Official Packers vs. Queens II Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers lead all-time series 63-56-3.

Last meeting: November 21, 2021. Vikings defeated the Packers 34-31. Kirk Cousins threw for 341 yards and 3 TD's. Justin Jefferson had 8 catches for 169 yards and 2 TD's. Aaron Rodgers threw for 385 yards and 4 TD's. MVS had 4 catches for 123 yards and 1 TD. Davante had 7 catches for 115 yards and 2 TD's. Vikings won the game with a walk off field goal after the Packers had tied the game with 2:08 left.

Offensively, Vikings rank 12th in the NFL, 9th in passing and 12th in rushing. Kirk Cousins has passed for 3971 yards with 30 TD passes and 7 INT's. Justin Jefferson had 97 receptions for 1451 yards and 9 TD's. Adam Thielen has 67 receptions for 726 yards and 10 TD's, but had been hurt a lot lately. Dalvin Cook has rushed for 1067 yards and 6 TD's. He has missed 4 games, including last week with Covid.

Defensively, Vikings rank 29th overall, 27th against the pass and 28th against the rush. Opposing Qb's have thrown for 3727 yards with 26 TD passes and 14 INT's. The Vikings have sacked opposing QB's just 25 times, which ranks 28th.

Vikings have won the last 2 meetings between the teams. Vikings have not won 3 in a row since 2008-2009.

[Tony Oday]

No chance we win this game. Our D suddenly can't stop the run and Jefferson will run free in the secondary, couple that with our poor starts and I think the Vikings roll the Pack.

[King Friday]

I'm with Tony. The Vikings offense is very good and they don't turn the ball over. Our defense has become a sieve, unable to put up any kind of resistance against the run or pass. A good gambler would take Minny and the points this week.

[Joemailman]

Vikings offense is very good when Jefferson, Thielen and Cook are all healthy. With Thielen injured, teams can put more of their focus on Jefferson. A lot will depend on the status of Thielen and Cook.

It would be nice to get MVS back. He had a big game against Vikings in November.

[Joemailman]

A star from the CFL might be one option for re-energizing the Green Bay Packers’ return game late in the 2021 season.

The team reported a workout for wide receiver DeVonte Dedmon of the Ottawa Redblacks on Monday. Dedmon, who went undrafted out of William & Mary in the 2019 draft, was a CFL All-Star in 2021 and the recipient of the John Argo Special Teams Award, given annually to the best special teams player in the league.


Dedmon returned 48 punts for 737 yards and two touchdowns and 49 kickoffs for 1,223 yards and one touchdown this past season. Over only 16 career games in the CFL, Dedmon has five return touchdowns, including two kickoffs over 100 yards and two punt returns over 70 yards. His five return touchdowns in his first 15 games set a new CFL record.

With Amari Rodgers out woth Covid, he might have a chance to get signed.

[Teamcheez1]

It’s do or die time for Bakh and Zadarius. Either they practice and play over the next two weeks, or I believe it’s time to move on from them this season. Jaire may still have a chance, but I guess we’ll know tomorrow.

Meyers and Turner, having played this season can perhaps work their way back in for the playoffs.

[call_me_ishmael]

I think all four will be back by the playoffs at the latest. Reinforcements will arrive. They need to. It's do or die.

That said, the Vikings season is over, so the Packers win this one. They have to. Do or die time. Aaron and the D will both nut up. 27 - 24 Packers

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Vikings season isn’t over. With a win over the Packers their playoff odds would improve to 50%. They have a tiebreaker over Philadelphia, and Philadelphia has to play Dallas. The Saints could be a bigger problem for the Vikings. They have a tiebreaker over Minnesota, and they play Carolina and Atlanta the last two weeks.

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky

Matt LaFleur said the Packers' COVID list is "continuing to get longer unfortunately. I think we're somewhere around 15 right now."

Means there will be additions today.



Rob Demovsky

Matt LaFleur said that while Jaire Alexander will be added to the 53 today off IR his return to game action will be "gradual."

"When he's ready, he'll be available. It's making sure everybody feels comfortable with where he's at and making sure he's good for the long haul."




Rob Demovsky

No reinforcements expected on the offensive line just yet.

Matt LaFleur said David Bakhtiari will not practice today, Billy Turner isn't ready to practice yet and Josh Myers isn't ready to start his IR practice window.



Ryan Wood

Matt LaFleur says RT Billy Turner is "still a little ways away" from practice, "but he's made really good progress from what I'm told." #Packers hope to get Turner back "sooner than later," LaFleur says.




Chad Graff

Vikings WR Adam Thielen underwent season-ending surgery on his ankle yesterday, per sources.
theathletic.com
Vikings' Adam Thielen to miss rest of regular season after surgery for ankle injury: Sources
Minnesota Vikings wide receiver Adam Thielen will miss the rest of the regular season after undergoing surgery on his ankle, sources told The....

[Teamcheez1]

Jaire was activated from IR today. Hopefully, we can get him on the field now.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jaire was activated from IR today. Hopefully, we can get him on the field now.

Procedural. They had to activate him this week. MLF said he's not ready to start practicing yet.

[Joemailman]

Procedural. They had to activate him this week. MLF said he's not ready to start practicing yet.

Jaire has been practicing. Whether he's ready to play is another matter.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jaire has been practicing. Whether he's ready to play is another matter.

I think he's been doing individual work on the side. I haven't read that he's started practicing in full. Have you read otherwise?

[Joemailman]

I think he's been doing individual work on the side. I haven't read that he's started practicing in full. Have you read otherwise?

I'm not sure. The information we get from practices in-season is pretty limited.

[Joemailman]

New Packers on Covid.



Rob Demovsky
@RobDemovsky
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Additions to the COVID list:

P Corey Bojorquez
S Henry Black
TE Tyler Davis
DT Kingsley Keke



Bojorquez tested positive yesterday, so he could possibly be available Sunday. Others will be out I believe.

[Joemailman]

If Marcedes Lewis is out Sunday, Packers would be down to Deguara and Dafney at TE.

[Freak Out]

God damn.

[King Friday]

Better to get the COVID crap now than in the playoffs.

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHzgk76XMA0Zcx-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[RashanGary]

Better to get the COVID crap now than in the playoffs.

You sure hope Dallas would drop one so we could really have a Covid outbreak and get it over with

[King Friday]

It’s do or die time for Bakh and Zadarius. Either they practice and play over the next two weeks, or I believe it’s time to move on from them this season. Jaire may still have a chance, but I guess we’ll know tomorrow.

Meyers and Turner, having played this season can perhaps work their way back in for the playoffs.

I don't think Bahk or Z is coming back this year. I hated the signing of Bahk to a record deal. We already got his best years, and now we are going to get a broken down relic at top dollar for years to come. At least we will be able to dump Z.

[Joemailman]

MVS activated from Covid list.

Packers depth chart:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHzxlsjUcAAmiyy?format=jpg&name=large

[RashanGary]

We really can’t afford to lose OL. If we somehow get through this week with a W, maybe we could beat the Lions with more backup OL. Covid is really getting annoying. Last year if we had fans in the stands we’d probably have gone to the SB. This year, it might get messed up again in a different way

[kcpackman]

Lets hope the Packers circle the wagons and get through this one. If we can keep the offense depth chart like it is (fingers crossed) - maybe the Packers can win a shootout. With little wind, the weather is in the Packers favor.

[call_me_ishmael]

If the win this week, the next game doesn't matter at all for the bye, correct? If so, might as well rest up for two weeks and have _every_ player sit on their ass at home and just ride the pelly. Avoid the covid.

[Joemailman]

If the win this week, the next game doesn't matter at all for the bye, correct? If so, might as well rest up for two weeks and have _every_ player sit on their ass at home and just ride the pelly. Avoid the covid.

They would have to win and Dallas lose this week to have everything wrapped up.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If the win this week, the next game doesn't matter at all for the bye, correct? If so, might as well rest up for two weeks and have _every_ player sit on their ass at home and just ride the pelly. Avoid the covid.

You need to take the Wallbanger off your ignore list, hombre. As the Wallbanger stated previously, the Packers can clinch the #1 seed this week if - and only if - they hit the following two phenomena:

1. Beat the Queens, which, according to the nincompoop Tony O’Day, the Packers have “no chance.” It should be noted that orangutans are smarter than O’Day. Therefore, there’s a good chance O’Day was merely nincompooping shit out of his nincompoopic Neanderthal brain.

AND

2. Kyler does Dallas. Catholic Rednecks of Arizona exorcise the Cow-fuckers of Texas.

[call_me_ishmael]

Missed that post. In that case, go Cards!!

[Fritz]

I don't think Bahk or Z is coming back this year. I hated the signing of Bahk to a record deal. We already got his best years, and now we are going to get a broken down relic at top dollar for years to come. At least we will be able to dump Z.


I don't think either is coming back, but even if Bakh came back - outside of increasing the depth of the line - how much difference would it make? He'd be so rusty that it would be not the level of play we associate with his name. Guy hasn't played in a year. Would be nice though to have the depth.

[Joemailman]

I don't think Bahk or Z is coming back this year. I hated the signing of Bahk to a record deal. We already got his best years, and now we are going to get a broken down relic at top dollar for years to come. At least we will be able to dump Z.

If things go badly, they're only stuck with Bakhtiari for one more year. They could cut him after the 2022 season and save 8.7M on the cap.

[Joemailman]

Davante Adams needs 62 receiving yards Sunday to pass Don Hutson for 4th all-time on the Packers in receiving yards. 205 to pass sterling Sharpe for 3rd.

Aaron Jones needs 57 rushing yards to pass Ryan Grant for 5th all-time on the Packers. He needs 111 yards to pass Tony Canadeo for 4th.

[Joemailman]

Rob Demovsky

LaFleur said a couple of the guys who went on the COVID list on Saturday were able to return today. He didn't say who but it was King, Jean-Charles and Hamilton who were down that day.

Also, 3 new cases today: 1 staff and 2 players not on 53.

[Bretsky]

REAL QUESTION FOR MY FF NEW YORK LEAGUE

We get points for receptions, yards per catch, touchdowns by receivers, and total yards and we have to start 4 receivers.


THOUGHTS..............Russell Gage or Tyler Conklin ????????????????

[Joemailman]

REAL QUESTION FOR MY FF NEW YORK LEAGUE

We get points for receptions, yards per catch, touchdowns by receivers, and total yards and we have to start 4 receivers.


THOUGHTS..............Russell Gage or Tyler Conklin ????????????????

Yikes.I don't like either one. Conklin missed practice yesterday with a hamstring. Gage is going up against the NFL's best pass defense. If healthy, I might go with Conklin. With Thielen out, he might get more targets than usual. But if the hamstring is an issue, that sounds like a tough night in single digit weather. In that case, I would go with Gage.

[Joemailman]

This is a surprise.


MK Burgess Retweeted
Ian Rapoport

#Packers WR Randall Cobb, who had core muscle surgery in early December, was back at practice today. The injury generally requires an 8-week recovery, but if Cobb beats the odds, he could be back for the playoffs.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1476631223158116360

[Joemailman]

Alexander practicing.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1476625914222067712

[Bretsky]

Yikes.I don't like either one. Conklin missed practice yesterday with a hamstring. Gage is going up against the NFL's best pass defense. If healthy, I might go with Conklin. With Thielen out, he might get more targets than usual. But if the hamstring is an issue, that sounds like a. tough night in single digit weather. In that case, I would go with Gage.


ya, we have to start 4 WR's and 2 TE's every week. I was going to be happy and pick McKenzie from the Bills up and they activated Beasley and Davis.

So now we have Van Jefferson from the Rams, AH Green, and Gage to choose for our #4 or we can pick up Conklin or MVS. I think Conklin could have a decent game vs. Green Bay given how bad our D has looked lately but who knows. MVS to me is always as wild card

[Fosco33]

So Cook and Thielen both out?

[Joemailman]

So Cook and Thielen both out?

No. Cook is back.

[smuggler]

Alas, Cook is going to feast.

[Bretsky]

Yikes.I don't like either one. Conklin missed practice yesterday with a hamstring. Gage is going up against the NFL's best pass defense. If healthy, I might go with Conklin. With Thielen out, he might get more targets than usual. But if the hamstring is an issue, that sounds like a tough night in single digit weather. In that case, I would go with Gage.

OMG I'm losing my mind

KJ Obborne is the WR I was considering picking up as he usually scores OK with Theilen out

[King Friday]

Well...no Kirk Cousins should give the Packers a huge advantage. No excuse for not getting #1 seed now.

[Fosco33]

Order of likelihood for Vikes starting qb.

Sean mannion
Kyle sloter
Kellen Mond (he got COVID in aug when cousins had to sit as close contact and now he might be the close contact).

Kyle and kellen seem like raw prospects and Sean is a jag.

But our history is making backups play like HoF so I’d just keep the same plan.

[RashanGary]

Well...no Kirk Cousins should give the Packers a huge advantage. No excuse for not getting #1 seed now.

Yep. We just moved up to the odds on favorite to win the 1 seed by a big margin.

[scharpcheddar]

Cousins wouldn't have mattered.Packers weren't losing.
And of course he has nothing anyway.
More lies

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, you got the first line right anyway, cheddar hahahaha.

It does seem like a lot of things have been falling right for the Packers this year.

[Joemailman]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FH9ltnzX0AQ01CR?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Joemailman]

Packers moves.

*Cleared from reserve/COVID list: S Henry Black, LB Tipa Galeai, CB Shemar Jean-Charles, CB Kevin King. OLB La'Darius Hamilton (practice squad).

Added to reserve/COVID: K JJ Molson (practice squad) and LB Ray Wilborn (practice squad)..

[texaspackerbacker]

It seems like the whole special teams room has Covid (minus maybe Crosby). Is that something else Drayton gets the blame for?

[Bretsky]

It seems like the whole special teams room has Covid (minus maybe Crosby). Is that something else Drayton gets the blame for?


NO, but he does get plenty of blame for lack of discipline, execution in lane control, inconsistency, and pretty much failure that has occurred way too much this year.

[MadScientist]

It seems like the whole special teams room has Covid (minus maybe Crosby). Is that something else Drayton gets the blame for?

Or credit for. How much worse can they get?

[call_me_ishmael]

Wow I heard that Kirk Cousins is out this game, that unfortunately means more of Dalvin Cook who is a hoss.

[texaspackerbacker]

I thought I read someplace that Boroquez was on the Covid list. Is that not true? If he's out would it be Crosby doing the punting?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I thought I read someplace that Boroquez was on the Covid list. Is that not true? If he's out would it be Crosby doing the punting?

Bojo has a chance to be activated off the CI on Sunday. The NFL reduced the isolation period to 5 days, and if Bojo has been experiencing symptoms, Packers woulda signed Pat McAfee by now.

Note that the Packers recently worked out a punter not named McAfee. As insurance in case Bojo can’t clear protocols, said punter probably is being holed up inside a luxurious hotel room in Green Bay with all expenses paid for by the Packers, including escort services.

[Fritz]

Order of likelihood for Vikes starting qb.

Sean mannion
Kyle sloter
Kellen Mond (he got COVID in aug when cousins had to sit as close contact and now he might be the close contact).

Kyle and kellen seem like raw prospects and Sean is a jag.

But our history is making backups play like HoF so I’d just keep the same plan.

This rings true for me.

Well, let's see if the DB's play tighter now. And if they step up to tackle Mr. Cook.

Gonna be a test for this Run D. Joe Barely better whip up a game plan that stops Cook.

[kcpackman]

Packers have activated P Corey Bojorquez, G Ben Braden, LB Oren Burks, TE Tyler Davis, TE Marcedes Lewis and LB Ty Summers (reverts to injured reserve) off the reserve/COVID-19 list. All should be available Sunday.

[RashanGary]

Packers have activated P Corey Bojorquez, G Ben Braden, LB Oren Burks, TE Tyler Davis, TE Marcedes Lewis and LB Ty Summers (reverts to injured reserve) off the reserve/COVID-19 list. All should be available Sunday.

I’ll be downright pissed off and have serious doubts about the season if we lose to the Cousins-less Minnesota Vikings. Hell, even if Cook has a monster game in a victory, I’ll still be disappointed. There is zero reason we shouldn’t be able to stop the run when that’s all the Vikings have.

[smuggler]

They'll be without key run-stuffer Michael Pierce in this game, also. We should be able to move the ball on the ground.

[RashanGary]

They'll be without key run-stuffer Michael Pierce in this game, also. We should be able to move the ball on the ground.

I’m kind of hoping Aaron Rodgers has a big day. I want to see his 4th MVP. If he picks up 3 touchdowns tomorrow night, he’s got a real shot at 4 in Ford Field, making 40 total. That locks it up

[kcpackman]

I’ll be downright pissed off and have serious doubts about the season if we lose to the Cousins-less Minnesota Vikings. Hell, even if Cook has a monster game in a victory, I’ll still be disappointed. There is zero reason we shouldn’t be able to stop the run when that’s all the Vikings have.

I feel the same way, which is a concern, because maybe the team feels the same way. I hope, really hope, they learned from the last 2 weeks. I watched the interviews after last weeks game, and most players seemed kinda pissed about what happened, hopefully they still feel that way.

[Joemailman]

I feel the same way, which is a concern, because maybe the team feels the same way. I hope, really hope, they learned from the last 2 weeks. I watched the interviews after last weeks game, and most players seemed kinda pissed about what happened, hopefully they still feel that way.

They've lost last 2 games to the Vikings. I think they'll be very focused to win this game.

Packers now favored by 13 with Cousins out.

[Fosco33]

I’m stoked. Buddy got some free suite tix so headed to lambeau soon sans all the boots, hats, snow gear. Just jeans and a tshirt for one of the colder games at lambeau. Ha!

[smuggler]

Dope. Have fun Fosco!

[Joemailman]

P Corey Bojorquez, G Ben Braden, LB Oren Burks, TE Tyler Davis and TE Marcedes Lewis all good to go..

[kcpackman]

I’m stoked. Buddy got some free suite tix so headed to lambeau soon sans all the boots, hats, snow gear. Just jeans and a tshirt for one of the colder games at lambeau. Ha!

How did you get your hands on those Fosco?

[Fosco33]

How did you get your hands on those Fosco?

My buddy is a pro slot player. Free from poto