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09-14-2006, 04:59 PM
THURSDAY, Sept. 14, 2006, 2:41 p.m.
The Cesspool Packers
If the Packers are going to bring someone to town who has shown that he has no regard for human life by driving drunk at more than 100 miles per hour, the least they could do is change their name and disassociate themselves from the many good people in Green Bay who are appalled and outraged by the move. Maybe they could change their name to the Minnesota Vikings East or the Cesspool Packers.
THURSDAY, Sept. 14, 2006, 12:35 p.m.
The Gado trade
The trade of running back Samkon Gado illustrates why changing coaches can set teams back before they can move forward. That's not to say that Mike Sherman shouldn't have been replaced. And Gado may go down as nothing more than one of the biggest flashes in the pan in Packers' history.
But this summer he looked like a square peg in a round hole trying to adapt to the Packers' new blocking scheme. So he no longer was a good fit. Maybe Vernand Morency will be a better back. But even then, it will take time for him to learn the system. And if he doesn't pan out, it's just one more place where the Packers will have to fill a new hole.
Had the old coaching staff and old system been in place, the Packers might have been set at backup running back for two, three years.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 3:45 p.m.
Why not Willie Ponder?
No doubt, the Packers needed to do something about their kickoff return game. It was pathetic Sunday. Not only were the numbers pathetic -- an 18.4-yard average per return -- but so was the effort.
Noah Herron's blocking looked to be half-hearted at best, especially on the kickoff to start the second half. In the fourth quarter, he should have been called for a holding penalty after another feeble effort to throw a block.
Anyway, there was absolutely no excuse for the Packers to enter a season opener with such an anemic return game. On Sept. 2, the final cutdown day, the New York Giants released Ponder, a fourth-year veteran who had averaged 26.4 yards on 71 kickoff returns during the 2004 and '05 seasons.
During the waiver process that weekend, general manager Ted Thompson put in eight claims, but none for Ponder, despite the Packers' desperate need for a return man. Three days later, the defending NFL champion Seattle Seahawks signed Ponder as a free agent even though they had a reliable return man in Josh Scobey.
In Sunday's season opener against Detroit, Ponder averaged 29.3 yards on three kickoff returns, including one of 41 yards.
It appears that if Thompson wasn't sleeping at the switch, he could have added Ponder in time to give the Packers a better chance of beating the Bears and also avoided the entire Koren Robinson fiasco.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:56 p.m.
A setback for Blackmon
Rookie cornerback and potential kick returner Will Blackmon aggravated his foot injury. Nevertheless, he's still listed as questionable, not out of Sunday's game.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:55 p.m.
The guard situation
The Packers have listed starting left guard Jason Spitz as questionable with a thigh injury. Fellow rookie Daryn Colledge worked in Spitz's place in Wednesday's practice and probably will start there Sunday if Spitz isn't able to practice by Friday.
Colledge lost the left guard job in training camp when his play didn't measure up.
"I think I'm a different player than I was back then," he said today.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:52 p.m.
The Bush factor
The Saints played Reggie Bush some in the same backfield with Deuce McAllister last week. But Coach Mike McCarthy seemed to say at his Wednesday press conference that even if Bush and McAllister are in the game together in a base offense, the Packers will be able to avoid matching up outside linebacker Brady Poppinga on Bush or at least that they'd be able to give Poppinga help.
Bush could line up not only as a running back, but also as a wide reciver and slotback.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 12:27 p.m.
'Letterman's' Look at the Robinson Signing
Here’s my David Letterman’s list of questions raised by the Packers’ decision to sign Koren Robinson.
10. If Ted Thompson gets this desperate after just one loss what’s next after say five or 10?
9. What if former pitcher Steve Howe was alive? Would the Packers be willing to sign him as their bullpen snapper, a position they formerly filled during training camp?
8. Seeing Ted Thompson probably couldn’t ask for a better boss than Bob Harlan, why is he willing to risk bringing Harlan’s tenure as president full cycle from the shadows of Mossy Cade to the shadows of Robinson?
7. What about Maurice Clarett? The Packers signed Robinson to replace Noah Herron as a kickoff returner. Now, they could sign Clarett to replace Herron as a running back.
6. If the Packers are going to start accepting the Vikings’ sick and troubled why not trade for the entire Love Boat cast?
5. Who stands to benefit the most from this signing? The bartenders of Green Bay, the lawyers of Green Bay or the Packers?
4. Will the Packers be hiring a 24-hour babysitter for Robinson so the streets are safe at night?
3. Is Robinson what Thompson and Mike McCarthy had in mind all along when they talked about “Packer People?†How do you spell the word hypocrite?
2. What’s worse: Having the Packers bring people into your neighborhood or having the state parole board planting them there?
1. Have the Packers ever before expectorated this much spit into the faces of the people of Green Bay?
TUESDAY, Sept. 12, 2006, 5:21 p.m.
A perspective on Green Bay
A friend who grew up in Green Bay and has lived in Milwaukee for many years sent the following email. And he couldn't be more on the money. I think the perception from the outside is that everybody in Green Bay is a gaga over the Packers. Having lived in the area for most of my 59 years, nothing could be further from the truth. The Packers are a constant topic of conversation in the city. But I can't tell you how many people I know who aren't fans and resent a lot of what the Packers stand for. That's why the Lambeau referendum was such a close vote. That partly explains why so many season-ticket holders live outside the Green Bay metropolitan area. That's also why I suspect the outrage over the Robinson signing will be much greater in Green Bay than anywhere else. And that's why I suspect that if this is a signing that goes bad, a lot of people in Green Bay will be unforgiving toward the Packers and make it all the more difficult if they ever have to go back to the community again for tax money.
Anyway here's what this transplanted Green Bay area native wrote:
"Most of my Milwaukee friends think the Robinson signing ... "is no big deal". I pointed out that their memories are short, or they're just too young to remember the embarrassment of the Lofton, Cade and Timmy Harris incidents. And I may be way off on this. But I've always contended that Green Bay area fans view the franchise with a different eye than other parts of Wisconsin ... especially Southeastern Wisconsin. Being 4-12 is one thing, but embarrassing, or criminal behavior is another. And I believe that many Packer fans in Green Bay, right or wrong, viewed that behavior as a reflection on their hometown.
"I agreed with today's column 100%."
TUESDAY, Sept. 12, 2006, 3:07 p.m.
A response to readers
My e-mail box was flooded today following my column on the Packers' signing of Koren Robinson. Here was the response I sent to readers.
As a writer for JS Online, I make a habit of answering all my e-mail. I feel I owe it to you for whatever effort you make or whatever cost you incur to read what I write. I’m honored that you’re interested. However, following my latest column, the amount of e-mail in my basket prevents me from answering each one individually. So for the most part, each of you is receiving the same response.
To those of you who read the column, whether you agreed with it or took issue with it, signed your name and offered praise or criticism in a sincere and professional manner, I appreciate it and respect your viewpoint. The same goes for people who simply fired off an email in a similar tone, even if it just included an address. It’s nice to know that most people who take opposite views can be civil about it and have the backbone to put their name behind it.
My guess is that some will wonder: Why is Robinson any different than any other troubled athlete that the Packers or other teams have signed? First of all, let me just say that I abhor the idea of playing park ranger. The moral police in this country, including those in the media, drive me nuts.
But Robinson’s transgressions go beyond what general manager Ted Thompson described as mistakes. This is someone who more than once, perhaps repeatedly, has put the lives of others in danger.
In an October 2004 article in the Tacoma News Tribune, Mike Sando reported on Robinson’s past troubles:
“A search of public records revealed 21 cases implicating Robinson for various misdeeds, including four allegations of negligent driving since 2003. The records show repeated failures to appear in court, cases going to collection and lawyers taking care of matters at the last minute.
“A negligent-driving conviction from April 2003 stemmed from a more serious charge of reckless driving, records show. There were 13 other traffic-related cases, including one from April of this year in which an officer cited Robinson for traveling 105 mph in a 60 zone. The most recent case was dated Aug. 12 (2004), four days before Seattle played an exhibition game at Green Bay. That case involved allegations of reckless and negligent driving. Six other incidents originated from Robinson's home state of North Carolina, including four in 1998.â€Â
In his most recent incident this summer, Robinson didn’t just drive drunk. He allegedly was drunk and fleeing police at more than 100 miles per hour. Based on the News Tribune, this was at least the second time that Robinson allegedly had been caught speeding in excess of 100 mph.
How many times can somebody get away with driving that fast, especially with alcohol in their system, before they kill someone? And if that were to happen while Robinson was a member of the Green Bay Packers, it would be a tragedy mostly for the lives lost, but also for the devastation it would bring to one of the most storied franchises in sports.
And that was my main point.
What organization would be so stupid as to take this risk over a player who has been a disappointment for most of his career and so gullible as to think that based on the record there isn’t a high probability that it will happen again? Former Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson signed and kept his share of troubled players. His comments in colleague Tom Silverstein’s extremely well written and well reported news account of the Robinson signing are worth digesting.
Thanks for your interest
Cliff Christl
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 4:14 p.m.
Injury update
Guard Jason Spitz suffered a thigh bruise against Chicago and is expected to be listed on this week's injury report. The Packers don't have to classify the severity of the injury until Wednesday.
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 1:45 p.m.
Why playmakers matter
Had Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales or one of the other few playmakers at tight end caught the second quarter pass down the middle from Brett Favre Sunday, it might have resulted in a 78-yard touchdown pass and turned the momentum of the game.
But Donald Lee stumbled and fell down at the Packers' 40-yard line as he caught the ball and wound up gaining only 25 yards. It was the longest play of the game for the Packers, other than Charles Woodson's 28-yard punt return, but it could have been so much bigger. At the time, the Bears were leading, 10-0.
The Packers were in a double tight end formation with a fullback and only one wide receiver. When outside linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer and safety Mike Brown bit on Favre's play fake, the Bears had nine defenders in the box.
The line of scrimmage was the 22. When Lee caught the ball 18 yards downfield there wasn't a defender between him and the goal line. Safety Chris Harris might have had an angle and caught Lee from behind, but the trailing defender was seven yards behind the play at the time of the catch.
After the game, Favre shouldered much of the blame for the play not producing even bigger yardage. He said he should have thrown a little bit more in front of Lee. Even coach Mike McCarthy said he thought from field level on Sunday that the pass was slightly underthrown. And it was. But the key word there is slightly.
A second look at the play on television and the Packers' own tape showed that Lee should have been able to catch the ball without breaking stride and without falling down.
"I think Donald needs to run through that ball," said McCarthy. "I think he has a chance to score. It was a big-play opportunity."
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 11:49 a.m.
The sneak
I stand by my conviction that as laymen, both fans and media are unqualified to second-guess play-calling. But Mike McCarthy's decision to call for a quarterback sneak at a crucial point in Sunday's game certainly was a curious call for two reasons. One, Brett Favre said it had been so long that he couldn't remember the last time he ran a sneak. Two, I don't believe the Packers practiced the play all summer. At least, I never saw them work on a sneak and I was at every practice.
Had the Packers converted the fourth down play, they would have had a first down inside the Bears' 45-yard line, trailing 10-0. Instead, the Bears turned the failed sneak into another field goal and a 13-0 lead.
While it may have been a curious call, like any play, if it had been properly executed, it would have succeeded. Left guard Jason Spitz and center Scott Wells doubled defensive tackle Tommie Harris and submarined him out of the play. But defensive tackle Ian Scott crashed inside right guard Tony Moll and took out Favre's legs.
"There is probably an art to a quarterback sneak," said Favre, "and it has been so long since I did it, I probably lost the art."
From up top, it appeared that Favre didn't get much push. But it was the penetration inside Moll that derailed the play. Coach Mike McCarthy said at his Monday press conference that Moll's split was too wide and he played it too high.
McCarthy also defended the call. He said the sneak fit into their offense scheme and isn't a play that necessarily needs to be practiced.
"Well, quarterback sneaks, I would think with our quarterback, it's not something we need to practice a whole lot for his number of reps or his career," said McCarthy. "But it something you don't want to expose your offense or defense in a practice environment to injury. So it's all based on footwork. It's a wedge play, so it's another form of combination block. So I disagree with the fact we don't practice that. We're a one team, so combination blocks are things we do every single day."
The Cesspool Packers
If the Packers are going to bring someone to town who has shown that he has no regard for human life by driving drunk at more than 100 miles per hour, the least they could do is change their name and disassociate themselves from the many good people in Green Bay who are appalled and outraged by the move. Maybe they could change their name to the Minnesota Vikings East or the Cesspool Packers.
THURSDAY, Sept. 14, 2006, 12:35 p.m.
The Gado trade
The trade of running back Samkon Gado illustrates why changing coaches can set teams back before they can move forward. That's not to say that Mike Sherman shouldn't have been replaced. And Gado may go down as nothing more than one of the biggest flashes in the pan in Packers' history.
But this summer he looked like a square peg in a round hole trying to adapt to the Packers' new blocking scheme. So he no longer was a good fit. Maybe Vernand Morency will be a better back. But even then, it will take time for him to learn the system. And if he doesn't pan out, it's just one more place where the Packers will have to fill a new hole.
Had the old coaching staff and old system been in place, the Packers might have been set at backup running back for two, three years.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 3:45 p.m.
Why not Willie Ponder?
No doubt, the Packers needed to do something about their kickoff return game. It was pathetic Sunday. Not only were the numbers pathetic -- an 18.4-yard average per return -- but so was the effort.
Noah Herron's blocking looked to be half-hearted at best, especially on the kickoff to start the second half. In the fourth quarter, he should have been called for a holding penalty after another feeble effort to throw a block.
Anyway, there was absolutely no excuse for the Packers to enter a season opener with such an anemic return game. On Sept. 2, the final cutdown day, the New York Giants released Ponder, a fourth-year veteran who had averaged 26.4 yards on 71 kickoff returns during the 2004 and '05 seasons.
During the waiver process that weekend, general manager Ted Thompson put in eight claims, but none for Ponder, despite the Packers' desperate need for a return man. Three days later, the defending NFL champion Seattle Seahawks signed Ponder as a free agent even though they had a reliable return man in Josh Scobey.
In Sunday's season opener against Detroit, Ponder averaged 29.3 yards on three kickoff returns, including one of 41 yards.
It appears that if Thompson wasn't sleeping at the switch, he could have added Ponder in time to give the Packers a better chance of beating the Bears and also avoided the entire Koren Robinson fiasco.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:56 p.m.
A setback for Blackmon
Rookie cornerback and potential kick returner Will Blackmon aggravated his foot injury. Nevertheless, he's still listed as questionable, not out of Sunday's game.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:55 p.m.
The guard situation
The Packers have listed starting left guard Jason Spitz as questionable with a thigh injury. Fellow rookie Daryn Colledge worked in Spitz's place in Wednesday's practice and probably will start there Sunday if Spitz isn't able to practice by Friday.
Colledge lost the left guard job in training camp when his play didn't measure up.
"I think I'm a different player than I was back then," he said today.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 2:52 p.m.
The Bush factor
The Saints played Reggie Bush some in the same backfield with Deuce McAllister last week. But Coach Mike McCarthy seemed to say at his Wednesday press conference that even if Bush and McAllister are in the game together in a base offense, the Packers will be able to avoid matching up outside linebacker Brady Poppinga on Bush or at least that they'd be able to give Poppinga help.
Bush could line up not only as a running back, but also as a wide reciver and slotback.
WEDNESDAY, Sept. 13, 2006, 12:27 p.m.
'Letterman's' Look at the Robinson Signing
Here’s my David Letterman’s list of questions raised by the Packers’ decision to sign Koren Robinson.
10. If Ted Thompson gets this desperate after just one loss what’s next after say five or 10?
9. What if former pitcher Steve Howe was alive? Would the Packers be willing to sign him as their bullpen snapper, a position they formerly filled during training camp?
8. Seeing Ted Thompson probably couldn’t ask for a better boss than Bob Harlan, why is he willing to risk bringing Harlan’s tenure as president full cycle from the shadows of Mossy Cade to the shadows of Robinson?
7. What about Maurice Clarett? The Packers signed Robinson to replace Noah Herron as a kickoff returner. Now, they could sign Clarett to replace Herron as a running back.
6. If the Packers are going to start accepting the Vikings’ sick and troubled why not trade for the entire Love Boat cast?
5. Who stands to benefit the most from this signing? The bartenders of Green Bay, the lawyers of Green Bay or the Packers?
4. Will the Packers be hiring a 24-hour babysitter for Robinson so the streets are safe at night?
3. Is Robinson what Thompson and Mike McCarthy had in mind all along when they talked about “Packer People?†How do you spell the word hypocrite?
2. What’s worse: Having the Packers bring people into your neighborhood or having the state parole board planting them there?
1. Have the Packers ever before expectorated this much spit into the faces of the people of Green Bay?
TUESDAY, Sept. 12, 2006, 5:21 p.m.
A perspective on Green Bay
A friend who grew up in Green Bay and has lived in Milwaukee for many years sent the following email. And he couldn't be more on the money. I think the perception from the outside is that everybody in Green Bay is a gaga over the Packers. Having lived in the area for most of my 59 years, nothing could be further from the truth. The Packers are a constant topic of conversation in the city. But I can't tell you how many people I know who aren't fans and resent a lot of what the Packers stand for. That's why the Lambeau referendum was such a close vote. That partly explains why so many season-ticket holders live outside the Green Bay metropolitan area. That's also why I suspect the outrage over the Robinson signing will be much greater in Green Bay than anywhere else. And that's why I suspect that if this is a signing that goes bad, a lot of people in Green Bay will be unforgiving toward the Packers and make it all the more difficult if they ever have to go back to the community again for tax money.
Anyway here's what this transplanted Green Bay area native wrote:
"Most of my Milwaukee friends think the Robinson signing ... "is no big deal". I pointed out that their memories are short, or they're just too young to remember the embarrassment of the Lofton, Cade and Timmy Harris incidents. And I may be way off on this. But I've always contended that Green Bay area fans view the franchise with a different eye than other parts of Wisconsin ... especially Southeastern Wisconsin. Being 4-12 is one thing, but embarrassing, or criminal behavior is another. And I believe that many Packer fans in Green Bay, right or wrong, viewed that behavior as a reflection on their hometown.
"I agreed with today's column 100%."
TUESDAY, Sept. 12, 2006, 3:07 p.m.
A response to readers
My e-mail box was flooded today following my column on the Packers' signing of Koren Robinson. Here was the response I sent to readers.
As a writer for JS Online, I make a habit of answering all my e-mail. I feel I owe it to you for whatever effort you make or whatever cost you incur to read what I write. I’m honored that you’re interested. However, following my latest column, the amount of e-mail in my basket prevents me from answering each one individually. So for the most part, each of you is receiving the same response.
To those of you who read the column, whether you agreed with it or took issue with it, signed your name and offered praise or criticism in a sincere and professional manner, I appreciate it and respect your viewpoint. The same goes for people who simply fired off an email in a similar tone, even if it just included an address. It’s nice to know that most people who take opposite views can be civil about it and have the backbone to put their name behind it.
My guess is that some will wonder: Why is Robinson any different than any other troubled athlete that the Packers or other teams have signed? First of all, let me just say that I abhor the idea of playing park ranger. The moral police in this country, including those in the media, drive me nuts.
But Robinson’s transgressions go beyond what general manager Ted Thompson described as mistakes. This is someone who more than once, perhaps repeatedly, has put the lives of others in danger.
In an October 2004 article in the Tacoma News Tribune, Mike Sando reported on Robinson’s past troubles:
“A search of public records revealed 21 cases implicating Robinson for various misdeeds, including four allegations of negligent driving since 2003. The records show repeated failures to appear in court, cases going to collection and lawyers taking care of matters at the last minute.
“A negligent-driving conviction from April 2003 stemmed from a more serious charge of reckless driving, records show. There were 13 other traffic-related cases, including one from April of this year in which an officer cited Robinson for traveling 105 mph in a 60 zone. The most recent case was dated Aug. 12 (2004), four days before Seattle played an exhibition game at Green Bay. That case involved allegations of reckless and negligent driving. Six other incidents originated from Robinson's home state of North Carolina, including four in 1998.â€Â
In his most recent incident this summer, Robinson didn’t just drive drunk. He allegedly was drunk and fleeing police at more than 100 miles per hour. Based on the News Tribune, this was at least the second time that Robinson allegedly had been caught speeding in excess of 100 mph.
How many times can somebody get away with driving that fast, especially with alcohol in their system, before they kill someone? And if that were to happen while Robinson was a member of the Green Bay Packers, it would be a tragedy mostly for the lives lost, but also for the devastation it would bring to one of the most storied franchises in sports.
And that was my main point.
What organization would be so stupid as to take this risk over a player who has been a disappointment for most of his career and so gullible as to think that based on the record there isn’t a high probability that it will happen again? Former Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson signed and kept his share of troubled players. His comments in colleague Tom Silverstein’s extremely well written and well reported news account of the Robinson signing are worth digesting.
Thanks for your interest
Cliff Christl
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 4:14 p.m.
Injury update
Guard Jason Spitz suffered a thigh bruise against Chicago and is expected to be listed on this week's injury report. The Packers don't have to classify the severity of the injury until Wednesday.
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 1:45 p.m.
Why playmakers matter
Had Antonio Gates or Tony Gonzales or one of the other few playmakers at tight end caught the second quarter pass down the middle from Brett Favre Sunday, it might have resulted in a 78-yard touchdown pass and turned the momentum of the game.
But Donald Lee stumbled and fell down at the Packers' 40-yard line as he caught the ball and wound up gaining only 25 yards. It was the longest play of the game for the Packers, other than Charles Woodson's 28-yard punt return, but it could have been so much bigger. At the time, the Bears were leading, 10-0.
The Packers were in a double tight end formation with a fullback and only one wide receiver. When outside linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer and safety Mike Brown bit on Favre's play fake, the Bears had nine defenders in the box.
The line of scrimmage was the 22. When Lee caught the ball 18 yards downfield there wasn't a defender between him and the goal line. Safety Chris Harris might have had an angle and caught Lee from behind, but the trailing defender was seven yards behind the play at the time of the catch.
After the game, Favre shouldered much of the blame for the play not producing even bigger yardage. He said he should have thrown a little bit more in front of Lee. Even coach Mike McCarthy said he thought from field level on Sunday that the pass was slightly underthrown. And it was. But the key word there is slightly.
A second look at the play on television and the Packers' own tape showed that Lee should have been able to catch the ball without breaking stride and without falling down.
"I think Donald needs to run through that ball," said McCarthy. "I think he has a chance to score. It was a big-play opportunity."
MONDAY, Sept. 11, 2006, 11:49 a.m.
The sneak
I stand by my conviction that as laymen, both fans and media are unqualified to second-guess play-calling. But Mike McCarthy's decision to call for a quarterback sneak at a crucial point in Sunday's game certainly was a curious call for two reasons. One, Brett Favre said it had been so long that he couldn't remember the last time he ran a sneak. Two, I don't believe the Packers practiced the play all summer. At least, I never saw them work on a sneak and I was at every practice.
Had the Packers converted the fourth down play, they would have had a first down inside the Bears' 45-yard line, trailing 10-0. Instead, the Bears turned the failed sneak into another field goal and a 13-0 lead.
While it may have been a curious call, like any play, if it had been properly executed, it would have succeeded. Left guard Jason Spitz and center Scott Wells doubled defensive tackle Tommie Harris and submarined him out of the play. But defensive tackle Ian Scott crashed inside right guard Tony Moll and took out Favre's legs.
"There is probably an art to a quarterback sneak," said Favre, "and it has been so long since I did it, I probably lost the art."
From up top, it appeared that Favre didn't get much push. But it was the penetration inside Moll that derailed the play. Coach Mike McCarthy said at his Monday press conference that Moll's split was too wide and he played it too high.
McCarthy also defended the call. He said the sneak fit into their offense scheme and isn't a play that necessarily needs to be practiced.
"Well, quarterback sneaks, I would think with our quarterback, it's not something we need to practice a whole lot for his number of reps or his career," said McCarthy. "But it something you don't want to expose your offense or defense in a practice environment to injury. So it's all based on footwork. It's a wedge play, so it's another form of combination block. So I disagree with the fact we don't practice that. We're a one team, so combination blocks are things we do every single day."