one of those flashes today.

Andrew Brandt - who may be full of it, he’s definitely an opportunist - has stated on numerous occasions that they thought they had something special very early, thst he was uniquely accurate.

[call_me_ishmael]

Love is not making stupid throws into double coverage. While his accuracy hasn't been great, we also are all jaded in having watched back to back HOF QBs. Love has shown flashes. He's got potential. He won't be ready in 2022.

If he’s not ready in 2022 when will he be ready? I didn’t watch the game but he should be more prepared than Rodgers was for Dallas and that Dallas team was much better than the 2021 Chiefs. MUCH better!

[The Shadow]

Jordan Love is clearly missing the QB awareness gene.
A ballsy team would realize a mistake & move on looking in a different direction.
This experiment should be over.

[King Friday]

If he’s not ready in 2022 when will he be ready? I didn’t watch the game but he should be more prepared than Rodgers was for Dallas and that Dallas team was much better than the 2021 Chiefs. MUCH better!

Rodgers sat for 3 years behind Favre. Rodgers looked every bit an inexperienced QB for 2 full years. He started to show he was ready in year 3, and was the starter in year 4. The Dallas game occurred in Rodgers' third year in the league.

I would expect a similar path for Love, although you have to compensate to some extent for what COVID did to Love's development in his first year. Love did not get a full year of camp and training like Rodgers did in his first year. That absolutely hurt his development.

I think you give Love another off-season of training, and some more live bullet action next year, he would be ready to go in 2023 as a good starting QB.

Love's performance today was better than anything Rodgers did in his first 2 seasons in the NFL.

[King Friday]

Jordan Love is clearly missing the QB awareness gene.
A ballsy team would realize a mistake & move on looking in a different direction.
This experiment should be over.

You are an idiot. Rodgers was just as pathetic in his first two years, and you were probably someone yelling to keep Favre until he was 50 and quit the Rodgers experiment.

[call_me_ishmael]

Rodgers sat for 3 years behind Favre. Rodgers looked every bit an inexperienced QB for 2 full years. He started to show he was ready in year 3, and was the starter in year 4. The Dallas game occurred in Rodgers' third year in the league.

I would expect a similar path for Love, although you have to compensate to some extent for what COVID did to Love's development in his first year. Love did not get a full year of camp and training like Rodgers did in his first year. That absolutely hurt his development.

I think you give Love another off-season of training, and some more live bullet action next year, he would be ready to go in 2023 as a good starting QB.

Love's performance today was better than anything Rodgers did in his first 2 seasons in the NFL.

In year 3 in his first action he nearly led a 21 point comeback against the I believe 8-1 cowboys. Didn’t he break his foot year two?

[King Friday]

In year 3 in his first action he nearly led a 21 point comeback against the I believe 8-1 cowboys. Didn’t he break his foot year two?

Rodgers had 31 pass attempts in his first 2 years of regular season action.

He completed less than half of those passes.

He did not throw a TD.

Relax on all the hysteria that Love is incapable and a complete waste. I strongly disagreed with drafting him, but he's a Packer now and more likely than not the guy who will get the first shot after Rodgers. At least be fair when evaluating him. Comparing him to a third year Rodgers is not fair.

[smuggler]

He looked flustered, but he led two drives at the end of the game that gave us a shot. I'm not ready to write him off. He's gonna need more pepper though. I'll be happy to get Rodgers back next week.

[Bretsky]

I’d like to see him against Seattle. Then make more judgements.



This logic borders insanity to me; no frickin way I want him starting again this year. We had a golden opportunity against KC today

[Bretsky]

You are an idiot. Rodgers was just as pathetic in his first two years, and you were probably someone yelling to keep Favre until he was 50 and quit the Rodgers experiment.



Rodgers pedigree/arm strength. Not really comparable IMO. I agree with you that we can't call the project quits. But I'm not going to lead the apology team either

[Freak Out]

Holy shit people take a deep breath. It's not time to throw Love on the fire just yet. Of course we want Arod as long as he is healthy and willing but you don't give up on a player after one performance...especially considering the circumstances. Packer fans are spoiled babies.

[call_me_ishmael]

Rodgers sat for 3 years behind Favre. Rodgers looked every bit an inexperienced QB for 2 full years. He started to show he was ready in year 3, and was the starter in year 4. The Dallas game occurred in Rodgers' third year in the league.

I would expect a similar path for Love, although you have to compensate to some extent for what COVID did to Love's development in his first year. Love did not get a full year of camp and training like Rodgers did in his first year. That absolutely hurt his development.

I think you give Love another off-season of training, and some more live bullet action next year, he would be ready to go in 2023 as a good starting QB.

Love's performance today was better than anything Rodgers did in his first 2 seasons in the NFL.

I guess what I am saying is it's not really comparable what happened 20 years ago. It was a unique situation having a guy sit that long then, and it still is now. Love had all week to get himself ready and be prepared, where as Rodgers didn't have that luxury when he went in and played.

I think more time will for sure help and give him a better chance of being a player, but I think two years is pretty much the same thing as three. If he's not ready by the end of this year, will he ever be ready? I am not so sure. I recall Phillip Rivers saying it was BS sitting behind Brees for a year or two and he was ready to rock and roll from Day 1.

It seems like most players that can play in today's world can do it relatively early. See Brady 2.0 in NE, that boy in San Diego, and a few others. I just kind of think we'd here more about the "wow factor" in practice if he had it.

[texaspackerbacker]

Rodgers would have won that game. But this is Loves low point. He only gets better. It was his first game, at arrowhead with 4 days prep time. I’d like to see him one more time.

I'm not so sure this is true. He was playing today against a badly depleted D, and he also got lucky on several ill-advised throw that coulda/shoulda been picks.

Even if you throw out the idea that his arm/throwing accuracy is questionable, you still have the idea that he doesn't have nearly the good sense and discipline he should have learned from watching the GOAT for nearly a season and a half. I think the mediocrity we saw today could easily get worse if/when he plays more games against teams with better pass D.

[smuggler]

He can sit for another year. He might yet improve. I'd say it's still about 50/50 whether he becomes a worthwhile starter. Not really worth worrying about at this point (from a fan perspective). Rodgers is the guy.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't want to hear that "another year" talk hahahaha. Try another 3-5 years, maybe 7-10 years of Rodgers. If Love plays in "another year", it better be for another team.

[smuggler]

It takes two to tango. Rodgers will have to want to return. If he doesn't, we're on the Love Boat in 2022 and not seeing him again before then is just fine by me.

[texaspackerbacker]

Seems like we've covered this ground hahahaha. Based on what he has said, it sure seems like he does want to.

If it's the Love Boat in '22, the Packers will be sailing right down the drain.

[SudsMcBucky]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'd be absolutely shocked if AR plays beyond the remainder of this year in GB. It is my impression he's moving on from this team and Packer fans better be ready for a new reality that the Bears have been living in since 1985.

[King Friday]

I'm not so sure this is true. He was playing today against a badly depleted D, and he also got lucky on several ill-advised throw that coulda/shoulda been picks.

Even if you throw out the idea that his arm/throwing accuracy is questionable, you still have the idea that he doesn't have nearly the good sense and discipline he should have learned from watching the GOAT for nearly a season and a half. I think the mediocrity we saw today could easily get worse if/when he plays more games against teams with better pass D.

If anyone can point to a considerable body of play in Rodgers first two years in the league that were any better than what Love showed yesterday, please do so.

I'll save you the time. There isn't any. Rodgers sucked massive donkey balls in his first two years. He looked like horse shit. Fans back then were reacting the EXACT SAME WAY as many of you are now, claiming that Thompson was a delusional idiot for wasting that draft pick and that we shouldn't waste time on developing him. He was one of those "Tedford" QBs who never panned out in the NFL.

I'm not saying Love will ever be comparable to Rodgers, but this revisionist history that Rodgers was some wunderkind when he rolled into GB is flat out wrong. Rodgers struggled mightily in his first two years, and he didn't have to worry about trying to learn the professional game in the middle of a fucking pandemic that has turned the whole world on its ear. Love did not look ready yesterday. Neither did Rodgers for quite awhile. We need to see far more of Love before we write him off...although I'm certainly in agreement we don't need to see any more of him this year unless we are up by 28 in the 4th quarter.

[George Cumby]

^ This.

[Joemailman]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I'd be absolutely shocked if AR plays beyond the remainder of this year in GB. It is my impression he's moving on from this team and Packer fans better be ready for a new reality that the Bears have been living in since 1985.

The odds are against Love being the Packers 3rd consecutive Packers HOF QB. But the odds are also against the Packers approaching the Bears level of futility at finding a quality QB. There is an ocean or two between those 2 extremes.

[Bretsky]

The odds are against Love being the Packers 3rd consecutive Packers HOF QB. But the odds are also against the Packers approaching the Bears level of futility at finding a quality QB. There is an ocean or two between those 2 extremes.


I've maintained it was a stupid draft pick by Gutebag due to the "timing" and the trade up, or a combo of the 2
I still think Jordan love can be a marginal starting QB in the NFL. Nothing from the other day sways me one way or the other.

I'll add this though. Today many QB's are way more NFL ready than QB's were 20 years ago. Unlike those QB's, the Love Machine is a developmental in progress that is far from ready

[NewsBruin]

If anyone can point to a considerable body of play in Rodgers first two years in the league that were any better than what Love showed yesterday, please do so.

I'll save you the time. There isn't any. Rodgers sucked massive donkey balls in his first two years. He looked like horse shit. Fans back then were reacting the EXACT SAME WAY as many of you are now, claiming that Thompson was a delusional idiot for wasting that draft pick and that we shouldn't waste time on developing him. He was one of those "Tedford" QBs who never panned out in the NFL.

I'm not saying Love will ever be comparable to Rodgers, but this revisionist history that Rodgers was some wunderkind when he rolled into GB is flat out wrong. Rodgers struggled mightily in his first two years, and he didn't have to worry about trying to learn the professional game in the middle of a fucking pandemic that has turned the whole world on its ear. Love did not look ready yesterday. Neither did Rodgers for quite awhile. We need to see far more of Love before we write him off...although I'm certainly in agreement we don't need to see any more of him this year unless we are up by 28 in the 4th quarter.

I think it also depends on what kind of tutelage Love is getting. I read that M3 had rookie Rodgers give the cornerbacks report in the QB meeting and chart every offensive play called and chart what he would/should have done if he were on the field during the games. Maybe that's what everyone does with their young backups, but it sounds like McCarthy knew he had to give some responsibility to the 1st rounder playing behind the checked-out future HoF'er.

I don't know what MaLF has for Love, but I hope it's not just "watch a lot of tape and keep up on the playbook."

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He played better than AR week 1. Lol

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Ruthless Fosco, but true. But considering this context...

The opposition played their best game in week 1. The opposition this week is currently wondering if they can scratch their way to a wildcard.

... Does it matter?