2022 NFL Draft Positional Rankings

[HarveyWallbangers]

These are my rankings. I added the consensus rankings for those that are interested. This year I primarily focused on players who were invited to the Scouting Combine, so this is not a complete list. I did add some players who performed well during the all-star bowl season and/or who tested really well at their pro days. I spent a lot of time on this, but I still didn't have the time to study every prospect. :)


QBs

My Rk My Rd Player College Con Rk Con Rd Con Pos Rk
1 1-2 Malik Willis Liberty 1 1-2 1-2
2 1-2 Kenny Pickett Pittsburgh 2 1-2 1-2
3 2 Sam Howell UNC 5 2 4-5
4 2 Matt Corral Ole Miss 3 2 3-4
5 2-3 Desmond Ridder Cincinnati 4 2-3 3-5
6 4 Carson Strong Nevada 6 3-4 6-7
7 5-6 Jack Coan Notre Dame 8 4-FA 6-10
8 6 Cole Kelley SE Louisiana 10 5-FA 8-13
9 6-7 E.J. Perry Brown 12 6-FA 9-13
10 6-7 CHASE GARBERS California 15 7-FA 12-16
11 7 Bailey Zappe Western Kentucky 7 4-FA 7-10
12 7-FA Kaleb Eleby Western Michigan 9 5-FA 8-15
13 PFA Skylar Thompson Kansas State 11 6-FA 8-15
14 PFA Brock Purdy Iowa State 13 7-FA 11-14
15 PFA COLE JOHNSON James Madison 17 7-FA 13-18
16 PFA BRYCE WITT Chowan 18 FA 13-18
17 FA Dustin Crum Kent St 14 6-FA 8-15
18 FA AQEEL GLASS Alabama A&M 16 FA 13-17

Kenny Pickett had the best tape from 2021. Sam Howell's 2020 tape was the best from this class. For some teams I see Pickett being the top prospect. However, his hand size is a major concern. I don't think his hand size meets the threshold for some cold weather teams (like the Packers), so ultimately that was the deciding factor with him not being ranked #1. Willis is similar to Trey Lance in some ways, but I don't think he's as good of a prospect. Lance was much bigger than Willis, had an even stronger arm, and was a really good decision maker in college (1 interception in his college career). Willis shows a lot of promise. He has a big arm and is relatively accurate. He has great mobility and throws really well on the run. However, his decising making was suspect, and he was really loose with the football in the pocket. He does have the most upside in this draft though.

For me accuracy is a very important trait--which led to Ridder being last amongst the top tier QBs. Corrall was hard to evaluate because he was a one read and run QB in college, but there are some interesting traits. He has a quick release, and he's one of the more accurate QBs in the class.

Coan was interesting because I thought he improved a lot throughout the year. He was much better the last 4-5 games (especially against Oklahoma State) than he was at the beginning of the year.

My deep sleeper this year is Chase Garbers. I wish he would have been invited to the combine. I've been relatively decent with my deep sleepers. Logan Woodside in still toiling in the league and Jake Luton got some starts as a rookie--which is pretty good for guys who were weren't projected to get drafted by a majority of sites.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I had Breece Hall ranked as the top RB since before the combine. He was the consensus #3 RB heading into the combine, but then measured 9.96 RAS at the combine. Kenneth Walker is a really good prospect himself, but Hall reminds me of Curtis Martin. I didn't like Spiller that much before the combine, and I think the combine validated it. Same with Kyren Williams. I'm higher on Jerome Ford and Kennedy Brooks than most. I was higher than most on Ty Chandler, but he had a really good combine and moved into mid round range for most.


RBs

My Rk My Rd Player College Con Rk Con Rd Con Pos Rk
1 1-2 Breece Hall Iowa State 2 1-3 1-5
2 2 Kenneth Walker Michigan State 1 2 1-2
3 3-4 Brian Robinson Alabama 4 3-7 3-20
4 3-4 Zamir White Georgia 9 3-7 3-17
5 3-4 Pierre Strong SDSU 10 3-FA 4-25
6 4 James Cook Georgia 6 3-6 3-15
7 4 Rachaad White Arizona State 7 3-6 4-15
8 4 Dameon Pierce Florida 5 3-5 4-18
9 4 Jerome Ford Cincinnati 11 4-6 10-20
10 4-5 Isaiah Spiller Texas A&M 3 1-4 1-4
11 4-5 Ty Chandler UNC 14 4-7 9-19
12 4-5 Tyler Allgeier BYU 12 4-FA 7-22
13 4-5 Kyren Williams Notre Dame 8 4-5 5-14
14 5 Kennedy Brooks Oklahoma 21 5-FA 12-31
15 5 Tyler Badie Missouri 13 3-FA 7-28
16 5-6 Hassan Haskins Michigan 16 4-FA 8-27
17 6 D'Vonte Price FIU 18 5-FA 9-26
18 6-7 Kevin Harris So Carolina 19 4-FA 8-31
19 7 Snoop Conner Ole Miss 29 6-FA 18-34
20 7 Tyrion Davis-Price LSU 27 5-FA 9-35
21 7-FA Abram Smith Baylor 15 4-7 7-23
22 7-FA Jerrion Ealy Ole Miss 17 4-FA 10-25
23 7-FA Jaylen Warren Oklahoma State 32 7-FA 21-36
24 7-FA Tyler Goodson Iowa 23 4-FA 14-37
25 PFA Jashaun Corbin Florida State 24 4-FA 6-35
26 PFA Zonovan Knight NC State 20 4-FA 10-29
27 PFA Zaquandre White South Carolina 22 5-FA 16-32
28 PFA Max Borghi Washington State 28 6-FA 16-32
29 PFA Keaontay Ingram USC 26 6-FA 18-35
30 PFA Isaih Pacheco Rutgers 30 7-FA 23-36
31 FA Sincere McCormick UTSA 25 5-FA 16-33
32 FA C.J. Verdell Oregon 34 7-FA 24-36
33 FA Greg Bell San Diego State 37 FA 24-37
34 FA Ronnie Rivers Fresno State 31 7-FA 21-33
35 FA T.J. PLEDGER Utah 35 7-FA 19-37
36 FA Trestan Ebner Baylor 33 7-FA 22-35
37 FA Leddie Brown West Virginia 36 FA 27-37

[Fritz]

I had Breece Hall ranked as the top RB since before the combine. He was the consensus #3 RB heading into the combine, but then measured 9.96 RAS at the combine. Kenneth Walker is a really good prospect himself, but Hall reminds me of Curtis Martin. I didn't like Spiller that much before the combine, and I think the combine validated it. Same with Kyren Williams. I'm higher on Jerome Ford and Kennedy Brooks than most. I was higher than most on Ty Chandler, but he had a really good combine and moved into mid round range for most.


RBs

My Rk My Rd Player College Con Rk Con Rd Con Pos Rk
1 1-2 Breece Hall Iowa State 2 1-3 1-5
2 2 Kenneth Walker Michigan State 1 2 1-2
3 3-4 Brian Robinson Alabama 4 3-7 3-20
4 3-4 Zamir White Georgia 9 3-7 3-17
5 3-4 Pierre Strong SDSU 10 3-FA 4-25
6 4 James Cook Georgia 6 3-6 3-15
7 4 Rachaad White Arizona State 7 3-6 4-15
8 4 Dameon Pierce Florida 5 3-5 4-18
9 4 Jerome Ford Cincinnati 11 4-6 10-20
10 4-5 Isaiah Spiller Texas A&M 3 1-4 1-4
11 4-5 Ty Chandler UNC 14 4-7 9-19
12 4-5 Tyler Allgeier BYU 12 4-FA 7-22
13 4-5 Kyren Williams Notre Dame 8 4-5 5-14
14 5 Kennedy Brooks Oklahoma 21 5-FA 12-31
15 5 Tyler Badie Missouri 13 3-FA 7-28
16 5-6 Hassan Haskins Michigan 16 4-FA 8-27
17 6 D'Vonte Price FIU 18 5-FA 9-26
18 6-7 Kevin Harris So Carolina 19 4-FA 8-31
19 7 Snoop Conner Ole Miss 29 6-FA 18-34
20 7 Tyrion Davis-Price LSU 27 5-FA 9-35
21 7-FA Abram Smith Baylor 15 4-7 7-23
22 7-FA Jerrion Ealy Ole Miss 17 4-FA 10-25
23 7-FA Jaylen Warren Oklahoma State 32 7-FA 21-36
24 7-FA Tyler Goodson Iowa 23 4-FA 14-37
25 PFA Jashaun Corbin Florida State 24 4-FA 6-35
26 PFA Zonovan Knight NC State 20 4-FA 10-29
27 PFA Zaquandre White South Carolina 22 5-FA 16-32
28 PFA Max Borghi Washington State 28 6-FA 16-32
29 PFA Keaontay Ingram USC 26 6-FA 18-35
30 PFA Isaih Pacheco Rutgers 30 7-FA 23-36
31 FA Sincere McCormick UTSA 25 5-FA 16-33
32 FA C.J. Verdell Oregon 34 7-FA 24-36
33 FA Greg Bell San Diego State 37 FA 24-37
34 FA Ronnie Rivers Fresno State 31 7-FA 21-33
35 FA T.J. PLEDGER Utah 35 7-FA 19-37
36 FA Trestan Ebner Baylor 33 7-FA 22-35
37 FA Leddie Brown West Virginia 36 FA 27-37

When the Packers pick someone early on whom I've never heard of at a position for which I think they have no need, and I panic, I will look to this thread to find the name, probably a high ranking, and reassurance.

Thanks, Harv, for the work.

[run pMc]

Agree - thanks for the work. I wasn't a big fan of Hall at first but am coming around. I think either he or Walker will be the first RB taken, likely in R2.
As for QB, I think Ridder is the best of a bad lot but Pickett is probably my #2. Garbers, Zappe, and Thompson also intrigue as late pick gambles.

Malik Willis scares me - he's overrated. Very raw prospect who some team will turn into a bust before he can develop. The name that comes to mind for some reason is EJ Manuel even though I doubt it's a fair comparison.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I must say that RB, especially those that aren't obviously special on film, is probably my worst position at evaluating. I liked Jonathan Taylor two years ago and Javonte Williams last year as RB1, and I think those guys will end up being the top dogs. However, I've pretty awful at the position. I will post more positions this weekend. I'm out for a bit and I'm still finishing up some of the defensive rankings.

[call_me_ishmael]

Do you ever think about doing this professionally Harv? I bet you could build a nice following and thus $$$ if you did this on Twitter or something. Matt Miller probably makes bank and I bet you could do it in more detail.

[run pMc]

Just saw McGinn getting in on the fun:
https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-1-wrte-does-size-matter

the summary is free but the details are behind a paywall. Interesting to hear what his scouts have to say about the class, size, bust potential, etc.

[RashanGary]

Just saw McGinn getting in on the fun:
https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-1-wrte-does-size-matter

the summary is free but the details are behind a paywall. Interesting to hear what his scouts have to say about the class, size, bust potential, etc.

Its almost like he read our conversations because he used the top 25 all time receiver list to see if these size ranges work. His weights were much lower than the ones listed on pro football reference but McGinn has draft weights and I had their maxed out NFL weights.

[RashanGary]

Draft weights of a few good players

Isaac Bruce (5-11 1/2, 173, 4.53)
Marvin Harrison (6-0, 180, 4.29)
Andre Reed (6-1 1/2, 185, 4.55)

[RashanGary]

Dotson weighed 184 at his pro day. He might have lost some weight so he could run a faster 40 time.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Do you ever think about doing this professionally Harv? I bet you could build a nice following and thus $$$ if you did this on Twitter or something. Matt Miller probably makes bank and I bet you could do it in more detail.

I'm not remotely good enough to do this professionally.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Draft weights of a few good players

Isaac Bruce (5-11 1/2, 173, 4.53)
Marvin Harrison (6-0, 180, 4.29)
Andre Reed (6-1 1/2, 185, 4.55)

I don't think anybody's ever argued that there wasn't room for a small WR in the right system. My guess is that most of the small WRs have elite agility. I'm going to look that up.

In my draft DB--going back to 2014:

Little guys who were good--since 2014:

Brandin Cooks (5'10" 189) = 6.76 3 cone
Tyler Lockett (5'10" 182) = 6.89 3 cone
Tyreek Hill (5'8" 185) = 6.53 3 cone
Diontae Johnson (5'11" 183) = 7.09 3 cone
Hunter Renfrow (5'11" 180) = 6.80 3 cone
Elijah Moore (5'9" 178) = 6.65 3 cone (he wasn't technically good last year, primarily because of injury, but I liked what I saw when he did play)

Other little guys last year: Rondale Moore (5'7" 181, 6.68 3 cone), D'Wayne Eskridge (5'9" 190, 6.95 3 cone)

NOTE: Marquise Brown, Devonta Smith, and Jaylen Waddle didn't test in 3 cone.

[bobblehead]

I'm not remotely good enough to do this professionally.

I don't think being good is really a priority. Entertaining with bold, often wrong, opinions is what it takes. That description fits a good many of us here on packerrats.

That said, are you as down on this QB class as I am? I think the top 3 or 4 will be total busts with the dude from Reno being a career backup and possibly the best of the bunch. If I were a GM trying to trade Jordan Love, this would be the time. If you can't leverage him for a 2nd in this draft you never will. Then bring in my boy Blake Bortles as the backup and have fun with your 5 picks in the first 2 rounds.

[Fritz]

Yeah, Harv, when did you get the idea that knowing what you are doing is a requirement?

In fact, your level of expertise would probably be above and beyond what most of these entertainment yahoos post, and that could be your calling card - "Hey, that HarveyWallbangers guy actually looks at film and compares these guys! It's crazy!"

[run pMc]

Mel Kiper has no qualifications other than he was a draft fan and he got into it early.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Trying something out. :)


Year Pos Rk Rd Player School CRk CRd CPR PR DRk DRd DTm Age Hgt Wgt Arms Hands Wing 40yd 10yd Sht 3-Cone Vert Broad Bch SpR ExR Ath RAS Fit Hand Acc Arm Rel Foot Mob Poise Pre Post Dec Off Lead BNB CBS DN ESPN MDB NFL PFF Cons Scheme Fit Comparison SG SB Combine Film Best Games Worst Games Games Watched
2022 QB 1 1-2 Malik Willis Liberty 1 1-2 1-2 11-43 23 6'1" 219 31 6/8 9 4/8 77 3/8 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0 0 400 -60 216 0.00 Yes Solid Solid Great Good Avg Elite Poor Avg Avg Avg Great Good 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.1 Option Kordell Stewart Good Good 8.5 So Miss 2020, ODU, UAB UL-Monroe, Louisiana ODU, UAB || VA Tech 2020, Syr, Ole Miss || Louisiana
2022 QB 2 1-2 Kenny Pickett Pittsburgh 2 1-2 1-4 16-42 24 6'3" 217 30 7/8 8 4/8 72 6/8 4.73 1.56 4.29 0.00 33.5 121 0 186 73 141 9.55 No Poor Good Solid Solid Good Good Avg Solid Great Good Great Great 1 2 2 2 2 2 4 2.1 Precision Derek Carr Good Good 8.5 Tenn, GA Tech, Duke Miami, Virginia Clemson, Tenn, Duke || VA Tech, Virginia, Miami || None
2022 QB 3 2 Sam Howell UNC 5 2 2-5 34-64 21 6'1" 218 30 6/8 9 1/8 75 5/8 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0 0 400 -60 216 0.00 Yes Avg Solid Good Solid Elite Good Solid Good Solid Solid Solid Solid 4 4 5 5 5 5 2 4.3 Versatile Dak Prescott Solid Solid 8.0 Fla St 2020, Wake 2020 VA Tech, Wake ND, Pitt, Wake 2020, Fla St 2020 || Wake || VA Tech
2022 QB 4 2 Matt Corral Ole Miss 3 2 3-5 33-55 23 6'2" 212 30 6/8 9 5/8 74 4/8 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0 0 400 -60 216 0.00 Yes Solid Solid Solid Good Avg Good Avg Avg Solid Avg Solid Good 3 3 4 3 3 3 5 3.4 Option Johnny Manziel Inj 8.0 Bama 2020, Ark, Miss St Tenn, Aub, Tex A&M So Car 2020, Ark || Bama 2020 || Tenn, Tex A&M, Bama
2022 QB 5 2-3 Desmond Ridder Cincinnati 4 2-3 3-5 36-74 22 6'3" 211 32 6/8 10 78 7/8 4.52 1.54 4.29 7.15 36.0 127 0 77 81 79 9.61 Yes Good Avg Good Great Solid Good Avg Avg Good Solid Good Great 5 5 3 4 4 4 3 4.0 Versatile Ryan Tannehill Solid Good 7.5 ND, SMU Navy, Tulane, Bama Sr Bowl, SMU || Indiana, ND || Navy, Bama
2022 QB 6 4 Carson Strong Nevada 6 3-4 6-7 68-104 22 6'3" 226 32 9 1/8 76 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0 0 400 -60 216 0.00 No Avg Good Solid Good Solid Poor Solid Good Solid Good Avg Great 6 6 6 6 6 7 6 6.1 Vertical Ryan Griffin Avg Avg 6.0 NMSU, Fresno St Cal, SJSU Fresno St || Fresno St 2020, Boise St, Kan St, Cal || Sr Bowl
2022 QB 7 6 Jack Coan Notre Dame 8 5-FA 6-11 158-274 23 6'3" 218 31 1/8 9 4/8 75 4/8 4.90 1.66 4.39 6.95 33.0 115 0 70 68 69 7.70 Yes Solid Solid Avg Solid Good Avg Good Good Good Good Avg Good 9 9 7 9 10 6 11 8.7 Versatile Clayton Thorson Great Solid 4.0 Fla St, Okla St Wisc, Cincy Okla St, Shrine Bowl || Fla St, USC || Cincy, Wisc
2022 QB 8 6 Cole Kelley SE Louisiana 11 5-FA 8-13 166-300 24 6'7" 249 33 6/8 9 7/8 82 2/8 5.14 1.70 4.98 8.00 0.0 0 0 36 -60 -2 2.40 No Good Solid Good Avg Avg Avg Solid Avg Solid Avg Solid Avg 8 11 13 10 13 11 13 11.3 Vertical Brock Osweiler (Good) Solid 4.0 UIW, Fla A&M LA Tech, JMU Nicholls St, Fla A&M || LA Tech, NFLPA Bowl || None
2022 QB 9 6-7 E.J. Perry Brown 12 6-FA 9-14 213-300 23 6'2" 211 32 9 75 7/8 4.65 1.58 4.18 6.85 34.5 123 0 82 76 80 9.43 Yes Avg Avg Avg Avg Avg Good Solid Good Poor Poor Good Good 11 13 13 11 9 10 14 11.6 Option Kyle Lauletta Great Solid 3.5 Harvard, Colgate, Princeton Cornell, Penn Shrine Bowl || Colgate, Princeton || None
2022 QB 10 7 CHASE GARBERS California 15 7-FA 12-16 297-300 23 6'2" 218 31 3/8 9 74 6/8 4.83 1.56 0.00 0.00 32.0 112 0 294 65 203 7.02 Yes Avg Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Poor Solid Solid Solid Avg Solid 16 16 13 12 16 12 14 14.1 Versatile Sam Ehlinger (Great) N/I 3.0 TCU, Ore St Wash, Wash St, UCLA Ore St, TCU, NFLPA Bowl || Stanford || Ore, Wash St
2022 QB 11 7 Bailey Zappe W Kentucky 7 4-FA 7-10 107-291 23 6'1" 215 31 3/8 9 6/8 74 6/8 4.88 1.60 4.40 7.19 30.0 109 0 70 59 66 5.97 No Good Solid Poor Avg Solid Avg Good Good Solid Solid Avg Solid 7 7 10 7 7 9 7 7.7 Precision David Fales Avg Avg 3.0 Mich St, App State Army, MTSU, Marshall None || UTSA (2), App State || UTSA (1), Sr Bowl, Army
2022 QB 12 7-FA Kaleb Eleby W Michigan 9 5-FA 8-15 166-300 22 6'1" 208 30 5/8 9 2/8 75 6/8 4.91 1.66 4.65 7.57 25.5 111 0 54 53 53 1.70 No Avg Solid Avg Good Avg Avg Solid Avg Solid Great Avg Solid 10 10 9 15 8 14 9 10.7 Option Thad Lewis Avg 2.5 Toledo 2020, Pitt, NIU Mich, Ball St NIU, Pitt, Kent St || Mich || Toledo 2020
2022 QB 13 PFA Skylar Thompson Kansas St 10 6-FA 8-15 187-298 25 6'2" 217 31 8 5/8 74 7/8 4.91 1.62 4.28 7.00 31.0 112 0 74 63 70 7.15 No Poor Solid Avg Solid Avg Solid Solid Avg Solid Great Solid Solid 13 8 8 8 15 15 10 11.0 Precision J.T. O'Sullivan Good Avg 2.0 Okla, LSU TCU, Baylor Shrine Bowl || LSU, Okla || Baylor
2022 QB 14 PFA Brock Purdy Iowa St 13 5-FA 8-14 165-299 22 6'1" 212 29 9 2/8 69 6/8 4.84 1.61 4.45 7.24 27.0 0 0 67 -11 36 4.49 No Avg Solid Poor Solid Solid Solid Avg Solid Good Avg Solid Solid 12 14 11 14 11 13 8 11.9 Precision C.J. Beathard Avg Avg 2.0 Okla 2019, Okla St Iowa, Clemson Okla St || Shrine Bowl, Texas || Baylor, Clemson, Iowa
2022 QB 15 PFA COLE JOHNSON JMU 17 7-FA 12-18 241-300 0 6'4" 220 33 5/8 8 7/8 79 7/8 4.97 1.69 4.32 0.00 28.5 112 0 177 59 129 5.69 No Poor Avg Solid Avg Solid Avg Good Avg Avg Solid Avg Solid 18 12 13 15 17 17 14 15.1 Vertical Dan Orlovsky (Good) N/I 2.0 SE La, Mont Delaware, NDSU Tropical Bowl || Mont || NDSU
2022 QB 16 PFA BRYCE WITT Chowan 18 FA 13-18 297-300 0 6'2" 229 30 6/8 9 4/8 73 2/8 5.00 1.71 4.45 7.32 29.5 108 0 59 58 59 3.64 No Solid Solid Solid Solid Solid Avg Solid Poor Solid Avg Solid Avg 14 16 13 15 18 17 14 15.3 Versatile Josh Woodrum (Good) N/A 2.0 N/A N/A HBCU Bowl || None || None
2022 QB 17 FA Dustin Crum Kent St 14 7-FA 8-15 256-300 23 6'1" 210 31 6/8 9 3/8 77 4.75 1.60 4.36 0.00 32.5 0 0 182 -2 108 7.21 Poss Solid Avg Avg Poor Poor Solid Great Good Avg Good Avg Good 15 15 12 15 12 8 12 12.7 Option Brady White Poor Avg 1.0 Iowa, CMU, Wyo Tex A&M, NIU (2) Buffalo || Wyo || Shrine Bowl, Tex A&M
2022 QB 18 FA AQEEL GLASS Alabama A&M 16 FA 13-17 297-300 24 6'4" 231 32 1/8 8 5/8 76 7/8 5.27 1.68 4.82 7.64 23.5 99 0 47 42 45 1.11 No Poor Poor Good Poor Poor Poor Solid Solid Solid Good Poor Good 17 16 13 13 14 16 14 14.7 Vertical Landry Jones (Good) N/I 1.0 Tex So, MVSU, SC State Fla A&M, Grambling NFLPA Bowl || Tex So, Ala St, HBCU Bowl || Grambling

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wish my draft spreadsheet would be properly formatted when I paste it here. I don't have the time to sit and format every position group manually.

[call_me_ishmael]

I'm not remotely good enough to do this professionally.

You think Matt Miller is any good? I'm not so sure he's better.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wish my draft spreadsheet would be properly formatted when I paste it here. I don't have the time to sit and format every position group manually.

Link to a public google sheet?

[call_me_ishmael]

I don't think being good is really a priority. Entertaining with bold, often wrong, opinions is what it takes. That description fits a good many of us here on packerrats.

That said, are you as down on this QB class as I am? I think the top 3 or 4 will be total busts with the dude from Reno being a career backup and possibly the best of the bunch. If I were a GM trying to trade Jordan Love, this would be the time. If you can't leverage him for a 2nd in this draft you never will. Then bring in my boy Blake Bortles as the backup and have fun with your 5 picks in the first 2 rounds.

I would do the same in a second.

[Upnorth]

Couple of things,

1) I have seen a few drafts where penning drops to us. Harv, have you done ol? I can't see any way he makes it past top 12. What am I missing.

2) unless love is absolute garbage (we have not seen that. We have seen an average qb) we would be fools to trade away live.
From what I have seen average qbs aren't easy to come by and cost 10mil plus. If our 38 yr old qb gets injured I don't want a high drafted 50/50 bust out there. I dont want some late round 75% probable bust out there. I want a confident average that is affordable. That is what love is from what I have seen.
I get you hated the pick but an average qb as backup on a cheap contract is better than an extra lotto ticket on a team with more draft capital already than on aong long time.
Plus if he is average and sees the field (I hope not) this year we will likely get a mid round pick and player next year if the brass has a misdirected hardon for trading him.

[Bretsky]

Is love even average ? If you can get a 2nd or 3rd I am saying bye.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Couple of things,

1) I have seen a few drafts where penning drops to us. Harv, have you done ol? I can't see any way he makes it past top 12. What am I missing.

I didn't think Penning was very good at the Senior Bowl. He got beat a lot and was out of control. Then, I watched him against North Dakota State and Iowa State and didn't think he was special. He averaged a penalty/game in college and really struggles with speed. I think there's a very good chance he ends up at OG in the NFL.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Link to a public google sheet?

I forgot I even had a Google account. I don't think I've used it in 4 years.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I've uploaded my offensive rankings. There's a lot to process with this spreadsheet. If anyone cares and needs an explanation on something, let me know. This wasn't intended to be understandable to the public. :) When I finalize my defensive rankings, I will upload again with all of my rankings. I will also include worksheets with traits explanation, Packers historical data (going back to 2005 when TT took over), which combine drills matter at each position, etc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15DnKEvldNUiKWjvpuJLciZC0xcrB2S7XRO5-PXGBX6Y/edit?usp=sharing

[Fritz]

I've uploaded my offensive rankings. There's a lot to process with this spreadsheet. If anyone cares and needs an explanation on something, let me know. This wasn't intended to be understandable to the public. :) When I finalize my defensive rankings, I will upload again with all of my rankings. I will also include worksheets with traits explanation, Packers historical data (going back to 2005 when TT took over), which combine drills matter at each position, etc.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15DnKEvldNUiKWjvpuJLciZC0xcrB2S7XRO5-PXGBX6Y/edit?usp=sharing

Harvey "Son of Ted" Wallbangers.

Thank you!

[run pMc]

I didn't think Penning was very good at the Senior Bowl. He got beat a lot and was out of control. Then, I watched him against North Dakota State and Iowa State and didn't think he was special. He averaged a penalty/game in college and really struggles with speed. I think there's a very good chance he ends up at OG in the NFL.

I get the feeling Penning could be a holding penalty waiting to happen on the pro level. A lot of scouts and fans love him, so who knows.
With GB coaching he could be pretty good, but I haven't watched him enough to be sold on him yet.

Small school player but played ok against higher competition. Still, if you're going to draft a player who ends up at G in R1 take Zion Johnson... otherwise wait until Day2/3.

[Upnorth]

I see penning as an athletic freak who had some of the best pass and run block numbers in college. He is an ideal zone blocker who is nasty. We need that.
I think the only positions I am any good at seeing pitential is ol and rb. Admittedly some here think im an idiot when it comes to my line assesments (quick tex shout out) but I would love to see us take him at 22.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Dude was walked back repeatedly at the Senior Bowl, and he got frustrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6uJDDqK3D4

[Fritz]

He's not "Grabby Smurf," he's "Grabby Giant."

[run pMc]

Didn't seem to have a great anchor, and let guys get inside him. 1-1's can be unfair to the OT's and actual game tape would be better. I'm not a fan, but I also admit to not seeing much video of him either.
I don't think he's a clear and obvious pick for GB, but I think someone will take him R1.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Didn't seem to have a great anchor, and let guys get inside him. 1-1's can be unfair to the OT's and actual game tape would be better. I'm not a fan, but I also admit to not seeing much video of him either.

I agree, but reports would have you believe he was just mauling people at the Senior Bowl. It was more him getting frustrated and going a bit over the line. I think I see more smoke coming out of his ear holes each time he got beat. :)

[HarveyWallbangers]

Prediction: Gary whoops Penning’s ass this week and Penning starts a fight with him.

[Joemailman]

Prediction: Gary whoops Penning’s ass this week and Penning starts a fight with him.

If he starts a fight with Gary, I give him credit for having nerve, if not brains.

[run pMc]

Penning got kicked out of practice after getting in three fights. Unless he learns to control himself he's going to get flagged or DQ'd.

I would love to see him go up against Suh.