The Official Pack-69ers Friendly GameDay Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Flip burgers at 9, so will only be able to catch about a quarter. Laboring 10 hours shifts now. My enormous rooster loves the 3 days weekend - more time to download aphrodisiac vids. My overused, fucked, hip hates the 10 hours shifts. I’d gladly give up aphrodisiac vids for a boring cubicle gig.

For you folks who ain’t in cold, dark and full Wisconsin, game will be shown live on GamePass. Subscription required. First preseason game is always the most fascinating one out of the 3 or 4 “friendlies.” We all wanna see how the rooks look in the Green and Musta Yella. I will be checking out Doubs and Q-Walk.

Since preseason games don’t count, I am assuming, neither do GameDay thread starters. Should Pack lose this game, I’d still be eligible to start a regular season GameDay thread. Likewise, if the Mailman starts the WK 3 friendly thread and Pack win, he doesn’t necessarily have to start the WK 1 Pack-Queens GameDay thread.

Packers 0
69ers 72

S’up, Harlan. Saw you larking yesterday.

[Vincenzo]

Thinking of putting a $100 on the Pack, even if it is completely meaningless.

[texaspackerbacker]

Score-wise, as if that makes a difference in the preseason, it's gonna depend on whether the Niners play their starters more than we do.

[Joemailman]

Tonight is just the beginning.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ--SvoVUAAf5JG?format=jpg&name=small

[Anti-Polar Bear]

KO Return unit starts with a flag. So much for the highly paid Italian coach.

[Tony Oday]

Shocker Love misses by 10 yards.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Love still struggling vs blitz. 3 n out.

[red]

Shocker Love misses by 10 yards.

so much for all the team driven dick sucking the pregame guys did about how he he so much more confident and better this year

looked just as flustered and inaccurate as ever on the first throw

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Shocker Love misses by 10 yards.

There aint a Black QB ODay aint like.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Rookie RB Goodson looking good.

[red]

great route by doubs

horrible throw by love

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Doubs!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

great route by doubs

horrible throw by love

Reverse jinx.

[red]

so ok

so that was the second time doubs burned his guy already. maybe the guy is the real deal

better throw by love

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Doubs: poor mans Robert Brooks.

[Joemailman]

Doubs: poor mans Robert Brooks.

Rich man's James Jones.

[Teamcheez1]

great route by doubs

horrible throw by love

I’m sorry, it wasn’t that bad of a throw.

[red]

I’m sorry, it wasn’t that bad of a throw.

the first one , were he overthrew him by 10 yards?

[MadScientist]

Well that blitz/coverage didn't work worth shit

[Teamcheez1]

The Doubs throw was a couple of yards. Doubs was pushed off his route and potentially held.

[RashanGary]

Love’s body language and command look confident and in control. I’m hoping to see a few more big time throws.

[Teamcheez1]

There’s a reason Leavitt is mostly special teams.

[RashanGary]

The Doubs throw was a couple of yards. Doubs was pushed off his route and potentially held.

Yeah, it wasn’t too bad considering Doubs didn’t quite release and go the way he wanted. Doubs wanted another chance for that route and Love did too. They got it.

[red]

lol, one of our street clothes guys on the sideline just destroyed amari rodgers at the end of that return

[red]

Love’s body language and command look confident and in control. I’m hoping to see a few more big time throws.

almost sounds like you were listening to the pregame and got brainwashed

pretty much all they could say was that love was more confident this offseason

[Teamcheez1]

Bad drop

[red]

where did goodson play? he looks pretty good

[Anti-Polar Bear]

where did goodson play? he looks pretty good

Place where theres nothing but corn, Iowa.

[red]

did he lose that in the sun? it was right in the transition from shade to light.

hit him right in the chest

[RashanGary]

Love double clutches it and then let’s it go in traffic. Bad play by love there.

[RashanGary]

did he lose that in the sun? it was right in the transition from shade to light.

hit him right in the chest

I didn’t notice that. If it was a really good throw, I take back my last comment.

[MadScientist]

Epically shitty coverage on that one

[Teamcheez1]

Love double clutches it and then let’s it go in traffic. Bad play by love there.

It hit Davis right in the hands????

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Gotdamn, #6 might be getting himself cut.

[RashanGary]

It hit Davis right in the hands????

Yeah, I didn’t see that clearly. It wasn’t too bad

[red]

I didn’t notice that. If it was a really good throw, I take back my last comment.

are you talking about the int that the 49ers almost returned, or is your feed delayed some

cause it either hit the guy right in the hands, or sent through his hands and bounced off his chest and into the air

[pittstang5]

Um...I know it's Preseason and the starters aren't playing....but...um, you can't let guys be that open.....TWICE!!!!

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Gotdamn, #6 might be getting himself cut.

Actually, the corner fell. Not 6 fault.

[Teamcheez1]

It was zero coverage. We covered nobody.

[red]

wounded duck

doubs is our whole offense right now, the only guy love is looking for

maybe he's the next davonte adams

[MadScientist]

Should have been PI, but at least there was a penalty

[RashanGary]

I’m not impressed by Love so far but he’s still leaving room for hope.

[pittstang5]

Bad break on that INT.

[Teamcheez1]

Our receivers have been mediocre this evening.

[RashanGary]

I liked the accuracy of the deep touchdown and I liked his throw running full speed to his left that Doubs dropped. I like the QB keepers too. Love is showing some talent. I want to see more though. I want some pin point accurate passes down field and consistency on the short and middle.

[pittstang5]

Nice catch by Winfree

[MadScientist]

That was a bad decision by Love

[pittstang5]

Horrible throw by Love

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Terrible pick, that 3rd INT.

[Teamcheez1]

That was a bad throw

[Teamcheez1]

About the only thing the Packers will get out of this game is reviewing individual tape on players. There is no cohesiveness by the offense or defense.

[RashanGary]

The OL hasn’t been a dumpster fire. Hanson looked overmatched on that holding penalty and then he came back with a hands to the face. Zach Tom has every opportunity to take the spot but he’s young and undersized so he might struggle too.

[RashanGary]

Damn, I was hoping to feel better about Love. He sure doesn’t dominate. And he liked to throw picks. I think the game is a little too fast for him.

[MadScientist]

About the only thing the Packers will get out of this game is reviewing individual tape on players. There is no cohesiveness by the offense or defense.

That's to be expected. It's mostly second and third stringers who haven't played with each other a lot. Pre season is all about trying to get ready on individual players. Unfortunately there aren't many stand outs.

[MadScientist]

Davis doing his best to get noticed in a good way. Unlike most of the Packers receivers.

[Teamcheez1]

Back-ups playing like the 2nd and 3rd stringers many of these guys are.

[MadScientist]

Back-ups playing like the 2nd and 3rd stringers many of these guys are.

It would be nice if some played like first stringers.

[red]

Damn, I was hoping to feel better about Love. He sure doesn’t dominate. And he liked to throw picks. I think the game is a little too fast for him.

he does look a bit more poised, but that might have more to do with how bad he looked the last couple of years more then anything

if he was our starting QB this year i would say we are very fucked, its still a bit early to tell if he's even good enough to be a backup, but he sure as hell still doesn't look like a future starter to me

[Bretsky]

FOR THE GAMBLING DEGENERATES

A couple bets I embraced for wins (but have no idea if I was right)

Dubbs for over 26 yards receiving
Love Machine over 126 passing yards
Amari Rodgers over under 1.5 catches per game


I WANTED OVER ON ALL 3.

[Bretsky]

SOUNDS LIKE we need to SIT the DUBBMEISTER in the preaseason so he doesn't get hurt

Wonder when Chrissy is going to return ? lol

[RashanGary]

he does look a bit more poised, but that might have more to do with how bad he looked the last couple of years more then anything

if he was our starting QB this year i would say we are very fucked, its still a bit early to tell if he's even good enough to be a backup, but he sure as hell still doesn't look like a future starter to me

Im leaning this way too. He’s had decent time to throw. Vanilla defense. And he still can’t look dominant, even in spurts. There are a few things to like. I do not like his decision making. It wasn’t just the pick. He double clutched that one that bounced off the guys hands. Totally out of rhythm. Maybe the receiver did something he wasn’t expecting. But he stared it down, double clutched it and fired it into traffic. Another bad one was when he had pressure going a little to his right, he threw up a wounded duck as he got hit. He’s done that before too. He doesn’t have a good feel for if he can get it off. Looks like a backup right now. I still wanna see two more games, but after three years I’m down on him more now than ever before.

[RashanGary]

SOUNDS LIKE we need to SIT the DUBBMEISTER in the preaseason so he doesn't get hurt

Wonder when Chrissy is going to return ? lol

Lol!!!! The Fargo Fraud!

[RashanGary]

Maybe Lafleur and Shannahan talked and the defense wasn’t vanilla. I highly doubt it though. Love should be looking better than this.

[RashanGary]

Love showed flashes of improvement. A great throw to Doubs down field. Another nice one running full speed to his left. But he’s a tick slow with his decision making and just doesn’t seem to have a feel for the game. This is the most down I’ve ever been on Love and it’s becoming obvious why they stroked Aaron so hard to come back and gave him 50 million a year. Love does not look like it.

[RashanGary]

The worst thing about love (doesn’t seem to process the game quickly enough) isn’t going to be fixed by fundamentals and coaching. If he looks like this all preseason, I give up.

[King Friday]

Well, Love had a chance to show himself capable…and he mostly failed. Accuracy continues to be spotty. His timing always seems just a half tick off. At this point in his career, he should be starting to look better…but he’s not. I gave him a chance to prove himself, but he remains the same shaky kid he was in college. Hopefully we can get a ham sandwich for him.

Hated the pick initially. Really hate it now. Complete waste by Gute for a team that was poised to contend for titles, and wasted a bunch of draft capital on a dud at a position that wasn’t even a need.

[Teamcheez1]

I’ll reserve judgement on Love until the end of the preseason. He has shown promise, but I think it’s been difficult playing with the back-ups all over the field. I don’t think it’s been as bad as many of you are making it out to be.

[pittstang5]

I've seen more to like in two throws from this Etling guy than three years of Love.

[RashanGary]

So Gute tried to move on from Rodgers, then Rodgers got a front row seat to the dumpster fire that was Gutes decision. Then Rodgers threatened to leave and Gute got on his knees and begged. He gave Rodgers everything including a contract that guaranteed he was the guy as long as he wanted to be.

Love is a failure.

[call_me_ishmael]

SF is a good team playing not vanilla stuff IMO. I will refrain from judgement right now but I would say the signs aren't encouraging.

[pittstang5]

Just a bit outside....

[RashanGary]

SF is a good team playing not vanilla stuff IMO. I will refrain from judgement right now but I would say the signs aren't encouraging.

I want to do that too. But I’m not going to. Put me in the camp that thinks Love is an abject failure right now. I’ll eat the crow later if I’m wrong. Im not too worried about that though.

[MadScientist]

We can judge this kicker as not being worth keeping

[RashanGary]

They panned to Rodgers on the sideline. He looked absolutely at peace. He has a new contract that guarantees he’s the guy as long as he chooses. No more grudge. The Packers gave up on Love when they did that deal. Now we all see why.

[call_me_ishmael]

I want to do that too. But I’m not going to. Put me in the camp that thinks Love is an abject failure right now. I’ll eat the crow later if I’m wrong. Im not too worried about that though.

Don't get me wrong I absolutely think he is not going to be a good player but I don't think this one instance says a lot. I am going merely on the probability from draft position and general reporting/comments from media/bloggers about him.

[RashanGary]

Toure reminds me of Driver with the build and speed and movement.

[call_me_ishmael]

Why are they playing a new QB? They aren't going to carry 3 QBs and there are two jobs for QB this preseason.

1) Don't get QB1 hurt
2) Get a definitive answer if QB2 is worth anything

Playing QB3 doesn't help with either of the above, thus I think it's stupid.

[pittstang5]

Starting to see some good things from Amari Rodgers

[MadScientist]

Nice RAC from Amari. But I don't like the drop at the end, even if the TD counts first.

[RashanGary]

I thought TJ Slaton played well. He was kind of in their backfield and wrecking their plays with the first team. That’s a really good sign. We already have Clark, Reed, Lowry and Wyatt. A legit 5th guy will allow that DL to be fresh and ferocious at all times. Especially a big guy who can play nose. Clark looks leaner. Give him a break from NT once and a while and let him get after it.

[RashanGary]

Why are they playing a new QB? They aren't going to carry 3 QBs and there are two jobs for QB this preseason.

1) Don't get QB1 hurt
2) Get a definitive answer if QB2 is worth anything

Playing QB3 doesn't help with either of the above, thus I think it's stupid.

Agree.

[RashanGary]

Jake Hanson had two penalties and got destroyed one time. Looks like we have one weak link on the OL unless Tom really comes on.

[RashanGary]

Hyman looks really natural fielding punts, at least compared to Am Rodgers. I would hate to see Rodgers return punts. He looks confused by the ball flight every time. This year, last year, all the time. He’s not it.

[Joemailman]

Jake Hanson had two penalties and got destroyed one time. Looks like we have one weak link on the OL unless Tom really comes on.

If they have to play without Bakh and Jenkins, I think they have to go with Newman and Tom on the right side.

[pittstang5]

Phantom PI call

[The Shadow]

Can we please stop wasting time & get what we can for Jordan Love?

[The Shadow]

I've seen more to like in two throws from this Etling guy than three years of Love.

THIS!!

[MadScientist]

Can we please stop wasting time & get what we can for Jordan Love?

Because at this point they can't get anything for him. He has more value as a backup.

[RashanGary]

Because at this point they can't get anything for him. He has more value as a backup.

Does he though? Is he a good backup? We could do better.

[Bretsky]

Can we please stop wasting time & get what we can for Jordan Love?

HEY GUTEBAG; TRY TO GET US THE 4th ROUNDER BACK YOU GAVE AWAY to MOVE UP

[Bretsky]

Because at this point they can't get anything for him. He has more value as a backup.



Does he have value as a backup ? Or just to use because our cup is that bare ?

[texaspackerbacker]

Ya'all were lucky assuming you got to see the Packers broadcasters. I watched on NFL Network and had to suffer through the damned Niner people.

The score, irrelevant as it was, was mostly the result of us playing lower level people than they did, that and late, our scrubs got outplayed by their scrubs.

I see I wasn't the only one who thought Etling looked better than Love. Yeah, he played against lower level D, but still. Love had a few decent plays, but he was off target as much as on target. And three picks, at least two of which were his fault? That is very unRodgerslike judgment. He had a couple others too that were too risky to throw. Etling seemed to show better sense and even better accuracy.

I thought the WRs looked pretty good, Winfree not so much, but Doubs, Toure, Davis, and even Amari. Amari looked great returning kickoffs - a lot quicker and less tentative. Did he even have a chance to return a punt? I think he still is the best returner they've used or talked about using. Tyler Davis didn't look good, and DeGuara pretty much stunk. If Dafney got in the game, I didn't notice him, same for Canella or whatever his name is.

There has been talk about passing less this year and running the ball more. That ain't gonna happen. As good as Goodson looked and Baylor too and Williams once also, even with Love and Etling, the passing was necessary to move the ball. The O Line just couldn't cut it.

On D, the higher level back ups weren't horrible. Most of the guys who give up big plays won't be on the team anyway. When the scrubs were in, Enigbare looked a little less bad than a lot of others. It seemed like they were trying to play the kind of D they would play with the big three Corners, but it didn't work with scrubs back there. And I'd never say good if any Packer gets hurt, but Leavitt was awful at Safety. I don't care if he's good on Special Teams, they ought to be able to find somebody as good for that who ain't such a liability otherwise.

[Fritz]

HEY GUTEBAG; TRY TO GET US THE 4th ROUNDER BACK YOU GAVE AWAY to MOVE UP

That’s a fantasy. Right now, the Packers would have to SEND a pick to someone in order to unload Jordan Love. It sounds like he is the same as always - very inconsistent. Great for a minute, then wildly missing receivers and making dumb decisions. You can win with a good defense and a game-manager type of QB, but you can’t win with what Love seems to be. I mean, we’ll see in the next two games, but it ain’t looking good.

[Bretsky]

Ya'all were lucky assuming you got to see the Packers broadcasters. I watched on NFL Network and had to suffer through the damned Niner people.

The score, irrelevant as it was, was mostly the result of us playing lower level people than they did, that and late, our scrubs got outplayed by their scrubs.

I see I wasn't the only one who thought Etling looked better than Love. Yeah, he played against lower level D, but still. Love had a few decent plays, but he was off target as much as on target. And three picks, at least two of which were his fault? That is very unRodgerslike judgment. He had a couple others too that were too risky to throw. Etling seemed to show better sense and even better accuracy.

I thought the WRs looked pretty good, Winfree not so much, but Doubs, Toure, Davis, and even Amari. Amari looked great returning kickoffs - a lot quicker and less tentative. Did he even have a chance to return a punt? I think he still is the best returner they've used or talked about using. Tyler Davis didn't look good, and DeGuara pretty much stunk. If Dafney got in the game, I didn't notice him, same for Canella or whatever his name is.

There has been talk about passing less this year and running the ball more. That ain't gonna happen. As good as Goodson looked and Baylor too and Williams once also, even with Love and Etling, the passing was necessary to move the ball. The O Line just couldn't cut it.

On D, the higher level back ups weren't horrible. Most of the guys who give up big plays won't be on the team anyway. When the scrubs were in, Enigbare looked a little less bad than a lot of others. It seemed like they were trying to play the kind of D they would play with the big three Corners, but it didn't work with scrubs back there. And I'd never say good if any Packer gets hurt, but Leavitt was awful at Safety. I don't care if he's good on Special Teams, they ought to be able to find somebody as good for that who ain't such a liability otherwise.



TEX TEX TEX;;;;;;;;listen to your boy AROD and the clips.

Dude really likes Dubbs...............and Dude really likes Winfree and is running a soft campaign through the press to keep him. Reminds me a bit of White Jesus a while back. We don't have enough spots for the WR"s. They seem like a bunch off guys who might be good and who knows which ones take the next step.

[Joemailman]

Love only made one bad decision. On the last INT he tried to make a play even though the receivers had run the wrong route. But the 2 other INT's were drops that turned into INT's. If the receivers catch those balls, his stats are pretty outstanding. By rights he should have come out of the half with over 200 yards passing with at least 2 TD's and 1 INT. But most people didn't like the Love draft pick, so the bashing will continue.

[bobblehead]

[QUOTE=RashanGary;1118193]The worst thing about love (doesn

[bobblehead]

I see I had back to back posts eaten by the machine. Oh well, its preseason so who really cares.

[bobblehead]

So Gute tried to move on from Rodgers, then Rodgers got a front row seat to the dumpster fire that was Gutes decision. Then Rodgers threatened to leave and Gute got on his knees and begged. He gave Rodgers everything including a contract that guaranteed he was the guy as long as he wanted to be.

Love is a failure.

Alternatively:

Rodgers was looking old and tired and injured for a few seasons and wasn't the HoF QB we had been seeing prior. Gutes prepared for the possibility that Rodgers might need to be replaced and drafted a guy just in case.

Rodgers, sensing he had been mailing it in for a couple seasons got all butt hurt and threw a tantrum rivaling my teenage niece. Gutes held his ground and wouldn't trade him calling his bluff. Rodgers eventually caved, saving face by getting a year lopped off his deal that would have run into his 40's. Then, just like Favre when he had something to prove after we shipped him out of town, Rodgers put up one of his finest seasons ever. Gutes is a genius who motivated Rodgers and got the best out of him.

Its easy to try and sell a narrative, but the truth is usually more nuanced.

[bobblehead]

Why are they playing a new QB? They aren't going to carry 3 QBs and there are two jobs for QB this preseason.

1) Don't get QB1 hurt
2) Get a definitive answer if QB2 is worth anything

Playing QB3 doesn't help with either of the above, thus I think it's stupid.

this is the gyst of one of the posts that was eaten. Love needs reps. My biggest knock on Rodgers at this same point was that he looked indecisive. That lasted about 4-8 games of him being the starter to be honest.

[bobblehead]

Does he though? Is he a good backup? We could do better.

yea, there are like tons of starting quality QBs we could get as our backup, wtf gutes!!!

[bobblehead]

TEX TEX TEX;;;;;;;;listen to your boy AROD and the clips.

Dude really likes Dubbs...............and Dude really likes Winfree and is running a soft campaign through the press to keep him. Reminds me a bit of White Jesus a while back. We don't have enough spots for the WR"s. They seem like a bunch off guys who might be good and who knows which ones take the next step.

If I'm gutes I ask Rodgers to text me who he thinks the 6 we should keep should be. I'd take it under advisement. And it would give Rodgers motivation to not mention the 12 he thinks we should have kept to the press.

[bobblehead]

Love only made one bad decision. On the last INT he tried to make a play even though the receivers had run the wrong route. But the 2 other INT's were drops that turned into INT's. If the receivers catch those balls, his stats are pretty outstanding. By rights he should have come out of the half with over 200 yards passing with at least 2 TD's and 1 INT. But most people didn't like the Love draft pick, so the bashing will continue.

Stop with your rationality and saneness!!! We won't have it here!

[RashanGary]

Love only made one bad decision. On the last INT he tried to make a play even though the receivers had run the wrong route. But the 2 other INT's were drops that turned into INT's. If the receivers catch those balls, his stats are pretty outstanding. By rights he should have come out of the half with over 200 yards passing with at least 2 TD's and 1 INT. But most people didn't like the Love draft pick, so the bashing will continue.

I count three. On the pick to the right side, he stared down the receiver for like 3 seconds, double clutched it and then sent a ball in high to a guy with two defenders bearing down on him. Those are dropped all of the time. The second bad play is the one where he had no sense of timing of the defender about to hit him. He threw up a wounded duck because he timed it poorly and got hit. The third is the Amari pick.

The game is too fast for him. Love stinks. And I was all for the pick and had hope. But that time has passed. Love stinks. No wonder Gute gave 12 a contract into his 40s and long after Loves 4th and 5th years. They gave up. It is time we do too.

[RashanGary]

If Love was showing NFL mettle, Rodgers would have gotten the Favre treatment. The writing is on the wall.

[RashanGary]

On the bright side, TJ Slaton was active as hell. That makes a 5 deep rotation on the DL. Rodgers is still here. We’ve got a shot this year. And probably next year.

[Joemailman]

If Love was showing NFL mettle, Rodgers would have gotten the Favre treatment. The writing is on the wall.

You may be right, but you might be a little spoiled by watching Rodgers all these years. No one is saying he's a future HOFer, but he might be a competent NFL starting QB.

[Joemailman]

On the bright side, TJ Slaton was active as hell. That makes a 5 deep rotation on the DL. Rodgers is still here. We’ve got a shot this year. And probably next year.Heflin too. He's played well on Family Night and last night. Would like to see if he can do anything in practice against the 1's.

[Joemailman]

Why are they playing a new QB? They aren't going to carry 3 QBs and there are two jobs for QB this preseason.

1) Don't get QB1 hurt
2) Get a definitive answer if QB2 is worth anything

Playing QB3 doesn't help with either of the above, thus I think it's stupid.

Decent chance either Rodgers or Love won't be here next year. May want to see if Etling can be a #2.

[RashanGary]

Heflin too. He's played well on Family Night and last night. Would like to see if he can do anything in practice against the 1's.

Yeah, I thought heflin looked decent too. But he seems like a try hard guy with some limitations. Slaton has some high upside juice to him.

[Joemailman]

Yeah, I thought heflin looked decent too. But he seems like a try hard guy with some limitations. Slaton has some high upside juice to him.

Oh I agree. I was just thinking in terms of the roster. There's been some debate as to whether Packers keep 5 or 6 DL. Heflin might be playing his way onto the roster as #6.

[RashanGary]

Preston looks leaner in his face and he looks leaner in the TC pics. Him and Gary could both be in for big years. Along with a 5 deep DL rotation. I like how the front is shaping up. Assuming injuries don’t hit.

[Joemailman]

My biggest concern going into last night was the O-line with Bakh and Jenkins. They've mostly been getting manhandled by Packers DL in practice. The fact that the O-line did okay suggests that the D-line might be as good as the hype coming out of practice.

[RashanGary]

My biggest concern going into last night was the O-line with Bakh and Jenkins. They've mostly been getting manhandled by Packers DL in practice. The fact that the O-line did okay suggests that the D-line might be as good as the hype coming out of practice.

True. Hanson got pushed around a little and had the penalties. But he’s probably not much worse than rookie Newman last year. It could be serviceable until the Calvary arrives.

[texaspackerbacker]

TEX TEX TEX;;;;;;;;listen to your boy AROD and the clips.

Dude really likes Dubbs...............and Dude really likes Winfree and is running a soft campaign through the press to keep him. Reminds me a bit of White Jesus a while back. We don't have enough spots for the WR"s. They seem like a bunch off guys who might be good and who knows which ones take the next step.

It will be interesting to see what Winfree does and Rodgers has to say about him going forward. It seemed clear that he was not as good at getting open as the other four in last nights game. At first glance, it seemed like Love was treating Doubs like Rodgers treated Davante, but the other side of the coin was that Winfree wasn't able to get open.

[texaspackerbacker]

Love only made one bad decision. On the last INT he tried to make a play even though the receivers had run the wrong route. But the 2 other INT's were drops that turned into INT's. If the receivers catch those balls, his stats are pretty outstanding. By rights he should have come out of the half with over 200 yards passing with at least 2 TD's and 1 INT. But most people didn't like the Love draft pick, so the bashing will continue.

The only pick I wouldn't blame Love for was the throw to Davis which probably should have been caught, although you could also say Love threw it too hard for the distance between them. The throw to Amari was off target behind him. Several other throws Love made were off target either for incompletions or complete anyway.

I like the guy's mobility, and I was ready to start thinking positive about him based on what I read about practice. But what I saw in the game just doesn't justify it.

[Fritz]

I count three. On the pick to the right side, he stared down the receiver for like 3 seconds, double clutched it and then sent a ball in high to a guy with two defenders bearing down on him. Those are dropped all of the time. The second bad play is the one where he had no sense of timing of the defender about to hit him. He threw up a wounded duck because he timed it poorly and got hit. The third is the Amari pick.

The game is too fast for him. Love stinks. And I was all for the pick and had hope. But that time has passed. Love stinks. No wonder Gute gave 12 a contract into his 40s and long after Loves 4th and 5th years. They gave up. It is time we do too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0LAs7X5ybE

[RashanGary]

We should be saying, I would do anything for Love. But instead we’re saying love stinks. The story has been written.

I give Gute credit for taking a shot but he missed.

Now it’s just ride 12 till he retires and then stink and eventually nab us a Desean Watson or Patrick Mahommes in the early middle of round 1.

[run pMc]

The pick that bounced off Davis' hands was not Love's fault. Should've been caught. The 2nd pick was on Doubs... he got the ball taken away from him. The Amari pick was a bad throw, MLF said two receivers ran the same/wrong route and so he locked onto Amari. It was a bad decision and he should've just thrown the ball away if nobody was open. The corner had inside leverage on Amari's route so IDK why you'd try to make that throw. So of the 3 Ints, 1 was Love's fault. He had more accuracy issues than I'd like to see, especially with all the Tom Clements talk from Rodgers.

The bashing of Jordan Love is overblown. It's not like he's the first pick they've traded up for that (probably) won't be elite. Jason Spriggs? Oren Burks? There are plenty of R1 picks (Harrell, Datone, Ahmad Carroll etc.) that haven't panned out. He's probably going to be added to the list of those that won't pan out, they'll let his contract expire without picking up the 5th year option and look for a new QB. Meanwhile, he's an ok backup...bearing in mind that there aren't enough good starters in the league, nevermind backups.

Dallin Leavitt better be an absolute demon on ST, because you do NOT want him playing defense. I think it was Andy Herman who tweeted that he has some of the worst coverage he's seen, and that was shown to be true against the Niners.

[RashanGary]

Love reminds me a lot of Spriggs. High pick. All potential. Never showed one sign of being legit. Fans gave endless excuses for 4 years and then the experiment was over.

But one thing I’ll agree with is that GMs miss on some picks, even high ones. It’s one miss. It’s not that big of a deal. But it’s over. It didn’t work out.

Rodgers did get extra chippy and competitive though. So that was nice. When they panned to Rodgers last night, I never saw a guy more comfortable in his skin. He’s been absolutely catered to. Gute knew Love wasn’t it when Rodgers made his move and gave Rodgers the world. This is Rodgers team until he decides to hang up his cleats. 12 runs the show.

[texaspackerbacker]

I read that Lowery is due to make $7.9 million, $1.8 million I think dead money if he is cut. With Slaton looking so good as well as Clark, Wyatt, and Reed, and now Heflin - I thought he looked ok too and Ford too is a possibility. I'd like to see them cut Lowery.

[MadScientist]

Alternatively:

Rodgers was looking old and tired and injured for a few seasons and wasn't the HoF QB we had been seeing prior. Gutes prepared for the possibility that Rodgers might need to be replaced and drafted a guy just in case.

Rodgers, sensing he had been mailing it in for a couple seasons got all butt hurt and threw a tantrum rivaling my teenage niece. Gutes held his ground and wouldn't trade him calling his bluff. Rodgers eventually caved, saving face by getting a year lopped off his deal that would have run into his 40's. Then, just like Favre when he had something to prove after we shipped him out of town, Rodgers put up one of his finest seasons ever. Gutes is a genius who motivated Rodgers and got the best out of him.

Its easy to try and sell a narrative, but the truth is usually more nuanced.

Good to see someone else remembers that Rodgers in the seasons before Love was drafted was not playing close to MVP level. U seem to remember starting a thread about it. He admitted it himself after the draft and rededicated himself to getting in shape and improving his mechanics. So by drafting Love we got Rodgers back to MVP level. The downside is that Love isn't looking even like Hasslebeck did at this point in his career.

[George Cumby]

Alternatively:

Rodgers was looking old and tired and injured for a few seasons and wasn't the HoF QB we had been seeing prior. Gutes prepared for the possibility that Rodgers might need to be replaced and drafted a guy just in case.

Rodgers, sensing he had been mailing it in for a couple seasons got all butt hurt and threw a tantrum rivaling my teenage niece. Gutes held his ground and wouldn't trade him calling his bluff. Rodgers eventually caved, saving face by getting a year lopped off his deal that would have run into his 40's. Then, just like Favre when he had something to prove after we shipped him out of town, Rodgers put up one of his finest seasons ever. Gutes is a genius who motivated Rodgers and got the best out of him.

Its easy to try and sell a narrative, but the truth is usually more nuanced.

THIS.

Is why I was fine with the Love pick.

[Upnorth]

I wonder how love plays next week. One thing I liked was after his first 2 picks due to the receivers he kept pushing and trying. He can shake off Barclays. Nif he grows that bodes well for him.
He aint rodgers. But He might be Favre ish

[Upnorth]

Also how about that dline depth. Might be better than expected.

On the other hand how about that secondary depth, might be worse than expected

[call_me_ishmael]

Good to see someone else remembers that Rodgers in the seasons before Love was drafted was not playing close to MVP level. U seem to remember starting a thread about it. He admitted it himself after the draft and rededicated himself to getting in shape and improving his mechanics. So by drafting Love we got Rodgers back to MVP level. The downside is that Love isn't looking even like Hasslebeck did at this point in his career.

Did they not go to NFCC that year? I feel like people undersell 2019. It wasn't amazeballs but I think he was doing pretty good all things considered.

I was probably Rodgers biggest critic in the mid-2010s. He looked like shit in 2017 and 2018 IIRC. But I think 2019 was pretty dang good and people thought he was back in general.

[call_me_ishmael]

I read that Lowery is due to make $7.9 million, $1.8 million I think dead money if he is cut. With Slaton looking so good as well as Clark, Wyatt, and Reed, and now Heflin - I thought he looked ok too and Ford too is a possibility. I'd like to see them cut Lowery.

I wonder if they could cut and resign. That seems like _a lot_ of money for Dean Lowry.

[call_me_ishmael]

[QUOTE=RashanGary;1118261]Love reminds me a lot of Spriggs. High pick. All potential. Never showed one sign of being legit. Fans gave endless excuses for 4 years and then the experiment was over.

But one thing I

[call_me_ishmael]

[QUOTE=RashanGary;1118261]Love reminds me a lot of Spriggs. High pick. All potential. Never showed one sign of being legit. Fans gave endless excuses for 4 years and then the experiment was over.

But one thing I

[call_me_ishmael]

love stuff.

Two misses. And its extra bad because they were coming off a NFCC appearance and a stud position player could have made the difference in 2020 or 2021 in the big game.

[call_me_ishmael]

If Love was showing NFL mettle, Rodgers would have gotten the Favre treatment. The writing is on the wall.

I think this is very much true. IIRC Favre was runner up to MVP in 2007 too, and both stunk it up in the NFCC at home.

[call_me_ishmael]

love stuff.

Two misses. And its extra bad because they were coming off a NFCC appearance and a stud position player could have made the difference in 2020 or 2021 in the big game.

[Bretsky]

Two misses. And its extra bad because they were coming off a NFCC appearance and a stud position player could have made the difference in 2020 or 2021 in the big game.




shhhhhhhhh; nobody was available.....aka Tee Higgins and Michael Pittman

[texaspackerbacker]

I just saw a report that Tonyan, Watson, and Jenkins have been activated from the PUP list. Excellent News.

[Teamcheez1]

I just saw a report that Tonyan, Watson, and Jenkins have been activated from the PUP list. Excellent News.

My guess is the Packers do not believe they need to miss the first 4-6 weeks of the season, and want them available for an increasing practice load. I predict neither of the three will be active for week one.

[Joemailman]

My guess is the Packers do not believe they need to miss the first 4-6 weeks of the season, and want them available for an increasing practice load. I predict neither of the three will be active for week one.

I disagree. Week 1 is still 4 weeks away. Elgton said he's had no discomfort for a couple weeks now, but they held him out because they wanted to be closer to the 9 month mark. They probably won't play in preseason games, but I'll bet the aim will be to have them ready for Week 1.

[RashanGary]

I’ve seen clips and pics of Bakh. His legs look smaller. All that time off his legs has got to set him way back.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I didn’t see the game live, so there was some box score scouting. Love looked better than the box score. When I watched Doubs tape, there were drops. That is a concern I had. You never know if it was just the 3-4 games you watched. He seems like he should be able to catch well, so we’ll see. Tom looked good. It looks like Elgton might be able to go week 1. If not, I see the OL being Yosh-Runyan-Myers-Newman-Tom. I’m not surprised by Tom. He is a guy I loved before the draft. Probably my favorite pick in the draft—outside of the homer Watson pick.

[Joemailman]

I’ve seen clips and pics of Bakh. His legs look smaller. All that time off his legs has got to set him way back.

With all that time off, maybe it just looks that way because his stomach is bigger.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Guys that stood out to me: Zach Tom, TJ Slaton, Jack Heflin, Kingsley Enegbare, Keisean Nixon, Kiondre Thomas, Tariq Carpenter. Amari Rodgers looks shiftier and quicker than last year.

[Joemailman]

Guys that stood out to me: Zach Tom, TJ Slaton, Jack Heflin, Kingsley Enegbare, Keisean Nixon, Kiondre Thomas, Tariq Carpenter. Amari Rodgers looks shiftier and quicker than last year.

Sounds like Enagbare has continued to play well in practice this week. He'll play a lot if he keeps it up.