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HarveyWallbangers
04-30-2022, 04:36 PM
CBS Sports


Romeo Doubs WR, NEVADA
Height: 6-2, Weight: 201

I like this pick more in Green Bay than I would have for other teams. Doubs is a field-stretcher who tracks it awesomely deep. Spindly frame and not great at beating press. Won't be a big-time separator and YAC is average.

Rating: 70.85 (Chance to start)

Pro Comparison: Zach Pascal

Strengths:

Decently sized vertical specialist with high-caliber ball-tracking skills. His spindly frame really makes him susceptible to contact during the route. Minimal YAC. Some wiggle to beat press but not a specialty. Best when he get click on the jets and get vertical, will run by some slower CBs in those scenarios and will run down the football.

Weaknesses:

Really struggles against physicality. Routes aren't brutal but he's not an explosive, twitchy type. At times, it'll draw flags of course, but in many instances he's simply disrupted from his route and either can't get open or won't get to where he needs to be when he needs to be there. Speed is good, not great.

Bretsky
04-30-2022, 04:40 PM
I liked this pick but it was based on media heads in the podcasts I listened to pre draft pimping him as a great fit in GB

I still want another high upside WR with one of our 4 picks in R7.

Bretsky
04-30-2022, 06:08 PM
ew Green Bay Packers receiver Romeo Doubs, taken with the 132nd overall selection, is coming off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons for Nevada.

GREEN BAY, Wis. – The Green Bay Packers struck again at receiver, using the first of their fourth-round picks in the 2022 NFL Draft on Nevada’s Romeo Doubs.

That pick comes on the heels of trading up for North Dakota State’s Christian Watson in the second round on Friday.

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Here’s the story on Doubs.

Measureables: 6-1 7/8, 201. 10 hands. DNP testing (knee)

Stats: Doubs is one of the most productive receivers in the class. In four seasons, he caught 224 passes for 3,322 yards (14.8 average) and 26 touchdowns. He had 40-plus receptions in every season and 1,000-plus yards as a junior and senior. In 2021, he caught 80 balls for 1,109 yards (13.9 average) and 11 touchdowns. Plus, he averaged 12.5 yards per punt return with one touchdown in four seasons.

Deeper Stats: According to PFF, he had four drops (4.8 percent), averaged 4.0 YAC and had 12 receptions on passes thrown 20-plus yards downfield. His contested-catch rate was an excellent 60.0 percent. According to Sports Info Solutions, he forced 15 missed tackles per 100 touches, good for 25th out of 46 receivers it ranked in the draft class, and was 14th with 10.0 yards per target.

Personal Touch: Doubs’ older brother, Jarmaine, who played cornerback at Southern Utah, got Romeo hooked on football when he was 4. “The Lord’s definitely blessed me with him because everything I learned was with him," Doubs told Nevada Sports Net. "Eventually I was going to have to come here to college and grow up on my own, so whenever things didn’t go my way, whether it was in a harsh way, he had to be on me. Or if it was just me talking to him being able to figure out and just get advice and learn then elevate from there.”

Bretsky
04-30-2022, 06:09 PM
At the Scouting Combine, he said he watched a lot of A.J. Green. The Senior Bowl was a key piece to his path to the NFL. "I learned Senior Bowl week that I can compete with anybody, whether if you go to Alabama, if you go to Penn State," Doubs said. "I'm just a kid who comes from from the city of L.A. who's just got a chip on his shoulder. So I think up into that, I just knew that I had to give my best shot out there. And I thought I did great at doing that because I got some I got some people's attention."

NFL Draft Bible Scouting Report: Doubs is the definition of a true vertical threat. Doubs has a high-cut 6’2 frame and uses this to really open up his stride and hit a true second gear downfield. Very good vertical separator who stacks DB’s downfield with an innate feel for keeping on defenders back. Juice to separate vertically, but also capable of stopping on a dime. Doubs has inside/outside versatility and a clean release package when allowed to release freely. On vertical routes, Doubs shows the ability to high point with a wide catch radius.

Jaire
04-30-2022, 06:56 PM
Like the Dobbs pick. Seems underrated.

HarveyWallbangers
05-01-2022, 03:27 AM
ESPN


Pre-Draft Analysis
Doubs led the FBS in catches (12), touchdowns (9) and receiving yards (500) on post routes over the past two seasons, according to ESPN Stats & Information research. He shakes defenders with quick feet at the line of scrimmage and tracks the ball well. He has the big mitts, length and body control to adjust to passes thrown outside his frame, and he flashes the ability to make the first defender miss after the catch. -- Steve Muench

run pMc
05-01-2022, 11:04 AM
He's better than J'Mon Moore.

Can return punts and run deep routes. Like all these guys his route tree needs developing but he has good potential to be a WR2/3. Injury affected his ability to test out, but I suspect his agility is so-so and his flying 20 better than his overall. Not a burner but it seems like he has a second gear.

Decent value pick for a guy who had a productive career. Led the Wolfpack in receiving yards his last two seasons, was 2 on team his Soph year. With good coaching he could be a good player.

Joemailman
05-01-2022, 12:47 PM
Does Doubs have some James Jones in him?

Jaire
05-01-2022, 01:25 PM
He's better than J'Mon Moore.

Can return punts and run deep routes. Like all these guys his route tree needs developing but he has good potential to be a WR2/3. Injury affected his ability to test out, but I suspect his agility is so-so and his flying 20 better than his overall. Not a burner but it seems like he has a second gear.

Decent value pick for a guy who had a productive career. Led the Wolfpack in receiving yards his last two seasons, was 2 on team his Soph year. With good coaching he could be a good player.

Agreed. He's a legit prospect: I think he was good "draft value" as Gute said. We used about roughly the 22 & 53 in draft capital to nab 3 guys, all whom I lile.

run pMc
05-04-2022, 11:33 AM
It's being reported that at the Senior Bowl, Doubs and Watson had some of the fastest recorded speeds there - presumably determined with GPS chips. He's got some build up speed and is a taller receiver so he might eat up cushion fast. Seems like his hands/concentration is ok and contested catches aren't a problem. Might have some James Jones to him, but I think Jones was a bigger body. Doubs looks a bit more linear/high cut to me.

RashanGary
05-04-2022, 08:24 PM
He had a knack for taking the top off a defense.

Jon Eric Sullivan, Packer scout, said he ran 4.5s but that his game speed is legit. Said he showed potential to be a good route runner with his breaks and cuts.

James Jones compared him to Greg Jennings, said hes smooth in and out of his breaks and has high potential as a route runner.

This is a really interesting pick. Good size. High potential as a route runner. Knack to win deep. He could round into an all around receiver. Kind of a prototypical skill set

Fritz
05-05-2022, 09:27 AM
He had a knack for taking the top off a defense.

Jon Eric Sullivan, Packer scout, said he ran 4.5s but that his game speed is legit. Said he showed potential to be a good route runner with his breaks and cuts.

James Jones compared him to Greg Jennings, said hes smooth in and out of his breaks and has high potential as a route runner.

This is a really interesting pick. Good size. High potential as a route runner. Knack to win deep. He could round into an all around receiver. Kind of a prototypical skill set

Reading this thread has given me a boner.

run pMc
05-05-2022, 10:42 AM
I need to watch more video of him, but I guess he torched his share of Senior Bowl CBs, and went from being a deep threat to catching more intermediate routes last year, so his route tree isn't completely barren. He could surprise people if given the chance to develop. At a minimum he can play ST and unless he turns into Cory Rodgers should get a roster spot based on that and his draft status.

I'm on the bandwagon just because of his name lol.

George Cumby
05-05-2022, 10:56 AM
The TD at 1:28 was pretty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ab2kAqinZs

Hard to see the speed in this video, but looks like he's got great hands.

RashanGary
05-08-2022, 06:06 PM
I dont know if he has the speed to be a complete player. If his speed ends up being adequate, he does show the upside to run the full route tree. In breaking, out breaking, slants, quick outs, come backs, etc. If he can win on a few go routes, he has potential to be an all around WR as he masters his routes and chemistry with 12.

Jaire
05-09-2022, 06:15 AM
I dont know if he has the speed to be a complete player. If his speed ends up being adequate, he does show the upside to run the full route tree. In breaking, out breaking, slants, quick outs, come backs, etc. If he can win on a few go routes, he has potential to be an all around WR as he masters his routes and chemistry with 12.

He has wheels.

"Romeo Doubs clocked in at 21.25 MPH at the #SeniorBowl yesterday, which was the 2nd fastest of the day behind DB Josh Williams time of 21.75 MPH."

https://twitter.com/NickPenticoff/status/1488965752950771712?s=20&t=Og86Dcmctf6HcXK6FysH3A

Joemailman
05-09-2022, 08:21 AM
I agree with James Jones. Doubs looks a lot like Greg Jennings. That's why I mentioned in another thread that Doubs could be a big contributor sooner than Watson. Jennings was the kind of receiver who was NFL-ready right from the start. I remember the Packers WR coach comparing him to Marvin Harrison. A guy like Watson might have more of an adjustment period.

Jaire
05-09-2022, 08:26 AM
I agree with James Jones. Doubs looks a lot like Greg Jennings. That's why I mentioned in another thread that Doubs could be a big contributor sooner than Watson. Jennings was the kind of receiver who was NFL-ready right from the start. I remember the Packers WR coach comparing him to Marvin Harrison. A guy like Watson might have more of an adjustment period.

I completely agree with this. Watson will take time, but he can be used so many ways even early. I really like Doubs, a lot. And both seem like great kids, very much what GB targets early. Gonna be pros: gotta like having Cobb in the locker room for their first year or two.

texaspackerbacker
05-09-2022, 10:26 AM
Hopefully the positivity about Doubs is justified. Watson is the one, though, who seems both NFL ready and has a huge upside.

King Friday
05-09-2022, 10:50 AM
Hopefully the positivity about Doubs is justified. Watson is the one, though, who seems both NFL ready and has a huge upside.

How is Watson NFL ready? I love the kid's athleticism, but he's coming from a college program that did not play against elite defensive talent, and was a run first offense that passed the ball less than 20 times a game. To me, that does not equate to getting a kid ready for the NFL. Watson is going to have a very steep learning curve this year, but just getting behind the defense once a game will be enough to keep defenses honest. He has the ability to go to the house on any snap, which is a threat this offense needed to add.

jklowan
05-09-2022, 01:42 PM
How is Watson NFL ready? I love the kid's athleticism, but he's coming from a college program that did not play against elite defensive talent, and was a run first offense that passed the ball less than 20 times a game. To me, that does not equate to getting a kid ready for the NFL. Watson is going to have a very steep learning curve this year, but just getting behind the defense once a game will be enough to keep defenses honest. He has the ability to go to the house on any snap, which is a threat this offense needed to add.

And of the 3 receivers we picked up he has the highest chance of being a total bust

texaspackerbacker
05-09-2022, 01:45 PM
Football family, high IQ/Wonderlic, but mostly just the ability to excel in so many ways. Mark my words (again), and hold it against me if it turns out not to be true. Watson, barring injury, will 1. be the Packers top receiver by a wide margin in his first year 2. be considered one of the top WRs in the league from the first year on 3. outperform the 2022 Raiders version of Davante Adams 4. approach Davante's Packer numbers last season 5. blow away everybody in the league over his career or at least as long as Rodgers is the Packers QB. "Kid gon be the truth,” - Davante Adams about Christian Watson.

Joemailman
05-09-2022, 01:49 PM
And of the 3 receivers we picked up he has the highest chance of being a total bust

Maybe. But also the one with the most potential to be a Randy Moss-type talent. But really, I don't think there's that much chance of him being a total bust. I think his floor is an MVS type player.

texaspackerbacker
05-09-2022, 01:55 PM
Randy Moss is a good comparison, Calvin Johnson too, also APB's favorite, D.K. Metcalf. Watson has all the physical ability of those three plus probably a lot more intelligence and most importantly of all, Aaron Rodgers throwing to him.

Sparkey
05-09-2022, 01:55 PM
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Sparkey
05-09-2022, 01:58 PM
Football family, high IQ/Wonderlic, but mostly just the ability to excel in so many ways. Mark my words (again), and hold it against me if it turns out not to be true. Watson, barring injury, will 1. be the Packers top receiver by a wide margin in his first year 2. be considered one of the top WRs in the league from the first year on 3. outperform the 2022 Raiders version of Davante Adams 4. approach Davante's Packer numbers last season 5. blow away everybody in the league over his career or at least as long as Rodgers is the Packers QB. "Kid gon be the truth,” - Davante Adams about Christian Watson.

You should share the meds your on. There is no way that Doubs even comes remotely close to What Carr and Adams numbers.

texaspackerbacker
05-09-2022, 01:58 PM
You whiners and dumbasses can spew shit all you want, but this was an exceptional draft pick - the best WR in the draft IMO, and in addition to what I said above, he will outperform any other WR drafted this year.

Upon rereading, I see Sparkey was referring to Doubs. Nothing negative about Doubs, but I'm talking (obviously) about Watson - as are the detractors, I think. Keep up, Sparkey hahahaha.

Sparkey
05-09-2022, 01:59 PM
The two years Carr and Adams played together at Fresno State:

2012 season: 102 catches, 1,312 yards, 14 touchdowns
2013 season: 131 catches, 1,719 yards, 24 touchdowns

And now they are both far better than they were then.

Sparkey
05-09-2022, 02:07 PM
You whiners and dumbasses can spew shit all you want, but this was an exceptional draft pick - the best WR in the draft IMO, and in addition to what I said above, he will outperform any other WR drafted this year.

Upon rereading, I see Sparkey was referring to Doubs. Nothing negative about Doubs, but I'm talking (obviously) about Watson - as are the detractors, I think. Keep up, Sparkey hahahaha.

Keep up !? Why are you rambling on about Watson in a thread about Doubs? Unless maybe that medication causes episodes of delirium. If so, maybe contact your visiting nurse.

jklowan
05-09-2022, 03:08 PM
I have high hopes but he could very well be a bust, I think early on Doubs will look the best as he seems a little more refined, by the end of the season I hope Watson establishes himself, time will tell. I thought Rodgers was gonna be a big time player last year and he never saw the field, hopefully he has a big 2nd year bump as well, I have not lost faith, he also had a great pedigree.

Upnorth
05-10-2022, 07:25 AM
Maybe. But also the one with the most potential to be a Randy Moss-type talent. But really, I don't think there's that much chance of him being a total bust. I think his floor is an MVS type player.

I basically just said this in the watson thread.
I am going to enjoy seeing watson and doubs on the outside. Not many teams have 2 CB with elite speed. Can 12 find the one open?

George Cumby
05-10-2022, 07:47 AM
I basically just said this in the watson thread.
I am going to enjoy seeing watson and doubs on the outside. Not many teams have 2 CB with elite speed. Can 12 find the one open?

Provided he's not still looking for Adams.

Upnorth
05-10-2022, 12:44 PM
Provided he's not still looking for Adams.

As you get older your eye sight starts to go. I'm more concerned with him throwing to #7 on the side lines. Big target.

RashanGary
05-12-2022, 07:36 PM
You have to be excited about the diversity of routes that he won on in college.

You watch his highlight reel and he creates separation on his out-routes. He boxes out and gets after it with slants. He gets open deep. He has a good stop route. You can picture him being able to do a lot.

I have a good feeling about Doubs.

Having Watson to clear out the safeties wont hurt him either. Hes coming into a good situation. Maybe you use Sammy Watkins as a one year stop gap and then go with this guy a year later. Maybe theres a surprise cut and Watkins doesnt make the team too.

run pMc
05-13-2022, 06:02 PM
You should share the meds your on. There is no way that Doubs even comes remotely close to What Carr and Adams numbers.

I'll go further and say I don't see how Watson + Doubs will outproduce Adams this year, who should be a lock to get in the neighborhood of 90-1200-11 if he and Carr are healthy.
Saying Watson will outperform Adams is like saying Kenny Pickett will outperform Aaron Rodgers this year.

I love the optimism, but rookie WRs rarely set the world on fire...and I think Watson has too much rawness yet to be in the rare class of rookies that do.
Year 2 is a different story.

Joemailman
05-13-2022, 06:36 PM
I'll go further and say I don't see how Watson + Doubs will outproduce Adams this year, who should be a lock to get in the neighborhood of 90-1200-11 if he and Carr are healthy.
Saying Watson will outperform Adams is like saying Kenny Pickett will outperform Aaron Rodgers this year.

I love the optimism, but rookie WRs rarely set the world on fire...and I think Watson has too much rawness yet to be in the rare class of rookies that do.
Year 2 is a different story.

I doubt any 2 receivers will equal Adams. WR will be much more of a committee than it was last year when half the passes targeted to WR's went to Adams. 2 of the rookies will get targets, Watkins will get targets, and Cobb and Lazard will get more targets than last year.

Last year Packers WR's had 3086 receiving yards combined, TE's 732 and RB's 712. I expect TE's and RB's to go over 1000, and WR yards to probably be down a bit.

texaspackerbacker
05-13-2022, 10:22 PM
Yeah, all those guys will get a few more targets than they got when Adams was there, and yeah, likely none of them individually will match Adams, maybe not even any two. However, CLEARLY - IMO - Watson will get targeted the most and will get the most receptions. Why? Because nobody else except him will be worthy of the most targets. Whether he plus the second place guy - Watkins, Lazard, or whoever surpass Adams, not so clear, but regardless, the team will be fine, and Watson will be great even as a rookie.

And I say again, Watson will have a better year with Rodgers throwing to him than Adams will have with Carr throwing to him. Mark it down as a prediction.

Upnorth
05-14-2022, 07:36 AM
If our te and rb each get 750 yards, our wr only need 3000 to equal last year. So 5 wr need 600 yards. That's possible as some one needs to be targeted. I bet Watkins gets that in 10 games. Lazard probably eats 800. Cobb is 450. So now we need 2 of amari watson and doubs to hit 600. I would be suprised if watson doesn't unless he has worse hands than mvs. So amari and doubs each get 300 and our production lost to Adams is made up.

I think Jones and dillion will make up the lions share of adams tds.

Fritz
05-14-2022, 08:58 AM
How is Watson NFL ready? I love the kid's athleticism, but he's coming from a college program that did not play against elite defensive talent, and was a run first offense that passed the ball less than 20 times a game. To me, that does not equate to getting a kid ready for the NFL. Watson is going to have a very steep learning curve this year, but just getting behind the defense once a game will be enough to keep defenses honest. He has the ability to go to the house on any snap, which is a threat this offense needed to add.

'Scuse me, King, but I have to say this: you are REALLY football-dumb. You ask, "How is Watson NFL ready?" C'mon, man.

1. He played in a northern state, like Wisconsin.

2. Look at the uniform.

https://cdn.forumcomm.com/dims4/default/8e92ca5/2147483647/strip/false/crop/5226x2940+0+386/resize/1200x675!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffcc-cue-exports-brightspot.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com%2Finforum%2Fbinary%2F101519.s.ff.e ntzpresser.03_binary_4721545.jpg

Duh. Same uniform colors, OBVIOUSLY. The dude is clearly NFL ready based on the above. I try so hard to teach you all a little something from my vast repertoire of football knowledge, but you guys just don't listen.

jklowan
06-21-2022, 01:24 PM
I am gonna say it now Doubs has the most receiving yards of any GB pass cather this year going into week 10 followed by A Rodgers

jklowan
06-21-2022, 01:34 PM
Glad the site is back up, living in Rhode Island makes it difficult to get a lot of Packer news, so happy to see you all again "I THINK" ;)

Upnorth
06-22-2022, 03:01 PM
I am gonna say it now Doubs has the most receiving yards of any GB pass cather this year going into week 10 followed by A Rodgers

I hope you are right in a good way. I'm worried if doubs leads our wr something went horribly wrong.

Lazard is solid. Watkins is solid. I just dont understand how Watson won't be as good as mvs. Mvs had generally bad hands, and was slower.
Outside of injury doubs is 4th in my eyes (which haven't seen him play in real game action)

jklowan
06-22-2022, 03:10 PM
I just think his route running is gonna take some time and Doubs is more refined at this stage. Lazard to me is a big target but I'm not sure he is gonna be a high volume type of guy. I think he will get shut down by opposing defenses and Doubs and Rodgers are gonna get open looks, lots of em early on. Watson to me is gonna take a little time to find his way, I think he will eventually shine just not early in the season.

HarveyWallbangers
06-22-2022, 07:19 PM
I just think his route running is gonna take some time and Doubs is more refined at this stage. Lazard to me is a big target but I'm not sure he is gonna be a high volume type of guy. I think he will get shut down by opposing defenses and Doubs and Rodgers are gonna get open looks, lots of em early on. Watson to me is gonna take a little time to find his way, I think he will eventually shine just not early in the season.

Watching them at Senior Bowl practice (they were on the same team, so it’s easy to compare) Watson looked like a better route runner.

Bretsky
06-22-2022, 07:38 PM
Yeah, all those guys will get a few more targets than they got when Adams was there, and yeah, likely none of them individually will match Adams, maybe not even any two. However, CLEARLY - IMO - Watson will get targeted the most and will get the most receptions. Why? Because nobody else except him will be worthy of the most targets. Whether he plus the second place guy - Watkins, Lazard, or whoever surpass Adams, not so clear, but regardless, the team will be fine, and Watson will be great even as a rookie.

And I say again, Watson will have a better year with Rodgers throwing to him than Adams will have with Carr throwing to him. Mark it down as a prediction.


HOLY SHIT you've been saving up your homerism the past few weeks for this post :))))))

What do you wanna bet on this ? Catches per game, yards per game ? The only way IMO Watson outperforms Adams is if Adams gets injured.

bobblehead
06-22-2022, 09:04 PM
HOLY SHIT you've been saving up your homerism the past few weeks for this post :))))))

What do you wanna bet on this ? Catches per game, yards per game ? The only way IMO Watson outperforms Adams is if Adams gets injured.

I never knew Tex smoked weed. I'm not judging, just surprised.

texaspackerbacker
06-22-2022, 09:43 PM
Nothing against Adams, but Carr absolutely ain't Rodgers. Catches, yards, TDs, I expect Watson to have better numbers maybe even the first year, for sure in 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years.

How did we end up with Watson stuff in the Doubs thread and Amari stuff in the Doubs thread? hahahahaha

Upnorth
06-23-2022, 12:06 AM
Nothing against Adams, but Carr absolutely ain't Rodgers. Catches, yards, TDs, I expect Watson to have better numbers maybe even the first year, for sure in 2 or 3 or 4 or 5 years.

How did we end up with Watson stuff in the Doubs thread and Amari stuff in the Doubs thread? hahahahaha

How have we not brought up the d line yet? Man we are out of practice. It's amazing how much focus you get after a couple weeks off the rat crack